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Game 41, Mariners at Athletics
WILLIE TIME!! OH YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!
Moyer v Zito, 7:05.
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That would be awesome if Bloomquist came crashing through the walls all the time.
Derek, I don’t lol very often, but you just earned it.
I’d be all for him playing every day if he did that. Heck, let him hit in the 3-hole, pitch, and manage if he crashes through walls.
“Watching this game makes me thirsty.”
*smash*
“HEYYYYYYYYYYY KIDS!”
“Willy Freaking Bloomquist!”
“Thaaaaaaaaat’s right! Here, have some refreshing Willy Swilly — it’s for kids!”
“Yayyyyy!”
I can’t believe we’re 1/4 of the way through the season and Hargrove is still at the helm when we’re playing this bad. I know the manager doesn’t do all that much but what little he does he seems to do poorly.
I don’t know, he’d need to chase “those kids” out of the Jello Tree and Teach The World to Sing before I’d want to see him hit in the 3-hole or pitch. But manage? Sure. Not like it would get any worse.
Willy Swilly would work like Michael’s Secret Stuff in Space Jam, except the children would instantly posess grit, hustle, and intangibles.
Can you really posess intangibles, dkulich?
I hear enough about how Willie has them, so I suppose you can.
Well, what happens is the kids go out and win the T-ball championship and Willy reveals that the magic was in them all along, and his drink is just flavored sugar water.
Well just like in the movie, they’d need to rely on a walk off homer by Willie to win the T-Ball Championship (perhaps he’d use a super huge bat). This paired with some crazy cartoonish antics would win it for them, but eventually the children and Willy would need to appear before Congress due to the belief that Willy Swilly was a perforance enhancer.
Willy Swilly? Crap..I just spit Mt Dew all over my monitor reading that…
Very nice DMZ..
Well, at least Willie isn’t taking Lopez’s two-hole.
Baby steps.
Uh oh, Jamie busting out the famous “a solo home run is sometimes a rally killer.”
Wish we killed more rallies then.
Damn, Zito’s K pitch on Lopez was nice. Could be a long night.
Well, at least Willie isn’t taking Lopez’s two-hole.
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
On the other hand, maybe not.
Now, a two run HR with a runner on second, that might be a rally killer… but I’d still take two runs.
That’s some quality aggressive baserunning.
Raul’s too nice a guy to plow the catcher, isn’t he?
well thats about as unexciting as a play at thye plate can possibly be
On the replay, he looks like he was out by like… ten, fifteen feet? That could have been off the line and it still would have been a play.
Man, not staying at third was just stupid. He had to be able to see how fast that ball got out fielded.
I think Willie should emerge from the “Honeycomb Hideout” ….
There goes the no-hitter
Ok, just caught up on tivo and what. the. hell. Ibanez?
Bah.
Fifteen minutes past the hour, the game is already depressing. Man.
Under over on what inning we all quit and go to bed… Middle forth is the mark.
Kenji at least did a cool leap frog thing there, gotta be worth something
There was NO reason that Kendall play needed to be THAT close.
Maybe they were attempting to make a case for agressive baserunning on the defensive end
At this point the Thomas signing isn’t looking too good for the A’s.
You know it might not have been all Ibanez’s fault on the play at the plate. Garcia should have stopped him
That’s a pitch Beltre should handle. Man it hurts to watch him pop that up.
I banez should have seen how fast that ball got out of the infield. And should have remembered that he’s not Ichiro.
Man, another line-out double-play. What luck.
Didn’t I once read something, somewhere about only having Moyer start at home? Hm.
Garcia should have seen how fast the ball got out there. It’s his fault
In Network Associates Coliseum over the past three years, Moyer has pitched 36 innings with a 7.25 ERA.
Hmm… a hit, and Crosby holds at third. Intelligent baserunning, anyone? Baserunning 101?
It’s safe to say they are not being fooled by Old Man Moyer.
