Game 6, Rangers @ Mariners

Jeff · April 10, 2005 at 8:32 am · Filed Under Game Threads 

Have you recovered from yesterday’s stomach punch yet?

After two wildly exciting games featuring late-inning comebacks and dramatic errors, this afternoon is the rubber match: Ryan Drese v. Gil Meche, 1:05 p.m.

The next time I start to draw conclusions about where the season is headed based on these first few games, I’m going to remind myself that Ben Molina has more home runs than Hank Blalock, Wilson Valdez has a better batting average than Mark Teixeira and Johan Santana’s ERA is over 7.00. If a baseball season is a marathon, a week is one city block.

Comments

234 Responses to “Game 6, Rangers @ Mariners”

  1. Phil on April 10th, 2005 8:49 am

    It may be just a city block, but it’s been a painful one. Especially yesterday. And Bobby on the DL.

  2. fiction on April 10th, 2005 8:50 am

    If today’s game is anything close to previous games there will be a record number of posts. Especially since there was none for yesterday’s (Saturday) disapointment.

    Has Boone’s defensive skills eroded as much as it has appeared last season and the beginng of this season?

  3. Jeff Sullivan on April 10th, 2005 9:08 am

    This is game #6.

  4. Jeff on April 10th, 2005 9:12 am

    Non-linear thinking. Fixed.

  5. Jeff Sullivan on April 10th, 2005 9:41 am

    And to answer your question, yes. My mental state is characterized by incredible resilience.

  6. msb on April 10th, 2005 9:41 am

    #3– not that you’d know it frome the Times this morning :)

    “M’s reeling after late-inning woes”

  7. Aaron on April 10th, 2005 9:41 am

    The short answer: No. Yesterday was painful, but you are correct. This was an anomaly, the exception not the rule. (I hope.)

  8. David J Corcoran on April 10th, 2005 9:43 am

    We folks just need to remimmber that the M’s h ave just as good-a record as the BoSox. That’s perdy cool, if you catch my drift.

  9. Aaron on April 10th, 2005 9:50 am

    I look at that more as the Red Sox massively underachieving (which is hilarious) than as the Mariners playing well.

  10. Garry on April 10th, 2005 9:54 am

    Terrace Club?

    I got tickets there today for my family, never been in the Terrace Club, anybody know anything about these seats? Anything special?

  11. Jeff Sullivan on April 10th, 2005 9:58 am

    Terrace Club, eh? My, aren’t we special? Going to drive your Aston Martin V12 Vanquish to the game, or will you be taking your private helicopter?

    The Terrace Club is, by and large, quite similar to the club level at any other stadium. And based on the attendance so far, if you’re close enough to the outfield, you could have plenty of room to spread out.

  12. Garry on April 10th, 2005 10:02 am

    Well, actually my son has cancer, and the seats were given to us. Don’t you feel like an @ss now. We will have a good time at the game, I was just looking for some helpful Mariner fans to give us some insight?

  13. Jeff Sullivan on April 10th, 2005 10:06 am

    I think you missed the joke.

    If memory serves, you’ll get padded seats with a bit of shade, which is always nice on a sunny Sunday afternoon. You’ll also have all kinds of access to concessions, with a good view of the game to boot. But then, I haven’t been to Safeco for a year, so I might be screwing up some details.

  14. anotherjeff on April 10th, 2005 10:08 am

    Well, thankfully no one else in the AL west has come out of the blocks sprinting. It is far to early to be worried about the season, but late enough to get annoyed at stupid mistakes. Especially when it comes to routine fielding.

  15. Mojo on April 10th, 2005 10:10 am

    Garry, pretty sure Jeff was being sarcastic there. I think you jumped to conclusions. He was saying that the Terrace Club in nice and you have got yourself good seats.

  16. Garry on April 10th, 2005 10:14 am

    Thanks for the input, we’ll have a good time.

  17. MSH on April 10th, 2005 10:20 am

    The terrace has better seats (as in more comfortable), never gets rained on (*cough* yesterday *cough*), you don’t have to deal with hordes of people, and you can get even more over priced food delivered to your seats (a nice way to get coffee or hot chocolate on a chilly night though). The view is basically identical to those of veiw box seating above you. It gets you away from the crowd a little, which some folks like and some folks don’t.

  18. JMB on April 10th, 2005 10:36 am

    Best part about the Terrace Club? The bathrooms. No lines and much cleaner than elsewhere in the stadium. This is a plus for men and a huge plus for women.

    jason

  19. BDA on April 10th, 2005 11:08 am

    Also, they have TVs up there which can add information and/or replays. Overall, the view may not be as good as other seats, but it can be a pleasant experience.

  20. G-Man on April 10th, 2005 11:08 am

    I’ve had Terrace Club seats a few times. I recommend the food at the stand down the 1B line where they make sandwiches while you wait. The food served at the seats wasn’t so great the one time I got it. There’s a full bar. You can sit inside at stools behind the glass which might be much better seats than your assigned ones, but these are first-come, first served and therefore hard to get. People without T. C. seats can’t enter the section (maybe just applies to Infield T. C. seating area).

    Beware anyone buying seats there – I almost got some Obstructed View seats that the ticket window person didn’t warn me in advance were blocked. It’s printed on the tickets.

