Comments on: Barry Bonds is coming to Seattle

By: Ralph Malph

Ralph Malph — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 22:17:03 +0000

Violating a bad law is fine if it is morally necessary or morally right to do so. A German draftee soldier ordered to operate the gas chamber should have refused the order even though it was against military law to do so. A black person ordered to stop “trespassing” in a lunch counter or to sit in the back of the bus was morally right to refuse to do so, even if he or she would go to jail for that. Or a person who refuses the draft because he believes war is morally wrong.

Taking steroids is either morally neutral or morally wrong, depending on your point of view. It is not morally right, but it is clearly legally wrong.

Barry Bonds did not use steroids out of civil disobedience. He did it for his own personal glory and enrichment.

Justifying what Barry Bonds apparently did on the basis of civil disobedience is just sloppy reasoning.

By: John in L.A.

John in L.A. — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:12:48 +0000

“To those folks who say they donâ€™t care if somebody violates a bad law:

Do you people have children? Do you tell them that?? Did your parents tell you that??? Stop and think about this a little bit, people.”

Stop and think about it a little bit? I’ve thought about it for years.

Right and wrong are a thousand times more important to me than legal nad illegal. And yes, that is not too harsh a truth for children.

I don’t run my moral code by a punishment paradigm, I run it by what I thinkn it right and wrong.

There are many useless or outright bad laws on the books, I respect them not at all.

Conversely, I won’t do anything I know is wrong just because it’s legal.

Many of the greatest heroes in history became such because they vilotated bad laws. I’m all for it.

By: Swungonandbelted

Swungonandbelted — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 20:46:08 +0000

Bah, nm that, should have looked at the timestamp.

By: Celadus

Celadus — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 20:41:57 +0000

#58.

Violating bad laws? Of course I would teach my children to do that. It’s part of civil disobedience. Among my hazy criteria of what makes a good American is the capacity to do what is right, whether it is legal or not, whether or not one is doomed to failure in the short run.

At the lunatic extreme of meticulously not violating bad laws you have people going to work as guards in Nazi concentration camps because they are told to and not doing so would break the law. Compare that to people going to jail because they refuse to go into the Armed Services after getting drafted because they don’t believe in that particular war.

Which of these groups of people do you propose to emulate? Choose carefully. Explain to your kids why you make that choice.

By: Swungonandbelted

Swungonandbelted — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 20:23:47 +0000

45: Hate to rain on your parade, but Felix is pitching tonight last I heard…

By: byronebyronian

byronebyronian — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 20:15:49 +0000

I really can’t believe anybody would be entertaining this? Why not spend that money on chasing a younger, more productive hitter via FA or trade?

We gripe that Krazy Carl is taking up space on our roster at the expense of younger, cheaper alternatives (and I agree with you guys 100%) but why do this? Doyle should be ready to play by midseason and if he can show some durability, he’s option #1 (unless Grover keeps sending Carl out there and his option vests, oy vey).

Correct me if I am wrong, but why would we want the headaches and the salary burden not to mention there is no way in hades that Lincoln will sign off on this.

By: byronebyronian

byronebyronian — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 20:10:48 +0000

#23 – Joe, with all due respect, Arte has spent money, true, but he won’t pay Bonds 20 mil. He could have had Manny Ramirez (as some guy pointed out on another board) but from what I understand, he didn’t want to absorb the salary.

I doubt seriously that Arte M would pay Bonds what he thinks he’s worth anymore than the M’s or A’s will.

By: seank100

seank100 — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 20:01:47 +0000

re:61
I’m with Corcoran – we could non-platoon Bonds in CF.

By: Gomez

Gomez — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 19:14:06 +0000

I’m with Bob Montgomery on Bonds’ imminent collapse. He will not pass Aaron. I think his body will give out before he’s able to. It’s already giving out now: he’s just able to buy some time by utilizing his primadonna superstar status to take many days off and leave games early. He’s been hobbled and, athletically, a shell of himself for the last 2 years or so.

By: David J. Corcoran I

David J. Corcoran I — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:59:53 +0000

Barry Bonds would provide LH sock and would get injured immediately if signedin Seattle.

Maybe he could play CF.