Game 68, Mariners at Athletics
JMB · June 15, 2006 at 12:31 pm · Filed Under Game Threads
Washburn vs. Loaiza, 12:35pm.
Hey, glad I checked on the time of today’s game.
Should be a good chance to pick up a win — Loaiza might be a bit distracted, or at least tired, from his late night / early morning out yesterday. Also, he’s been awful this season.
Ichiro-Beltre-Lopez-Ibanez-Sexson-Everett-Johjima-Reed-Betancourt.
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Johjima’s in the lineup today? What happened to the day-game-after-night-game-start-Rivera system?
I dunno. I’m just going by Gameday here.
the way their luck goes, Loaiza is extra-focused due to his recent embarrasment.
ah, Oakland– where the leather-voiced heckler you can hear behind homeplate has a repertoire consisting of ‘you suck’
Fantastic 15 pitch 1-2-3 inning there guys
“Mariners vs. Angels”? Are you hoping that if we pretend we’re playing the Angels we have a hope of winning?
Oooh, radio feed on the MLB.tv broadcast.
Heh. Sorry. Will fix.
ok, everyone wants to go home early.
Nice inning.
Restaurant Law final in an hour… gotta study some cases.
Loaiza’s last start @CLE was pretty good, though (7 IP, 5/1 K/BB, 4H, 1 ER) so maybe he’s put his early season injury problems behind him. Small sample size caveats obviously apply, but it seems possible that he may yet live up to expectations (moderate though they were).
w00t w00t! C-Rex in the house!
Ugly but effective
Way to go, “Swishie” ….
Oh SNAP! Nice glove, Nick. At least Loaiza’s ERA won’t go up…
Nice highball, Loaiza ….
As if Loaiza hasn’t made enough of an ass of himself, now he has to try to do the same to poor Jeremy.
That was a shot down Loiaza’s throat ….
Yu Bet!
I was wondering how many drinking jokes would be made today… thanks, Jim!
Wow! Strange inning…
Loaiza needs a stiff Beltre of something right here ….
Loaiza downs ANOTHER highball!
How did Ichiro get out? Gameday is claiming he grounded out yet noone on the basepaths moved…?
Jose.
Loaiza weaved his way through that inning relatively unscathed.
He swung, and was out of the batter’s box when the ball bounced up and hit him.
no one*
#23: Ichiro touched the ball outside of the batter’s box after swinging at it, according to the radio.
Uber-prospect Chad Billingsley is getting his first start for the Dodgers today. So far thrown 27 pitches through 1, but no damage.
Now Washie can’t throw a strike… Ugh.
It’s almost as if Jarrod thinks: “Oh, right … I need to have two crappy innings in here somewhere so I can stay in line with my 40th percentile PECOTA projection” ….
Oh, nooooossss! :moon: I just don’t have a good feeling about this inning.
$37.5 million, folks. $37.5 million.
Wow, Washburn continues to amaze
“Oh, those bases on balls” – Dave Niehaus
“I’m just not really surprised.” – Jimmie the Geek
For FRACK sakes, Washie… just throw a strike :moon
You tell ‘em Niehaus. We are all thinking it.
Okay, how much did Washburn have to drink?
You know, it just wouldn’t be fair to Oakland to take advantage of them when they shoot themselves in the foot, we need to be gentlemen about this and give them the opportunity to catch up….. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
When you can’t throw a strike to the fearsome Antonio Perez, you should be put out to pasture.
Maybe he was out with Loaiza last night.
By the way, is Woods a lock to replace Pineiro in the rotation?
“Only two come in to score for the A’s” – Niehaus
“None should have scored for the A’s.” – Mariner’s fans
I miss the moon emoticon.
37-
Clearly he was at Duffy’s Bar last night…
My in-house rotation replacements, in order:
— Livingston
— Cruceta
— Blackley
— Baek
— Woods
None of which, by the way, are nearly good enough.
