Comments on: Game 13, Mariners at Red Sox http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/16/game-13-mariners-at-red-sox/ Seattle Mariners and general baseball discussion with David Cameron and Derek Zumsteg Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:38:22 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: amarshal2 http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/16/game-13-mariners-at-red-sox/comment-page-4/#comment-95919 amarshal2 Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:42:36 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/16/game-13-mariners-at-red-sox/#comment-95919 I was at the game. Couple notes: I was way down in the right field corner and had no view of the Varitek/Sexon play at first base but still I knew they blew that call. Rather shocking. I think Beckett has Beltre attached to two pieces of wood and a couple strings. Why the idiots next to me feel the need to boo Pena is beyond me. I guess knowing that they Boo'ed Foulke less than 12 months since he was a World Series hero should have clued me in, but still. I actually heard somebody yell, "You suck Manny" after he got out. Unbelievable... I was at the game. Couple notes:

I was way down in the right field corner and had no view of the Varitek/Sexon play at first base but still I knew they blew that call. Rather shocking.

I think Beckett has Beltre attached to two pieces of wood and a couple strings.

Why the idiots next to me feel the need to boo Pena is beyond me. I guess knowing that they Boo’ed Foulke less than 12 months since he was a World Series hero should have clued me in, but still.

I actually heard somebody yell, “You suck Manny” after he got out. Unbelievable…

]]> By: eponymous coward http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/16/game-13-mariners-at-red-sox/comment-page-4/#comment-95913 eponymous coward Mon, 17 Apr 2006 07:44:17 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/16/game-13-mariners-at-red-sox/#comment-95913 http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/2002934508_marinotes17.html <i>If the Mariners continue to sputter on offense, there will be changes. The problem for manager Mike Hargrove is the limited number of changes he can make with Ichiro off to the worst start of his career on either side of the Pacific, hitting .185, and Carl Everett hitting .154. Unfortunately, both of them are producing more than Adrian Beltre, now down to .109. "At some point we'll move some guys around," Hargrove said after his club was topped 3-2 by the Boston Red Sox on Sunday. "But it's not as simple as it may appear." For today's 11 a.m. EST Patriots Day start, Willie Bloomquist will replace Jeremy Reed in center field, with left-hander Lenny DiNardo starting for Boston.</i> How is it that Harrgrove manages to not only platoon the wrong player (Reed instead of Everett), but make the wrong platoon substitution as well (Bloomquist instead of Borchard)? Does he have to go to school to mismanage a roster like this? http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/2002934508_marinotes17.html

If the Mariners continue to sputter on offense, there will be changes.

The problem for manager Mike Hargrove is the limited number of changes he can make with Ichiro off to the worst start of his career on either side of the Pacific, hitting .185, and Carl Everett hitting .154.

Unfortunately, both of them are producing more than Adrian Beltre, now down to .109.

“At some point we’ll move some guys around,” Hargrove said after his club was topped 3-2 by the Boston Red Sox on Sunday. “But it’s not as simple as it may appear.”

For today’s 11 a.m. EST Patriots Day start, Willie Bloomquist will replace Jeremy Reed in center field, with left-hander Lenny DiNardo starting for Boston.

How is it that Harrgrove manages to not only platoon the wrong player (Reed instead of Everett), but make the wrong platoon substitution as well (Bloomquist instead of Borchard)? Does he have to go to school to mismanage a roster like this?

]]> By: pensive http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/16/game-13-mariners-at-red-sox/comment-page-4/#comment-95912 pensive Mon, 17 Apr 2006 06:48:26 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/16/game-13-mariners-at-red-sox/#comment-95912 Really if your first pick to start a team were betwen Beltre and Batista You would draft Batista? Really if your first pick to start a team were betwen Beltre and Batista You would draft Batista?

]]> By: davepaisley http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/16/game-13-mariners-at-red-sox/comment-page-4/#comment-95911 davepaisley Mon, 17 Apr 2006 05:55:58 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/16/game-13-mariners-at-red-sox/#comment-95911 #169 - shocker, eh? Also see that Trost "DL" Nixon will be playing in RF tomorrow. Well, I guess at least he knows the angles. #169 – shocker, eh?

Also see that Trost “DL” Nixon will be playing in RF tomorrow. Well, I guess at least he knows the angles.

]]> By: Jim Thomsen http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/16/game-13-mariners-at-red-sox/comment-page-4/#comment-95910 Jim Thomsen Mon, 17 Apr 2006 05:23:43 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/16/game-13-mariners-at-red-sox/#comment-95910 From Ken Rosenthal's Foxsports.com column: "Through Saturday, the Mariners' Richie Sexson was hitting .244, Ichiro Suzuki .200, Carl Everett .154 and Adrian Beltre — gasp! — .119. Catcher Kenji Johjima led the club with a .333 average, but one scout, holding a minority opinion, believes that opposing pitchers eventually will exploit Johjima's holes. "In the end, I don't think he'll hit," the scout says. "I'd be surprised if he has a very good year offensively." From Ken Rosenthal’s Foxsports.com column:

“Through Saturday, the Mariners’ Richie Sexson was hitting .244, Ichiro Suzuki .200, Carl Everett .154 and Adrian Beltre — gasp! — .119. Catcher Kenji Johjima led the club with a .333 average, but one scout, holding a minority opinion, believes that opposing pitchers eventually will exploit Johjima’s holes. “In the end, I don’t think he’ll hit,” the scout says. “I’d be surprised if he has a very good year offensively.”

