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		<title>By: Lefebvre Believer</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2004/11/13/sexson-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-7353</link>
		<dc:creator>Lefebvre Believer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2004 01:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we are talking about a 3 year deal,  Delgado is hands down the better option for the M&#039;s.   I have a hunch right now that Delgado is going to get a lot of offers which will get into the overpriced range.  I would not be surprised if he signs a 4 year 48 mil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we are talking about a 3 year deal,  Delgado is hands down the better option for the M&#8217;s.   I have a hunch right now that Delgado is going to get a lot of offers which will get into the overpriced range.  I would not be surprised if he signs a 4 year 48 mil.</p>
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		<title>By: Scraps</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scraps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2004 03:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough.  I still don&#039;t understand the eagerness to wish work on a player after his baseball career is over, or why it was relevant to Sexson&#039;s desire to do the best for himself right now.  It seems strange to me that some of us put so much time and energy into baseball fans, then begrudge players the rewards that our time and energy brings them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough.  I still don&#8217;t understand the eagerness to wish work on a player after his baseball career is over, or why it was relevant to Sexson&#8217;s desire to do the best for himself right now.  It seems strange to me that some of us put so much time and energy into baseball fans, then begrudge players the rewards that our time and energy brings them.</p>
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		<title>By: The Ancient Mariner</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2004/11/13/sexson-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-7251</link>
		<dc:creator>The Ancient Mariner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2004 00:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Y&#039;know, &quot;Gee, what a shame it would be if he actually had to work for a few years after his baseball days are done&quot; doesn&#039;t necessarily equate to &quot;it isn&#039;t &lt;em&gt;work&lt;/em&gt; to be a professional athlete.&quot;  To be sure, that might be the intent, but it&#039;s just as likely that it isn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y&#8217;know, &#8220;Gee, what a shame it would be if he actually had to work for a few years after his baseball days are done&#8221; doesn&#8217;t necessarily equate to &#8220;it isn&#8217;t <em>work</em> to be a professional athlete.&#8221;  To be sure, that might be the intent, but it&#8217;s just as likely that it isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Garry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2004 23:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only did Arizona pay Sexson $9M to play in 23 games last year...they mortgaged their entire farm system to get in a losing season! I didn&#039;t think it was a very good GM decision for Arizona to pick this guy up to be a 1yr rent-a-player!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only did Arizona pay Sexson $9M to play in 23 games last year&#8230;they mortgaged their entire farm system to get in a losing season! I didn&#8217;t think it was a very good GM decision for Arizona to pick this guy up to be a 1yr rent-a-player!</p>
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		<title>By: Scraps</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scraps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Gee, what a shame it would be if he actually had to work for a few years after his baseball days are done.&lt;/i&gt;

Because goodness knows knows it isn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;work&lt;/i&gt; to be a professional athlete.  They&#039;re just playing a &lt;i&gt;game&lt;/i&gt;, not like the rest of us.

I think anyone who subscribes to the above sentiment should read David Foster Wallace&#039;s essay about the minor tennis player Michael Joyce, for starters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Gee, what a shame it would be if he actually had to work for a few years after his baseball days are done.</i></p>
<p>Because goodness knows knows it isn&#8217;t <i>work</i> to be a professional athlete.  They&#8217;re just playing a <i>game</i>, not like the rest of us.</p>
<p>I think anyone who subscribes to the above sentiment should read David Foster Wallace&#8217;s essay about the minor tennis player Michael Joyce, for starters.</p>
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		<title>By: KC</title>
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		<dc:creator>KC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2004 07:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As mentioned above, Sexson simply came back too soon from the initial injury.  I went back and read articles on ESPN and in local Arizona papers printed just before he came back.  If you read carefully, you can hear the Arizona coaches and trainers hinting he may be rushing back too fast.  This is the type of thing a solid team-oriented player wants to do -- and what the club is supposed to keep him from doing!
He had surgery, has rehabbed, and is currently swinging all-out in the cage.  Do I think he is worth the gamble?  Yes, on two conditions:
One, he is our second-best free agent pick-up (Glaus or Pavano come first, for example.)
Two, he is willing to come down a little in price.  If he signed for 3 years at 9 mil per, its worth it.  To turn this team around, the Mariners are going to need the minor leaguers to develop well, and to take risks in the open market.  Picture-perfect free agents like Beltran and Beltre will NEVER sign here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As mentioned above, Sexson simply came back too soon from the initial injury.  I went back and read articles on ESPN and in local Arizona papers printed just before he came back.  If you read carefully, you can hear the Arizona coaches and trainers hinting he may be rushing back too fast.  This is the type of thing a solid team-oriented player wants to do &#8212; and what the club is supposed to keep him from doing!<br />
He had surgery, has rehabbed, and is currently swinging all-out in the cage.  Do I think he is worth the gamble?  Yes, on two conditions:<br />
One, he is our second-best free agent pick-up (Glaus or Pavano come first, for example.)<br />
Two, he is willing to come down a little in price.  If he signed for 3 years at 9 mil per, its worth it.  To turn this team around, the Mariners are going to need the minor leaguers to develop well, and to take risks in the open market.  Picture-perfect free agents like Beltran and Beltre will NEVER sign here.</p>
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		<title>By: Bela Txadux</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bela Txadux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2004 03:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that I find Sexson&#039;s comments disturbing, but for a somewhat different reason.

