Campillo outrighted
DMZ · October 13, 2005 at 2:34 pm · Filed Under Mariners
Minor, slightly odd move: Campillo, who had elbow surgery in September, was activated from the DL and outrighted to Tacoma today. This clears a spot on the 40-man. MLB.com, elsewhere.
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Why odd?
Two questions.
1. When will Campillo likely next be available to pitch?
2. Does this expose him to the Rule 5 draft?
1. After the All-Star break (at earliest)
2. No, he should be ours for six years.
This is the right move. He won’t be of much help until after the break and his roster spot is better used in the earlier part of the year on other young dudes getting a look.
After the all-star break? Jesus, what happened to his arm? Did his elbow just explode?
After the all star break? So soon? Thought he needed Tommy John surgery, which means 18 months, at a minimum….
TJ doesn’t mean 18 months minimum.
Each case is different, but it’s typically 10-18 months.
AJ Burnett came back in less than a year.
So did Foppert, though he’s far from all the way back.
Why is Masao Kida still on the 40 man but Campillo isn’t? Ditto Cha Seung Baek and Ramon Santiago.
Corco’s right! I’m not sure we actually made a bet after that final T-Town game, but we were both wrong in believing Baek would be one of, if not THE, first guys off the 40-man.
Kida, too. What’s the deal with him?
I wasn’t sure if the 6 year thing applied to him because we signed him as a free agent (rather than draft him).
So we just made space on the roster. Maybe Billy wants to use that space for something soon.
#10: Yes, Billy wants to use that space to protect other guys that are more valuable to the organization from the Rule V draft this winter.
Rule 5 draft. Not Rule V.
Sorry, just a pet peeve of mine.
jason
Jason
Surely if people want to use Roman numerals we should just let them.
Yours
CVLM
#2, #10:
Yeah – althought Campilo wouldn’t have been subject to Rule 5, he wouuld would have used up a slot on the 40-man roster. By outrighting him, he won’t be on the 40-man, and one additional player can be protected.
In other news, word on the street is that the Jankees are offering Matsui 3 yeards and 35 million. We better not try to beat that.
I’m sure we won’t even bother. Matsui will probably be a Yankee for life now.
He’s not worth that to us. He’s not worth that period.
As their only competent defensive outfielder, he might be worth that much to them.
We don’t get to try and beat the offer. He’s under their control unless they dont work out an agreement. If so, he hits the waiver wire.
Yeah, but generally you don’t see a full return to effectiveness until at least 18 months…I wouldn’t expect to see him until 2007 (and pushing Soriano this year isn’t the brightest move in the world, given the Mariner history of arm trouble)
Colm, I don’t think we want anyone to start posting about players who hit .CCLXXX/.CCCXL/.CDXX.
and since Matsui reportedly has said he wants to be a Yankee for a decade (as he was a Giant) as long as their offer isn’t pitiful, he’s probably there…
Well, a more precise answer would have been: He’ll be back in AAA after the All-Star break. Being a change-up type pitcher, he’ll probably take awhile to regain his form (if he regains it); so 2007 is probably correct for seeing him in a Mariners uniform.
Well, Jason, how ’bout we all jus’ come to a fair compromise and write it out as the Rule Five Draft? Yeah, I thought so . . .
Anyhow, that notwithstanding, the following guys on the Seattle Mariners 40-man roster ought to — along with Jorge Campillo, Miguel Ojeda (who, amazingly enough, was claimed by the Colorado Rockies), Justin Leone, and Jamie Bubela — be waived and subsequently designated for assignment: Cha-Seung Baek, Ryan Franklin, Jeff Harris, Masao Kida, Gil Meche, Matt Thornton, Willie Bloomquist, Greg Dobbs, Mike Morse, Ramon Santiago, and Jamal Strong.
In addition, the following guys should not have their team options exercised: Eddie Guardado (in turn, hopefully, he’d decline his player option), Shigetoshi Hasegawa, Wiki Gonzalez, and Calvin Reese.
Lastly, the following guys should leave — whether it is to another ballclub or greener pastures (i.e., a retirement home) — as free-agents: Jamie Moyer, Jeff Nelson, Dan Wilson, and Dave Hansen.
The Mariners should hold on to Morse. Best case scenario, they include him in a trade while his stock is artificially high (I still remember Steve Kelley saying he had “30 homer potential.”)
Worst case scenario, he is a decent bench player against left-handed pitchers.
We should also keep Guardado, although hopefully at the price of his option and not ours.
Tom, #15
Never fear, I know EXACTLY what you mean.
“I yust try to hit it hard somewhere.”
Smart move on Campillo. Use his spot on someone who will play in 2006. No other team would/should pay for his rehab. If so, M’s could block.
Yes, keep Guardado. We need his humor on this team…and his competitiveness…and his mad skills.
Imagine if Campillo and Mads were healthy.. the M’s wouldn’t be in such a mess. They wouldn’t have to think about Moyer at all (Campillo could replace him) and the M’s could afford long-term care for Meche at Bellvue (Mads could replace Meche) and you’d really just need to focus of getting one rotation guy. The last spot could be fought over by some Tacoma guy. And the money saved could be used to either A: improve the offense and bench or B: lower beer prices at the park. I’m for B.
#23, the M’s ought to hold onto Thornton at this point. Heck, they’ve kept him this long, and they aren’t going to be competitive in 2006 anyway, so they might as well see if they can teach him to throw strikes before 2007.
Morse and Strong are useful reserves. They have to keep Wiki because A: They have to pay him anyway and B: He’s probably their best hitting catcher. Dobbs can hit, better than Leone – he’s younger too; he’ll get picked up by someone else. Guardado should be kept at his option. As for the rest, see ya in the funny papers.
23. I got another idea: let’s honor Felix and call it the Draft Regla Cinco.
28. Didn’t we say that in the last offseason?
Cut Thornton loose and let him give up four pitch walks for the Royals or Pirates.