Have they announced anything regarding Pineiro? I’m halfway suprised that they haven’t extended him for 2 years allreayd, because after all, he’s one of the “good guys”
An Absolut gem of an inning for Loaiza.
Remember when we had Brett Tomko in the MINORS- unable to crack the rotation? And “Pitching is a strength of this organization”? Ah, those were the days…
That one was so subtle I almost missed it, Jim.
It’s hang on time… Washie’s back up on the mound.
Maybe we need to bring in Pat O’Day as a pinch-hitter here.
Nothing official on Pineiro that I’ve heard, but Hargrove was clearly at the end of his rope with him last night.
And this from the Times today:
“Sources say the Mariners are considering moving Pineiro to the bullpen to give him a chance to work out the troubles that have seen him tagged for a 1-5 record and a 7.54 earned-run average in those games.
Asked if it was a coincidence that left-hander Jake Woods was allowed to stretch out to four innings in relief of Pineiro, a club official responded: ‘No, it was not.’”
There should be a USS Mariner night in a Mariner’s Suite. That would be suite!
Last night’s game was just demoralizing. I’m glad I was in the gym working out for part of it so that it wasn’t a complete waste.
Today, I require a win. Come on, Washburn. You can do it. No, not like that, not with the doubles.
#45– According to Drayer, Hargrove said last night he wouldn’t talk about Pineiro, but was a little more wishywashy today, indicating they were thinking they’d make a change, possibly temporary, pretty soon.
#47– I don’t think that was why he didn’t crack the rotation.
#51… but those suites are going fast.
Holy Cow! Washie struck a batter out. :O
Huh. I didn’t realize that NO ONE on the A’s (today’s lineup at least) is hitting over .300. That makes the last two days even worse.
And… there goes the lead, the game and the series.
Well, other than Ichiro! NO ONE on the M’s is hitting over .300 either.
Aieieieighhhhh
Heh. OK, good point, Joe.
I think the A’s remember Jarrod Washburn.
In fact, on today’s lineup, who’s #2? Mr Betancourt, at .291 (about the same as the A’s best, Swisher). And #3, Lopez, at .278 (who has lost what, about .30 since moving down in the batting order?) Ichiro, Betancourt, Lopez — how many were predicting that before the season?
Hey, on the plus side, only 3.58 years left on Washburn’s 4 year deal….
Loaiza must have swilled a couple after the first inning.
Umm, I phuqued that up.
Loaiza must have swilled a couple Chasers after the first inning.
We have 5 guys slugging under .400 :0
Oakland’s middle of the order was all hitting .350/.500 or better, at least until Big Frank was DLed for the upcoming All Encompassing Trip through the National League.
Rizzs is much more tolerable when Niehaus is there to babysit.
The song “Walking in LA” comes to mind, save they’re in Oakland.
Dude… I guess it’s time to stop pretending to work and go ride my motorcycle. Ugh.
gee, remember when the Mariners used to be the ones getting 2-out hits?
way to auger this one in M’s, I guess that you recognize that when you’re one run down, you’re going to lose? Washburn — Fake an injury or something, just quit serving up those meatballs.
Well, at least that’s over with.
Are the M’s really losing to the suckiest starter on the A’s staff 24 hours after said sucky hurler woke up in the can?
#73: Yes.
C-Rex does it again! Anyone else confilcted rooting for him, when you don’t want him on your team?
I don’t have any problems with Carl or his beliefs. (even if I don’t agree with them). I’m watching him play baseball and perform at a semi-effective level for the M’s, not asking him to educate my children. Heck he’s a more interesting AB than 2/3 of the team.
Six hits, all singles. What’s our team slg% in comparison to the rest of the league?
And Beltre flashes the glove, along with his two (!!) walks today. w00t.
Is Washburn going to give up 2 this inning? The A’s are just killing us, and it feels like they always have.
Today is Reed’s birthday. That means he’s got to hit a bomb.
#76 – I think most of us are not conflicted about him because of his beliefs. It’s more that he is not providing any consistent level of production, despite moments of “pop” that make you wonder if anybody else on the roster would have stepped up. I think he’s probably ended his share of innings too, though I haven’t reviewed the data.
