Quick game notes
DMZ · April 6, 2006 at 10:03 pm · Filed Under Mariners
I was never a big believer in karma, but I kinda think after the seats I had tonight that the universe is finally creaking around to making up for my 1988-1992. I was in pretty bad shape for a while there and was glad I managed to rally in time to drag myself into town for the game.
In the spirit of Dave’s notes earlier this week:
- I saw an extremely drunk woman come in before the game and fall over on the steps to her seat.
- She kept yelling “Get a job! Get a fucking job!” at A’s players. I have no idea why.
- They cut her off in middle of the third inning. The third inning.
- They pulled her out of her seat before the fourth for a chat with the cops and she didn’t come back for about an hour.
- Johjima does a lot of infield positioning.
- Johjima is one mobile dude back there. He’s such an amazing upgrade over last year it’s amazing.
- I was psyched about the Johjima signing, and now I’m rapidly turning into a raving fan.
- Billy the ballboy is about the same weight and only slightly smaller then Ichiro.
- This aggressive baserunning thing is great and all, except when they’re getting picked off and generally acting badly. I’ll have to write a whole thing on the breakeven now, but man, Reed seems to not be cut out for this philosophy.
- Meche is Meche. From up close, about 50-75% of his pitches in any inning look like minor-league stuff you’d expect to see from some random AAAA pitcher (like Andrew Lorraine, no offense intended to Lorraine).
- Chavez cranked that ball. That it was only measured at 12 feet longer than the Everett home run is a testament to the unreliability of the metric. I’ve rarely seen balls that well-hit.



I agree about Meche. So-so location, didn’t often get out in front of hitters, three ground-ball outs, seven flies. The 6 Ks were nice but it looked like he got a wide strike zone.
Still, any time you get away with giving up just two runs to the A’s, you’re doing at least well enough to be in the majors. This week, anyway.
There’s a lot to like about this team.
The defense has been as good as advertised. No errors through 4 games now, it’s really nice having 3 out innings instead of 4 out innings all the time.
We’re no longer sending duder catchers up to the plate that can be outhit by Girls College Softball players. I love the Johjima, so much, offensively and defensively. This guy can be marketed, I’m sure.
I loved the Squeeze call tonight, even though it didn’t work out. Shades of Lou, right there. For a team that isn’t gonna outslug many teams, I like the aggressive baserunning (extra bases and we’ve stolen quite a bit), makes for a much interesting game. The stat lovers may hate it, but within the game, it’s a pleasure.
I’m cheap or poor or both and without cable TV, so I’ve been religously listening over the radio, and it’s been a joy. Too much Fairly, but there’s always too much fairly. Neihaus deep in the game of tight ones is a real pleasure, I had forgotten how awesome he is. Back in the Griffey days he would always use the line “Waves that black stained bat around…” and words cannot express how money he is on the radio.
We’ve held our own against 4 major league quality starters. Seems as if almost everybody has had at least a hit.
It’s early, but it’s been a real pleasure.
i just don’t get the cussing rude aspect of being drunk– if you are going to be loud and obnoxious, at least be humorous, and clean. or at least know your audience. jeez.
as for baseball drunkeness– that reminds me!!
i went to my first opening day in denver on monday– what a zoo. it is (and several people told me this) “the only rockies game worth going to see– cause the party is huge and it filters on into downtown for the duration.”
yep… i participated in the drunken revelry. i even got interviewed by fox sports at the uber-cool bar next to the stadium (Jackson Hole) that is the “must go” place before the game… the first question: “what do you think of the rockies chance this year?” I replied.. uhm.. candidly. “You know that metaphor about a snowball in hell?”
Don’t know that I will make the cut. I did get in a brian fuentes former M’s prospect sound clip, though. and the Coors Light girls gave me a hockey jersey, the only one out of 12 interviewees to get one.
as far as the game– honestly, i saw like 2 innings. total. i was a little embarrassed about that, but then, i was already WAAAAY past caring. I tried to stay for extra innings at least, but my friends were like, “No, we gotta get to a bar NOW before it is too late.”
HUH? But the game is going extra innings, why?
then i looked around and realized easily 75% of the crowd was leaving, even though it was opening day and the first decent warm sunny day denver has seen in a while. essentially a perfect day for baseball.
i never saw my seat. only the bar and concourses.
sad. but, when in Rome, i suppose.
