Game 61, Twins at Mariners
RHP Boof Bonser v LHP Jamie Moyer. 7:05.
At the request of several of our valued readers (including Laurie’s birthday request), supervision returns for this thread. Since the inception of comments, we often wrestle with how to encourage quality discussion and not tamper too much. Insult posts, off-topic stuff like people dropping by to remind Dave he wasn’t enthusiastic enough about Papelbon in a Beltre discussion… most of the choices are pretty easy.
But what about grammar, and spelling, and people who always type “Mariner’s”? We (and I’m probably more guilty of this than anyone) arbitrarily will reach into threads to nuke comments, and you get to see the dreaded []s. The reaction by the commenter is almost always immediate and strongly negative, and often means their follow-up comment gets [deleted, namecalling]. However, not working to maintain a decent signal/noise ratio and halfway worthwhile tone means chaos and horrible comment threads, and the people who contribute the most to the level of conversation are quickly turned off and leave.
What to do? Well, if no one out there is willing to, say, make an extremely generous cash donation to the “Hire a USSM Author to work on this full time” fund, it’s going to remain arbitrary and unfair. Sometimes making two errors that catch someone’s eye will get someone to swoop down, and sometimes you might get away with it. A comment that contributes substantially will almost certainly get a lot more leeway than PINIERO IS TEH SUX0R!!!oneone!! In general, game threads have much looser standards than normal comment threads.
Anyway. Boof’s his real name. I bet that gets mentioned on the broadcast.
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Very pleased to hear moderation will be in effect again. Since I just moved and the cable guy won’t be here to hook me up til Tuesday of next week, my options for following games are internet or actually going to Safeco (as I did a couple nights ago).
Technically, if moderation was in effect, all comments would go into moderation and then have to be approved. This is more like… there’s a lifeguard on duty.
And he has a short temper and he’s armed.
I’m usually not drowning, but waving.
so, how does Moyer do against a team more patient than the Royals?
Supervision, then. Anything to keep the threads clean. After coming back from the game Tuesday night, I’d hoped to post some impressions of what I’d seen in person, but the thread had been locked (as well it should have been, the way it had gone).
And I’ll shut up about thread quality now. Think C-Rex was upset today to find out that Tim Eyman couldn’t get enough signatures for his anti-gay initiative?
Thanks for the moderation work you do. I have attempted to look at game threads recently to see what was happening in the game and well…
What’s a “SUXOR?”
hmm, Niehaus thinks ‘Boof’ is an enigmatic name.
you know, Boof wasn’t born with that name….
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So how seriously do we take Jamie’s complete-game two-hitter against the Royals? How would that translate against, say, the Twins? How much of a discount would that performance take if he had been pitching against a real bludgeoning lineup like the Yankees or Red Sox or Indians?
As someone who occasionally thought moderation went too far (though one who always thought the bracket comments were funny), I have to say, after the last couple unsupervised game threads, I’m a complete believer. Keep up the good work.
Anything to keep people from posting huge long strings that break the tables and make everyone side-scroll to see what people are saying.
Are you guys taking volunteers for thead chaperones? I’m probably one of the idiots that needs chaperonage but I’d do it for free.
And he has a short temper and he’s armed.
And he may be drinking Tequila. Then again, it might be cough syrup. Or nothing at all.
[Pineiro]
What about cases where the moderator misspells words, e.g. the title of this game thread?
If Meche is a SUXOR, can he be deleted from the 25 man roster? Please? Or put him into the moderation queue (mop-up role)
I can’t believe the season is at game 61. Is it still early in the season?
17 – If you’re Hargrove, you’re sure hoping it is.
17 – I think we’re officially “in the duldrums” (sp?) of the season.
Prediction- 4-1 Twinkies. Hargrove will have Lopez bunt at least twice.
Anybody want to inject that Jason Grimsley kid into the bullpen?
19 – It’s doldrums.
Anybody want to inject that Jason Grimsley kid into the bullpen?
[fawlty]Don’t mention the hormones![/fawlty]
[capitalization]
Prediction: Hargrove is so obsessed with bunting that, in the blindness of his zeal, he’ll order the Twins’ No. 3 hitter to lay a few down.
Derek’s clearly serious, folks. He deleted one of my posts! (See #9 above.)
When he starts having Sexson bunt, do we assume he’s reached the limits of his insanity or has finally given up on his “cleanup” hitter?
Prediction: After seven pitches and no outs, Jamie isn’t going nine tonight.
I like watching Jose do anything with a bat, what do you think of his chances at the allstar game? They seem less than 50-50 to me although none of the AL 2bs seem to be having particularly good years. I have really enjoyed watching the Mariners middle infielders this year. I know we have some great infield prospects especially at SS, but what do you think of Yung-Chi Chen at 2b? He is at High Class A Inland Empire and showed up on the baseball america prospect hot sheet that just came out.
Why did Johjima pick up and throw a ball that was clearly foul?
The Mariners are going to take this game tonight. Big time!
Deserving M’s All-Stars: Ichiro, Lopez, Putz.
Oh, that’s embarassing, Raul.
Way to go, Raul “Feet Of Concrete” Ibanez. Poor read, poor jump.
Surprising statistic: The M’s starting lineup has more combined home runs than the Twins: 47 to 28.
Can’t say that about many M’s opponents!
OK, what the heck is that all about. The two worst fielding plays in a long time, back to back.
Oh good grief, guys.
Our defense is better at the spectular than the routine sometimes.