  21. John D. on April 10th, 2005 11:46 am

    Re: (# 2) THE BOONE BOO-BOO – I was talking to a friend–a pretty fair baseball player–some time ago about the Buckner thing.
    “He didn’t get his glove down,” the friend contended. “You can always come up, but you can’t always get down,” he continued.
    According to his post-game comments–in today’s Seattle TIMES–Boone seems to have forgotten this.

  22. paul mocker on April 10th, 2005 11:55 am

    Is 260/350/525 a reasonable expectation from Boone at July 1? I’m hoping Bavasi can deal him for prospects by the ASB in preparation for 2006.

  23. Pete Livengood on April 10th, 2005 11:55 am

    Jeff wrote: “If a baseball season is a marathon, a week is one city block.”

    Actually, it is more like 1 mile (there are 26 weeks in the season), but now I’m just being a smartass. ;-)

  24. JMB on April 10th, 2005 12:03 pm

    If Boone’s hitting 260/350/525 on July 1, there will certainly be takers. I think that AVG-to-OBP spread is a bit large, though, since he doesn’t walk all that much. Of course, if he’s hitting that well and the M’s aren’t out of the race, they should probably keep him around.

    jason

  25. paul mocker on April 10th, 2005 12:20 pm

    Agreed JMB.

    We’ll see how the seasons progresses. 4-5 games out at Sept 1 is darned hard to overcome so I would trade him even if 4-5 games out. A few years back, Bpro studied the likelihood of coming back from different # Games Behind. I think they found that the odds were a lot lower than one thought.

  26. Kilgore Trout on April 10th, 2005 12:20 pm

    #21

    Heh, talk about fundamentals. I was just drilling my little league team (9 & 10 year olds) on this yesterday. “Get your glove on the ground because it is much easier to come up on the ball than get down on it”.

  27. Andy Metz on April 10th, 2005 12:38 pm

    Not that the loss wasn’t mostly “Every once and While” Eddie’s fault, but did you see Boone’s error? Cripes. I was a better fielder than that in little league. Boone’s defense dropped off last year, but apparently it’s a free fall.

  28. zzyzx on April 10th, 2005 12:40 pm

    I wrote “Keep the glove down” on my glove to remind me of that.

  29. John in L.A. on April 10th, 2005 12:41 pm

    Last year was a baseball black hole for me. Work prohibited me from seeing almost any games.

    So can someone who did watch tell if the defense I’ve seen from Boone so far this year is a blip or if he lost a step last year? Not just errors… he doesn’t seem sharp at all, even on routine plays. I know I’m judging him primarily against himself, but is he in a defense decline?

  30. IgnatiusReilly on April 10th, 2005 12:45 pm

    My uncle has given me terrace club seats a few times; one other nice perk; you get a special parking pass to park on the first level. It takes five minutes to leave instead of 30.

  31. firova on April 10th, 2005 12:55 pm

    Terrace club is very, very civilized way to watch the game. No constant hawking, no people stepping all over you to get past, and the pesto chicken I had cooked for me as I watched was the best I’ve ever eaten, anywhere. Splurge and enjoy, especially on a sunny day.

  32. maxpower on April 10th, 2005 1:05 pm

    #31, ha ha, i think the most civilized way to watch a game is on tv at home, everything else is atmosphere

  33. Adam on April 10th, 2005 1:11 pm

    Does Meche ever have control?

  34. John in L.A. on April 10th, 2005 1:12 pm

    Wow was that a weak throw by Dan.

  35. David J Corcoran on April 10th, 2005 1:15 pm

    What was Ron Fairly talking about? I didn’t get it.

  36. maxpower on April 10th, 2005 1:18 pm

    i think fairly even confuses himself

  37. John in L.A. on April 10th, 2005 1:23 pm

    Announcers re: Willie Bloomquist

    “He may be the best center fielder the Mariners have, to tell you the truth.”

  38. zzyzx on April 10th, 2005 1:23 pm

    In short – it’s really hard to hit a homerun on a ground ball…

    If you get groundball outs, you give up fewer homers.

  39. maxpower on April 10th, 2005 1:41 pm

    wow, mads out at least three weeks

  40. Jon Wells on April 10th, 2005 1:43 pm

    In a statement released by the Mariners, the MRI revealed that Bobby Madritsch had a TEAR in the capsule of his shoulder and will not throw for the next three weeks. After that period he’ll have another “augmented” MRI… not great news

  41. Dave D on April 10th, 2005 1:43 pm

    Boone is off the juice for 2 years now, and look how baggy his uniform is on him, how slow his bat is sometimes, and how he is just listless out there in the field.

    Free-fall multiplied by a guy coming off of supplements, not a pretty sight.

  42. Adam on April 10th, 2005 1:45 pm

    The guy is old.

    He doesn’t like bending down anymore…

    I was really excited about seeing Bobby pitch this year.

    Wow.

  43. Noel on April 10th, 2005 1:50 pm

    Is it just me, or is Drese inducing a bunch of groundballs?… very few of his pitches have been struck sharply.

    Meanwhile, Meche is giving the warning track a workout.

    Hmmmm. Bill, we need some sinkerballers! Get on it.

  44. John in L.A. on April 10th, 2005 1:51 pm

    That was some seriously stupid baserunning.

    Getting tired of that already this young season.