Oh, sheesh.
Ugly. Just ugly. I may be forced to do homework.
That fat ass umpire needs to get the hell out of the way of a batted ball.
The umpire got in the way of Lopez and he didn’t see the weird hop, that’s just tough luck.
Moyer!
So, yes, obviously, Hargrove had no business putting Moyer out there tonight. A dumb decision, and one that should be another prominent nail in his career coffin.
has Garcia stopped anyone at third this year?
so, I didn’t see it, on the play where Bloomquist didn’t throw out the runner at home, did he run at the ball, his arms waving madly as though semaphoring, and yell …. “Oh, yeaaaaah!”?
This is pretty unwatchable stuff…good night all……
The ball hit the umpire…un-fucking-acceptable.
ok, some sort of exorcism in needed. That, and better grooming of the infield in Oakland.
I don’t need a Willy Swilly right now, I need some Sexson Suds (aka Beer)
I’d even settle for Duff.
It hit the umpire, not the mound, Dave.
Calm down guys!
52: Whiskey will make you forget this game ever existed much quicker than beer.
Nevermind, they figured it out.
#29 dkulich – I’ll get in on that pool, and I’ll take…right about…. NOW… goodnight, everyone.
58. Yeah, looks like the under wins.
Yeah, that was a two run screw up, ump. Thanks. And Jamie will thank you even more when they take that error away from Lopez.
“Beltre was in a rather animated discussion with the hitting coach, Jeff Pentland, while we were at break.”
I be curious.
It completely baffles me that any person can be so unathletic that they have the inability to get out of the way of a slowly hit ground ball.
Looks like there might be leftover bobbleheads. Will 25K show up to the Safe?
Well, the streak is over
Genius!
Down by four! Solution? Baserunning, clearly!
Bah. Morons.
Jeezus.
Well, two throws by the pitcher, two outs. GREAT!
Tonight is one of those nights where I’m feeling myself getting so frustrated that I just want to throw something. Are we on our way to 3 years of this crap? I can’t believe how bad things are and/or have been with our payroll.
#61– “hey, Jeff, you told me that these bats weren’t afraid of the curve ball;I got the cigars, I got the rum, what else do I have to do?”
Ichiro was safe. Jesus. Are the major league umpires on strike, too?
Or is their idea of solidarity to suck as much as replacement umps?
#68– what’s the payroll got to do with anything?
I wish Beltre was hitting like Frank Thomas.
Ichiro was out by a half-step or so.
I just want to point out that if there was not an invalid umpiring second base, the score would be 2-0 right now, and no one would be that frustrated.
72: That’s a sad, sad statement.
I bet Lincoln Inc. are at this very moment reviewing the advance ticket sales for this weekend rather than watching this game.
71. C’mon. We are not the Royals or some small-market team. We actually have the money and have spent the money that has half a chance to put together a competitive team year in and year out. So we can’t use that excuse like they do. We are lousy due to horrible decisions, poor play and management.
OMG OMG SHUT UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
WHOOOOO. Doyle
Pro: a Mariner announcer actually mentioned on-base percentage
Con: Use of Doyle’s actual name, discussion of his injuries, Henderson being an idiot about Doyle
and, yes, Hendu, just as Dave said, it has been 7 operations on Doyle’s knee.
73- No, he was there when Nick was still three inches from the bag. I froze it and frame advanced from both angles.
It’s all Balonghead… I mean Bavasi’s fault. He’s jinxed us
80: Baby steps…I hear that tomorrow Hendu will discover what “OPS” is, and then fail at an attempt to describe it on air.
BTW, KJR is now running a parody of the Mariner Fan radio ads.
“I believe Eddie Guardado is a distant cousin of Bobby Ayala!”
“I spell Richie Sexson with seven ‘K’s!”
Good stuff.