Wow, Felix’s first-inning woes are contagious.
Niiiiiice. So far, for both teams, enough ugliness to fill an entire series in less than one half-inning.
Anybody following the out-of-town games? Now Texas is taking its turn at making KC look like a team full of Cy Young contenders…
If the rundown had been well-executed, the runner would have remained at first and not scored on the GR double.
JACKTASTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ah, Ichiro!
Ichiro!
And I’m stuck watching the Jays!
And remember, just so you all know, Ichiro could hit 70 homers a year if he chose to.
(Remember when everybody believed that?)
Wow the ball really IS carrying tonight.
That was a RIDICULOUS strike three call.
41. Be careful you have several infractions including capitalization, excessive punctuation, and made up words.
A Beltre walk? Better feast now while the buzzards are circling ….
Well, it SHOULD have been a walk. Jeez.
SEXSON!
Holy Smokes!!!
Like I said… really carrying.
Sexson! Only about 10 homers behind where he should be at this point in the season.
Home runs? Are these the Mariners?
53. Watch out! You have an incomplete sentence.
I’m really liking this Bonser fellow now, and not just because of his name.
And the irony is that I work as a newspaper editor.
On the radio, Rizzs (ugh) said Sexson was using an aluminum bat in batting practice and hit a dinger to left that went out of Safeco. Since that’s where his in-game homer went (just not as far) perhaps he should do that before every game (if he does I may start hanging out on Royal Brougham before the games).
Memo to Sosa: see, you can have fun in batting practice without any risk of mixing up your bats…
No reason for that, bigred.
Do we still have the same official scorer we used to? The one who reads the newspaper during the game? Because he’s terrible.
47 – Come on, don’t be that guy.
This offense is taking away my bitterness at Beltre’s KO… that was one of the worst ball/strikes calls I can remember. It was about an inch from hitting his nipples.
Sorry Jim. I don’t mean to offend. I just thought it was funny that my first post was edited for capitalization, when I really think it was for being a reckless M’s fan.
Ya know, Jesus fully supports the idea of moderation…
That being said, I certainly pray the M’s will become greedy defensively and gluttoness offensively….
Raul’s on a roll tonight.
#61. No offense. I’m pretty embarrassed at my numerous typos. But that’s the price of typing in immediate-reaction mode … often in an emotional state.
It’s funny, considering how much time I spend at work distinguishing between “over” and “more than,” changing sentences broken by semicolons into two new sentences, repairing stories to reflect Associated Press style on numerals (5 miles but five strikeouts) and deal with thousands of floating bits of excruciating usage minutiae in the course of an evening shift on the news desk.
Here, I get to get back to my white-trashy roots.
What do you say we yank Moyer and let Putz get the 24-out save?
65. Come on man! Moyer’s a workhorse that get is the most out of what he’s got. I’d rather watch him pitch than Putz anyday.
Time to look at Jacque Jones’ stats: .307/.346/.547, 11 HR
Now imagine him in left, Ibanez DHing, and Carl Everett sitting at home and beating his kids because they drew a picture of a dinosaur.
Ah, what could have been.
Valle gets yellow carded for screwing up the Yellowstone cliche.
Could have won in Yellowstone, Val? Wouldn’t it be *easier* to win there, since the park’s so large?
Also, on Jones vs. Everett — Jones is hitting LHP (that’s his bad side) as well as Everett is hitting RHP (that’s his good side). (Quick-n-dirty OPS-wise, at least.)
“That is his name,” says Dave.
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There’s no fences, if you get one past Raul the ball will roll forever. It’d be a tough place to pitch.
The irony about Jacque Jones’ performance is that he’s hitting MUCH better away from Wrigley Field.
Home: .269/.321/.526
Road: .340/.368/.570
The Twins traded Pierzynski to the Giants?
For who?
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Ask a Giants fan this and they’ll break into tears.
Bonser, Liriano, Nathan. Robbery.
66: I was just kidding; I knew Moyer would get the three popouts all along.
Still, when your “watching” the game on Gameday, it isn’t that much funner staring at Moyer’s face than it is Putz’. The most fun thing is to see “in play, out(s) recorded,” and with Putz pitching, you see a lot of that.
sato! powered by yunker!
Sabean’s Folly.
The best part is that they dumped A.J. for Mike Matheny.
Recall from reading Foucault: Prohibitions incite transgressions and ghostly returns.
YUNI!
no way! Yubet!
Woo-Hoo!
Betty!!!
Yu-Bet!!!!! YOU BET!!!!
Very nice Mizter Yubet!
BEEEETTTYYY!!!!!!! YOOHOO!!!!!!!!
#3 for #3!
The good news, Torrealba had a HR and 5 RBI for Colorado tonight. The bad news, it raised his average to 154.
Yuni & Ichi: inverted back to backs.
There used to be a Giants’ blog called Waiting for Boof. It has since moved on.
http://www.giantsblog.blogspot.com/
Whoops, my emote got read as an html tag. Anyway, these homers are very unmarinerlike. Where’s the small ball? Where are the several singles scattered feebly across multiple innings?
That was a very pleasant surprise.
the Boofster isn’t as sharp tonight.
aaaaaand Rizzs’ infamous ‘Moyer 4-run lead’ stat arrives at 7:54 pm.