NOT a baseball town. Be thankful if you can see the M’s play at Safeco, warts and all. Seattle may not be a hard-core baseball town, but it is no denver, either. thank god.
Speaking of drunk fest I went to the Portland Beavers opener against the River Cats tonight. Fireworks followed the game and followed thirsty Thursday $2 beer night. There was a huge fight in the concession area maybe 8 guys going at it like hockey players (~7th inning). The A’s got a potential ace in Gaudin who looked like a man against boys tonight throwing 5 innings of 2 hit ball and 5 Ks. I guess he was on a pitch count of about 70 pitches because he was dealing through the 5th. Fun game the hometown 9 rallied against the River Cats’ relievers for 6 runs (free fish tacos at Taco Del Mar!). Great night! Still wish I had taped the Mariners game.
#2: Lou always said he didn’t like the squeeze, and I darned sure never saw him call for one in the first inning.
The M’s now lead the AL in both SB (5) and CS (2). If you believe the break-even point for SB is 66% (which is overly generous, since it’s probably closer to 75%), then the net SB count is now 1. Giving away outs on the basepaths is stupid baserunning, no matter what the M’s paid mouthpieces on FSN and KOMO say or believe.
Uh, drunk fans have always been especially irritating to me after I couldn’t remember about half of a playoff game (that I attended) due to the overly intoxicated man next to me A) instigating a fight, B) getting kicked out for shoving someone else, C) breaking back into the stadium thanks to his buddy, and D) getting kicked out again. Alcohol = good. Not being able to handle your alcohol = bad.
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PLEASE ACTUALLY BE A FAN FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE YOU STAT NERDS!!!!
New around here, eh? I’d recommend this or this. Those are just off the top of my head. Hopefully they will open your mind a bit.
And on a personal note, I would like to say that being a fan does not entail ignoring the obvious fact that Gil Meche is not a very good pitcher. At least in my book. [Insert appropriate cliche about broken clocks and/or visually-impaired squirrels finding nuts.]
Year before last a guy behind us made a series of rude sexual comments about and to the maybe-13-year-old girl sitting in our row, and then went away and came back holding (barely) three beers, one of which accidentally went down the back of the girl’s pants, right square in the gap, if you know what I mean. I couldn’t believe it. I’ve sat in the bleachers in Fenway, Yankee, Oakland, and Candlestick, and I’ve never seen anything remotely as out of line. They did carry him out of there, but still.
Nice to see Jeff Fassero pick up a win over in the San Francisco over 40s league.
I probably should’ve known better than to respond to a comment that was clearly not compliant with the comment guidelines. Then again, I’ve been drinking tonight, and that tends to impair my judgement. To get more back on topic with the notes…
Billy the ballboy is about the same weight and only slightly smaller then Ichiro.
The various strange appearances of batboys amuses me to no end. Batboys who are extremely overweight, batboys who have mullets, etc., really add to my amusement at the games. I always wonder just what sorts of menial tasks they have to put up with doing in order to be the batboy.
Does anyone remember the classic final scene in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid? For those who aren’t fans of great cinema (or for Dave, whose VCR/DVD use is likely limited to evaluating film of fourteen year old left-handed pitching prospects in preparation of his upcoming 2012 draft analysis), let me recap the scenario:
Butch and Sundance, bank robbers, have pulled off one too many heists and are at wit’s end in Bolivia, where they are currently seeking refuge from American bounty hunters. Their plans to avoid trouble have failed - the fugitives, after agitating the locals, find themselves lying against the wall of a shack, reloading their hot-barreled pistols, hoping that their oozing bullet wounds can wait another few minutes until they shoot their way through a mob of angry villagers. They figure that there are a handful of gunmen waiting for them outside the shack’s lone exit, and with no alternatives, they limp out into the street with guns drawn. Unbeknownst to our heroes, the entire Bolivian Army has just arrived in town and is lined up like a firing squad on the opposite side of the street. The film’s final image, also used in the promotional movie poster, is of Butch and Sundance charging forward to challenge their opponent the moment before they die. Tragic, but inspiring.
This metaphor sort of sums up my feelings about Hargrove’s strategy. His back is against the wall, and without a lineup of run producers, he feels that his only alternative is to run the bases like Anna Nicole on crack. It’s a gutsy move - the kind of strategy that players and fans will respond to, rally behind, and cheer for - but it is also likely to fail, as the stat junkies who run this fine site have already demonstrated. So, what to make of it?
