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	<title>Comments on: Worst Opening Night crowd in over ten years</title>
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		<title>By: dw</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/03/worst-opening-night-crowd-in-over-ten-years/comment-page-2/#comment-91898</link>
		<dc:creator>dw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 01:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;WINNER! Greatest disparity between number of posts and worth of commentary.&lt;/em&gt;

Think of it as a Turn Back The Clock thread, back to the days of the Usenet and low signal-to-noise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>WINNER! Greatest disparity between number of posts and worth of commentary.</em></p>
<p>Think of it as a Turn Back The Clock thread, back to the days of the Usenet and low signal-to-noise.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave in Palo Alto</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/03/worst-opening-night-crowd-in-over-ten-years/comment-page-2/#comment-91874</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave in Palo Alto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 00:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I.e., commentary contained within the posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I.e., commentary contained within the posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave in Palo Alto</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/03/worst-opening-night-crowd-in-over-ten-years/comment-page-2/#comment-91873</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave in Palo Alto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 00:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WINNER!  Greatest disparity between number of posts and worth of commentary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WINNER!  Greatest disparity between number of posts and worth of commentary.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/03/worst-opening-night-crowd-in-over-ten-years/comment-page-2/#comment-91859</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 23:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess that would be &quot;deader than normal&quot;, eh, zzyzx?  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess that would be &#8220;deader than normal&#8221;, eh, zzyzx?  <img src='http://ussmariner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: zzyzx</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/03/worst-opening-night-crowd-in-over-ten-years/comment-page-2/#comment-91830</link>
		<dc:creator>zzyzx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 21:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karen - I&#039;ve attended quite a few M&#039;s games over the years including every opening day since 96.   The crowd was dead.

DMZ - did you influence the Bugs Bunny clip being shown on the DiamondVisiony thing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karen &#8211; I&#8217;ve attended quite a few M&#8217;s games over the years including every opening day since 96.   The crowd was dead.</p>
<p>DMZ &#8211; did you influence the Bugs Bunny clip being shown on the DiamondVisiony thing?</p>
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		<title>By: tangotiger</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/03/worst-opening-night-crowd-in-over-ten-years/comment-page-2/#comment-91828</link>
		<dc:creator>tangotiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 21:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evan, it was poorly presented by Derek and poorly interpreted by some of us.

Derek is a gifted writer, and I (as I&#039;m sure many others did) took his presentation (the headline, the bolding, etc) with the lack of commentary as a commentary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evan, it was poorly presented by Derek and poorly interpreted by some of us.</p>
<p>Derek is a gifted writer, and I (as I&#8217;m sure many others did) took his presentation (the headline, the bolding, etc) with the lack of commentary as a commentary.</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
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		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 21:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Iâ€™m hoping this is an omen. Iâ€™ve been saying for the last several years, as long as Mâ€™s fans turn out in droves for a lousy team, the owners will save money and give them a lousy team. (See Cubs, Chicago.) If attendance finally crashes this year, maybe ownership will get the message and start recruiting better players.&lt;/em&gt; 

that is two separate issues. They spend money, they don&#039;t always spend money on &#039;better players&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Iâ€™m hoping this is an omen. Iâ€™ve been saying for the last several years, as long as Mâ€™s fans turn out in droves for a lousy team, the owners will save money and give them a lousy team. (See Cubs, Chicago.) If attendance finally crashes this year, maybe ownership will get the message and start recruiting better players.</em> </p>
<p>that is two separate issues. They spend money, they don&#8217;t always spend money on &#8216;better players&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: MedicineHat</title>
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		<dc:creator>MedicineHat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 21:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boycott afte one game? No, I didn&#039;t say that, or infer it....lol. What I said was, one of the onyl ways fans have to show their displeasure of the product is not to go. Some fans show it after one game, I guess. Some after 5 years, in the case of the Cubs, they don&#039;t show it. They keep accepting a bad product. Probably for the reasons you mention....good atmosphere and entertainment. Me, I&#039;m not entertained by bad baseball. That&#039;s what the Mariners have given us over the past year, year to two years. I&#039;ll go when Felix pitches to see good pitching. I&#039;ll go when the good clubs come to town to see good baseball. I won&#039;t go to most games, though. Not until the product they put on the field on a day to day basis improves to &quot;playoff contention caliber.&quot; 
The Mariners are not playoff contention caliber...and I didn&#039;t just figure that out after one game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boycott afte one game? No, I didn&#8217;t say that, or infer it&#8230;.lol. What I said was, one of the onyl ways fans have to show their displeasure of the product is not to go. Some fans show it after one game, I guess. Some after 5 years, in the case of the Cubs, they don&#8217;t show it. They keep accepting a bad product. Probably for the reasons you mention&#8230;.good atmosphere and entertainment. Me, I&#8217;m not entertained by bad baseball. That&#8217;s what the Mariners have given us over the past year, year to two years. I&#8217;ll go when Felix pitches to see good pitching. I&#8217;ll go when the good clubs come to town to see good baseball. I won&#8217;t go to most games, though. Not until the product they put on the field on a day to day basis improves to &#8220;playoff contention caliber.&#8221;<br />
The Mariners are not playoff contention caliber&#8230;and I didn&#8217;t just figure that out after one game.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 20:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Factual does not mean clear.&lt;/i&gt;

No more than unclear means disingenuous.

If I say that the attendance was the worst in 10 years, that&#039;s all I&#039;ve said.  I&#039;ve told you nothing about the size of the variance or the significance of the reduction.

Inference is always the fault of the inferrer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Factual does not mean clear.</i></p>
<p>No more than unclear means disingenuous.</p>
<p>If I say that the attendance was the worst in 10 years, that&#8217;s all I&#8217;ve said.  I&#8217;ve told you nothing about the size of the variance or the significance of the reduction.</p>
<p>Inference is always the fault of the inferrer.</p>
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		<title>By: beckya57</title>
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		<dc:creator>beckya57</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 20:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m hoping this is an omen.  I&#039;ve been saying for the last several years, as long as M&#039;s fans turn out in droves for a lousy team, the owners will save money and give them a lousy team.  (See Cubs, Chicago.)  If attendance finally crashes this year, maybe ownership will get the message and start recruiting better players.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m hoping this is an omen.  I&#8217;ve been saying for the last several years, as long as M&#8217;s fans turn out in droves for a lousy team, the owners will save money and give them a lousy team.  (See Cubs, Chicago.)  If attendance finally crashes this year, maybe ownership will get the message and start recruiting better players.</p>
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