#72– he is having just unending troubles in Chicago…. “It has been a tough first two months at Wrigley Field for new Cubs right fielder Jacque Jones. He has been booed brutally and even had a ball whiz past his head, courtesy of a drunken fan in the bleachers. But the latest incident has gone even further, involving his mother and fans in the family section behind home plate.
In Friday’s game, Jones lost a ball in the sun during the seventh inning that ruined Carlos Zambrano’s no-hitter. In the bottom of the inning, Jones was called out on strikes and a fan allegedly yelled, “The sun must have gotten in your eyes.” According to witnesses, the fan was berated by a finger-wagging woman wearing a replica of Jones’ No. 11 jersey. It turns out the woman was Jones’ mother, Linda Faulk, sitting two rows away. Jones admitted the incident happened but was reluctant to go into details.
“She took care of it,” he said. “She took care of it how every parent should.”"
Boof = Bucky?
Will anyone follow a player that is half-way decent if he has a krazy/kookie nickname?
So, we have home runs by Ichiro, Sexson, Betancourt…
What’s the likelihood of me hearing a HR hit from my beloved Beltre tonight?
Any game thread where you can discuss homeruns and prostate issues while remaining on topic is okay in my book.
Shoulda bunted. Then the out would have been productive.
That would, of course, be ‘home runs’.
When’s the last time we had 3 HRs by the second inning? Or three home runs in a whole game?
so, Jason, what is the best way to prepare Boof? a nice bourguignon?
Why would Mauer be distracted when he’s at home in Minnesota?
Where is he from, anyway?
not gritty, Reed. not gritty at all.
Way Jamie’s pitching here, we’re going to need 3 homers every 2 innings.
We need to give our foul poles colorful names:
“The Perconte Pole”
“The Spiro Spire”
“The Johnson Rod”
Yes Valle, because he can hit a double is exactly why FSU wanted Mauer as a QB.
Moyer is doing his best Gil Meche impersonation.
Willie would have had that one.
No way man! Jaimie’s got a four run lead. You can put this game in the books.
Mauer has to score on that play.
106: 5-2 is a three run lead.
Another foul-pole name:
“Too Hilly for Willie”
Bases jacked and no one out.
No me gusta.
Maybe tonight’s the night for Woods’ monthly appearence.
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That’d be a great selling point for a trade to Houston.
Oh shoot! My bad. I redact that statement until Ibanez scores in the borrom of the 3rd.
It’s gong to be fun watching Moyer get out of this one…
Also I meant “bottom” not “borrom”
Unaggressive baserunning, folks.
I like it when the oppositing runs the bases like we do. It makes preventing runs so darned easy!!!
Atta Boy Jamie.
Nice to see Raul show of that legendary gun out in left field!!!
(just kidding, people….)
#98– couldn’t tell you, but Red has helpfully pointed out that the Mariners have had 3 three home run games this year and won all of them….
hmm, doing a quick search on Dreckman, up came a photo (”Home plate umpire Bruce Dreckman #1 listens as manager Dusty Baker of the Chicago Cubs expresses his displeasure over a call in the 9th”) and a game report for an Indians/Sox game where Schilling & Westbrook gave up vast quatities of walks, and then runs due to Dreckman’s strike zone.
116 -edit- “opposition”
Moyer must be working on decreasing his ERA with runners on base.
a crack from Rotoworld this afternoon: “The Nationals hired Davey Johnson on Wednesday as a special consultant to GM Jim Bowden.
The 63-year-old Johnson, who served as the bench coach for Team USA in the WBC, probably won’t be a candidate to replace Frank Robinson in the dugout for the Nationals, though he likely would still be one of the game’s better managers if he had the desire. Instead, it looks like he’ll be in change of preventing Bowden from blundering too badly before he’s eventually removed from his role as Washington’s GM. “
That play by Beltre was incredible. I can’t believe how much he got on that throw.
[Rizzs]
Unbelievable throw from Beltre. Wow.
WOWWWWWWWWW!!!!!
This, folks, is why we need to stop focusing so much on Beltre’s offensive struggles. Defense matters a LOT.
let me guess…. he said holy smokes?
Beltre is pretty amazing to watch at third, that bobble in the first notwithstanding.
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That’s really important. When a team decides to sign an aging declining has-been to an expensive contract; it helps if they can placate the public with a (half-assed) reason why its a good idea.
Pickin’ Machine!!!!
The Pickin’ machine has been excellent for Cincy…
Man. I’m glad Ford didn’t play last night. That guy has our number. It seemed like he had HUGE hits when we played them in Minn.
That Mauer kid is OK too. Jeez.
What’s Moyer’s record with 1-run leads?
I think we’re about to find out what his record is with a no-run lead ….
So much for gaining on first place today; Texas scored 4 in the ninth to win it.
119. Good work, msb.
When the Mariners are obviously having a problem getting someone out, why don’t they just walk them? I’ve always wondered that with players like Palmiero, Vlad and now Mauer.
10 hits in 3.2 innings. Good Grief.
Will anyone follow a player that is half-way decent if he has a krazy/kookie nickname?
Not anyone. But someone. And they’ve always got a webpage, at least.
102 OK. It’s the fourth inning now. Time for our second round of HR’s.
Jim Thom in #103, I’m in for “The Johnson Rod.” A sporting facility _should_ have a structure so named.