I say go for it. Yes, it’s a gamble with uphill odds, but it may generate enough team morale (”It’s us against the world…screw ‘em!”) and interest among the fans (”Does Raul actually believe he should be hitting triples? There’s a dreamer for you!”) that it may be a risk worth taking.
Sure, they died. But Butch and Sundance gave me something to cheer for.
Too bad the trade deadline isn’t tomorrow. Then maybe the M’s could package Meche & Guardado before they turn back into rotting jack-o-lanterns, caved in faces and all. And where is our Joel Zumaya?
Besides, everyone knows the expression is “Stats Drunk Computer Nerds”.
At the game exactly a year ago, I had the joy of sitting next to an extremely smelly, drunk, and loud guy. It was Bobby Madritsch’s first and last start of the year, and I’ll remember it always for the fact that this guy next to me felt the need to yell “WAY TO GO, BOBBY!” after every single pitch, until my ears were ringing.
It was Bret Boone’s birthday, and The Boone even managed to hit a huge home run in the second inning, by which point Cheering Drunk Guy was already up to about a 3-2 count on his beers and looking to put another one low and away. He jumped up to cheer the home run and immediately spilled his entire beer all over the lady sitting in front of him, who was wearing a really nice jacket, saying “Hey, ah got so ‘cited by the home run that ah couldn’t hold mah beer!”
From what I recall, there were no repercussions aside from dirty looks from people in the section and a lot of us choosing to move up a few rows to get away from him. Ugh.
On the other hand, he did have one clever line for the day, when he yelled “YOU’RE A BUM, PUNTO! YOU SMELL! P-U! PUNTO!”
I am sorry for my comments earlier, I was influenced by a couple amazng bottles of wine. My point still stands though, Meche looked good tonight. He did throw a bunch of pitches, but he had double digit pitches that missed by inches on the corners. He made a few mistakes, and got punished for them. I am well aware that he has sucked hardcore in the past. Please do no let that influence what he did tonight.
Any chance that something not mentioned in the boxscore could actually be relevant?
Meche threw 101 pitches, 40 of which were balls. Thats right at 40%, that is not pitching well. He was extremely lucky to get out of some bad jams tonight. If you have 5 pitchers pitch like Gil pitched tonight how would your bullpen be after a week?
This has nothing to do with how he has pitched in the past, infact if Felix pitches that way tomorrow (you know the guy who has been nothing but awesome in the past) I would be extremely worried something might be wrong with him.
I’m personally happy that you are here, it shows that you most likely want to learn more about baseball. However statements like the one that got deleted, and the latest one at the end of your comment, show that you don’t really understand the authors or the posters here. We are all here because we are fans, we dig deep into the numbers to learn more about the sport and the team that we love.
You think Meche looked good tonight, everyone else here that saw the game disagrees with you. Are you sure that you are correct and we are all wrong?
The 6 Ks were nice but it looked like he got a wide strike zone.
Not really. 5 of the 6 strikeouts were on swings or foul tips and the one caught looking should have been called the pitch before. Meche wasn’t getting the left-side of the plate at all. I counted 3 strikeouts that were thrown there but not called. Two of those ended up being walks.
Any chance that something not mentioned in the boxscore could actually be relevant?
The A’s looked horrible and uncomfortable. Meche’s changeup might have just been that devastating, but it could have been that the combined offense of the Oakland team hasn’t done well this season. Eric Chavez is the exception. A’s are a combined .227 / .309 / .364 as a team with only Chavez, Bradley, and Kotsay making any respectable contributions.
In other words: team slump. Oakland did this last year at the beginning too and took off like nobody’s business around tne end of May.
You think Meche looked good tonight, everyone else here that saw the game disagrees with you. Are you sure that you are correct and we are all wrong?
I don’t think Meche looked “good” tonight, but I don’t think he was bad either. Two of his flyballs would have been homeruns in some other stadiums, but other then that he wasn’t particularly “lucky” or “fortunate”. What I would say is that I see a marked improvement in the current Gil Meche comapred to what we’ve seen in the past. It might be a bit of a bad idea to take this start as an indication of his current abilities and status seeing as how he was starting against a team notorious for not swinging at what aren’t strikes.
In other words, Gil Meche looked like the “too many pitches” Meche this time, but considering the opponent, perhaps not so much. I don’t know. I like his two-seam, changeup, curve repetoire better then the four-seam, curve, slider, changeup one.
