Comments on: Dave Fleming http://ussmariner.com/2006/01/15/dave-fleming/ Seattle Mariners and general baseball discussion with David Cameron and Derek Zumsteg Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:17:03 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Jim Thomsen http://ussmariner.com/2006/01/15/dave-fleming/comment-page-1/#comment-86552 Jim Thomsen Thu, 19 Jan 2006 07:49:06 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=3271#comment-86552 Yes ... save Felix, by not pitching him ever. Yes … save Felix, by not pitching him ever.

]]> By: Typical Idiot Fan http://ussmariner.com/2006/01/15/dave-fleming/comment-page-1/#comment-86546 Typical Idiot Fan Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:34:20 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=3271#comment-86546 This is the kind of post I like to see. Or, perhaps one I don't like to see, considering the subject matter. While there still seems to be debate and confusion as to whether the number of innings thrown or the number of pitches thrown (or both) is the greater cause of damage to a pitching arm, the obvious overwork of a pitcher needlessly should be thwarted any chance we get. Thus, SAVE FELIX! This is the kind of post I like to see. Or, perhaps one I don’t like to see, considering the subject matter. While there still seems to be debate and confusion as to whether the number of innings thrown or the number of pitches thrown (or both) is the greater cause of damage to a pitching arm, the obvious overwork of a pitcher needlessly should be thwarted any chance we get.

Thus, SAVE FELIX!

]]> By: Jim Thomsen http://ussmariner.com/2006/01/15/dave-fleming/comment-page-1/#comment-86384 Jim Thomsen Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:21:31 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=3271#comment-86384 #31: Not just Billy Swift, but a very good Mike Jackson and a decent Dave Burba. #31: Not just Billy Swift, but a very good Mike Jackson and a decent Dave Burba.

]]> By: eponymous coward http://ussmariner.com/2006/01/15/dave-fleming/comment-page-1/#comment-86381 eponymous coward Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:00:27 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=3271#comment-86381 <i>The only pleasant things I can remember from that year was that Omar played a good shortstop and Ken Levine was fun to listen to on the radio broadcasts.</i> You forgot Edgar's first batting title. But yeah, that was the year of us trading Billy Swift for Kevin Mitchell. Uggggh. Hard to believe a team with: Edgar Griffey RJ Buhner Tino Nelson collectively being pretty decent and getting some support from Fleming and even Mitchell (when healthy) almost lost 100 games. It's because the bullpen sucked, Reynolds/O'Brien/Cotto/Briley/Parrish/Valle/ sucked life out of the offense (collective OBP: around .300 from 4 limeup positions), and the rotation behind RJ and Fleming was terrible (Hanson had an awful year at #3, and 4 and 5 were complete garbage between DeLucia and Random AAA Starter Of The Week). The only pleasant things I can remember from that year was that Omar played a good shortstop and Ken Levine was fun to listen to on the radio broadcasts.

You forgot Edgar’s first batting title.

But yeah, that was the year of us trading Billy Swift for Kevin Mitchell. Uggggh. Hard to believe a team with:

Edgar
Griffey
RJ
Buhner
Tino
Nelson

collectively being pretty decent and getting some support from Fleming and even Mitchell (when healthy) almost lost 100 games. It’s because the bullpen sucked, Reynolds/O’Brien/Cotto/Briley/Parrish/Valle/ sucked life out of the offense (collective OBP: around .300 from 4 limeup positions), and the rotation behind RJ and Fleming was terrible (Hanson had an awful year at #3, and 4 and 5 were complete garbage between DeLucia and Random AAA Starter Of The Week).

]]> By: nms http://ussmariner.com/2006/01/15/dave-fleming/comment-page-1/#comment-86368 nms Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:57:09 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=3271#comment-86368 #8, do you know the whole Pat Lennon story? #8,
do you know the whole Pat Lennon story?

]]> By: JMHawkins http://ussmariner.com/2006/01/15/dave-fleming/comment-page-1/#comment-86360 JMHawkins Tue, 17 Jan 2006 03:13:04 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=3271#comment-86360 How often do ML pitchers get MRIs? I get the impression it only happens when there's something obviously wrong with them. Which seems a bit late for preventative measures. If I was a GM, I think I would be looking very hard at what it would take to have at least every pitcher on the ML roster, maybe every pitcher in AA or above, go in for an MRI on their throwing arm once every, say, 100 innings. Wouldn't that help detect small injuries (that maybe might just heal with some rest) before they became big, career-threatening surgeries? Or am I missing something? How often do ML pitchers get MRIs? I get the impression it only happens when there’s something obviously wrong with them. Which seems a bit late for preventative measures.

If I was a GM, I think I would be looking very hard at what it would take to have at least every pitcher on the ML roster, maybe every pitcher in AA or above, go in for an MRI on their throwing arm once every, say, 100 innings.

Wouldn’t that help detect small injuries (that maybe might just heal with some rest) before they became big, career-threatening surgeries?

Or am I missing something?

]]> By: dan@jackson http://ussmariner.com/2006/01/15/dave-fleming/comment-page-1/#comment-86356 dan@jackson Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:07:45 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=3271#comment-86356 I'd forgotten that Fleming had a very good year in '92, a season that should be forgotten.The only pleasant things I can remember from that year was that Omar played a good shortstop and Ken Levine was fun to listen to on the radio broadcasts. I’d forgotten that Fleming had a very good year in ‘92, a season that should be forgotten.The only pleasant things I can remember from that year was that Omar played a good shortstop and Ken Levine was fun to listen to on the radio broadcasts.

]]> By: nms http://ussmariner.com/2006/01/15/dave-fleming/comment-page-1/#comment-86340 nms Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:13:05 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=3271#comment-86340 As I recall Derek Lilliquist and Cris Carpenter (who also punted for UGA), who were the co-aces of the Georgia team that beat Washington State to win it all in Omaha, also had similar patterns of decline like Fleming As I recall Derek Lilliquist and Cris Carpenter (who also punted for UGA), who were the co-aces of the Georgia team that beat Washington State to win it all in Omaha, also had similar patterns of decline like Fleming

]]> By: terry http://ussmariner.com/2006/01/15/dave-fleming/comment-page-1/#comment-86332 terry Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:25:22 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=3271#comment-86332 Are you trying to say Flemings ERA wasnt 3.39 in 1992? :-P Are you trying to say Flemings ERA wasnt 3.39 in 1992? :-P

]]> By: Baseline http://ussmariner.com/2006/01/15/dave-fleming/comment-page-1/#comment-86331 Baseline Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:20:20 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=3271#comment-86331 Very good write up on Flemming! I love stuff like this. Very good write up on Flemming! I love stuff like this.

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