Game 151, Mariners at Blue Jays
Dave · September 20, 2005 at 3:42 pm · Filed Under Mariners
The Blue Jays throw Josh Towers at the Mariners tandem-starter combination of Jeff Harris and Gil Meche. Meche will come out of the pen at some point and pitch several innings. If he’s successful in this stint, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the M’s continue it the rest of the year, and give some thought to using Meche as a reliever going forward. He’s been a disaster as a starting pitcher, and a move to the bullpen might be the last resort to salvage his career.
Also, in non-Mariner related news, we have official documentation that people from Idaho are totally insane. Sorry Corco, but I mean, seriously, the Japanese caused Hurrican Katrina? And this guy is a local celebrity?
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Is everyone at Dennys?
First test of Gil Meche, future closer!
Because Franklin hasn’t kicked the groundsmen yet.
Meche looks rested. An eleven pitch inning. The radio post is already priming for the “Meche as possbile closer” discussion.
#98 — I hope that Yubet’s first homer is of the inside the park variety.
102, why not. I think he might be one of those success stories (starter converted to closer) because at least for now starting is a failure.
104, I ‘d love to see that — inside the park for Yubet that is.
I suppose it’s too much to hope for a 9th inning rally 2 days in a row….
btw, Nelson was whining *because* he wasn’t being used much.
Now if we just have the following sequence of events
Beltre single
Dobbs single
Lopez Double
Betancourt Triple
etc.
Of course he’d more effective out of the bullpen, Red. Almost every pitcher is.
The strange tale of the tape: the M’s have out hit the Jays, have put more balls in play, have had better defense, but are still losing.
Forgot I even posted 108.
Sorry, I mean “forget”
I think Nelson put the final nail in his M’s career by blaming his last crummy outing on the manager, saying he didn’t get long enough to warm up. I’m surprised Franklin never used that excuse, though it wouldn’t sound as good from a starting pitcher.
The “JohnLScottdotcom” jingle is very soulful.
Down goes Frasor! Down goes Frasor!
interesting ‘Fan of the game’ shot tonight… am I right remembering that Canadian beer is still stronger than US beer?
I can totally see Jason sitting in his kitchen, watching the game on MLB.tv, cutting carrots with a newly sharpened knife, chanting “Down Goes Frasor!” as he types maniacally on the blog. I think JMB needs his own reality show.
Yeah, I’m sure Yuni could have run over Hinske.
Rally! Rally! Rally! Your sister’s name is Sally!
What does it say that the M’s are 1-2 in pinch hitting appearances?
I’m not sure what to say to that, Dave, I’m really not.
gosh. wonder what it would be like to have a ‘big bat’ come off the bench…
How about USS Mariner reality show. One hour of people sitting down, typing at the keyboard occasionally laughing, swearing, drinking, and passing out. What a show!
122, how about a big stomach instead. If Grover could pinch hit his stomach would easily draw a HBP.
Someone named Tim Corcoran is pitching for the Devil Rays right now.
It seems the scouting report on Yubet is low and away. Yawn : 0
How many times have we seen Hansen Pinch-Hit K? I think Grover has developed his tendency not to use the bench (he said so himself) because he has had such crappy bench players in the past.
plus at this point he is for the most part seeing if his regulars can hit in the situation…
Alright, 8 to go for Ichiro. Man, they should have given him a stolen base. How cheap of the scorer. Well, Reed gets the goat today as he was the only regular without a hit. Goodnight ya’ll.
How can they give him a steal? It’s classic indifference.
obviously, the official scorer is indifferent as well….
We’re all indifferent at this point.
Heh. The postgame show is talking about how much value Meche has- how he shouldn’t be in the bullpen, how the M’s have to get something back for him, how he’ll be pretty cheap next year.
It’s ingots of comedy gold, folks…
weatherwars.info….i just read a fiction book about this. that site is just a bunch of b.s.
Yes you are.
I enjoyed a nice 9% last Felix Day.
(okay, I had four of them)
eponymous coward said: “Heh. The postgame show is talking about how much value Meche has- how he shouldn’t be in the bullpen, how the M’s have to get something back for him, how he’ll be pretty cheap next year.”
well, to be accurate, that was ‘value’ in context– they were talking about Meche’s relative value as the Ms don’t have pitching, don’t have a lot coming up to fill the rotation, and aren’t likely to get much pitching out there this off-season. What is left?
