Game 13, Mariners at Red Sox
DMZ · April 16, 2006 at 11:16 am · Filed Under Game Threads
Doh. I wrote a game thread post and tried to queue it last night. Didn’t work, obviously.
Washburn v Beckett.
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Go Washburn! way to walk the lead-off guy
Well, with Manny, it could have been worse
Lawton is starting over Crazy Carl.
Wow terrible call there at first, they nailed him.
#1: I guess Washburn didn’t read the book. Greek god of something or other.
What a crock, that call at first.
Got robbed…
Varitek can run fast?
#6: According to this morning’s Boston papers, the same ump blew a call at 2nd yesterday in favor of the M’s when Wakefield picked a runner off 2nd. He claimed the HP umpire had called time, which he had not.
Varitek’s I’m-stealing run is hilarious. He looks like he’s running barefoot across a hot parking lot on the way to the beach or something.
wow, that was such a bad call, possibly the worst i have seen in sometime
#8: No, but Varitek can run smart.
Did anyone see the Sexson tag? Was it good or was Veritek actually safe
How could he possibly miss that call? Cost us a run and Beltre an error – and defense is all Adrian has right now, let’s not take that away from him, ump.
On a different subject, does anyone watch the games through DirecTV’s Extra Innings? Granted I missed 2 or 3 games at the start while they sent me a new reciever for my computer… but every single game I’ve watched has been the opposing team’s announcers. Not one Seattle broadcast. What’s up with that?
Nevermind, the page didnt relaod with new comments for some reason
#13: We didn’t have a replay down-the-line camera angle, but Valle says he was out, and we know he’s unbiased.
When’s the last time Beltre got a hit?
DCFan – it couldn’t have been more of a tag unless Washburn had sat on him while Lopez held his legs and Sexson rubbed the ball all over his body.
Beltre still proving to be absolutely worthless, I still have faith though… Lets go Matt make it so carl doesn’t see the field that much anymore!
#14: There’s no way to predict which feed EI selects. I believe yesterday’s game on EI used the FSNW feed.
I have the extra innings thing…they just use the home team’s broadcast so when they’re playing in Seattle, they’ll have their broadcast.
The News Tribune is reporting that the M’s are trying to trade Petagine and Lawton so Borchard can stay with the team and get more playing time.
Excerpts:
“BOSTON – Matt Lawton signed as a fourth outfielder, and Roberto Petagine’s bat won him a job out of spring training – but the Seattle Mariners almost certainly will trade one of them in the next few weeks.
An unbalanced roster that has the team short of middle infielders and overcrowded with left-handed hitters must change because, in the long run, it simply doesn’t provide for a solid bench.
The simplest answer is the one Seattle is pursuing – moving Lawton or Petagine, hanging on to switch-hitting outfielder Joe Borchard.
Seattle isn’t looking for a huge return with either player.”
…
“Neither Lawton nor Petagine can be sent to the minor leagues, so the option for the Mariners is to trade or release one of them. Lawton, because he signed as a free agent, would have to approve any deal if dealt before June.
He’s open to doing so.
“I signed here and knew the situation, but yeah, I’d like to play more,†Lawton said. “I’m not asking for a trade, and I understand their situation. If something comes up where I can go somewhere and play, you bet I’d listen.â€
…
“Lawton was going to get his first start of the season Saturday – until manager Mike Hargrove checked the computer printouts. Lawton was going to replace Everett as designated hitter – but Everett has a career .438 average against knuckleball specialist Tim Wakefield.”
From a Beckett interview during the offseason: “A scouting report on me? Swing early.”
Looks like the M’s got the report.
#21: No. Two of the three Red Sox / Rangers games (in Texas) this year used the NESN feed.
They ought to be considering trading Everett rather than Lawton or Petagine. Oh yeah, I forgot — Everett has no trade value whatsoever. Geez, what were they thinkin’.
Why would you play Lawton at DH? Ibanez’s not a good defensive LF, Lawton’s likely to be better, even without the layoff, and it gets Ibanez a day without running around in the outfield.
20 and 21 – Yesterday’s game for me on EI was the Boston broadcast. And the five or six Seattle home games I watched were all visiting team’s broadcasts.
Weird.
lopez really makes me scared when he has to go to his left or right
26: I second that.
#27: The XM Radio algorithm is much simpler: home feed, always.
I love EI, but I really should be able to pick my feed. Since I buy both the DirecTV sports package and the MLB EI package, all they’d have to do is not black out the regional sports channels during baseball games. How hard is that.
Shelton just hit another homerun.
Oh I don’t know I haven’t watched many of other team’s games but it seemed that all the Mariners home games were done with their broadcast. Man another error charge to Beltre…guy can’t catch a break.