Lincoln etc. are thinking of new ways to put a spin on the character of Ibanez and create fan-friendly confines so that they provide the entertainment necessary to keep their wallets fat. Maybe they can do a Guardado bobblehead with a left arm that is falling off or a Mendoza Row trio of Sexson, Everett and Beltre.
Sureeee he was
so, how’s the home plate umpire doing?
Ignited!!
I think we found a worse third base coach than ours…
oh, and #77– sorry, I thought you meant you couldn’t believe ‘how bad things are with the payroll’, not, ‘how bad things have been, especially with the payroll they have’
Dear Dave:
STFU.
Your Pal,
FDR
That’s a good sign from Sexson, I haven’t seen him drive a ball like that to right field in a long time.
At least Texas lost
Is it sad that I am considering changing the channel to “Quite Frankly with Stephen A. Smith”?
91. No worries. Rough day, rough game. I’m usually pretty patient with this team.
Man, me Sharkies get bounced by Edmonton, and when I flip over to 36, the A’s have already dropped a 4 spot on Moyer. Great sadness.
anything with Stephen A Smith is sad.
94 – since it was to the Yankees, that sucked all the joy out of it. Just as soon they’d won.
Steven A Smith is on par with sports talk radio…regurgitating vapid opinions.
Yeah but if we lose now we don’t move farther out of first
Steven A. Smith is like the Nietzsche of sports writers… he makes claims and backs them up with no fact, but just because he’s Steven A Smith he expects you to believe them.
It’s the Mariners Obese Fan of the Day!
102: I think then, since Nietzche was at least intelligent (regardless of whether or not you agree with his philosophy), then the appropriate analogy is that Stephen A. Smith is the New York Times of sports talking heads.
Seattle Mariners: leading the league in warning track power.
Also, Jamie Moyer has given up four runs, and the broadcasting crew is praising his pitching.
The A’s announcers just explained that the M’s have a good offense and good rotation, but their problem is their defense.
The New York Times doesn’t have much credibility these days.
104. Yeah, that works.
Heh. Willie popping up on 3-0. Heh.
Bloomquist given the green light 3-0? Unbelievable.
willie “greenlight” bloomquist
I hate Hargrove
It makes me feel better that Hargrove is giving Willie a “talking to” for that 3-0 pop-up. It would make me feel even better if Hargrove just played Jeremy Reed instead. After all, Jeremy has shown signs of heating up, so it makes no sense to sit him down.
Looked to me as though Willy was getting an earful from Grover..
I’m sorry. Who gave Willie the greenlight at 3-0?
Figure it out and fire them.
101 – I understand that line of thinking. Makes sense… I just am not even thinking of this team doing anything other than trying to get better this year. Winning the division isn’t even on my radar. I don’t really care whether we finish two games out or forty.
I go to games, and I like to see the team win, so I certainly care if they finish two games out or forty.
Wow, that stadium looks even emptier than the Safe.
I can see the newspaper headline tomorrow:
Panaramic view of the smog, obscuring the full moon. Does Rizz even listen to what Hendu says before he says ‘you’re right’?
The batter could swing, another pearl of wisdom from Buddhendu.
#117. Could it be that when Lincoln heard a Mariners fan say ‘why can’t we be more like the As?’, he thought the goal was to have as few fans as possible actually ATTEND the games?
put a fork in Moyer. I cant concentrate on my homework with the sounds of basebs being loaded emenating from my radio.
people they should have a conference on the mound like they last night with Felix?
“groove it down the plate Moyer.”
At least it wasn’t a grand slam!
I knew it! here comes Chavez! “groove it Jaimie!”
BTW, if Bloomquist goes into a slump, I’ll be calling into KJR saying that it was due to him being yelled at by Hargrove.
Steve Kelley’s lead:
Willie Bloomquist arrived at dawn every day to take his hacks at the Seattle Mariners’ spring training complex in Peoria, Ariz. And every day, he left long after dusk. He swung until his hands blistered, ran until his feet ached, drilled until he was on the verge of dropping. Nobody worked harder alll winter than William Paul Bloomquist.