YuBet: that’s the kind of HR I’m hoping to see more of from him as he matures. He’s got a line drive swing, but enough pop that if he pulls down the line he can get some cheap dingers, and reach double figures most years as a result. Mark McLemore was very good at that from both sides of the plate, it’s where he got almost all his HRs.
anyone notice that mlb.com had JUAN CASTRO as the player to watch in today’s game in their preview?
the Twins game thread has 14 comments, btw.
http://www.twinkietown.com/story/2006/6/7/21298/98442#commenttop
141: With good reason, too. After all, after that home run, he might try to kidnap Betancourt and bring him back to Cuba.
It chaps my hide to see Moyer denigrated as a “has-been.” Mostly for emotional reasons, but sheesh. His ERA’s still under 4, his WHIP isn’t extraordinarily high, and he still wins games.
Dear God, Niehaus just said “the Boofer.”
Gotta give it up to Beltre for getting the walk so they have to pitch to our RBI machine with the sacks full.
Wow, never mind! Disregard 143. I was thinking of Fidel Castro.
time for some insurance runs!
C’mon Jose!
138: That’s ridiculous.
wait a minute- Lopez walked in this game?
that’s even more amazing then the three home runs being hit!
146 Very funny!
thank you, Lauren
See? Should have watched Juan Castro.
Entering the night, Ford was 6/19 with a HR and 3 RBI against the Mariners on the season.
you’re right Lauren!
that play right there is the turning point!
I’m glad somebody’s willing to stick up for us geezers.
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Sorry.
It was more of a general thing… I was actually refering to Washburn.
Ever since we declared Lopez the best second-baseman in baseball a few weeks ago, he seems to have gone downhill a touch.
…but now that you mention it, Moyer is a has-been.
1-2-3 inning?
nice……..
Jaimie Moyer “has been” a rock this year!
I wish there was a device that would electronically treat Valle’s voices and make it sound like Patrick Stewart’s. Nails against a chalkboard!!!
#149– btw, pre-game there was a report that the Kelloggs folks have finally gotten in touch with Coco….
Dave and Rick really need to exchange notes durning the switch, so we don’t have to hear the exact same things that Dave talked about. It’s a lack of planning and prep to let this stuff happen game after game.
To sue him??
Apparently ‘Boof’ was this guy’s childhood nickname which is why he changed it. I’d change to my childhood nickname, too, but ‘Dammitson’ just doesn’t have the panache I’m looking for.
#164– oh well, at least Valle & Rizzs did check in with each other, so they could wear thyose nice matching blues….
Now that Rizzs got the formality of the origins of the name “Boof” we can get to the serious stuff…..Like how he grew up on the south side of Chicago.
The righties are having good success against Moyer this year (.277/.326/.474). LHBs, who usually hit him hard, have a patry .287 OBP v. Jamie. I hope I’m wrong, but, the left handers are going to catch up and hit their historical averages off him, and when that happens, the opposition will be hitting (.270/.330/.470) across the board, and it won’t be pretty.
so, think they’ll manage to pry Rivera off the bench to catch the afternoon game following a night game?
169. You’re wrong.
164: The obvious solution is to just not switch halfway through the game. Dave can’t call most of the pitches anymore, so he should be on the radio. Fairly should be the permanent TV play-by-play guy. If there are no alernatives, then Valle and Hendu can be the two color commentators. I know that some of you are wondering about it, and the answer is: no, I didn’t forget about Rizzs.
167- Yeah they’re matching tonight. Also something to look for is when they do the switch, and they show Rick and Valle on TV, Rick always adjust’s his headset, the right side. Well, the left if your watching on TV.
Oi, and now again we get to hear how the Twin’s Hijacked the Giants…again.
Who did the twins get for AJ?
OH, thanks Rizzs.
Its time for the mute button
this is when the volume goes down on the tv, and comes back up on the radio.
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About which part?
Boof’s at 102 pitches. Shouldn’t be around much longer.
And hey, that’s his real name! (If you hadn’t heard . . . .)
If it wasn’t for the fact, I’m in BFE Southern Oregon, I’d more than likely go to the radio broadcast. I have gameday audio, but the time on that lags by a few seconds or more and would drive me even more nuts than I am already.
I’m picky..I know. I guess it comes with being in the broadcast industry.
175-
see 73
177. The part you hoped you were.
181
That’s still open to interpretation.
I’d like to see (or figure out how to get for myself) some statistics on Moyer’s ERA after he gets into trouble (not sure how that would be defined, though. Aren’t certain situations already defined as stressful for pitchers? Having runners in scoring position, maybe?) At any rate, as a viewer I rarely feel that Moyer’s going to completely lose it, like we’ve seen many of our pitchers do this year.
In this inning, for instance, Moyer coming back in would have made me less nervous than Green taking over. Though (not to jinx him) he’s doing nicely so far.
Two K’s by Sean Green. Suspiciously good. Makes me nervous.
182. See 61 for partial explanation
Dave wuvs Joe Mauer
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They won’t give you ERA’s (that’d be too unrealyable) but if you go to foxsports.com or ESPN, they will have splits on the player cards that tell what the league as a whole hits v. a certain pitcher with RISP etc. This is only useful if you 1) Believe that pitching with RISP is a skill, or 2) You are trying to determine how lucky a pitcher has been.
Does Green’s fastball always have that much downward movement? He looked nasty on those first two.
He seems to be regressing to the mean very nicely.
So, Joh leads the Majors in innings caught. How long do you think it’ll be before his legs fall off?
I’m no fan of Rivera, but for the love of god at this rate, Joh is going to be worthless in the second half.
Flame me for my spelling if you must…
Bucky Jacobsen commercial still on TV why?