In one sense Richie is the victim or just terribly rotten luck:  in his walk year after a monster year he stood to cash in for $30-$50M this offseason, more money than most people ever get to dream about, a true lottery payoff---and his shoulder tears on a swing.  So he rushes back after far too little rehab to prove &#039;he&#039;s healthy&#039; and keep his market value at peak---and completely blows up the shoulder with a truly terrible injury.  Yes, he hurt the shoulder _swinging_, which he will have to do 4-6 times a day, every day, for the rest of his career however long that is for him to have any value whatsoever to a MLB franchise.  He then spends the rest of last season on the shelf in return for which his team---who traded a bunch for him---was obligated to pay him the rest of $9M (none of which he offered to give back, it may be said, but then he wasn&#039;t obligated to give it back, no).  That impending $30-$50M just went up in smoke.  That&#039;s a blow to a person; come on, we can admit that, even if it&#039;s someone else&#039;s misfortune.

. . . But he&#039;s still in denial about the risks and context of his employment as a professional baseball hitter, and that concerns me greatly.  It is HIS shoulder, yes, and he&#039;s in a better position than anyone to know how it feels as of today, but he is in no position to evaluate how it will play over the course of next season to say nothing of beyond.  He already pushed himself to play with it once when he shouldn&#039;t have, with terrible consequences.  What I really hear him saying in that blurb is, &quot;No, no way I&#039;ve just lost $30-$50M, that&#039;s kind of hard to swallow.&quot;  In other words, he isn&#039;t even thinking about how to play, and for what next year, he&#039;s still in denial mode on the loss _he&#039;s already sustained_ from this PAST year.  I absolutely wouldn&#039;t take his advice on anything regarding his medical condition therefore, and it&#039;s not that I&#039;m calling him &#039;a liar,&#039; he&#039;s just not in touch with his present reality yet.  I doubt he could honestly tell anyone anything at the moment, particular with an agent hanging on to him praying that the wallet he had his hand in doesn&#039;t have the gaping hole at the bottom he&#039;s wiggling his fingers through as of today.  

And Sexson&#039;s present reality is and should be:  one-year, tiny guarantee, nearly all incentives.  Richie, buddy, if you are so confident in your shoulder than go on the market for a one-year and prove it to us, just like other guys have to.  It&#039;s a tough break that it was your walk year, but it is what it is, and _this_ is what everybody else has do do in your situation.  But even if he has a healthy year, which I suspect is highly unlikely, I would never sign him to any long-term guaranteed $, period; just one guaranteed and an option, or at most with subsequent voidables if the shoulder recurrs (which however makes the team look like the bad guy, so probably I wouldn&#039;t do that, either).  His shoulder could go at any time, assuming he can play at all.  