  45. Ben on April 10th, 2005 1:52 pm

    #44

    Agreed. He looked like a deer caught in headlights. I sometimes wonder if their teaching them any fundementals now adays.

  46. KW on April 10th, 2005 1:53 pm

    Well, if Wilson and Bloomquist can get consecutive hits, that gives me a little more hope.

  47. Chuck on April 10th, 2005 1:53 pm

    Someone get a hose because willie bloomquist is on fire

  48. Noel on April 10th, 2005 1:53 pm

    I’m already getting tired of this “Willie’s batting 1.000″ drivel. Stop it, Rick.

  49. KW on April 10th, 2005 1:53 pm

    Drive ‘em in, Ichi!

  50. Paul on April 10th, 2005 1:56 pm

    What the hell is that umpire question Ichiro!’s judgement?

  51. Ben on April 10th, 2005 1:57 pm

    That was u-g-l-y.

  52. John in L.A. on April 10th, 2005 1:57 pm

    That ump is out of his mind. That strike was a full foot off the plate.

  53. KW on April 10th, 2005 1:57 pm

    Oh please. Good grief.

  54. Chuck on April 10th, 2005 1:58 pm

    talk about running yourself out of a scoring opportunity

  55. ahaha on April 10th, 2005 1:58 pm

    that inning was really beautiful… gives me the boost i need for the day, you know?

  56. Noel on April 10th, 2005 1:59 pm

    Ichiro!’s clearly not happy with the strike zone. I wonder if he’s ever been tossed from a game for arguing?

    Naaaaahhhhh, I guess not. :-)

  57. Paul on April 10th, 2005 1:59 pm

    Umpire’s name is Young right? I think I remember he’s a consistently lousy ump.

  58. Adam on April 10th, 2005 1:59 pm

    This is why you sould sit on your hands as a manager.

    Horrible 3rd strike call on Ichiro.

    Just, ugly.

    Ugly.

  59. Graham on April 10th, 2005 1:59 pm

    What the hell was that?

  60. stupified on April 10th, 2005 1:59 pm

    Wow did hear that right! It was announced Bloomquist M’s BEST centerfielder. I am so ignorant regarding M’s players as would have never thought he was best centerfielder M’s have.

    Beginng to wonder if Boone is best 2nd baseman in organization.

  61. Mitch on April 10th, 2005 2:00 pm

    Is it me or does every decision Hargrove make a bad one, I know it’s early but he has run us out of innings, put pitcher’s in the wrong situations (Thornton), not pinch hitting when he should. I was against this hiring before and even moreso after watching him manage. He was terrible in Baltimore and loaded in Clevelan – Manny, Lofton, Belle, Giles, Sexson, Thome, Baerga, Alomar, just to name a few.

  62. Chuck on April 10th, 2005 2:00 pm

    meche is getting bailed out by texas hitters. hardly any first pitch strikes, i have a feeling he’s gonna get hit hard soon.

  63. KW on April 10th, 2005 2:01 pm

    This is reminding me WAY too much of last year–consistently depressing.

  64. Jeremy on April 10th, 2005 2:01 pm

    Y’all can complain about Ron Fairly all you want, but at least he isn’t as bad as the Rangers crew (Josh Lewin and Tom Grieve).

    Thanks to them, I now know that the killer bees capital is Hidalgo, Texas. They were trying to tie in the fact that Richard Hidalgo used to play with the Astros.

    Idiots.

  65. KW on April 10th, 2005 2:04 pm

    Since when did a runner go first to third when Ichiro fielded the ball?

    Yes, I’m watching on Gameday.

  66. ahaha on April 10th, 2005 2:05 pm

    kw…it was a fairly slow hit ground ball…

  67. Noel on April 10th, 2005 2:05 pm

    If this umpire has such a liberal strike zone, why isn’t Meche getting more K’s?

    Bad pitching, that’s why.

  68. Paul on April 10th, 2005 2:06 pm

    Rizz said Junior is batting 2nd in Cin? ..oh how the mighty have fallen!

  69. JSL on April 10th, 2005 2:07 pm

    Valle says Meche should be throwing a 140 pitches a game??? I’m glad Valle isn’t the pitching coach…

  70. vj on April 10th, 2005 2:07 pm

    Chiming in from Germany: What do we think about the way the Ms ran themselves out of the bottom of the third inning?

  71. Paul on April 10th, 2005 2:08 pm

    OMG did the fan just steal it from ICHIRO! ?? [my town] sucks. (I can say that cause im a native!)

  72. Jeremy on April 10th, 2005 2:08 pm

    Kick that fan out, dammit.

  73. Mitch on April 10th, 2005 2:09 pm

    This year is starting to remind me of last year and with Mads going on to the DL we may be as bad as last year. Texas manager helps them out hit and run to avoid a DP Hargrove needs to take notes.

  74. Jeremy on April 10th, 2005 2:10 pm

    Thanks, idiot fan.

  75. Paul on April 10th, 2005 2:11 pm

    From Germany? Where? Yes I think that was Hargrove asleep at the wheel” wake up, they knew you’re going to steal! They saw it on the fake, I don’t see why he kept the play on.

  76. Paul on April 10th, 2005 2:12 pm

    Wee willie strikes again.

  77. Noel on April 10th, 2005 2:12 pm

    Well, at least Willie F. Bloomquist also makes errors in the field, even if he’s batting 1.000.