Sweet, Willie Eyre!
I was just looking through Adrian Beltre’ splits versus Twins pitchers, and AB is 1-for-1 with a double against Eyre.
192 – ‘Cause that adorable little face can still sell the chicks what they need.
Ichiro is good.
I don’t know about Bucky, but Ichiro can sell me whatever I need. Especially if what I need is base hits.
Sorry Dave, but Ichiro will never reach “Mr. Rose.”
I’m thinking we should keep Beltre.
193. Make that 2-2 with 2 doubles.
A-Drain causin’ some pain!
Have we yet reached the point where people can stop complaining about Beltre EVERY time he steps up to the plate?
He sue seems to like batting second, doesn’t he?
Well not with that attitude he won’t.
Huh, Beltre’s earning his pay tonight. Might have a ways to go to make up for the previous 60 games, though.
Heh. My day job as a lawyer is showing through. ‘Sure seems to like’ it should have been.
Denny Reyes looks like he is the heir apparent to the nickname “El Guapo.” Anything to keep the memory of Rich Garces alive, I suppose.
Um, Raul, take some pitches, OK buddy?
ooh ooh ooh!
did I call that double by Beltre or what?
203: I think you mean “make up for the previous 222 games.”
What I don’t get about that Coors Light commerical, is why a woman that hot would be with a doofus like that. Can’t afford something better than Coors? A Bud Light, maybe? At least it’s not Busch. Wouldn’t it be funier if he used to Coors can as a metaphor for thier relationship, and was *sucessful* like a modern day, cheap beer drinking, John Donne? Anyway, my $0.02. Reyes walks people be patient, kids.
(Please no Johnson’s Pole references).
Rauuuuuuuuuuuuullllllllllllllllllllllll!
Oh, my. That was pretty.
holy smokes!
this is the most fun I’ve had listening to a Mariners game since… since….
How many “U”s should i spell Raul(!) with?
you know, I like being ahead!
I am just pleasantly stunned by how well Ibanez has aged at a time when all his comparables went into decline. I still can’t believe we’ll get two good years out of his contract extension, but as things stand now, he was well-spent money at a time when most of us were wondering what the hell the M’s were thinking. Even if you can’t play defense worth a damn, Raul, good on you.
Richie should get that triple to complete the cycle no problem!
I believe that would be “Raul(Interrobang)”
“Richie is just a triple away from the cycle.”
That’s like saying someone is going to win a marathon when they lead after the first mile.
What stunning confluence of events would have to take place for Richie to get the triple he needs for the cycle?
#186– Dave wuvs Joe Mauer
so do I.
hey! Jamie has a 4-run lead, and you know what that means….
Unless there’s a gopher hole out by the wall, Sexson ain’t gettin’ a triple tonight.
#218– well, remember what happened when Dan got that inside-the-perker in the Kingdome?
Here’s an odd stat… while Big Sexy has the second-most strikeouts of anyone in the league, Betancourt is tied for the third-fewest (16) among AL players with 200 or more plate appearances.
Johjima’s also down there with only 19 strikeouts.
And hey! Wilkerson’s passed Sexson for the strikeout title. Celebrate good times! Come on!
218, line shot splitting the RF gap, Kubel and Hunter both tear their ACLs…
Nilokerus: Awesome. I had never heard of the interrobang til just now! Thanks.
Nice, I just get in and see that we’re winning.
218.- It’s times like these that we need a random metal bench in the outfield like they have in SF.
Nights like tonight you think, “Gosh, this team isn’t that far from being pretty decent.”
And then there are those other nights.
He’s tough to watch, I just wish it seemed like he knew what he was doing.
The game he’s played all his life and he used to be good at.
Yep, its pretty much the best thing ever. Ever?!
Thanks to my homepage, wiki random page.
Adrian Beltre got the number one Web Gem on BBTN.
So, if you magically replaced Big Sexy and Beltre with league-average corner guys, would the offense be pretty good? I mean, they’ll come around, etc., but at this point what would that do to the offense?
I only ask this, of course, since I have nothing pithy to add about the interrobang.
Re. #226:
The Seattle Mariners success during the past week is a façade, as the neither the Kansas City Royals nor the Minnesota Twins are top-notch competition.
Anyway, in lieu of a scrub like Rene Rivera (.130/.167/.348) as the Seattle Mariners backup catcher, the M’s should attempt to acquire a solid veteran such as Mike Redmond (.368/.383/.456); Redmond is one of the most underrated players in Major League Baseball.
More foul pole names:
“The Yellow Rose Of Sexson”
“The Piniella Antenna”
“The Fickle Finger”
“The Wind Wand”
“Franklin’s Folly”
“The Ichi-Rope”
Keep your eye on JUAN CASTRO!
I still haven’t figured out why it was so weird for him to be featured. Just because there are better choices?
the Twins pulled a heist on the Giants?
how’d they do that, again?
Just call it the Yuniesky Pole. Rhymes with Pesky, making it easy to remember.
Dammit slicky, it’s clear that people keep falling into your traps, so quit setting ‘em already, wouldja?
232: Ugh. Those foul pole names are Bermanesque, and that bothers me.
We better bring in Guardado now so Putz can get the save.
235
WE HAVE A WINNER!
Think Sherill can pull this off?
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Sorry Lauren, it’s my snide remarks to whatever I hear Rizz & Red say on the radio at the time.
I’m actually writing a paper for school, but need this window open to dump my internal comments into regarding the game….