Johjima is just such a stud I can’t stop smiling whenever I type his name. Calls a good game; maximally focused on every pitch; smart, adaptable, disciplined hitter. Lopez can plain hit, too. I’m a big believer in Betancourt’s ability to make contact and succeed as a hitter as well. The idea of the squeeze wasn’t bad at all, but YuBet’s hit that followed is the better evidence of how to use his abilities.
With these three guys in the lineup, the Ms are able to sustain rallies and play add-on in later innings in a way _totally_ absent in the last two years. Whether or not else improves at all, the contribution of these three guys (and Soriano) bodes very well for a better result for the team this year.
Just for fun I did my first ever Dips ERA calculation, if I did not screw up his DIPS Era tonight was 3.43
Bah, I meant 3.34 just incase someone already has a workbook already setup and decides to double check me and see that I’m a fool.
By the way, if those two flyouts had gone for homeruns instead of just really long flyouts his DIPS Era would have jumped to 6.99
There were a handful of loud drunk guys at Tacoma last night as well. I know it was a Thursday and all, but was it $1 beer night already???
Anyway, what I want to know is this. WHY IS DAVE MYERS COACHING IN TACOMA?????? I thought he was supposed to be in Everett! The media guide says so. Yet there he was, thankfully, only coaching 1B and not 3B. Does anybody know the skinny on it? Is he just hanging out killing time till short A season starts?
Nageotte, Green, and Fruto all looked pretty good last night (6 IP, 2 H, 2BB, 6K for Nageotte - sweet), as did Rob Johnson. Two very nice, very decisive caught-stealings, and a very heads-up backup positioning/play that saved our tails on a Cabrera throwing error in the 8th..
Oh yeah, the aggressive baserunning thing? I’m thinking maybe they’re going with it organization-wide. (It’s hard to tell in Tacoma though, cuz Rohn ALWAYS ran his clubs fairly aggressively on the basepaths).
Ooops, re #24. Scorebook reading error. Nageotte was only in for 5 so I gave him 1 inning and 2Ks that really belonged to Atchison instead. I wish one could re-edit their posts to correct such things
Meche was what I would term “effectively wild”. He misses so badly at times, usually up, that I would imagine hitters can’t be real comfortable. Not that I think he’s trying to do this, it’s just a by-product of his total lack of command.
Also, I am also concerned that Lopez is thinking too much and being too mechanical up there. I realize the results have been good so far but most of his hits have been bleeders or bloopers that barely fall in. Once that stops, he’s going to struggle. Kudos to him for trying to go the other way as the M’s want, I’m just afraid he’s going to lose his natural pop and end up being a punch and judy hitter with a low OBP and no power.
Butch and Sundance aren’t dead. They are color commentators for Acapulco cliff diving events on ESPN 2 (or ESPN Dos, if you’re south of the border).
In baseball related news, I was just glad that Putz had a good outing, closing it out “in dramatic fashion” to quote The Niehaus.
It’s weird how Reed is one of the fastest guys on the team, but looks completely lost on the basepaths. That was a pretty uncomfortable looking standup triple, if such a thing is possible. He always has an “oh crap!” look on his face when running the bases that scares me.
Went to a M’s game in Oakland a couple years ago where Meche pitched. That was awesome for drunk fan entertainment. The man behind me kept yelling YOURE A MESS, MECHE! as if that was the funniest thing in the world. And there was a little tiny man in A’s gear who was literally trying to start a fight with Bret Boone every time he came out to hit. I have to admit it was really entertaining how much energy they put into it. Then again no one spilled beer on me either. I definitely recommend going to M’s games in Oaktown.
Looking at Lopez’s hit chart over at MLB.com. Wow. i must admit i was blinded by the 3-5 night on Wed. He’s only hit 5 balls out of the infield so far (3 singles, 1 triple, and 1 flyout). He is grounding out like CRAZY! He’s got a few bleeders that drop in the right spot, but should there be concern? I guess you shouldn’t look a gift horse in the mouth, and when those bleeders and dying quails start being outs it’s time for some adjustments or moves in the lineup…..no not Willie, just get Joh-mama into the 2 spot maybe?
Was it me or was Meche decent once he was in a full count? It seems he went full with EVERYONE, but he only walked 2? Again its not the arm its the head! of course Swisher gave him 3ks last night.