Or a ball 33, wait, he can’t HIT a ball, sorry
I love EI, but I really should be able to pick my feed.
It really is a pain to listen to some other team’s announcers, for the most part. The company line can get tired after a while, but it’s a lot better than hearing the opposition’s company line. I would pay an extra 25 or 30 percent more just to get to pick the feed.
Beltre has two errors, he should have none. Not that I’m his most stalwart defender these days, but it looks like his lack of luck is infecting his defense today.
JOSE!!!!
Boy, Pena as an outfielder is a good DH.
Nice triple by Lopez…although probably should’ve only been a single had Pena not tried to make a great play.
Oh man, that would have been cool.
[plays "Dick Van Dyke" theme song]
wow
YES
Wow, the luck pendulum swings back the other way
Clearly, the Red Sox don’t have enough flair.
Nice bloop single for Ibanez…tie game. I’ve been impressed with Lopez so far this season, he’s doing well in the 2 spot for us.
Dave Valle… “You gotta know when to walk to first, and know when to run.”
I can’t believe Beltre is getting errors and the three stooges aren’t.
I wonder if Chris Shelton still has “Rule 5 Stud” surgically grafted to his name.
ok beltre lets get a hit please
Its nice (after two years) to see stuff go our way in the Luck department
Can’t Petagine be sent down? He was signed ti minor league contract or is that void when he made the 40 man roster?
You can send him down. You can’t take him off the 40 without putting him through waivers etc etc
Gotta love reckless base running
Gritty, gutty baserunning by Raul there.
i think part of beltres problems correspond with Everett hitting behind him… Hes not going to get anything to hit with Everett behind him and with his bad start hes pressing to much and trying to do to much…
I have exactly zero evidence to point out, but I remember reading somewhere that the idea of “protection” in a batting lineup actually worked opposite to conventional thinking. If that’s the case, wouldn’t hitting in front of a crappy person actually be in your favor?
Remember, kids, every win by the Mariners is more day we have to live with Grover. Go Sox!
Niehaus back to what happened in “1984.”
55 — yes, and vice versa.
Beltre strikes out…
(Rocky-like howl of anguish): ADRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAAAAN!
#60: In related news, sun rises in east
There’s nothing like loading the bases…
…to give you a warm fuzzy feeling.
Is anyone else having troubles with the ESPN GameCast?
I’m having trouble with Washburn.
But the Red Sox aren’t
Well, at least we get the call on the tag
another “wild pitch” for the mariners pitchers. We are gonna get a years worth of wild pitches/passed balls this first month.
Was that a true passed ball or was that another attempt to stab at it by Kenji?
It was a belt high oustide fastball that bounced off Kenji’s glove.
More triples?!?!
OK, that was a GOOD time to go for 3.
Watching Ibanez run is pure humor.
Or maybe not (double, E-Pena).
I think Willy mo was hoping that ball was gonna bounce into the stands.
That was a pretty filthy 3-2 pitch.
And in steps the liability
C’mon AB, here is your chance to redeem a little
Richie’s gonna break the single-season strikeout record if he keeps this up…
perhaps hitting below .100 will become know as hitting below the belt..re.
Jesus Jones, he is absolutely embarrassing
Adrian Beltre is the worst player in the league with men in scoring position…like 0-16 or something
He’s killing me…
Man Beckett is good. I am intimidated by him sitting here at home.
Pitchers usually hit better than Beltre
Make that 0 for 17, now
my grandma hits better than beltre, and she’s got a bad shoulder
anyone thinking maybe we should DH the 3rd baseman and let the pitcher hit?
Our best hope now is to go through some pitches next inning and then have a Keith Foulke sighting in the 8th!!
I really wouldn’t be as bothered with AB’s hitting if we had some sort of competency managing this tean and KJ was hitting 5th.
I say trade Beltre; it just isnt working for him. Let Petagine bat next time around
Aside from the four walks, Washburn did quite well today.
92. Trade him? Too bad Isiah Thomas doesn’t run a baseball team…
Is it against the rules for the Mariners to drive in the tying run from third base with less than 2 outs?!? Further, at this point, Adrian Beltre is not a credible major league hitter. Consider that everyone on this thread has the same amount of homers and RBIs as he does! OUCH.
Beltre still fields his position better than anyone. One can only hope the light will suddenly illuminate and he will hit at least his weight.
Consider that everyone on this thread has the same amount of homers and RBIs as he does! OUCH.
Are you sure? Someone posting here must have more.
I just wonder if Beltre is injured? I thought he was doing well in the WBC and then there was a report of an injury. Is he hiding it? Perhaps a stint on the DL is what he needs???