  78. Jeremy on April 10th, 2005 2:13 pm

    NOW THAT’S WOLF PRIDE, BABY!

  79. Noel on April 10th, 2005 2:13 pm

    Oh good, Thornton is warming up. Just what we needed.

  80. Harry on April 10th, 2005 2:14 pm

    They’ve already given up on the game, Thornton’s warming up.

  81. vj on April 10th, 2005 2:15 pm

    Frankfurt am Main. MLB.TV works ok for me. It is kind of late, though.

  82. Noel on April 10th, 2005 2:19 pm

    Yet another line drive off Meche. Has Drese given up *any* line drives or fly balls yet?

  83. Harry on April 10th, 2005 2:20 pm

    How often have I heard the phrase, “Dan just couldn’t hold onto it”?

  84. Paul on April 10th, 2005 2:20 pm

    Meche as Kasbah.

  85. Noel on April 10th, 2005 2:22 pm

    No K’s for Meche. Even with a wide strike zone.

  86. Phil on April 10th, 2005 2:22 pm

    I turned off the game. Too painful.

  87. John in L.A. on April 10th, 2005 2:22 pm

    The strike zone isn’t so much large as it is random. Though he is calling pitches inside on people batting leftie rather consistently. Consistently bad.

    I am really beginning to question Hargrove’s judgement. Lopez starts hitting so you put Willie in at short?

  88. Jeremy on April 10th, 2005 2:23 pm

    You mean Wilson Valdez, John.

    This whole inning has been a huge Exxon Valdez spill.

  89. ahaha on April 10th, 2005 2:24 pm

    btw, did you guys see the smarmy smirk on that guy’s face who stole out #2? Did you see ichiro stare him down in disbelief? did you see that piece of crap try and give ichi the ball back, like he was saying, “well, geez, here, if you want it so bad…” We should all go hunt him down and key his car or egg his face or something

  90. Jeremy on April 10th, 2005 2:26 pm

    89: I’d just give him 12 bucks so he can go to the souvenir stand and buy an official baseball if he wants one so bad.

  91. Morgan on April 10th, 2005 2:26 pm

    #89, yeah, what’s worse is that he was in half of the replays of every hit Meche gave up last inning. Same smug look on his face too.

    Someone needs to go spill their beer on him.

  92. Noel on April 10th, 2005 2:27 pm

    Wow, a hard-hit shot off Drese. Finally. Way to go, Jeremy.

  93. Noel on April 10th, 2005 2:33 pm

    What is it with frickin’ fans interfering with the play???

  94. ahaha on April 10th, 2005 2:33 pm

    well, that’s encouraging

  95. Mitch on April 10th, 2005 2:33 pm

    Sure looked like a dinger to me, off the fans glove bfore it made contact with Hidalgo’s glove.

  96. Jeremy on April 10th, 2005 2:34 pm

    These fans aren’t making Seattle fans look good at all.

    Embarassing.

  97. Paul on April 10th, 2005 2:34 pm

    UMPS BLOW ANOTHER CALL!! kill me now. Should have been a homer for sexson and 3 runs instead of 1. Lou would have had the umps head on a stick.

  98. Joe on April 10th, 2005 2:34 pm

    what happened — gameday stopped!

  99. John in L.A. on April 10th, 2005 2:35 pm

    Jesus. This is a farce.

  100. Noel on April 10th, 2005 2:35 pm

    You broke Gameday!! =8O

  101. Morgan on April 10th, 2005 2:35 pm

    Laaaame. Sexson wuz robbed.

  102. Ben on April 10th, 2005 2:36 pm

    Ron and Dave need to get some freakin glasses. It was obvious from the first replay that the fans glove touched the ball. Digusting call, along with digusting play from the ‘fan’.

  103. Winslow on April 10th, 2005 2:36 pm

    Well, runners on 2nd and 3rd, no way we can run ourselves out of this inning.

  104. Joe on April 10th, 2005 2:36 pm

    ok, i think i got it — ground rule double for sexson?

  105. Noel on April 10th, 2005 2:37 pm

    So Drese is finally starting to give up a few more flyballs. That’s promising.

  106. David J Corcoran on April 10th, 2005 2:38 pm

    OK. Fans in rows 1-5 should not be allowed to bring gloves to the stadium. That should be a new stadium policy.

  107. Paul on April 10th, 2005 2:39 pm

    novice fans: WHEN OTHER TEAM IS BATTING, DONT CATCH THE BALL (ITS A HOMER)
    WHEN WE BAT, MAKE SURE YOU CATCH IT, DONT KNOCK IT ONTO THE FIELD.
    Now if we could just broadcast it over safeco…

  108. Jeremy on April 10th, 2005 2:40 pm

    Paul,

    That wouldn’t help matters. I learned a long time ago that not all Seattle fans are going to be like me. Sad but true.

  109. Noel on April 10th, 2005 2:41 pm

    Yeah Thornton! 3-pitch K. Now just keep doing that for another 50 innings and all will be forgiven.

  110. ahaha on April 10th, 2005 2:41 pm

    no use complaining about thornton now…. nice k.

  111. Harry on April 10th, 2005 2:41 pm

    Wow, Thornton struck out Hidalgo. He has been good this series.

  112. Morgan on April 10th, 2005 2:42 pm

    #108, yeah, like the fans screaming and yelling and making noise during a Seahawk 3rd down during the playoff game against the Rams. False start and the ‘hawks were soon punting.