#227. huh?
#231. wonder what Rivera would be hitting if he had more than 9 games under his belt this season….
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Me too! I’ve almost reached the minimum length requirement. It’s due in about 14 hours. Will I sleep more than four hours tonight? Stay tuned.
At least hargrove is using the pen somewhat correctly.
Is the management of our bullpen really as bad as it’s seemed recently?
just picked up Soriano for my fb team.
*phew* no grand slam. at least not to Hunter.
NICE.
Thanks Torii!
Rafael looks *so* cool out there.
shit
ugh
Thanks for the Jinx 245!
Ooooh. That was an owie.
I blame 245.
ugh.
just when I was patting myself on the back for picking up Soriano, and Milledge, along comes Cuddyer….
ugh. bring in Eddie.
Freaking unbelievable
Soriano is teh suxor!
/supervision bait humor.
No lead is safe in this bandbox!
Grand Slam, Shim Sham. Who cares, we’re still gonna win tonight!
How many games have we lost in this manner?
well, perhaps now that it’s a tie ball-game I may just hear my beloved Beltre actually hit a home run.
in fact, perhaps I should turn off my radio, as that increases the chanes that he;ll hit one….
Valle gets quote of the night – “it was a slider, that didn’t slide”. Gee thanks Dave…
I think I know who tomorrows B.O.D. is.
260.- BOD?
Heaven forbid we choose not to gut the bullpen with a five run lead.
you know, why is it that I jink stuff like that but whenever Beltre comes up with runners on and I say “home run” he pops out?
why God why?
Can anyone find the record for the most grand slams given up in a season by one team, and then tell me how close the M’s are to breaking that record? It seems as though the Mariners are giving up a ton of salamis this year.
#261 — see: http://www.bat-girl.com/archives/000740.php
On the contrary, how many times have we left the bases loaded in an inning where we didn’t score? I know that happened earlier today too.
Ugh…it appears as if the meat of our order will go down without so much as a whimper
I smell some free baseball coming up….
BOD
someone forgot to give the Ms the memo about Jamie’s record with a 4-run lead.
I smell the M’s dropping another deuce on the field at home after having a nice lead.
Dear Mike Hargrove,
That is the proper situation to in which to lay down a sacrifice bunt.
Sincerely,
Ron Gardenhire
How about a walk off from Sexson?
Here comes the triple. Which will then be stranded.
How about a television commercial that’s played less than eight times per game?
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It’s pretty bad when Gardy takes you to school.
now its time for Richie’s triple!
Now he has to wait until the 12th.
I never specified which inning I thought Richie might hit a walk off dinger.
Since I chose NOT to put Kenji in my fantasy line up today, he should have a 300% greater chance of hitting a hr now, lol!
279- I have him in… He will K haha stupid curse of the fantasy lineup!
“He had it timed perfectly, other than being out front a little bit.”
Ron Fairly with a nice contradiction.
Oh dear god. I got out of the car after boxing practice and it’s the 8th and we’re up by 5.
I take a shower and now we’re tied in the ninth. What the hell!
That will teach me to shower.
Well I was ALMOST right and unfortunately for ALL of us…you ended up correct, lol
and Soriano was making his fb debut for me…
with the bases loaded, you knew the slam was coming.
Curse of the fantasy lineup strikes again! I am going to bench him from now on…
Boxing, eh? You should use Grover and the ‘pen as a speed bag after this debacle.
I’m really happy that I didn’t put Soriano in my FB lineup tonight, he would’ve totally screwed my team. his ERA would be ugly..and kill all of the good pitching I’ve had this week.
Lord knows the rest of my line up has decided this is the week to take a break.
286: I’m not sure you can blame Grover for this one. Soriano was the one who tubed a hanging slider.
Though the curse might live on, I have Putz in my line up tonight…
There is a certain amount of confusion over the meaning of the term “holy smoke” — but little dispute that Rico should say it less frequently.
Pablo, you make a good point, but if I sparred a few rounds with Grover would be excellent for USSM morale!
288 – you can blame Hargrove for leaving Sean Green in until the bases were loaded and he had walked in a run though.
288, with a five run lead, couldn’t he have just taken his chances with Green and at least TRIED to rest the pen? Grover already had two relievers warming up with just one on and two outs and a FIVE run lead.
The objective is to score before Grover feels obliged to bring in Guardado.
Funny line on Last Comic Standing the other day: “Fantasy football and fantasy baseball are nothing but Dungeons and Dragons for the meatheads that used to be up the kids that played Dungeons and Dragons.”
Made me chuckle anyway.
I’m rooting for Beltre to be a walk-off hero in the bottom of this inning.
292 and 293: It’s funny that one of you blames Hargrove for leaving Green in for too long and the other says he yanked him too early. I think the bottom line is that Grover correctly called on Soriano and Soriano threw a terrible, costly pitch.
Who would be the next dude after Putz if it gets that deep into the game? Please don’t say some chunky left hander, lol
296 – I’m with you. Soriano hung that slider out there to be jacked out of the Safe. Period.
Green was in a bit of trouble, didn’t help that Sherrill walked one in.
My bad on who walked in the 5th Twins run. For some reason Sherrill never makes much of an impression on me — something about showing up for 4 or 5 pitches every 3rd game maybe.
299- It’s ok, it’s just the life of a LOOGY.
Rizzs: “It’s nice to get the walk off home run, believe me, the Mariners would take it.”