#3 -
I lived in Boulder during the opening years of the Rockies; in fact, I was among the 80,227 who showed for Opening Day 1993. Trust me, back then it WAS a baseball town. Then they started to suck, and the Avs moved to town, then Elway did his helicopter thing, then CU football went through a not-suck couple of years, then Carmelo made the Nuggets not suck…. They were still drawing 40,000+ a game in 2000, but five straight 89+ loss teams will dry up your fanbase in a hurry, especially with so much sports dollar competition.
And this is why the M’s need to start showing some improvement this year, because three more years of 90-loss baseball will bring us back to 80s Kingdome crowds and years-long waiting lists for Seahawks tickets. The only thing that could staunch the bleeding would be the Oklahoma City Sonics.
The A’s broadcast had an interesting comment. They said that the strategy for dealing with the Mariners was to “hang with them until you can knock their starter out” because “professional scouts all over the league agree that their bullpen is very shaky”. That came as a big surprise to me, as I was under the impression that the bullpen was a core strength for the team, and outside of Felix, our starters were pretty shaky. Is this just hogwash? or is it more of a “divided camp” kind of thing, where some scouts are high on Sherrill, Putz, Mateo, etc. while others are down on them? (I specifically left out Soriano and Guardado, because I can’t imagine too many professional scouts would dislike those two).
There was a lot of alcohol last night, or at least my whole section was drunk. My section was also loaded down with active service and vets. I don’t want to think there’s a coorelation.
The guy behind me was from the Cincy suburbs and got back from Iraq last December. It was his first M’s game. I got the sense that he was a Bungles fan more than a Reds fan, though.
There was a Yanks fan behind me swearing up a blue streak, until he realized that there was a 2-year-old sitting in front of him (aka my daughter). Then he was profusely apologetic. No word of apology to the family on our right of boys who actually might be cognizant of the blue language.
Meche was terrible, worse in person than on TV.I know what the stats say about what effect a catcher has on the effectiveness of a pitcher, but I want to believe that Johjima is shaving half an earned run off the staff ERA. It’s so nice to have a competent catcher again that his great hitting just seems like lagniappe.
As far as the As Broadcast team is concerned….consider who is on the Ms broadcasting team. And consider they are by no means the worst in baseball….
Re: Reeds CS, I watched the pickoff move by Calero frame-by-frame, and unfortunately there was no camera angle shown with both Reed and Calero, but… Calero definitely made some sort of movement with his left leg - flexed knee, slight inward turn, something. If Reed keyed off that, and it was too subtle to be called a balk, then he’s dead meat every time. Hopefully a lesson learned - both from the pitcher’s move, and from Reed triggering on the wrong movement.
People are entitled to their opinions, but I’m fairly confident that after a couple of months the league will be very wary of the M’s bullpen. Get them in the first 6 innings, or don’t get them at all.
As for drunk, foul-mouthed fans, in the better seats (DMZ, it sounds like you had good seats, where were you?) the ushers are great about taking care of them and have zero qualms about calling the cops if that’s what it takes. Especially true if you point something out to them. I’ve had a few fans “relocated” over the years. I can’t comment on other stadium locations as I haven’t sat there enough; I also suspect it’s a numbers game there too.
#12 — How exactly does Anna Nicole Smith run the bases on crack? i would suppose she is fairly immobile.
BTW, I thought the bullpen looked pretty sweet last night, Meche looked like he was on thin ice constantly. Man, the A’s are not happy with Loaiza.
Loaiza looked terrible last night. But even more amazingly, Dave Henderson sounded like he knew what he was talking about when discussing Loaiza’s transition to a finesse pitcher.
Regardless of the statistical merits of aggressive baserunning, Ibañez’s “triple” was worth it just to hear Hendu and Rizzs nearly get into an on-air argument over whether he was out. Rizzs was nothing but a hopeless homer.
Lopez CS the other night was getting back to first base, he wasn’t trying to steal to my knowledge. Also, it was said that Jeff Weaver had a pretty good move to first base just a few pitches before that, so he could have been caught even if he wasn’t trying to steal.
I think if you actually ask an usher (seating host?) they will make an effort to deal with someone who is a problem; it is the rare section where the usher is proactive, though, just because they aren’t patrolling….
Dropping the F bomb at Safeco? I thought that was made an A-1 felony as stipulated by a little known clause in the M’s stadium agreement….
