Best Mariner ever deathmatch kick-off

DMZ · March 4, 2006 at 4:44 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Top ten advance to actual elimination polling. Feel free to debate criteria, make a case, stump for a guy, or suggest sadly overlooked alternates. This list was based on leaders in counting stats and outstanding season achievements (so Charlton’s on there as the saves leader). There’s no criteria by design: if you want to vote for Dan Wilson because you think he best exemplifies the qualities you want to see in a Mariner, so be it. If you want to vote for Harold Reynolds because he’s the sharpest-dressed, that’s fine too. I’m intersted to see how this sorts out.

You can vote for as many players as you want in this first round


Let the debate begin!

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55 Responses to “Best Mariner ever deathmatch kick-off”

  1. Mat on March 6th, 2006 12:34 am

    “Hans Wagner led the league in slugging SIX TIMES. He led the league in OPS EIGHT times.”

    From 1900 to 1920, the population of the US went from 76 million to 106 million people. Back then, only white guys were allowed to play. Now, the population of the US is about 295 million, and not only can Americans of all backgrounds play in MLB, but there are significant contingents of players from the Dominican Republic, Venezuela, Cuba, Japan, etc. Also, during most of Wagner’s career, from what I can tell, the NL only had 8 teams. That means he had about 57% as many players to beat out to lead the league in something.

    So, basically, back in Wagner’s day it was easier to lead the league in something. Wagner’s still great, but I think looking at the leaderboards from way back when will mislead you as to exactly how great he was when you’re comparing him to players of today.

  2. Ralph Malph on March 6th, 2006 11:02 am

    Who is Hans Wagner? Is he any relation to Thai Cobb?

  3. Triumph on March 6th, 2006 11:11 am

    Give me a club of 8 Rich Amarals and I’ll show you the AL pennant.

  4. scraps on March 6th, 2006 1:32 pm

    I’m torn between Bill Stein and Larry Milbourne.

  5. natebracy on March 7th, 2006 2:52 pm

    As has been mentioned, there shouldn’t be too many candidates for the best Mariner ever. Even Alvin Davis, our first Mariner to win a league award (ROY) doesn’t compare favorably to Edgar, Griffey, RJ, or A-Rod.

    Even though Edgar has a league award named after him, since he is the only one of that group who is retired, it doesn’t really separate him from the group. I think he falls just short. Pitchers are a different animal, so I’d not consider RJ (though he wins most valuable pitcher without debate). Griffey and A-Rod are really close, with Griffey getting more weight for length of service. I think I have to go with Alex to partially makeup for when A-Rod got edged out of the MVP in part because both Seattle writers voted for Griffey (Alex overplayed the humble part, deferring to Griffey as the better player.).

    Since a worst ever is coming, can you break this (and that one) out by position? or manager, GM, owner?

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