This whole Beltre thing is just so depressing. And unfortunately, with the amount of money he’s making, it has the potentential to really suck the team down. Not only in terms of resentment from other players (who are doing more, or anything) at this point. But also in terms of, like, the fact that he’s basically a mediocre high school hitter placed onto a major league roster at this point… and you can’t sit him or do anything.
We kind of deserve this too, because it was so obvious that he was playing for a contract during his monster year. and the biggest sucker pays the biggest price, and that was and is us.
Sherril has the anit-Wetland hat on.
At least Manny is almost as bad as Beltre.
Here’s a new way to say its still early;
On this date last year, Ichiro was hitting .432, Boone was hitting .293, and Ryan Franklin threw 8 innings while allowing only two runs to lower his ERA to 2.18.
when we hear about how we only have 6 relievers tomorrow, remember this.
Niehaus has us awaiting a new pitcher to throw to “Manny Ortiz.” sigh.
Sure, burn up three pitchers for a single inning.
Adrian Beltre couldn’t hit Al Martin’s second wife.
Wheeeeeeeewwwwwwwwww
First of all, someone on the broadcast staff please send a memo to Fairly and tell him how to pronounce Johjima’s name.
Secondly, someone please give Hargrove a clue and have him move Kenji up in the lineup ahead of Beltre & whomever the DH du jour is.
The implication that his big year was something he just “turned on” because it was a contract year is sort of silly. I’m sure he would rather be hitting a lot better than he is.
It’s pretty clear he’s a head case. Maybe he could be traded someplace on the asusmption that he needs a change of scenery.
Hey, if we trade him, that would give Hargrove a chance to play True Grit at 3b.
Wait, they’re not showing the Ricoh commercial for the SIXTH time in a row?
Come on Fox Sports. Ricoh paid you the money to totally make me hate them.
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move adrian down – take pressure off of him – there is no way they trade and no way they sit him
Why Seattle bugs me: all game I’ve been looking out the window and seeing dark clouds/sun/whatever, wondering why I didn’t just go out and get some miles in biking. Just now, sun pouring in during the commercial break, I look out and notice that the sun’s shining and it’s pouring rain.
I’m going to move some place predictable. Like Arizona. Or the Arctic.
Dang, Ichi is back on another mini-slump
They’re giving Pena a sarcastic round of applause.
I hate Bosox fans, but they know how to tell guys they suck.
Don’t they know their job as fans is to applaud their scrappy players, no matter their performance?
wow what is this manny making some defensive plays?
Lopez better steal, because if Richie doesn’t drive him in, we are screwed in the 9th.
cripes. we just can’t win, can we.
i think the game is over now… we are starting with 1 out in the 9th and nobody on down 3-2
That’s kind of cool for the Mariners to give Ichiro! bobblehead dolls to everyone who attends the game.
beltre is ging to come t hrough next inning. I can feel it in my left index finger.
Beltre is going to strike out next inning. I can feel it in my right middle finger.
I just ask to be scared by Eddie next inning……is it too much?
Well, at this rate, we get to rest the bullpen in the 9th.
Maybe Mr. Corcoran would be so good as to offer his thoughts on effective weed control, as the game seems to be going downhill quickly.
Hey, we do have some studs in our ‘pen though.
I don’t know about weed control, but I put down Scott’s spring fertilizer with iron a few weeks ago and it sure killed the moss.
Speaking of weed control, here comes AB
I’ve had poor results with Scott’s products on my own lawn, though I have not used the spring fertilizer with iron.
Beltre’s a good argument for giving everyone non-guaranteed contracts.
wow come on lay off that pitch!
Hey, maybe Beltre will atone for his two “errors” …
he hits it hard finally but of course right at someone
Mr Corcoran might enlighten us on chick seduction music.
Damnit, why did they have to take Pena out?
Beltre couldn’t buy a break right now, even with all the money he’s making.
Damn, where’s Wily Mo when you need him?
Did AB just try to go the opposite way?
Let’s go JOH!
So we’re gonna lose by the Phantom Run, eh?
Not so fast…
That’s going to honk me off all day.
watch this. WIN
Man, that is frustrating.
by win, i meant LOSE
Why have we not seen Petagine to pitch hit? Doesn’t he know Boston’s pitchers?
yep i always say 1 run games are the managers fault good job hargrove…
…Or you could point to the run in the 1st on the missed call on the tag which allowed a run to score… Nothing went out way today
How could we have three well-pitched games at Fenway (can’t remember the last time THAT happened), and still lose 2 of 3??
Disspointing result, but I’m happy and a bit surpised to get three quality starts v. the sox.
Outscored Boston 6-4 in the series so far, and lost one to the umps 0-1
ok, so that’s 8 times Rizzs has mentioned the “controversial” run. Let it go.