I can not get enough of Joh….I mean seriously…did you guys see him talking to Woods on the way back to the dugout? None of the catchers we had last year actually talked ot the pitchers. Specially not to calm them down. Any chance we could come up with some sort of crazy metric to gauge the % improvement of Joh over last year’s average if we factor in both offensive and defensive scores? Are there any metrics our there for judging a catchers effect on a pitcher?
I think an in-depth analysis will reveal a positive correlation between the increased number of times Ichiro dives for ball he wouldn’t have gotten to last season and improved performance of the pitching staff…
anybody else notice that ichiro changed the style of his pants, away from the Freddy-style over the cleat long to the trot nixon socks up to the knees?
Does anyone else get the feeling that when people bash “stats geeks” or claim “the game is played on the field, not on a slide rule” - that there is a very basic level disconnect with the concept itself?
I mean, I am by no means a stats expert, I can’t follow half the math here, but it seems to me when people say things like that it’s as if they don’t understand the concept of statistical analysis at the most basic level - like they think that all the stats you throw around here are more of “a computer’s opinion” than a “historical record.”
I think the argument has been had so many times that some people just miss the very basic concept that stats ARE what “happened on the field”.
Love the game post-mortem!
Johjima is dreamy. He’s everything you could want in a catcher. I love the active role he takes with his pitchers. That’s something that’s been missing here for a decade. I remember being really pissed at Dan Wilson for not going out to the mound to calm a guy down. Johjima truly is running the game, and that’s how it should be.
Ichiro is a golden god. I’ve waited all off-season for something like that broken bat infield single. Every time I see a bang-bang play like that I’m reminded of just how boring homerun highlights are. Baseball has the most poetic highlights in all of sports but ESPN is obsessed with the long ball.
Betancourt is good. Man he’s good.
Ya…. ESPN is all T&A….. im more of a eyes and smile kinda guy (specifically when a *cute* woman walks by I quickly turn my head toward my wife, look into her eyes and smile)… but in their defense, ESPN’s website does have some sabermetrics…
Gil takes out Little Hurt and gang…
It’s a little bit distressing that Seattle beat Oakland last night. However, I’ll think of good thoughts: the guy I’m sure will be the A’s worst starter this year (Esteban Loaiza) was on the mound, a reliever who won’t even be in the majors in a …
I love the active role he takes with his pitchers. That’s something that’s been missing here for a decade. I remember being really pissed at Dan Wilson for not going out to the mound to calm a guy down.
what? you don’t recall the fine gradations of the Wilson Calming Techniques that ranged from hand-on-shoulder-with-eye-contact to full on arm-around-waist-walk-him-up-the-mound?
2006 Free Agent Pitching comparison Round 1:
Kevin Millwood: 5IP, 5ER, 3K, 1 Loss
Jeff Weaver: 6.1IP, 5ER, 2K, 1 Loss
Esteban Loiza: 4.2IP, 5ER, 1K, 1 Loss
Jarrod Washburn: 7.0IP, 2ER, 7K, 1 Win
Wasn’t a fan of the Washburn signing, thought Loiza was a great deal at the time, and don’t want to jinx anything, but…..so far so good. It’s a long season, and these contracts are even longer (except Weaver)…..wait and see.
46 - That’s almost certainly true. I know an engineer who claims he doesn’t “believe in statistics” because “they can’t predict future occurences”. This guy has training in a field of applied science, and he doesn’t understand the value of known probabilities.
Statistics make perfect sense. People who don’t understand them want them to be something they’re not.
msb, Wilson would occasionally go to the mound and when he did it was good, but a lot of the time he would just sit behind the plate and watch the pitcher flail. Freddy was a prime example of this.
Speaking about the announcers, I did love how many times Hendu made the point that Meche was more effective when he works quicker. I counted 5, and I’m sure I missed some.
There is quite the USSM-wide mancrush on Johjima, ain’t there?
thinking about it, he used to do a lot more visiting in the Kingdome days… now was that because it was the pitchers on the staff then, the effects of the Dome, the fact it was pre-Price? hmm.
I think he just got old and chrochety.
And, yes, there’s a huge mancrush on Johjima. I want to have his manbabies.
Chicks dig Johjima too.
You don’t have to tell me that. My wife has already adopted him as her favorite M.
I dig johjima.
My wife digs me.
Therefore my wife digs johjima.