  113. Todd on April 10th, 2005 2:43 pm

    Fortunately, the call and the fan action did not stop the three runs from scoring.

    P.S. Rizz just said that Mads had a “tear” and that he will be in a sling for three weeks, after which his arm will be re-assessed. If Mads is done, someone should write some sort of condemnation about Melvin’s use of Mads last year.

  114. John in L.A. on April 10th, 2005 2:43 pm

    THIS UMPIRE SUCKS.

    Last all caps from me. Apologies.

  115. Mitch on April 10th, 2005 2:43 pm

    It looked like Thornton should have struck out Delluci twice but instead he walks. This ump is a joke.

  116. ahaha on April 10th, 2005 2:44 pm

    two of those pitches were strikes two innings ago…

  117. Jesse on April 10th, 2005 2:44 pm

    Hey, if that fan reaches out over the wall to catch it, is that still a home run or does it have to be out of the park when it hits the fan’s glove?

  118. Noel on April 10th, 2005 2:46 pm

    If you’re in Yankee Stadium, and the fan’s name is Jeffrey Maier, it’s a home run.

  119. Marty Lighthizer on April 10th, 2005 2:46 pm

    Just wondering… Do the Mariners know that spring training is over? For that matter, have the umpires been advised of this as well?

  120. Mitch on April 10th, 2005 2:46 pm

    If he reaches over the fence it isn’t a Homerun, and in some cases may even be an out based on the umps decision.

  121. Jeremy on April 10th, 2005 2:47 pm

    113: I posted Mads’ pitch counts from 2004 earlier this week at Sports and Bremertonians. Here’s the link.

    http://bremertonians.blogspot.com/2005/04/downright-scary.html

    Thanks, Melvin.

  122. MSH on April 10th, 2005 2:49 pm

    So who’s the guy they put in Thornton’s uniform?

  123. Jeremy on April 10th, 2005 2:49 pm

    122: Arthur Rhodes? Same number, heh.

  124. Todd on April 10th, 2005 2:49 pm

    Wow, I remember a couple of heavy usage outings, but nothing like that list. Hargrove can run the M’s out of two innings a game, and he is still superior to BoMel.

  125. ahaha on April 10th, 2005 2:50 pm

    maybe we should make it dan wilson t-shirt night every night…

  126. Noel on April 10th, 2005 2:50 pm

    Oh good, we’re not the only team with a crappy catcher.

  127. Noel on April 10th, 2005 2:52 pm

    Ichiro is gonna have to get his butt into gear if he wants to pick up his usual two hits this game.

  128. Todd on April 10th, 2005 2:52 pm

    I am beginning to think that Ichiro will not bat .500 for the season.

  129. ahaha on April 10th, 2005 2:53 pm

    wow, the texas infield is looking uglier than us

  130. Jeremy on April 10th, 2005 2:53 pm

    Ichiro can blame that “fan” in right field.

  131. anotherjeff on April 10th, 2005 2:53 pm

    Hello spots fans. Got up from a nap in time to watch Meche get rocked and watch Sexon get robbed. But things are looking up now. Thornton seems slightly out of character today.

  132. MSH on April 10th, 2005 2:53 pm

    Apparently we aren’t the only team that can really screw up an inning. Error on second, no one on first? Sheesh…

  133. christopher rao on April 10th, 2005 2:53 pm

    Anyone else notice that the BOA “Higher Standards” clip today was of Bloomquist making an error?

  134. Noel on April 10th, 2005 2:54 pm

    Yeah Richie!!

  135. Noel on April 10th, 2005 2:55 pm

    Well at least Magnolia got their moment today.

  136. MSH on April 10th, 2005 2:55 pm

    Okay, it’s official. This is much more fun then last year.

  137. ahaha on April 10th, 2005 2:55 pm

    holy moly!! Richie is a hero! A HERO!!!!

  138. Winslow on April 10th, 2005 2:55 pm

    BIG SEXY!

  139. Mitch on April 10th, 2005 2:57 pm

    Richie is the man

  140. Noel on April 10th, 2005 2:57 pm

    Yeah, I’m just waiting for Rizzs or Niehaus to call him “Sexy” in an unguarded moment. :)

  141. Paul on April 10th, 2005 2:57 pm

    Booyah! Richie is mashing right now.

  142. AK1984 on April 10th, 2005 2:57 pm

    Yeah, these games — whether the M’s win or lose — are way more enjoyable to watch.

  143. Paul on April 10th, 2005 2:58 pm

    Noel — I think someone already did
    say sexy this year.. I forget who.

  144. Mitch on April 10th, 2005 2:59 pm

    Thornton sure is in a grove. Looking dominant, where was that against the Twins.

  145. anotherjeff on April 10th, 2005 3:01 pm

    Rizz must of had to take a whizz. I’m heaaring it in spanish.

  146. ahaha on April 10th, 2005 3:01 pm

    what? español? que hora es?

  147. Winslow on April 10th, 2005 3:01 pm

    wow, they’re doing it in Spanish now, cool

  148. Chris on April 10th, 2005 3:01 pm

    The game is better in Spanish than with Rizzs and Henderson. If only I could get the SAP channel on mlb.tv

  149. anotherjeff on April 10th, 2005 3:02 pm

    Thornton looks good today.