This will be my year, Willie vowed to himself. This is the year I prove them wrong. This is the year I prove I’m more than a utility player.
And Willie has proven it. He’s stepped in for a faltering Jeremy Reed and given the Mariners their first real centerfielder since Mike Cameron. He’s paid back all those blisters by blistering the ball at a clip well above .300. He’s quietly put together a case for American League Most Valuable Player to rival that of fellow super-utility player Chone Figgins last year.
And yet, all is not well in Marinerville for Willie. For everytime he sees his name penciled into the starting lineup, he wonders why it can’t be written in permanent marker. He wonders why, for all the mindless accolades her receives from the box seats and the pressbox alike, his manager doesn’t sit him down and tell him what he wants to hear. That he’s wanted. That he’s loved. That he is the heart and soul of the Mariner future.
“off the meter chart”?
“Your confidence factor is off of the meter chart”
-Hendu
oh, is Jaimie still pitching? I thought that fork was put in him?
are they going to get Swisher or what?
My head is about to explode. Nice play YuBet.
(plays “Benny Hill” music)
how many runs will the mariners score in the sixth inning on? 5? 6?
Wait, they only needed 1 out, right? Did YuBet just want the extra exercise to run across the diamond and chase the other guy instead of the one a few feet away from him?
I cancelled my digital cable Monday, but they can’t come out to really take away the channels above 29 before next Tuesday. I find myself wishing that they would have come right away.
For us Gameday viewers, how did two runs score on a ball hit to Betancourt? What happened?
135: The ball was thrown into the dugout.
Nice AB Lopez
We aren’t the only team that makes errors! Now, if only the A’s weren’t the only team that scored runs.
#135. Ball thrown into dugout by Lopez, not Betancourt.
I want Fairly doing play-by-play with Hendu doing color.
Now that’d be entertainment.
Man, we suck. Pace in that dugout, Hargrove. Chew them seeds. Really hard to keep this positive. Especially with Everett, our “team leader,” in the on-deck circle.
Is it possible to make a trade in the middle of a game?
First pitch swinging? Beautiful Beltre, beautiful.
142- yeah it is
Somebody take that Willy Swilly away from Kotsay.
I’ve actually been to Shipwreck Beads.
It’s freaking huge.
Funny exchange between Rizzs and Hendu:
Hendu: “Jamie is one of the leaders at trying to pitch 200 innings.”
Rizzs: “That’s his goal every start.”
I paraphrased, and I know what Rizzs meant, but it still sounds funny.
Ill-advised error?
145-looks like they did.
The scoreboard told me to kill the Queen. Must… kill… the… Queen…
150: That’s the funniest thing I’ve seen all week.
heck with this. Lost is on. is this the week Locke loses his shit? cause I just lost mine…
Fruto!
Criminal Minds isn’t on tonight. But Spike is airing “Smokey and the Bandit”… hmmm…
I can’t deal with this. Staying up till one to watch this completely sucks. Lincoln should pay for my Ambian prescription.
I think Rick lies when he says he talked to everybody.
“Hendu, you’d look good in a haircut like that… and a nice leather mini…”
Fruto Pebbles are a part of this nutritious breakfast.
David Locke? He lost his quite a while ago.
Looks like Fruto needs the boot-o.
I just know that Billy Beane wears Prada
mmmmm, fruto pebbles AND kool-ade
Please, Hargrove, let this not become Livingston redux.
yo mama
These lopsided buttkickings by the Athletics should prove to anyone drawing a sober breath that this Mariners team is just not competitive, nor even interesting. This stinks.
In Livingston’s case, Hargrove took a starting pitcher and threw him under the bus, completely taking him out of his routine and trashing his confidence (that being said, Livingston still should have done better). And why the hell is he in the Tacoma bullpen?
Fruto, flyball machine. Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh.
