M’s claim Guillermo Quiroz to backup
DMZ · March 31, 2006 at 12:53 pm · Filed Under Mariners
Confirmation links to follow.
Guillermo Quiroz got pushed out in the Blue Jays catcher battle, and the M’s picked him up, presumably to back up while Rivera seasons in the minors. Quiroz is 24, right-handed, and hasn’t hit well since 2003, when he put up a stellar season in AA. Since then he’s bounced between levels and hasn’t gotten consistent playing time.
Quiroz, despite having a couple poor seasons, is a much better bet to hit a little than Rivera, and has a lot more potential to turn into something really interesting — though with Johjima and Clement, the M’s don’t have a lot of playing time to offer.
Nice little move.
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I’m a Midre Cummings fan. He never got a chance.
What D & D said in aggregated in #s 10 and 11 on Rivera. The org loses nothing by him polishing his D further in Tacoma. Assuming Quiroz hits at all, he’s the better bet. Furthermore, as shown on a slightly larger scale in the Torrealba deal, catchers are a fungible commodity. The Ms now have real depth at the position on the organizational roster—unlike last year’s Oh-no-Olivothon. The bodies will sort themselves out over the next year and a half, and the Ms may be able to flip the least best options for something at the end of that time.
. . . Who’s making these spare parts deals, Bavasi, Fontaine, both in a mind-meld, or someone else? They’re nice little moves as said, and go some little ways to make up for the loss of draft picks to free agent signings a few years back in the development cycle which has worked a lacune in organizational depth up to the AAA-25 man level.
Sorry to see Luis el Dodger go, but yeah, he wasn’t ready. Not a bad gamble, but this is how most such small tater drafts end so no surprise. Jake Woods; wow, it’s going to be an _interesting_ experience to see him on the mound at Safeco. After all the years of ‘Saturnine Lou’ glaring at any and every non-veteran pitcher as a presumed failure until proven otherwise, and the general depth and quality of Gillick’s bullpens, for the Ms to break camp with _any_ role given to a no-name, spring tryout guy all but takes me back to the nightmare that was 80s baseball in Sea-town, an adventure in competitive sports of a kind now all but forgotten hereabouts.
OK, it sounds like a nice little move in and of itself, but now there’s a 40-man roster issue. And how much time did the FO spend to come up with this guy? It looks like he’s not significantly better than Rivera, and we already had a #3 guy in Miller, not to mention Clement in the wings. So maybe he shows up with something better to offer than Rene, but I’d prefer that they were watching every potential bullpen arm that might get waived, or figuring out what they’d do if, say, Heep Seop Choi came along.
Thingray:
On the topic of catchers, I just purchased my first tickets of the year today, for Dan Wilson Night. Anybody ever sit in section 135? It looks like a good spot on the seating chart..
Awesome seats. You’re right there with the action; you’re a noodle-arm’s stone’s throw from home plate looking down the RF line. I had a nice boss who got me box seats for a game last year, and I could nearly read Jamie Moyer’s lips while he bitched at the umpire about a pitch call (I think he said, ‘Gialuca Pagliuca’). If you’re every wondering about seats and the vantage point, here’s a reference.
I’ll be at Dan Wilson Night as well, as well as Felix’s season debut next Friday and Sunday’s game… albeit in the CF bleachers, but I love those seats so huzzah. I went and got my tickets today after work. Can’t wait!
Quiroz in 2002 minor league at bats has 471 hits (.235 avg). That’s not particularly impressive. What is impressive is that of those 471 hits, 187 of them are XBH (39.7%). So he has power. He also has a comfortable 2.28 strikeout to walk ratio. His tendencies seem to indicate he’s a power hitter with a decent eye, so something else is missing that the stats don’t tell.
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I noticed that the D-Backs are desperately trying to flip Koyie Hill because he’s out of options. I would think that Hill would be a better choice as a backup catcher than Quiroz, though I’m guessing they signed Quiroz for his experience more than his bat.
And because he was free rather than costing a player in return. Oh and that Koyie Hill blows serious nuts. I’d rather have Miguel Olivo circa 2004.
speaking of Blue-Jay cast-offs, they just DFA’d Vince Perkins, their number 10 prospect on baseball americas list. Perkins, 24, “has a heavy 92-96 MPH fastball and a decent mid 80’s slider” and pitched in AA last year. He was DFA’d to make room on the 40-man for Brian Tallet, a journeyman left-handed reliever.