]]> By: LB http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/16/game-13-mariners-at-red-sox/comment-page-4/#comment-95909 LB Mon, 17 Apr 2006 05:04:52 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/16/game-13-mariners-at-red-sox/#comment-95909 From Monday's <i>Boston Herald</i>: <a href="http://redsox.bostonherald.com/redSox/view.bg?articleid=135441" rel="nofollow"> Varitek’s call: ‘He tagged me’</a> From Monday’s Boston Herald:


Varitek’s call: ‘He tagged me’

]]> By: davepaisley http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/16/game-13-mariners-at-red-sox/comment-page-4/#comment-95908 davepaisley Sun, 16 Apr 2006 23:53:02 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/16/game-13-mariners-at-red-sox/#comment-95908 Heh. During spring training, Batgirl started referring to Batista as Fatista due to his burly, Bosio-esque, never pass the buffet table empty-handed physique. That name quickly morphed into T-Fat, and with his generally studly hitting so far (oh what we'd give for an .800 OPS out of our 3B) that has since morphed into T-Phat. Heck, he's even made <a href="http://www.bat-girl.com/archives/001432.php" rel="nofollow">Boyfriend of the Day</a> once. I'm pretty sure TB isn't going to give up the mojo lightly. Might need to enlist Austin Powers' help. Heh. During spring training, Batgirl started referring to Batista as Fatista due to his burly, Bosio-esque, never pass the buffet table empty-handed physique.

That name quickly morphed into T-Fat, and with his generally studly hitting so far (oh what we’d give for an .800 OPS out of our 3B) that has since morphed into T-Phat. Heck, he’s even made Boyfriend of the Day once.

I’m pretty sure TB isn’t going to give up the mojo lightly. Might need to enlist Austin Powers’ help.

]]> By: Mat http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/16/game-13-mariners-at-red-sox/comment-page-4/#comment-95907 Mat Sun, 16 Apr 2006 23:22:34 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/16/game-13-mariners-at-red-sox/#comment-95907 Good points, Daves. Apparently, if Beltre wants his mojo back, he's going to have to be sneaky about it and steal it while Batista's not looking, rather than risking a confrontation. Good points, Daves. Apparently, if Beltre wants his mojo back, he’s going to have to be sneaky about it and steal it while Batista’s not looking, rather than risking a confrontation.

]]> By: shortbus http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/16/game-13-mariners-at-red-sox/comment-page-4/#comment-95906 shortbus Sun, 16 Apr 2006 23:04:50 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/16/game-13-mariners-at-red-sox/#comment-95906 I'm willing to be philosophical about the game. They were in this game and if not for a bad call would have gone to extra innings. (Be honest...the odds the M's win in extras at Fenway? Not. Good.) Beckett was on his game today and there's no shame in getting shut down by a guy like that. The M's are an entertaining team so far this year and are right up there in their division. Hopefully when they start playing the dregs of the league they'll make some serious headway. I’m willing to be philosophical about the game. They were in this game and if not for a bad call would have gone to extra innings. (Be honest…the odds the M’s win in extras at Fenway? Not. Good.)

Beckett was on his game today and there’s no shame in getting shut down by a guy like that. The M’s are an entertaining team so far this year and are right up there in their division. Hopefully when they start playing the dregs of the league they’ll make some serious headway.

]]> By: dan http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/16/game-13-mariners-at-red-sox/comment-page-4/#comment-95905 dan Sun, 16 Apr 2006 23:03:09 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/04/16/game-13-mariners-at-red-sox/#comment-95905 At what point do we get to harass grover for not moving k-jo up in the order? The best hitter on the team right now is batting 7th. The next 3 best hitters are 2/3/4. In between, what do you have? A 3B who has a .100 BA and a DH spot that is mustering a .624 ops. OPS for #5 hitters on the mariners: .281 Opponents: .813 That's just ridiculous. And beltre is getting up to the plate with runners on (19 of 42 trips) and often in scoring position (16 of 42 trips). The team needs to fix beltre but i'd rather not lose games while he remembers how to use a bat. At what point do we get to harass grover for not moving k-jo up in the order?

The best hitter on the team right now is batting 7th. The next 3 best hitters are 2/3/4. In between, what do you have? A 3B who has a .100 BA and a DH spot that is mustering a .624 ops.

OPS for #5 hitters on the mariners: .281
Opponents: .813

That’s just ridiculous. And beltre is getting up to the plate with runners on (19 of 42 trips) and often in scoring position (16 of 42 trips).

The team needs to fix beltre but i’d rather not lose games while he remembers how to use a bat.

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