I will say that Fenway looks a lot better now that they pulled down that obomination of the 400 club. I hated it when it went up.
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You can almost feel Rick’s anger as he talks about the tag.
Anyone catch Papelbon’s post-game interview? It sounded like he was channeling Nuke LaLoosh! Cliché after cliché after cliché…my dad and I were just cracking up!
I wish we had Beltran!
#157 – I was thinking the very same thing.
I was waiting to hear “there’s just no quit in this team.”
The run that wasnt didnt cause the loss; Beltre’s at bats did. He looks lost and he seems to be unable to snap out of whatever he has got in to. Let him go Grover; bite the bullet!
I blame the media.
Clearly, Tony Batista (currently hitting .303/.378/.606) has stolen Beltre’s hitting mojo. I expect that when the M’s face the Twins, Beltre will confront Batista about this and steal his mojo back.
If you’re Tony Batista, what’s to fear? You know Beltre couldn’t hit you if he tried.
And Batista’s not exactly a small target…
At what point do we get to harass grover for not moving k-jo up in the order?
The best hitter on the team right now is batting 7th. The next 3 best hitters are 2/3/4. In between, what do you have? A 3B who has a .100 BA and a DH spot that is mustering a .624 ops.
OPS for #5 hitters on the mariners: .281
Opponents: .813
That’s just ridiculous. And beltre is getting up to the plate with runners on (19 of 42 trips) and often in scoring position (16 of 42 trips).
The team needs to fix beltre but i’d rather not lose games while he remembers how to use a bat.
I’m willing to be philosophical about the game. They were in this game and if not for a bad call would have gone to extra innings. (Be honest…the odds the M’s win in extras at Fenway? Not. Good.)
Beckett was on his game today and there’s no shame in getting shut down by a guy like that. The M’s are an entertaining team so far this year and are right up there in their division. Hopefully when they start playing the dregs of the league they’ll make some serious headway.
Good points, Daves. Apparently, if Beltre wants his mojo back, he’s going to have to be sneaky about it and steal it while Batista’s not looking, rather than risking a confrontation.
Heh. During spring training, Batgirl started referring to Batista as Fatista due to his burly, Bosio-esque, never pass the buffet table empty-handed physique.
That name quickly morphed into T-Fat, and with his generally studly hitting so far (oh what we’d give for an .800 OPS out of our 3B) that has since morphed into T-Phat. Heck, he’s even made Boyfriend of the Day once.
I’m pretty sure TB isn’t going to give up the mojo lightly. Might need to enlist Austin Powers’ help.
From Monday’s Boston Herald:
Varitek’s call: ‘He tagged me’
From Ken Rosenthal’s Foxsports.com column:
“Through Saturday, the Mariners’ Richie Sexson was hitting .244, Ichiro Suzuki .200, Carl Everett .154 and Adrian Beltre — gasp! — .119. Catcher Kenji Johjima led the club with a .333 average, but one scout, holding a minority opinion, believes that opposing pitchers eventually will exploit Johjima’s holes. “In the end, I don’t think he’ll hit,” the scout says. “I’d be surprised if he has a very good year offensively.”
#169 – shocker, eh?
Also see that Trost “DL” Nixon will be playing in RF tomorrow. Well, I guess at least he knows the angles.
Really if your first pick to start a team were betwen Beltre and Batista You would draft Batista?
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/2002934508_marinotes17.html
If the Mariners continue to sputter on offense, there will be changes.
The problem for manager Mike Hargrove is the limited number of changes he can make with Ichiro off to the worst start of his career on either side of the Pacific, hitting .185, and Carl Everett hitting .154.
Unfortunately, both of them are producing more than Adrian Beltre, now down to .109.
“At some point we’ll move some guys around,” Hargrove said after his club was topped 3-2 by the Boston Red Sox on Sunday. “But it’s not as simple as it may appear.”
For today’s 11 a.m. EST Patriots Day start, Willie Bloomquist will replace Jeremy Reed in center field, with left-hander Lenny DiNardo starting for Boston.
How is it that Harrgrove manages to not only platoon the wrong player (Reed instead of Everett), but make the wrong platoon substitution as well (Bloomquist instead of Borchard)? Does he have to go to school to mismanage a roster like this?
I was at the game. Couple notes:
I was way down in the right field corner and had no view of the Varitek/Sexon play at first base but still I knew they blew that call. Rather shocking.
I think Beckett has Beltre attached to two pieces of wood and a couple strings.
Why the idiots next to me feel the need to boo Pena is beyond me. I guess knowing that they Boo’ed Foulke less than 12 months since he was a World Series hero should have clued me in, but still.
I actually heard somebody yell, “You suck Manny” after he got out. Unbelievable…