I don’t believe you Rizzs.
Yoooooooony!
Now c’mon and win this dang ballgame. I need to go to bed.
It indeed was Soriano’s “bad” for that horrific GS with two strikes. My point all along was Grover’s THINKING was off when he wasn’t trying to avoid using the pen with a day game tomorrow. Even if Green worked out of trouble, he was obviously going to take him out. Thus the two men warming up earling in the 8th.
If we win, no one will care. Lets hope THAT is what ultimately happens.
Valle just congratulated Bruce Condiotty on his 50th. I’ve known Bruce for most of them. We went to MI together. He’s a dude.
Jese Crain’s in the game?
It’s times like this I still had him on my fb team…
Beltre’s on-deck. IFthere was ANY time for me to hear him hit a homer…
Crain is a wierd pitcher. After a history of missing bats in the minors, he struck *nobody* out last year but enjoyed some success. This year he has a good K rate but has an ERA over 6…
Ichiro did that on purpose to punnish Mauer for being ahead in the batting average race.
Let’s hope we don’t burn a couple of more pitchers and end up losing anyway.
Haha, the Mauer punnishment continues!
Does Beltre have the all time record for most “swing and a misses” through 60 games, lol?
Somebody get Beltre a bat that’s 2″ longer!
STOP LOL-ING RIGHT NOW. JUST STOP.
Jesus. You LOL’ers made Beltre strike out.
Now for that long-awaited RBI from Lopez…
there’s only one out- time for Jose to bunt?
301. That and the earlier Fairly comment are why I’m listening to the Spanish right now. I can even understand half of it!
Sigh. Adrian, you poor, star-crossed schmuck.
Or a brain that is 100 brain cells bigger. He swings at such bad pitches
UNHITCH THE TRAILER JOSE!!!
Someone move Beltre 2″ closer to the plate…
Sigh. Looks like Sexson will get another shot @ the cycle a la Buhner.
This game will not die.
Thanks, Lauren.
FUCK
Half of the Mariners roster needs to get banned from Gorditos (*cough*Felix*cough*). Mmmmmm, Gorditos.
Eddie can probably down about half of the team’s supply at one sitting, lol
At this rate if Grover burns another pitcher, the M’s are screwed for tomorrow.
Lets see, Green, Putz and Julio Mateo have been used.
Here’s what’s left:
Gas Can Eddie and Jake Woods.
The future is not bright.
Speaking of Eddie, I bet if we bring him in he’ll find a way to end this.
I think we should chip in and have Tom Candiotti call Derek up.
Thnaks for the out, Gardy.
326- I’d chip in.
nice DP Sexson!
Pitch to this a-hole. They give us an out, so we repay their kindness with a free base? Geezus him and Castro, it’s like a free pass to the bottom of the inninng. Yikes.
Oh, worst case scenario, they PH Moreneau, it seems the manager was the only one who didn’t see this coming.
-EDIT- So I was wrong. It happens. Hargrove is an unqestioned genius. Now their slick fielding SS is out of the game. Methinks we’ll see more bunts…
3-6-1! Let’s put this away now… please!
Is Jake Woods still alive, lol?
That was a nice double play.
JI, we’re trying so hard to lose this one, but the Twins just won’t take our generosity, lol
We may actually pull this one out yet!
Yeah, Woods is alive.
There are two lefties left in the Pen. So hopefully they can put this away. If not, it’s either Eddie or Woods. Though you could maybe squeeze one more inning out of Mateo.
But then your BP is toast for the day game.
Better hope Joel can go a full 9 tomorrow afternoon.
Nothing like seeing two managers trying to outdummy each other.
This is the last inning I can feel it
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Tacoma is only two hours away…
338- True. Are they in town? Or out on the road?
Idaho: If you’re doing it on purpose, you suck.
Also, if you’re not doing it on purpose? You suck.
Plenty of great seats left behind home plate, but they’re going fast!
340 No idea
So one’s man-crush just took an embarrasing turn. *E-2*
Haaahahaha. Joe “The Jesus” Mauer made a mistake! Rick’s head is going to explode!
Lets see if Sexson can make Mauer pay
Hahaha suck on THAT Mauer!
Easy Lauren. Calmate. We’re going to win.
I have to concur with Lauren on the lols, because really, none of us are that humorous, and the game surely isn’t.
Nothing. Will. Make. This. Game. End.
Lauren, what are you talking about?
Lauren, I still don’t know what you’re talking about, lol!
Damn, I just lost the “me” in some… Now Richie will have to wait until the 15th to cycle.
WOOOOOO C-WRECKS!
Wow..Go C-Rex!
Goodbye Baseball!!!
C-REX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nevermind all of that.
Anyone really see that one coming?!
Left Handed SOCK!
Carl. Thank you, man. I was *so* sleepy.
jesus! thats what I’ve been waiting for!
thank you C-Rex!!
C-Rex of course.
Holy Crap, that was a pretty Jurassic blast!
Yeeeeeeeee freakin’ haw! C-Rex
Carl. Will. Make. This. Game. End.
And with that he’s probably earned the opportunity to have enough ABs to vest his option. Sigh.
Oh yeah!!!
M’s = winners of 6 of last 7!
Jurassic Park couldn’t of held that blast.
C-Rex!!!! A game this ugly HAD to end this way.
and I was just sitting here, thinking bitter thoughts about how it would not be Petagine in the game, because, sheesh, he just had an AB three days ago, so it was far too soon for Hargrove to undo the velcro pinning him to the bench…
362- Lets focus on that in the morning. Right now lets just bask in the win.