  150. Noel on April 10th, 2005 3:05 pm

    Buehrle vs Santana, wish I could see that one.

  151. Jeremy on April 10th, 2005 3:05 pm

    I wonder what “This team never quits” in Spanish means.

  152. MSH on April 10th, 2005 3:05 pm

    I swear that guy on the mound looks *exactly* like Matt Thornton. It’s uncanny.

  153. Noel on April 10th, 2005 3:06 pm

    Whoohoo! I just checked the TV listings in my neck of the woods and they are showing the Minnesota/ChiSox game today.

  154. Noel on April 10th, 2005 3:07 pm

    So we don’t have Santana in Thornton’s clothing. Drat. :(

  155. Harry on April 10th, 2005 3:08 pm

    What a catch by Ichiro. Thus Thornton continues to look fine, as opposed to giving it up again.

  156. Paul on April 10th, 2005 3:10 pm

    Matt saw his life (in the major league) flash before him.

  157. Noel on April 10th, 2005 3:11 pm

    Thornton for starter! :)

  158. Noel on April 10th, 2005 3:15 pm

    If Thornton isn’t careful, his ERA will drop into single digits. It’s currently 10.12.

  159. Morgan on April 10th, 2005 3:16 pm

    This looks more like the Thornton I expected.

  160. ahaha on April 10th, 2005 3:16 pm

    fantastic! there’s the thornton we all know

  161. Noel on April 10th, 2005 3:17 pm

    Oh good, Villone is warming up.

  162. anotherjeff on April 10th, 2005 3:20 pm

    I hope he survives through Hidalgo

  163. Paul on April 10th, 2005 3:20 pm

    Oh and Nelson. Sluggers and unreliable relief, bad record… when do we get Lou back?

  164. Chris on April 10th, 2005 3:21 pm

    Did that popup just hit Sexson in the nuts?

  165. ahaha on April 10th, 2005 3:22 pm

    yeah, that’s what it looked like

  166. Chris on April 10th, 2005 3:23 pm

    Might have to change his nickname.

  167. Jeff Sullivan on April 10th, 2005 3:23 pm

    Matt’s back.

  168. ahaha on April 10th, 2005 3:24 pm

    That…. wasn’t surprising

  169. Tim Kelly on April 10th, 2005 3:24 pm

    Haha the games on in your area because it’s Sunday Night Baseball.

  170. Noel on April 10th, 2005 3:24 pm

    Bad Matt.

  171. Paul on April 10th, 2005 3:26 pm

    Earth to Hargrove… are you recieving?

  172. Noel on April 10th, 2005 3:29 pm

    Time for another comeback…

  173. Noel on April 10th, 2005 3:29 pm

    Whoa, the tension. Will Willie preserve his 1.000 average?

  174. theMook on April 10th, 2005 3:29 pm

    You could see that coming. He was up in the zone all inning. Left him in too long.

  175. theMook on April 10th, 2005 3:30 pm

    Pretty decent outing overall though.

  176. Noel on April 10th, 2005 3:31 pm

    I guess Willie isn’t the Greek God of Hits after all.

  177. Chris on April 10th, 2005 3:32 pm

    There we go. the streak is alive!!

  178. theMook on April 10th, 2005 3:32 pm

    I-chi-rooo!

  179. Mitch on April 10th, 2005 3:32 pm

    Do we have another one in us?

  180. Noel on April 10th, 2005 3:32 pm

    Ichiro’s back… hey, he just has to go 3-6 for the day to keep his average up where it belongs.

  181. ahaha on April 10th, 2005 3:34 pm

    god, i love that geico commercial

  182. Chris on April 10th, 2005 3:35 pm

    For my own peace of mind, I might prefer it if he doesn’t get a hit in a game sometime soon. Just so I don’t have to worry about him retiring after hitting in every game this season.

  183. John in L.A. on April 10th, 2005 3:40 pm

    I’ve got a nominee or two for the Pepsi “Fan of the game”.

  184. Jeff Sullivan on April 10th, 2005 3:40 pm

    The first time I saw that ad, I was looking forward to the Tiny House premiere.

  185. John in L.A. on April 10th, 2005 3:40 pm

    Oh man. It’s Jeff “leadoff walk” Nelson.

  186. Jesse on April 10th, 2005 3:41 pm

    You know, I actually feel bad for Thornton this time around. There is NO way he should have been left out there for a 3rd inning. What was Hargrove thinking? If you get two scoreless inning from Matt-frickin-Thornton, you don’t push your luck.

  187. zzyzx on April 10th, 2005 3:43 pm

    The Japanese announcer have a lot less idle chatter in their booth.

  188. ahaha on April 10th, 2005 3:46 pm

    what? nihongo? ima nanjidesuka?

  189. DMZ on April 10th, 2005 3:47 pm

    I wonder if Rizzs will be talking about how Japanese is a beautiful language?

  190. Noel on April 10th, 2005 3:49 pm

    Omigod, Nellie had a good inning.

  191. John in L.A. on April 10th, 2005 3:50 pm

    Nelson gave up a walk and a hit and scared me. If that’s his good inning, I don’t want to keep him around to see the bad.