“am I right remembering that Canadian beer is still stronger than US beer?”
That’s a ridiculous myth that really needs to be debunked.
Kokanee: 5%
Labatts: 5%
Molson Canadian: 5%
Bud: 5%
Coors: 5%
Miller High Life: 5%
See a trend?
If you want to get even sillier about this, you’ll be hard pressed to find Canadian micros (outside of Quebec) that go over the 6% threshold. What you all could say is that Canadian macros are the same strength (no more, no less) than American macros. Canadian micros, on the other hand, tend to be lower in alcohol than American micros. This is a rough generalization and could be refuted with some specific examples, but those examples would be few and far between. Canadian craft beers tend to be more English in character than American craft beers, hence the lower ABV.
This myth stems from various ABV/ABW caps that various states had implemented post-Prohibition. It’s simply not true any more.
well, dang.
I loves me my beer, and that’s one of those things I hear repeatedly that simply needs to be refuted. That said, it isn’t as though 6%+ beers don’t exist in Canada, they simply aren’t as prevalent as they are down here. Hell, my local brewpub has three regular 9%+ beers on tap at all times.
The alcohol contents of American mainstream beers have gone up in recent years. Most light beers are 4.2 and regular beers — Bud and MGD, say, are 5.0. Henry Weinhards is 4.5. Busch is 4.6.
American massmarket beers have just caught up with Canadian beers.
As far as microbrews, there are relatively few US beers at over 6%. I don’t think it’s accurate to say that US microbrews are stronger than Canadian.
There’s a very incomplete list at
http://www.realbeer.com/edu/health/calories.php
“Homer no function beer well without”
“The alcohol contents of American mainstream beers have gone up in recent years. Most light beers are 4.2 and regular beers  Bud and MGD, say, are 5.0. Henry Weinhards is 4.5. Busch is 4.6.”
This is news to me. I’d like to see that backed up with anything other than anecdotes. From all the history I’ve ever read, American macro brewers have consistently been bringing their beers DOWN in ABV post-repeal, rather than up.
“As far as microbrews, there are relatively few US beers at over 6%. I don’t think it’s accurate to say that US microbrews are stronger than Canadian.”
I didn’t say that. I said you’d be hard-pressed. There are breweries such as Unibroue, Brasserie Dieu du Ciel and St. Arnolds that brew very strong English style beers (such as stouts, imperial stouts and barleywines) or Belgian style ales that typically start at 7% and only go up. And then you run into breweries such as those in BC that typically produce beers that roughly stay in the 5%-6% category. Some examples:
Crannog (but damn, that Back Hand of God Stout is delicious)
Granville Island
Lighthouse
Mt. Begbie
Nelson
Phillips
Tree
Vancouver Island
There are also breweries like Storm, but their beers are relatively difficult to find as they don’t fit the typical mold of Canadian micros. Again, check their beer profiles against the others posted above. They are staking out rarified territory in BC. That said, it isn’t as though Canadian brewers don’t try to push the envelope, it simply appears that their efforts aren’t generally met with favor by the Canadian drinking public. This is a very sweeping generalization, I realize, but I can only go on the evidence that I see every time I’m in Canada.
These are cherry picked only in that these are breweries that I have tried, AND have their ABV listed on this website. This isn’t an indictment of Canadian breweries, it’s circumstantial evidence that Canadian beer tastes do not tend towards stronger beers. The American craft beer market is the only segment of the beer industry that has shown growth in the past two years (7% each year). Each other segment (imports and macros) has either held steady or declined.
Random samplings of WA micros:
Elysian
Port Townsend
Silver City
I have to apologize for the dearth of listings, here, but the amount of beers with ABV listed is rather sparse. The point I’m trying to make is simply that “Big Beer” is a very vibrant segment of the micro market in the States right now. I haven’t seen that in the Canadian market yet. I also have a very difficult time believing the assertion you made that American beers are raising their alcohol levels to catch up to Canadian beers. I think that’s bushwah. A macro lager is a macro lager, and it’s actually a style that’s adhered to fairly strictly by most breweries.
American Macro Lager
Now, if you can back that up with citations, I’ll believe it. But I’ve done a lot of historical research on the American beer industry, and I’ve never seen anything to support that assertion.
And for the record, it isn’t that I don’t like Canadian micros. I certainly do. I just take great offense to the blanket statement that “Canadian beer is stronger than American beer.” It’s simply not true.