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	<title>Comments on: If they don&#8217;t win it&#8217;s the saaaaaaaaaaame&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: skyking162 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tie Goes to the Closer</title>
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		<dc:creator>skyking162 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tie Goes to the Closer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 14:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Over the past two days, two of my favorite baseball blogs have pointed out managers failing to use their closers in ninth inning ties. First, Eddie Guardado doesn&#8217;t make an appearance in the top of the ninth at home against the Angels, and then Mariano Rivera&#8217;s passed over in favor of Scott Proctor in the bottom of the ninth at Oakland. (To be fair, Joe Torre usually does pitch Rivera in tie games.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Over the past two days, two of my favorite baseball blogs have pointed out managers failing to use their closers in ninth inning ties. First, Eddie Guardado doesn&#8217;t make an appearance in the top of the ninth at home against the Angels, and then Mariano Rivera&#8217;s passed over in favor of Scott Proctor in the bottom of the ninth at Oakland. (To be fair, Joe Torre usually does pitch Rivera in tie games.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: leetinsleyfanclub</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/03/if-they-dont-win-its-the-saaaaaaaaaaame/comment-page-1/#comment-91822</link>
		<dc:creator>leetinsleyfanclub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 21:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey drewbie:

Thanks for the laugh.  One of the best heckles I have heard, especially at Safeco.  Delivered at just the right time with just the right amount of biting sarcasm in your voice. You had our whole section in stitches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey drewbie:</p>
<p>Thanks for the laugh.  One of the best heckles I have heard, especially at Safeco.  Delivered at just the right time with just the right amount of biting sarcasm in your voice. You had our whole section in stitches.</p>
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		<title>By: hans</title>
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		<dc:creator>hans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 20:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was I the only one disappointed when Hargrove let Betancourt bat with only one out and the bases loaded?  I was jumping up and down wishing he would bring in someone that can draw a walk and handle the bat (i.e. Petagine) who would give us a much better chance at bringing in a run and, better yet, leading to a big inning.  Willie was available to cover short for the last few innings.  It seems to me that the difference in D between Willie and Betancourt for 3 innings is not as great in the difference between Petagine and Betancourt in ability to draw a walk or hit the ball well for that critical at bat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was I the only one disappointed when Hargrove let Betancourt bat with only one out and the bases loaded?  I was jumping up and down wishing he would bring in someone that can draw a walk and handle the bat (i.e. Petagine) who would give us a much better chance at bringing in a run and, better yet, leading to a big inning.  Willie was available to cover short for the last few innings.  It seems to me that the difference in D between Willie and Betancourt for 3 innings is not as great in the difference between Petagine and Betancourt in ability to draw a walk or hit the ball well for that critical at bat.</p>
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		<title>By: fanoliv</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/03/if-they-dont-win-its-the-saaaaaaaaaaame/comment-page-1/#comment-91794</link>
		<dc:creator>fanoliv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 20:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How long does Hargrove&#039;s contract lasts for? At least Bavasi&#039;s doing some good things with the farm. What exactly has Hargrove done good since he&#039;s been here? Come to think of it, he hasn&#039;t had a winning season in how long?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long does Hargrove&#8217;s contract lasts for? At least Bavasi&#8217;s doing some good things with the farm. What exactly has Hargrove done good since he&#8217;s been here? Come to think of it, he hasn&#8217;t had a winning season in how long?</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/03/if-they-dont-win-its-the-saaaaaaaaaaame/comment-page-1/#comment-91748</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 18:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was inspired heckling.  I salute you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was inspired heckling.  I salute you.</p>
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		<title>By: drewbie</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/03/if-they-dont-win-its-the-saaaaaaaaaaame/comment-page-1/#comment-91741</link>
		<dc:creator>drewbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 17:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;39. &quot;...was that the gay section?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Ha, that was me, 3rd baseline, row 7.
My wife thought it was funny, my nieghboors did not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>39. &#8220;&#8230;was that the gay section?&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Ha, that was me, 3rd baseline, row 7.<br />
My wife thought it was funny, my nieghboors did not.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/03/if-they-dont-win-its-the-saaaaaaaaaaame/comment-page-1/#comment-91733</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 16:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Petagine&#039;s HR is going to make Grover look smart, completely obscuring his lousy bullpen management.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Petagine&#8217;s HR is going to make Grover look smart, completely obscuring his lousy bullpen management.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Rust</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/03/if-they-dont-win-its-the-saaaaaaaaaaame/comment-page-1/#comment-91724</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Rust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 16:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps Hargrove would understand that burning your closer in a tie game is not that much different than burning your slick-fielding shortstop for a pinch hitter.  It&#039;s even more worthwhile knowing you&#039;ve got the decent lefty PH to bring in against K-Rod.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps Hargrove would understand that burning your closer in a tie game is not that much different than burning your slick-fielding shortstop for a pinch hitter.  It&#8217;s even more worthwhile knowing you&#8217;ve got the decent lefty PH to bring in against K-Rod.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/03/if-they-dont-win-its-the-saaaaaaaaaaame/comment-page-1/#comment-91722</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 15:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ROFL - that&#039;s a great heckle.

I&#039;d fire Grover for his bullpen management alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ROFL &#8211; that&#8217;s a great heckle.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d fire Grover for his bullpen management alone.</p>
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		<title>By: leetinsleyfanclub</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/03/if-they-dont-win-its-the-saaaaaaaaaaame/comment-page-1/#comment-91719</link>
		<dc:creator>leetinsleyfanclub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 15:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A funny from yesterday&#039;s game:  After Crazy Carl flung the bat into the stands after swinging and missing on his first swing as a Mariner, a heckler yelled &quot;was that the gay section?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A funny from yesterday&#8217;s game:  After Crazy Carl flung the bat into the stands after swinging and missing on his first swing as a Mariner, a heckler yelled &#8220;was that the gay section?&#8221;</p>
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