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Game 49, Orioles at Mariners
Dave · May 25, 2006 at 1:37 pm · Filed Under Mariners
Rodrigo Lopez, who has been terrible, against Gil Meche, the personification of terrible.
145: Eddie just got out of the inning on nine pitches. That’s good.
This is a great spot to use him. It’s still a close game, but you’re behind. It’s not a super-high-leverage spot, but Eddie still has value if used well. It also gives him a chance to work out his issues. This is good.
Brian Rust on
May 25th, 2006 3:43 pm
OK, top of the order, two hitting streaks on the line. Time to do it.
brian_sun on
May 25th, 2006 3:43 pm
151. I am afraid after couple more of these games, Hargrove will put Eddie G back to the closer spot.
Barking Pumpkin on
May 25th, 2006 3:44 pm
rally caps,anyone??
loki on
May 25th, 2006 3:44 pm
Rats.
DiamondDave on
May 25th, 2006 3:44 pm
oh well, it was 18 games of fun. Not bad…unless we get Extras!
I wonder what it would take to make Hargrove realise that a player is really struggling at the plate. Reed has better power numbers than both Beltre and Sexson, and who gets platooned? Or is do they have pictures of Hargrove that Bobby Ayala had of Pinella?
unkrusty on
May 25th, 2006 3:45 pm
unkrusty, how is Petagine supposed to make the most of it when getting one at-bat a week?
I guess that was kind of part of my point. How do we know about this guy with such limited opportunity? However, even in the limited opportunities he hasn’t had much success, and because each of his opportunities has been pretty high profile (always baserunners on when he bats), he seems like a greater failure than he really is.
DiamondDave on
May 25th, 2006 3:45 pm
hey, I just noticed on ESPN that J Lopez is batting and J Lopez is catching 😉
151: That’s a good thing, assuming he earned it. That means the Mariners are carrying four lights-out relievers instead of three.
Soriano, Putz and Sherrill have all been terrific this year. Extra bullpen arms aren’t a problem. Then we have a strength to trade from, and one that teams value at the deadline.
So is MLB Gameday. Maybe a fight broke out in the M’s dugout.
Barking Pumpkin on
May 25th, 2006 3:54 pm
lights out..
well,what a lousy game from our offfense..
better luck next time??
Happy trails to y’all,until we meet again! I’m taking a friend from Pittsburgh to see the local Fiorentina baseball team on saturday.
Heck,they cannot be that much worse than the pirates,can they??
(heh)
It’s not like we don’t like guys with that skill set. We run Carl out there every day.
ChrisK on
May 25th, 2006 4:35 pm
Actually, the M’s have been giving playing time to many bench players in recent years – only their names were Speizio, Cirillo, Aurilia, Valdez, Bocachica, Olivo, Bloomquist…
Abodacious on
May 25th, 2006 5:49 pm
Off Topic: [deleted, off-topic]
argh on
May 25th, 2006 6:03 pm
Came home looking forward to a nice Tivoed game to watch and sure enough: no broadcast. Then the MLB archive feed broke in the first inning. Rather than fool with it I peeked to see the outcome — and what an inspired choice that turned out to be! Even with fast forward I could have wasted an hour and a half of my life on tedious mediocrity ending in a loss but was saved at the last minute. Thank you television and MLB gods.
BelaXadux on
May 25th, 2006 7:42 pm
Eddie Guapo had a good day, came in and threw strikes. He’s approaching marketability. Don’t close him again, just polish him up a little.
Julio Mateo is a perfectly adequate reliever for set-up innings when his arm is sound. He overwhelms no one, and shouldn’t be overused, but 25 teams in the majors at least could use a guy like him. Nobody _wants_ to trade for a guy like that, it’s just that when they have him he’s useful enough that his number keeps getting called out of the pen. Still can’t trade him for what he’s worth, unless as part of a package.
Gil Meche has always had good stuff, borderline location. With a few games where he’s had good location, we see what his package could be. He’s still pitch inefficient, still struggles early. Awhile back, Dave made a throw-away comparison for Meche which, to me, remains excellent: Brett Tomko. Tomko actually _had_ a number of games like the last two we’ve just seen from Meche, both here, and in SF. 2-4 games a year like that. The rest of the time, he was a frozen rope vendor. So I’m all for moving Meche in a deal. There are plenty of teams which need starting pitching. Last year, when Gil was doing his “My arm hurts . . . I think. At least, it hurts when I think” routine, of course he was untradeable. Now, it’s a different question. They only thing I ask is, this time trade for an established, big league player. I’ve had enough of prospects imploding in clouds of dust for now.
145: Eddie just got out of the inning on nine pitches. That’s good.