  192. DMZ on April 10th, 2005 3:50 pm

    I like that Rizzs got that cheap shot in against Japanese. Henderson’s commenting on how in Japanese broadcasts, they’d say Henderson-san, and Rizzs adds “Henderson-son-son” . That’s classy. Spanish, though — beautiful language to Rizzs

  193. anotherjeff on April 10th, 2005 3:51 pm

    #189

    He did sound rather turned on by Spanish.

  194. KW on April 10th, 2005 3:52 pm

    Memo to Mariners: Rally.

  195. Noel on April 10th, 2005 3:53 pm

    Hey DMZ, welcome. Your impressions of the game so far?…

  196. ahaha on April 10th, 2005 3:54 pm

    wouldn’t call it a cheap shot so much as a gratingly ignorant middle-aged, middle-class attempt at humor

  197. ahaha on April 10th, 2005 3:57 pm

    I’d have really liked that to be a home run.

  198. DMZ on April 10th, 2005 4:00 pm

    Here’s the thing. There are languages that are more pleasing to the ear in that there’s a lot of soft consonants and more long vowels. This is why people think French is beautiful but German is harsh.

    My problem is that Rizzs gushed about how much he loved Spanish and what a beatufiul language it is, but when they came back from the NHK Japanese broadcast, all he’s got is a crack about the use of honorifics.

  199. DMZ on April 10th, 2005 4:03 pm

    I also have to say that those commercials are wearing thin on me already.

  200. KW on April 10th, 2005 4:05 pm

    Maybe he liked Spanish and didn’t like Japanese. Just a thought.

  201. ahaha on April 10th, 2005 4:05 pm

    dmz, right… it is odd, though, how the phonemes of one language are intrisically more aesthetically pleasing than the phonemes of another. I’m not convinced that we can chalk that all up to environmental conditioning… but I don’t really know much about the matter, so I guess I can’t say for sure.

  202. Jeremy on April 10th, 2005 4:06 pm

    KW: It doesn’t matter. When you’re a public figure like Rick Rizzs, you shouldn’t make those comments on the air. Period.

  203. Chris on April 10th, 2005 4:06 pm

    Nice outing for Villone. Now we’ve got the big bats coming up…

  204. DMZ on April 10th, 2005 4:08 pm

    Since you asked: my impressions so far
    “Did Niehaus really just say he might be the best center fielder on the team? Still, Bloomquist looks really good at short so far — Oh, he butched that! Man, that was ugly.”
    “Why does the cursor seem to randomly jump around typing on the Mac? Is this some kind of key code thing?”
    “Should I start keeping a running track of the weird decisions Hargrove makes now, for documentation purposes when people ask us later why we’ve turned on him?”

  205. Harry on April 10th, 2005 4:10 pm

    That was the first time I saw the batter’s box commercial with Ichiro. “I hit singles in mine. All. The. Time.” It made me grin, but I can see how it will get old.

    Ooh, a nice ride by Winn there. Too bad.

  206. KW on April 10th, 2005 4:11 pm

    Jeremy:

    I should apologise for commenting when I didn’t hear Rizzs in the first place. I don’t have a problem with a public figure expressing a personal preference for one language over another. Cheap shots or unfairly derogatory comments are another thing. Since I don’t know which class his comments fall into, I shouldn’t have said anything.

  207. DMZ on April 10th, 2005 4:11 pm

    Dobbs pinch hitting for Wilson. This is like… renting a Chevy Citation because you’re tired of your Fiero

  208. Jesse on April 10th, 2005 4:12 pm

    RE: 204

    Yes, you should. I recognize that it’s totally ridiculous to turn on someone this quickly, but I’m really furious.

  209. DMZ on April 10th, 2005 4:13 pm

    Spiezio pinch hitting for Bloomquist. Hee hee hee.

  210. ahaha on April 10th, 2005 4:13 pm

    Do you have a powerbook? Try going into the keyboard settings and checking the thing that turns off the trackpad when you type. That only helps sometimes though. Otherwise, I guess you just have to use proper typing posture.

    Also, the Hargrove thing? Yes. But don’t publish it until he’s gone; it’ll just be depressing in the meantime.

  211. KW on April 10th, 2005 4:13 pm

    And there goes the game.

  212. Harry on April 10th, 2005 4:13 pm

    dropped the first two series… it’s a bummer.

  213. Noel on April 10th, 2005 4:14 pm

    I second that. Absolutely start documenting Grover’s decisions.

  214. KW on April 10th, 2005 4:14 pm

    And there goes the game.

    (PS: What’s all this about “You can only post a comment every 15 seconds. Slow down cowboy”? Hello?)

  215. KW on April 10th, 2005 4:14 pm

    Oh I see, I double-posted. Sorry.

  216. Noel on April 10th, 2005 4:14 pm

    Playoff at the Masters.

  217. Noel on April 10th, 2005 4:15 pm

    Go Chris DiMarco.

  218. JeffF on April 10th, 2005 4:40 pm

    How about a ban on baseball mitts anywhere near the field of play, since Mariners fans are apparently too stupid to understand that they’re not actually on the team and have no business interfering with play.

  219. Phil on April 10th, 2005 5:04 pm

    And Thornton was allowed to play because …?

  220. oneagain on April 10th, 2005 5:20 pm

    DMZ–Yes to keep track of all Hargrove’s bad moves. Was giving him benefit of doubt until he learned players, then again a win in April is (at least could be) as important as win in Sept. especially against division rivals.