And why the hell is he in the Tacoma bullpen?
“He’s a pitcher.”
“He’s a reliever.”
“A pitcher!”
“Reliever!”
“He’s a pitcher AND a reliever.”
(slap, slap, slap)
Forget it, Jim. It’s the Mariners
Is Lopez cool or what?
#168– and I was going to go with ‘he’s a floor wax AND a dessert topping!’….
Kiko and the Man!
Bases loaded, no outs? Now watch us leave the inning with a big fat 0.
(Don’t look now, but Sexson’s 3-3)
Oh man, that’s gotta hurt for Belt-K.
Geez, Everett. Anybody who hacks that severely should be treated for emphysema.
Looky, a run!
Jeremy Reed, ascending to the mean. Sweet.
That is no run. We just imagine the runs because we fear them.
Glad to see we are bringing out one of the best pitchers in the bullpen in a 7-2 game.
I’m angry that Beltre lost his opportunity to kill the rally.
116 –
I agree, but that’s really the reverse. I like to see Mariners win, but I don’t really care if the Texans lose… at least not enough to overcome my desire to see the Yankees lose always.
If anybody starts to get disappointed with the M’s, take comfort in the fact that you’re not an Angels fan, at least for tonight. 2 hits through 8 innings? Even the Mariners can do better than that…most of the time.
Steve Kelley lead:
It was a simple groundout. A flaccid chopper to short. It could have happened to anybody. But Wednesday night, it happened to Willie Bloomquist. And in the blink of a moment, the Seattle Mariners star saw his star descend over the bleak evening light of Elliott Bay. In his mind, the South Kitsap native saw millions of dollars slip away, saw the hard coin of lockerrom respect dribble away down inside fate’s Bellaggio slot machine.
He may recover from this crushing setback. Or he may drift away into hardball oblivion like so many Dave Cochranes and Jeff Schaefers and Torey Lovullos before him. He knows the risk. He knows this is the game. But until he knows the love of a cold city and a cold manager, the one thing he may never know is peace.
or the Twinkies. Lost with soul sacrifice Santana pitching a 4 hit, 12 k game CG today.
I’m not sure that the idea that the Ms have 12 hits and just 2 runs is a comfort.
Yeah, but any more runs would mean the game wouldnt be over just in time for Conan, making my night less than a total waste
coincidently, Fox has a piece on the 10 worst baseball teams of all time (amazingly, the Ms? Not one of them.)
I know I’m chiming in late, but Jim: your first “Kelley on Bloomquist” posting was one of the funniest things I’ve read all week. Cheers!
seriously..is there anybody who still follows this team?
Blow it up!
I’d much rather head south and watch Tacoma play.
Those last two comments:
You’re new here, aren’t you? Welcome to what it was like rooting for this team in the 1980’s. I didn’t stop rooting for them while they were regularly dumping talent and salary then, and I’m not going to now.
HI I AM A MARINER FAN AND I HAVE COME TO THIS SITE WHICH LARGELY CONCERNS THE MARIRINERS BUT ALSO SOMETIMES WILLY-SWILLY (????) AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE COMMENT THAT NO ONE FOLLOWS THE MARINERS LOL
I come here to discuss the dating habits of blog moderators…..I thought the mariner talk was mostly just icebreaker stuff…
Corco is not a blog moderator. We don’t have blog moderators. Jeez, pay attention.
I come here to make snarky comments for laughs, mainly. And to drive DMZ nuts.
I come here for the always-full cup of coffee.
Can I top that off for you?
thanks! any of those crullers left?
Can you really posess intangibles, dkulich?
Can we ever know?
Though it’s doubtful anyone will read this comment at this point, I’d like to respond to #134. YuBet ran the guy on third down with 2 outs, since it would have been a timing play on the rundown between 1st and 2nd. If that one goes a toss or two too long, the guy from 3rd can score and the run would count. There. I contributed.
200- good point