I completely agree that he is the kind of risk that a rebuilding team should avoid in all circumstances.  A team making a run for this year may want to gamble for &#039;this year,&#039; but a team laying a base for several years is crazy to _lock in_ continued high risk at high $$$, which is what Richie will be for at least the next three years.  If by outstanding medical care, religious rehab, and proven durability he performs over that span at something comparable to his Milwaukee years, he can start to talk about what he &#039;expects.&#039;  I expect a medical trainwreck, I&#039;m sad to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that I find Sexson&#8217;s comments disturbing, but for a somewhat different reason.</p>
<p>In one sense Richie is the victim or just terribly rotten luck:  in his walk year after a monster year he stood to cash in for $30-$50M this offseason, more money than most people ever get to dream about, a true lottery payoff&#8212;and his shoulder tears on a swing.  So he rushes back after far too little rehab to prove &#8216;he&#8217;s healthy&#8217; and keep his market value at peak&#8212;and completely blows up the shoulder with a truly terrible injury.  Yes, he hurt the shoulder _swinging_, which he will have to do 4-6 times a day, every day, for the rest of his career however long that is for him to have any value whatsoever to a MLB franchise.  He then spends the rest of last season on the shelf in return for which his team&#8212;who traded a bunch for him&#8212;was obligated to pay him the rest of $9M (none of which he offered to give back, it may be said, but then he wasn&#8217;t obligated to give it back, no).  That impending $30-$50M just went up in smoke.  That&#8217;s a blow to a person; come on, we can admit that, even if it&#8217;s someone else&#8217;s misfortune.</p>
<p>. . . But he&#8217;s still in denial about the risks and context of his employment as a professional baseball hitter, and that concerns me greatly.  It is HIS shoulder, yes, and he&#8217;s in a better position than anyone to know how it feels as of today, but he is in no position to evaluate how it will play over the course of next season to say nothing of beyond.  He already pushed himself to play with it once when he shouldn&#8217;t have, with terrible consequences.  What I really hear him saying in that blurb is, &#8220;No, no way I&#8217;ve just lost $30-$50M, that&#8217;s kind of hard to swallow.&#8221;  In other words, he isn&#8217;t even thinking about how to play, and for what next year, he&#8217;s still in denial mode on the loss _he&#8217;s already sustained_ from this PAST year.  I absolutely wouldn&#8217;t take his advice on anything regarding his medical condition therefore, and it&#8217;s not that I&#8217;m calling him &#8216;a liar,&#8217; he&#8217;s just not in touch with his present reality yet.  I doubt he could honestly tell anyone anything at the moment, particular with an agent hanging on to him praying that the wallet he had his hand in doesn&#8217;t have the gaping hole at the bottom he&#8217;s wiggling his fingers through as of today.  </p>
<p>And Sexson&#8217;s present reality is and should be:  one-year, tiny guarantee, nearly all incentives.  Richie, buddy, if you are so confident in your shoulder than go on the market for a one-year and prove it to us, just like other guys have to.  It&#8217;s a tough break that it was your walk year, but it is what it is, and _this_ is what everybody else has do do in your situation.  But even if he has a healthy year, which I suspect is highly unlikely, I would never sign him to any long-term guaranteed $, period; just one guaranteed and an option, or at most with subsequent voidables if the shoulder recurrs (which however makes the team look like the bad guy, so probably I wouldn&#8217;t do that, either).  His shoulder could go at any time, assuming he can play at all.  </p>
<p>I completely agree that he is the kind of risk that a rebuilding team should avoid in all circumstances.  A team making a run for this year may want to gamble for &#8216;this year,&#8217; but a team laying a base for several years is crazy to _lock in_ continued high risk at high $$$, which is what Richie will be for at least the next three years.  If by outstanding medical care, religious rehab, and proven durability he performs over that span at something comparable to his Milwaukee years, he can start to talk about what he &#8216;expects.&#8217;  I expect a medical trainwreck, I&#8217;m sad to say.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2004 02:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;it’s tough for me to sign an incentive-laden contract after all the (rehabilitation) time I put in&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;b&gt;Idahobob&lt;/b&gt; right there.  The statement &quot;I worked hard to get back in shape, therefore I want a contract that makes sure I get paid even if I do nothing to help my team.&quot;  Every player has worked hard to get there, including all the guys toiling in the minors.  I can understand his feelings, but I can&#039;t help but suspect he&#039;s worried about his shoulder going out again also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>it’s tough for me to sign an incentive-laden contract after all the (rehabilitation) time I put in</i></p>
<p><b>Idahobob</b> right there.  The statement &#8220;I worked hard to get back in shape, therefore I want a contract that makes sure I get paid even if I do nothing to help my team.&#8221;  Every player has worked hard to get there, including all the guys toiling in the minors.  I can understand his feelings, but I can&#8217;t help but suspect he&#8217;s worried about his shoulder going out again also.</p>
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		<title>By: Idahobob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Idahobob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2004 02:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is it &quot;entitlement&quot; to sell yourself? The fault will never lie in any person making a case for themself, only in the judgement of those buying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is it &#8220;entitlement&#8221; to sell yourself? The fault will never lie in any person making a case for themself, only in the judgement of those buying.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2004 02:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>120 games per year isn&#039;t exactly ironman status.  Especially if he has two years in which to do it, as the article seems to indicate.

If he&#039;s really that confident in his health he&#039;s going to get much more money on an incentive-based contract than on a guranteed one.  His comments don&#039;t make me hate him, but the sense of entitlement bothers me a bit.  The work he put in was so that he would have the chance to continue making millions of dollars a year playing baseball, not to be guranteed a cushy ride with no risks.  I don&#039;t hate him, I just don&#039;t want to see him pulling an Albert Belle on the M&#039;s payroll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>120 games per year isn&#8217;t exactly ironman status.  Especially if he has two years in which to do it, as the article seems to indicate.</p>
<p>If he&#8217;s really that confident in his health he&#8217;s going to get much more money on an incentive-based contract than on a guranteed one.  His comments don&#8217;t make me hate him, but the sense of entitlement bothers me a bit.  The work he put in was so that he would have the chance to continue making millions of dollars a year playing baseball, not to be guranteed a cushy ride with no risks.  I don&#8217;t hate him, I just don&#8217;t want to see him pulling an Albert Belle on the M&#8217;s payroll.</p>
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