    Missed game but if Rizz offened Japanese addios to him as the majority ownership will exact proper penalty.

  221. anotherjeff on April 10th, 2005 5:25 pm

    Rizz may be kind of hard to listen to sometimes, but come on. That really wasnt offensive. Just stupid.

  222. John D. on April 10th, 2005 5:31 pm

    Re: ( 218 & others) THE 10TH FIELDER – Seattle doesn’t have a monopoly on this foolishness (fans interfering with the play of the game). Remember last year’s Cub series (Moises Alou)?
    Or the aforementioned Jeffrey Maier thing ?

  223. Jeff if Fremont on April 10th, 2005 5:37 pm

    So one week in and fifteen teams are 3-3, and the M’s have the same record as the BoSox. Let’s give it a month or two before we start either panicking or jumping for joy.

  224. DMZ on April 10th, 2005 5:38 pm

    w/r/t RIZZS:

    I wouldn’t say it was offensive, though it flirted with being offensive. It was just such a jarring contrast: oooooooooooh, Spanish is sooooooooooooooo beautiful, those announcers were sooooo good…. Check out how wacky those Japanese people are with their crazy way of speaking! Ha ha ha! They’re craaazy!

  225. John D. on April 10th, 2005 6:04 pm

    Re: (# 121) THE PERSPICACITY OF BOB MELVIN – Here’s more, compliments of ROTOWORLD:

    Jose Cruz Jr. was held out of the starting lineup in favor of Quinton McCracken for the second straight game today.

    Cruz did play half of yesterday’s extra-inning game after replacing McCracken. His absence certainly hasn’t been for performance reasons. He has an 1106 OPS and seven RBI in 17 AB. Apr. 10 – 8:30 pm et

    QUINTON McCRACKEN ?

  226. Bernard Aboba on April 10th, 2005 6:09 pm

    #204 – Here are the wierd decisions on my list:

    a. Going to Spiezio to pinch hit three times in the series. OK, he looked at a third strike in the first game, but the ump missed the call and he walked, helping to keep the rally alive. But this was not justification to call upon him to pinch hit twice more in this series.

    b. Over insistence on L-R matchups and roles. Hargrove seems to manage very strictly by the book in this respect. This is the kind of logic that can result in keeping Matt Thornton on the roster, even though George Sherrill would probably compile a lower ERA in more innings over the course of a season (regardless of whether he faced left or right handed batters).

    c. Fast hook. For example, in the first series he pulls Meche early for Thornton. This did not work out well, but even more importantly, if he keeps this up he is going to exhaust the bullpen mid-way through the season. Given how the bullpen is performing when rested, this could get very ugly down the road.

  227. Jim on April 10th, 2005 6:41 pm

    Two comments from among the teeming masses at the Safe today:
    1) This looks alot like 96, 98, 99, and any other year when the M’s had a killer offense and absolutely no one to hold the lead. Note that in those years we were out of the race (perhaps not mathematically but in spirit) by 9/1.
    2) When are the idiots who attend these games going to realize we have a bona fide All-Star and Edgar replacement in Adrian Beltre, and make a little friggin noise when he comes to the plate? Come on people, Randy Winn gets more applause than Beltre. Sure, he wasn’t a 95 or 97 or 01 hero, but let’s make the guy feel appreciated, at least!

  228. anotherjeff on April 10th, 2005 6:41 pm

    #226

    While I agree that the fast hook isnt such a good thing considering the issues with the bullpen, I dont know where Grover has alot of good options in the matter. His starters arent pitching to keep the team in the game. Do you let Meche self distruct further and damage and already shaky confidence? Mads tore a ligament leading to an early change. Moyer was up in his pitch count lastnight. So the more I think about it, the harder the decision seems. Just pray that Franklin eats up some innings tomorrow to give the bullpen a rest. A healthy and effective Pinero would be pretty helpful too.

    I assume that Spezio was used to pinch hit because of his ability to swing from the left side. Though in the end it didnt make alot of difference.

  229. Tim in Japan on April 11th, 2005 2:35 am

    From what I’ve heard from non-English native speakers, English is not a particularly pleasing language to foreign ears who can’t understand it. Japanese I’ve learned to the point where it no longer sounds strange to me. Chinese I don’t understand at all, and it sounds really weird to me, with a lot of tone changes and strange sounds.

  230. anotherjeff on April 11th, 2005 9:20 am

    The Times has pictures of the fans who muffed things up. I hope those two guys woke up today feeling just plain stupid. Especially the slob who got in Ichiros way.

  231. Ralph Malph on April 11th, 2005 10:26 am

    Years ago I was watching a Cubs game and they were talking about Japanese players. I don’t remember if there was a Japanese player in the game (this would have been before Nomo) or how it came up, but Caray went into a riff about how small the Japanese are, ending with the line “you never see a fat Jap”. Which caused Steve Stone to quickly change the subject.

  232. Ralph Malph on April 11th, 2005 10:26 am

    Harry Caray I mean, of course.

  233. Jeremy on April 11th, 2005 12:47 pm

    The Mariners could use Steve Stone in the broadcasting booth.

  234. Tim in Japan on April 11th, 2005 3:32 pm

    Haray Caray reminds me of my late grandmother, who would say politically incorrect things like that while we were eating at a restaurant and in a loud voice so that everyone around could hear.