Might be a pretty good pickup.
A link to his stats.
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/P/vince-perkins.shtml
“Majority” of games (See # 26)- Anyone, How often is Johjima expected to catch? Two out of three games? Three out of four? What?
BTW (See # 25), another good MLB/mlb stat site is the “Player Index” of the Toronto Star’s WAYMORE SPORTS: http://tinyurl.com/ppl85
In addition to giving the MLB/mlb stats of every player who played MLB this year or last, it also gives the stats of any minor leaguer that was involved in a trade of a major-leaguer.
And it gives lots of miscellaneous information about the player–and it’s as up-to-date as one could wish. (“The ink on the transaction is hardly dry…”)
[NOTE: This site was laid on the Mariner Newsgroup by Dave Cameron.]
The Mariners keep Jeff Harris and Jake Woods.
From the Associated Press:
“The Seattle Mariners trimmed their active roster to the 25-man limit Saturday night, optioning Rene Rivera to Triple-A Tacoma and keeping newly acquired Guillermo Quiroz to be their backup catcher behind Kenji Johjima.
The Mariners claimed the 24-year-old Quiroz off waivers from Toronto on Friday.
Seattle optioned right-hander Emiliano Fruto to Tacoma, purchased the contract of infielder Roberto Petagine from Tacoma, placed outfielder Chris Snelling on the 15-day disabled list and designated Marcos Carvajal for assignment.
Outfielder Matt Lawton, who tested positive for steroids while with the New York Yankees last September, starts his 10-day suspension Sunday.
WAYMORE (or, at least, one of the many other sites that uses that database) is where the Snelling on the 60-day DL listing came from; he is not, he’s on the 15 day. They’re good, but do lag a little on delivery of info and have the occasional error (see the above).
On another note, Carvajal has been DFA’d, per Rotoworld.
Ah, hello post 62, sorry.
Press release with Carvajal’s DFA…
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Doesn’t make a lot of sense.
I wonder how big a risk there is of Carvajal being claimed?
I’m not sure if I understand roster maneuvers correctly, but can they pull him back and put him on the roster again if he gets claimed? They might have reopened a spot by then with Lawton suspended, Snelling on the 60-day, or maybe a trade. So it might be a low-risk way of seeing if they can open up a 40-man slot, because they know already that he’s not going to see the majors this year.
If this isn’t the case and they lose him, then I’m not too thrilled about giving Torrealba away for nothing.
My Last-Day-of-Roster-Cuts All Stars:
C: Rob Bowen
1B: Bobby Kielty
2B; Frank Menechino
SS: Brandon Phillips
3B: Kevin Orie
RF: Brian Buchanan
CF: Todd Linden
LF: Jason Dubois/Kevin Frandsen
DH: Russell Branyan
SPs: Tyler Yates, Kevin Correia, Edwin Jackson, Vince Perkins, John Halama
67, based on my limited understanding of the inane waiver rules, yes, Carvajal’s waiver is revocable since he still has options left. Not sure why they picked him since it seems plausible they’d want him back on the team at some point this year, but this does appear to be an attempt to clear 40 man space w/o risking the loss of a player.
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Oh, wait … I’ll sub in Justin Leone at third and Eric Valent in left.
And Jason Davis instead of John Halama.
Michael Restovich would be my utility guy. Runelvys Hernandez would be the swingman.
It appears they’re playing Doyle on the 15 day DL instead of the 60 day. Before you say WTF, it’s likely the M’s think he’ll be ready before June and that’s why he’s on the 15 rather than the 60. If he’s on the 60, they have to wait two months to activate him even if he’s ready before then.
As for Carvajal, they may be planning on swinging a trade with him and are still working out the particulars, hence the DFA.
But Snelling hasn’t played a game… Isn’t it possible to put him on the 60-day retro to March?
#75: Isn’t it possible to put him on the 60-day retro to March?
There is no DL until the end of ST. So if he goes on the 60-day DL, the 60 days has to start now.
That’s not true. The Brewers put Sheets on the 15-Day retroactive to the 24th.