Game 98, Tigers at M’s

Dave · July 25, 2005 at 7:10 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Ryan Franklin takes on the Tigers. Words cannot express my excitement.

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128 Responses to “Game 98, Tigers at M’s”

  1. LB on July 25th, 2005 9:39 pm

    #97: Apologists say: Yeah, but he’s playing out of position every day he goes out there.

    Ah, the life of the super-sub.

  2. argh on July 25th, 2005 9:43 pm

    Obviously I’m having some trouble with the interface here. Sorry about that.

  3. Dave on July 25th, 2005 9:43 pm

    What’s the tax on a $40 ticket? Like $3.50? Krueger thinks players aren’t giving out passes to their friends and family anymore because they have to pay $3.50 a piece for them now?

  4. Jim Osmer on July 25th, 2005 9:45 pm

    #(( Dave—thanks for the explanation. I think you are correct in the extremes get noticed (Griffey, Sheff, Guerrero, etc.).
    What I have seen of Doyle is not home run power but he hits everything hard compared to say Reed and Morse who slap the ball around. Doyle reminds me of Brian Giles though he won’t hit that many HRs.
    Does Bavasi understand that if he played Doyle everyday, he would suddenly gain a large cadre of volunteers to mow his lawn, wash his car, do his kids homework?

  5. jtopps on July 25th, 2005 9:45 pm

    PMC-
    Yes. Wow is right. Tell all your friends, especially if they are the general manager of a MLB team. Don’t forget to remind them that he is also a lefty. Hurry! While supplies last!

  6. dumy on July 25th, 2005 9:46 pm

    reeds is hitting like eckstein…weak

  7. eponymous coward on July 25th, 2005 9:47 pm

    The income tax is actually going to be something like $10 on a $40 ticket, since ballplayers are in the highest income tax bracket (28%).

  8. Goose on July 25th, 2005 9:52 pm

    Come on eddie, finish this

  9. eponymous coward on July 25th, 2005 9:52 pm

    Thanks for making the game entertaining, Eddie. Except the opposite of that.

  10. Shoeless Jose on July 25th, 2005 9:52 pm

    Uh, there are a couple of tax brackets above 28%….

  11. Goose on July 25th, 2005 9:54 pm

    Mariners win!

  12. Dave on July 25th, 2005 9:55 pm

    Umm, I’d assume they’d be paying sales tax, not income tax, on tickets that they’re purchasing for their friends and relatives at an employee discount (which, in this case, just happens to be 100 percent).

  13. anotherjeff on July 25th, 2005 9:56 pm

    For the love of all things good…Bavasi need to cash in on Eddie right now.

  14. Gunga on July 25th, 2005 9:57 pm

    Any research done on pitchers who continuously scare the CRAP out of fans but who still consistently get the job done?

  15. Paul Molitor Cocktail on July 25th, 2005 10:00 pm

    Villone can start, too. He’d look great in pinstripes.

  16. jtopps on July 25th, 2005 10:04 pm

    Plus, you’ll want Villone ON YOUR SIDE next time the Red Sox/Yanks clear the benches. He’s got a mean glint in his eye…

  17. LB on July 25th, 2005 10:11 pm

    #112: No, I think ec has it right. Free tickets are likely now considered a benefit for ballplayers in the same way that free health club memberships are for normal folks. I can tell you over the years I paid a lot of income tax on the imputed value of my health club memberships.

  18. LB on July 25th, 2005 10:13 pm

    #112: Also, you pay sales tax on the actual purchase price of employee discounted items. I bought enough discounted software in a previous life to know about that.

  19. eponymous coward on July 25th, 2005 10:16 pm

    LB is correct. The IRS is going after athletes for the imputed income derived from free tickets to sporting events, and THAT is why players have to use a computer in the clubhouse to order them, etc.

  20. LB on July 25th, 2005 10:24 pm

    More on taxes on free tickets here:
    http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7341905/

    “The new system could increase a player’s tax bill by more than $11,000.”

    In the 35% bracket, that would work out to $31,428 worth of tickets, or $194 worth of tickets to each of 162 games. 4@ $50/seat sounds about right, since friends and family aren’t stuffed into the upper deck or out in the bleachers.

    I think the big problem is when some players (e.g. rookies) go back to ballparks close to their hometowns, they have 20 or more people wanting tickets. In the past, teammates have been glad to oblige to hand over their own unused comped tickets. Adding in tax makes being generous in those cases more complicated.

  21. eponymous coward on July 25th, 2005 10:26 pm

    Here’s an article…

    http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7341905/

    And, whoops, it’s the 39% bracket. So make that $15 on a $40 ticket.

  22. mln on July 25th, 2005 10:56 pm

    Yeah! The Mariners win another meaningless game.

    Now, for the real fun … deadline deal gossip.

  23. Shawn S on July 25th, 2005 11:21 pm

    Cha Seung Baek’s Line From tonight in Tacoma:
    Baek (L, 7-5) 2.1(IP) 12(H) 10(R) 10(ER) 2(BB) 1(SO) 2(HR)
    Ouch.

  24. Daaaaan on July 25th, 2005 11:59 pm

    #38 totally agree. everyone knows beltre has skills that 4 years of statistics have just failed to capture. like numchuck skills, and computer hacking skills, and and…

  25. Jon Wells on July 26th, 2005 12:19 am

    Finnigan’s follow-up on Winn/Pavano:

    “In talks with the Yankees about a trade that might involve Randy Winn for pitcher Carl Pavano, the Mariners are believed to have discussed including a starting pitcher in the deal. New York is seeking mound help, as well as a replacement for center fielder Bernie Williams.

    The Yankees seemingly expressed no interest in left-hander Jamie Moyer, so Seattle might be willing to deal right-hander Joel Pineiro, who might thrive with the increased run support the Yankees could give him.”

  26. Matto on July 26th, 2005 12:46 am

    Piniero? The Yankee fans would eat him alive. They think Kevin Brown is bad? If the M’s can do this, they should do it. saves even that much more $$ off the books for next year. That being said, it was Finnigan who said it.

  27. Jim on July 26th, 2005 12:17 pm

    #116 – Villone caught the ceremonial first pitch tonight (from Marcus Trufant) and was introduced as a “former college football player” – just what the Yanks need to stare down Varitek in one of those September grudge matches. He’s clearly not afraid to hit a batter!

    The odd part was, Villone signed the ball for Trufant (like the catcher always does for the first-pitch guest). Somehow that seems backward….. Somehow, out in Cheney this week, no one will utter the words “Yo Marcus, lemme check out that Ron Villone autographed ball!”

  28. Mountainman Ernie on July 26th, 2005 3:25 pm

    Good win, now trade for Giambi, Posada, and Sheffield. New York pick any three, plus the Putz.

    Ernie