…and he did; right into Johnson’s cow pouch.
What’s a good nickname for Fruto?
Billingsley update: no runs allowed through 4, and he singled in both of LA’s runs. The hype is validated!
Does anyone remember who the A’s received for Bonderman?
#83. um, Fruto?
I gather he is a good dancer, according to Drayer, there was a pre-game dance-off one day (back when they were winning, remember that?) and Fruto apparently has nible feet from his soccer-playing days, if that helps.
#83 Fruto Bandito
Excellent. How about the Fruit Foot? Then we can all sing along to “get on the fruit foot! get on the fruit foot! aaoooww!”
#85–”August 22, 2002: Sent by the Oakland Athletics to the Detroit Tigers to complete an earlier deal made on July 5, 2002. The Oakland Athletics sent a player to be named later, Carlos Pena, and Franklyn German to the Detroit Tigers. The New York Yankees sent Ted Lilly, John-Ford Griffin, and Jason Arnold (minors) to the Oakland Athletics. The Detroit Tigers sent Jeff Weaver to the New York Yankees. The Detroit Tigers sent cash to the Oakland Athletics. The Oakland Athletics sent Jeremy Bonderman (August 22, 2002) to the Detroit Tigers to complete the trade”
#86–that would be nimble, not nible.
July 5 – Acquired P Ted Lilly, minor league OF John-Ford Griffin and minor league P Jason Arnold from the New York Yankees as part of a three-team, seven player trade in which the A’s sent IF Carlos Pena, P Franklyn German and a player to be named later (P Jeremy Bonderman on Aug. 22) to Detroit for P Jeff Weaver and cash considerations. The A’s then sent Weaver to New York to complete the deal.
El Bailarin?
Thanks msb/Jake. I have to think it wasn’t the best deal they have ever made.
By the way, the A’s are giving away pot holders to the first 10K fans for a game against the D-Backs.
Nice.
Rauuuuuuul!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Way to go Big Sexy.
RE:93
Not the best trade but people forget that Arnold was used in the Durazo trade (who had a couple of good years there) and Lilly was pretty good down the stretch in 2003. Bonderman is an awesome talent but he still hasn’t shown enough consistency for all the hype he gets.
The radio announcers (a’s) are making fun of the Mariners for having Sexson charge in for a bunt by Payton:
“When is the last time you have seen Payton bunt? Does anybody scout these guys?”.
97 – Not the best trade but people forget that Arnold was used in the Durazo trade (who had a couple of good years there) and Lilly was pretty good down the stretch in 2003. Bonderman is an awesome talent but he still hasn’t shown enough consistency for all the hype he gets.
Fair enough. I wonder if the fact that Billy didn’t want to draft Bonderman in the first place had any factor in it as well?
Fruto Daloom.
Maybe, but I just wanted to expose the myth that Oakland got hosed on that trade. If you wanna talk about a bad trade look no further than the Hudson deal.
(Full Disclosure: I’m a longtime Oakland fan that’s been lurking on this awesome blog forever.)
#100 – Sweet.
C’mon Rafael. O, crapola.
meh
Super crapola.
A’s did ok by the Mulder deal, though. I’d certainly rather have Haren than Mulder so far this season.
And…. crap. So much for the close game.
What a wretched series. The M’s sure know how to flush the mojo down the drain.
When do the M’s play then Angels again?
81 –
Depends on what you mean by his beliefs. I don’t have a problem with his no-dinasaurs beliefs, that just makes him stupid. I don’t mind stupid.
But if you mean, say, his child-rearing beliefs, then yeah, I have a big problem.
I’m not conflicted at all, though. I want him to fail. I don’t want his option to vest, and I want him off my team.
He’s providing nothing we couldn’t get elsewhere for free… and wins this year are not so precious to me that I will make a deal that compromises MY beliefs – namely that Carl is a bad man i don’t want on my team.