Props to 337 anybody?
It’s really a letdown when he doesn’t grab his crotch after he crosses homeplate. I was expecting more from Carl.
P.S. Idaho, you’re just BEGGING to get flamed by the mods. They deserve better. Please help me to help you help yourself.
Talk about winning in the worst way.
366- I was sitting here thinkin the EXACT same thing “Gee, great, Everett up at the plate and he has already hit one walkoff this year… fulfilled his quota.. I would rather have anyone up right now, wheres Petagine?” Boy do I feel stupid but SOOO happy! haha (not lol)
He doesn’t believe in dinosaurs, but he believes in game-winning home runs (aka “Guardingers”), I guess.
Woah, a Deanna sighting.
Glad you could join the aftermath.
If we have a Deanna sighting, does that mean that Lauren is no longe the “token chick?”
Clearly, Tim Eyman’s face was painted on that ball C-Rex hit.
Clearly, Deanna is the non-token chick.
I have to take the path less traveled here, regarding C REX (the name is pretty funny though). I think that holding baseball players to some kind of moral standard to be on the team isn’t usually appropriate. As far as my left-wing bleeding-heart-liberal ass is concerned, Carl can believe whatever he dang well pleases. If I’m not allowed to demand that the editor sitting next to me not be a fundie loon, I don’t know why I should get to demand that about my DH. And if the law hasn’t found him guilty for child-beating or whatever the heck supposedly went on, I figure I’m unlikely to know enough about the situation to judge.
Everett seems like he’s been loosening up a little under the mushy influence of soft-hearted Seattle, I must say. He was downright friendly in the post-game interview, and seemed pretty happy to get his greeting at home plate (which his teammates were happy to give). Maybe Seattle’s actually a good team for him. IT’d be nice, of course, if he were a good DH for us.
If the M’s pitchers could get their act together, they just might have a shot at taking the poor AL West. However, this team is no where near playoff caliber. Since Pat left, our team has dwindled–so has attendance.
#376: I too could care less about Carl’s off-field issues. I only care about whether or not he can hit well enough to help the team. And overall, I think he’s fallen short for a DH and a No. 5 hitter.
But I give him props for tonight. He won a ballgame. That’s one.
#376: Editor? Do you work at a newspaper?
I do, but in ad marketing, not news. But I do sit next to an editor, who is not a fundie loon, but IF HE WERE I WOULD DEFEND HIS RIGHT TO BE SO, dammit. Yeah.
“But” is the new LOL.
I don’t mind a fundie loon … just a well-funded fundie loon.
Lauren, ad marketing? I’m curious. Click my link and fire me an email if you’ve got time.
Man, this is why I’m the non-token chick. When I tell people I’m a software engineer, they just give me a blank stare.
I haven’t been around game threads a lot this year because generally either
1) I’m at Safeco
2) I’m actually watching the game on TV, which means I’m not at a computer
3) I tried to follow the thread, but my brain exploded
42) I had David J Corcoran on my fantasy blogger roster and if he doesn’t get a start, it’s not worth following
#375 (Eyman)
High quality comment. I laughed out loud.
Yes, but Deanna, did you pick up David J Corcoran I? They tell me he’s good on all the counting stats.
And I’m hella with you on numbers one through three.
Regarding Carl “C-Rex” Everett, on Opening Day did anyone happen to see people in the crowd shaking blow-up dinosaurs when Everett’s name was announced? I saw it on the TV broadcast VERY briefly. I about died from a serious lack of oxygen! It was nice to see Seattle fans actually have a sense of humor.
Deanna,Daniel, & DMZ– The mentioned David J Corcoran blog posting June 7th is an entertaining read.
#385– isn’t that ‘asploded’?
I doubt anyone is still reading this thread, though I´m sure the monitor will? I was wondering whether ee cummings was a baseball fan, and whether and how he would have left comments.
Also, do the writers at ussmariner ever directly interview members of the Mariners? Do they think Bob Fontaine would answer a direct question like “do you and your staff think Morrow was the best available talent at the number five pick”? I think it would be great to combine your analytical skills with interviewing. Thanks.
#391– I think if you asked Fontaine, he would tell you “”We had a number of pitchers we thought were worthy of the fifth pick in the draft,” said Bob Fontaine, the Mariners’ vice president of scouting. “We think he is a good fit for us.”
If you asked about any of the other pitchers, you’d get the same answer he gave McGrath :
“Bob Fontaine surely understands why Mariners fans would’ve seen Lincecum as a more enlightened pick than Morrow, but he was unable to explain his reasoning because, well, that’s just not the kind of thing baseball people do on draft day.
“Once a player is selected by another organization, we prefer not to talk about him,” Fontaine said, adding: “We don’t want them to talk about our guys, either.”
It’s one of those unwritten rules. You don’t steal bases during the late innings of a blowout; you don’t bunt to break up a no-hitter; rookies don’t stand in the batter’s box to admire their work after hitting a home run, and scouting chiefs don’t share their thoughts on those they don’t draft.”
A day late, thank you for the birthday present, DMZ. Unfortunatley I was in the hospital with a mangled thumb so I couldn’t even appreciate it (or the 12 inning game) and now only have 7 fingers that can type and my brain is clouded with vicodin so I’ll be making enough typos you’ll have to delete me. But I promise I won’t misspell Pineiro.