Ichiro wins Gold Glove again
DMZ · November 1, 2005 at 5:04 pm · Filed Under Mariners
MLB.com, others.
Ichiro is joined on the AL all-defensive team this year by three AL West colleagues — starting pitcher Kenny Rogers and first baseman Mark Teixeira of the Rangers and third baseman Eric Chavez of the Athletics — along with catcher Jason Varitek (Red Sox), second baseman Orlando Hudson (Blue Jays), shortstop Derek Jeter (Yankees), outfielder Torii Hunter (Twins) and Vernon Wells (Blue Jays).
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33 Responses to “Ichiro wins Gold Glove again”
Too bad Reed didn’t win it as well.
Good for Ichiro!, but I would’ve loved to see if Jeter would have still recieved the honor if betancourt had been up the whole year…
Ya, Torii Hunter deserved it. He was good at catching grapes in his mouth while healing that broken ankle for over two months.
Jeter winning is the triumph over rep over statistics.
But that’s an old refrain when it comes to the Gold Gloves.
There’s a huge bias in voting towards established players and awards often lag behind performance.
That bias was evident last year when Boone won the gold glove over the vastly superior O-Dog. Hudson actually had a bit of an off year in 2005, and missed some time due to injury, but it looks like they’re making up for 2004.
Derek, you bozo! It’s Standard Time now. Turn the clock on your computer back one hour. 🙂
I’ll go tweak the server. Here at USSM labs, we can’t afford a server that does that automatically.
Congrats to Ichiro. Well-deserved, and the catch he made with his foot pinned to the fence confirms he didn’t get it solely on his offensive performance.
It would’ve been nice for Reed to win in center, but I’m glad the voters took Wells’ perfect fielding percentage into account. No small sample size involved there. The only way I’d claim “popularity contest” is if Damon won and the only way I’d claim “winning on reputation” is if Kotsay got it. As for Hunter, he’s a great player who I probably wouldn’t quibble with either under normal circumstances, but Jake beat me to the punch with his thoughts.
Also, I notice they didn’t choose a leftfielder. Were there no defensive standouts over there?
Also, I notice they didn’t choose a leftfielder. Were there no defensive standouts over there?
They don’t have to pick one; it’s three outfielders. If not for Ichiro, they’d probably go with three centerfielders each season since that’s where the best guys (generally) play.
I do not know if YuBet will win the award next year, but I am confident that the M’s will have the best fielding SS in the junior circuit.
And I do wish that the GG in the outfield were handed out by LF, RF, and CF. Ichiro and Wells still would have won (RF and CF).
I can’t even think of a left fielder worthy. Maybe Jacque Jones?
I’d just assume it be 3 OFs in general. I think Torii Hunter’s reputation gives him so much credit it’s ridiculous.
11. Thanks for clarifying; I really didn’t know that before. Of course that probably would eliminate the potential for a voter to pick Manny for a GG. The man can rake, but if not for Ortiz’ own fielding issues, he should probably be a DH at this point.
YuBet he’ll win multiple GG’s – and soon. Hope Derek enjoys his last-ever gold lame-tanned leather Rawlings with affixed walnut base…
I’m glad Ichiro won too. What I don’t get is why people (including some sports writers, and I think Hargrove) have complained about his defense. Maybe they will stop complaining now. And any truth to the rumor that the M’s are taking offers for Ichiro?
You should start a pool on USSM for how many years it will take of being the best Defensive SS in baseball before Yu-Bet wins a GG
Stop posting that stupid Ichiro article. I’ve deleted it 50 times for a reason.
#18-20
A. gee, and I thought it was all Hargrove’s fault, remember that Philly columnist? 🙂 “It is possible, even at this late date, that one more manager might get the axe. Seattle’s Mike Hargrove is not completely off the hot seat and the reason, apparently, is a strained relationship with Ichiro Suzuki.”
B. so, why should Dave Del Grande in the Bay Area be a source of Ichiro knowledge? Does Del Grande do much other than cover the Warriors?
C. and re: the Seattle media ignoring the issue, I guess he missed Finny’s “Ichiro is sad” article… 🙂
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re: Gold Gloves, there was a stat on the radio update that the Ms have a 19 year run of GG winners….
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Tim Kurkjian just announced the Ms have no chance at AJ, and might have to settle for Millwood, whom he seems to consider a lowly 2nd 🙂
dang, that was a smiley post. And I haven’t even had a drink.
Well, if Tim Kurkjian announced it, then it must be so. And I would be happy if the M’s picked up Millwood.
And I would guess that YuBet will not win the award next year, even though he will most likely be the best defensive SS. GG are like pro-bowl awards to NFL offensive lineman. They have to be the best for a few years, not get elected, begin the downside of their career, and then get elected by reputation.
I had been focusing on the Sonics just enough to take my mind off of how bad the Mariners stunk this year – then this award came along and reminded me of one of the only bright spots from an awful season.
So congrats to Ichiro, and thanks for being one of the guys on the M’s who’s always fun to watch. Even on one of the worst baseball teams I’ve seen in a very long time, and hope to never see the likes of again. Although next year I probably will, every night at Safeco.
*Sigh*
Any thoughts on how deserving Teixeira is? I didn’t have any idea was in the running for a Gold Glove. Yet, since he overcame the reputation of Erstad early in his career, I have to credit his winning to something. In general, the voters seem to have gotten it right. I know Jeter isn’t a popular pick, but there really weren’t any terrific short stops this year (short of Betancourt). We could argue at the margins (Beltre or Rodriguez over Chavez), but nothing glaring.
Sorry #17, but remember you happy place, remember your happy place. And #18, they said 19 years is the longest streak in the majors beating other teams by at least 4 years. I think that is really impressive. So will Ichiro make it 20 years for the M’s next year? After Ichiro who is next? Can YuBet even be considered if he doesn’t put up good offensive numbers? I mean, that is how, it seems, players get recognized.
Derek Jeter should be ashamed of himself, he should give his gold gloves to Tejada and Uribe immediately, then apologize to all Yankee fans for selfishly caging the greatest defensive SS currently in baseball at thrid, in order to keep his immoble ass and pride in the limelight. What a selfish ass, I’ll give him this: he does make the routine play look spactacular.
Also if last year was a preview of King Felix’s fielding ability he may be a Gold Glover as well.
Also if last year was a preview of King Felix’s fielding ability he may be a Gold Glover as well.
Holy mackeral, yes. Hernandez jumps on those balls like he’s rabid. I wonder if Betancourt’s going to have to talk to him eventually (“Hey, let the ones on your right go by… I’ll get ’em.”)
At least with Felix, we don’t have to worry much about him not pitching well enough to draw attention to his fielding.
It pays for a groundball type pitcher to be a good fielder, as well. You need all the infield leather you can get out there. This would also be an interesting thing to crank through the Voros machine to see if good fielding groundball pitchers have a more pronounced skill at turning balls in play into outs.
22 – Teixeira’s fielding numbers actually were better than Erstad’s across the board (at a cursory glance; I know the HBT had Erstad as the better fielder by one of their measures). But, I think he’s actually a better player all-around, and a pretty darn good first baseman either way, so I’m glad to see him get recognized.
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I was entertained by the note on Philly.com regarding the interesting awarding of a Gold Glove to Bobby Abreu….
Felix is such a groundball pitcher, too, that he creates extra fielding opportunities for himself.
The best defensive play of the year that I personally saw in 2005 was when Felix nearly avoided a beheading with an amazing play on a screaming liner during a day game at Cheney Stadium. He definitely had to the pseduo-Al Hrabosky mound circling for a few minutes afterwards to compose himself, and rightfully so…