This is a great spot to use him. It’s still a close game, but you’re behind. It’s not a super-high-leverage spot, but Eddie still has value if used well. It also gives him a chance to work out his issues. This is good.
OK, top of the order, two hitting streaks on the line. Time to do it.
151. I am afraid after couple more of these games, Hargrove will put Eddie G back to the closer spot.
rally caps,anyone??
Rats.
oh well, it was 18 games of fun. Not bad…unless we get Extras!
And the streak ends at seventeen.
..maybe not…
I wonder what it would take to make Hargrove realise that a player is really struggling at the plate. Reed has better power numbers than both Beltre and Sexson, and who gets platooned? Or is do they have pictures of Hargrove that Bobby Ayala had of Pinella?
unkrusty, how is Petagine supposed to make the most of it when getting one at-bat a week?
I guess that was kind of part of my point. How do we know about this guy with such limited opportunity? However, even in the limited opportunities he hasn’t had much success, and because each of his opportunities has been pretty high profile (always baserunners on when he bats), he seems like a greater failure than he really is.
hey, I just noticed on ESPN that J Lopez is batting and J Lopez is catching 😉
151: That’s a good thing, assuming he earned it. That means the Mariners are carrying four lights-out relievers instead of three.
Soriano, Putz and Sherrill have all been terrific this year. Extra bullpen arms aren’t a problem. Then we have a strength to trade from, and one that teams value at the deadline.
Actually that’s wrong Hernadez is catching, so they don’t have a DH now.
Hm, anyone know what is happening with the game? GameCast is stuck on Ball 1 to Jose.
*sigh*
So is MLB Gameday. Maybe a fight broke out in the M’s dugout.
lights out..
well,what a lousy game from our offfense..
better luck next time??
Happy trails to y’all,until we meet again! I’m taking a friend from Pittsburgh to see the local Fiorentina baseball team on saturday.
Heck,they cannot be that much worse than the pirates,can they??
(heh)
I’m spending next week in Toronto, so I bought tickets to 3 Red Sox games.
Somehow, I’m not expecting a 2 hit shutout by either team.
The M’s just got beat by John Halama and Rodrigo Lopez in the same series…
and now off to see Santana.
Petagine, 18 ABs in 17 games, and had 6 days off before his appearance on tuesday.
re Petagine, can anyone say Greg Colbrunn? Oh wait, he got hurt before we really had a chance to (mis)use him, right?
The Mariners are absolute death to bench players – unless you’re WFB. Why anyone would willingly sign here as a back-up is beyond me.
Greg Colbrunn
Quentin McCracken
Roberto Petagine
Matt Lawton
Dave Hansen
All of these guys were signed, talked up by management, and then left to rot by Melvin or Hargrove.
It’s not like we don’t like guys with that skill set. We run Carl out there every day.
Actually, the M’s have been giving playing time to many bench players in recent years – only their names were Speizio, Cirillo, Aurilia, Valdez, Bocachica, Olivo, Bloomquist…
Off Topic: [deleted, off-topic]
Came home looking forward to a nice Tivoed game to watch and sure enough: no broadcast. Then the MLB archive feed broke in the first inning. Rather than fool with it I peeked to see the outcome — and what an inspired choice that turned out to be! Even with fast forward I could have wasted an hour and a half of my life on tedious mediocrity ending in a loss but was saved at the last minute. Thank you television and MLB gods.
Eddie Guapo had a good day, came in and threw strikes. He’s approaching marketability. Don’t close him again, just polish him up a little.
Julio Mateo is a perfectly adequate reliever for set-up innings when his arm is sound. He overwhelms no one, and shouldn’t be overused, but 25 teams in the majors at least could use a guy like him. Nobody _wants_ to trade for a guy like that, it’s just that when they have him he’s useful enough that his number keeps getting called out of the pen. Still can’t trade him for what he’s worth, unless as part of a package.
Gil Meche has always had good stuff, borderline location. With a few games where he’s had good location, we see what his package could be. He’s still pitch inefficient, still struggles early. Awhile back, Dave made a throw-away comparison for Meche which, to me, remains excellent: Brett Tomko. Tomko actually _had_ a number of games like the last two we’ve just seen from Meche, both here, and in SF. 2-4 games a year like that. The rest of the time, he was a frozen rope vendor. So I’m all for moving Meche in a deal. There are plenty of teams which need starting pitching. Last year, when Gil was doing his “My arm hurts . . . I think. At least, it hurts when I think” routine, of course he was untradeable. Now, it’s a different question. They only thing I ask is, this time trade for an established, big league player. I’ve had enough of prospects imploding in clouds of dust for now.