I’m surprised that they aren’t walking Ichiro! automatically.
Geez, I go to class for two hours and look what happens…
How was the final?
Speaking of Everett, remember (well, if you were at the pre-season gathering) how Bavasi said the option would only vest if Carl was “raking”? .241/.318/.377 isn’t even raking for a middle infielder.
Aced the final. Professor Gold said I was only the fifth person to do so in the history of the class, and he’s been teaching at least 20 years. On of the other perfect scores belongs to current CIA president Tim Ryan.
Woo.
I thought Bavasi said “kickin’ ass”.
Either way, that’s not what he’s doing.
So Ichiro! now has a, what, 16 game hitting streak? And didn’t he only have one O-fer day between this and his last 15+ game hitting streak? Or am I remembering it wrong?
I think you’re right on that phrase, Evan.
He said “kicking ass”. Unless he meant kicking the fans in their collective ass, I think he’s failing.
Congratulations, JMB. That’s awesome.
#112– Speaking of Everett, remember (well, if you were at the pre-season gathering) how Bavasi said the option would only vest if Carl was “rakingâ€? .241/.318/.377 isn’t even raking for a middle infielder.
unfortunately, his manager is the one running him out there every day, bringing him closer & closer to the vesting number of ABs.
Nah, there were a couple of 0-fers in there (May 25, 29).
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/gamelog?statsId=6615
Thanks John.
Answering my own question…
Ichiro had 18 in a row, than an O-fer, then 3 in a row, then an O-fer, now 15 in a row.
So he’s hit in 36 of his last 38 games. That’s cool.
And 23 of those 36 games were multi-hit games. 10 of them 3 or more hits each.
I like JJ, he’s kinda good.
re: Everett and Hargrove…
I suppose the hope is that Everett continues to not kick ass, Bavasi will take the decision out of Hargrove’s hands. C’mon, Doyle!
M’s don’t play the Angels again until August 18th. Between now and then there are two more series with the A’s which look like the easiest on the schedule. Everything else is against contenders or at least plus-.500 teams (the NL West, all of whom are over .500, plus Detroit, Toronto, New York, Boston, Cleveland). The only bright spots are a series with Tampa Bay August 6 and maybe the Baltimore series July 31. And they only have four games in Texas the whole of July and August (there’s a small mercy).
Of course the M’s swept SD once this season, so maybe there’s some hope there.
So much for all that momentum, huh?
So that was a save situation? Talk about inflated stats. If there are empty hits, Street certainly has some empty saves (such as every one he’s had against the Ms).
Yeppers… nice “mo”.
JMB, I worked for a Chef in the ’90s that graduated top of her class from the CIA. I applaud you for doing well there, judging frmo the stories she told us it’s not an easy program.
Jimmie
Jeez … what is that, 9 losses in a row to the A’s?
It would be nice to see one of our starters not named Felix go more than 5 innings. Other than the King’s recent CG I don’t think I’ve seen a Mariner pitcher throw less than 50 pitches in 3 innings in the past three weeks or so.
Jamie threw a CG within the last couple of weeks.
Bring on the Giants … wonder what the odds are of Meche serving up a tater to Bonds?
Looking at the 21 games leading to the All-Star break.
SF .508, Dodgers .538, SD .523, Arizona.538, CO.515, LAA .446, Detroit .642
Any chance of going .500+?
I just read Jim Thomsen’s comment (#46) about the absolut gem. His comment was an absolute gem… it had me laughing so hard I almost spray juice all over my keyboard!
#127 — Nothing cheap about Street’s save on Monday — bases loaded, no outs, heart of the order coming up — other than the team at bat being who they were.
I’d take .500 through that schedule.
More good news: C-Rex will be sitting/PHing for all those NL road games (unless Hargrove decides to be a complete idiot and puts him in the OF- which would mean he’d be benching either Ichiro or Raul).
All C-Rex needs is one cold series at home and he’ll be nice and iced for June.
Gosh, listening to the Mariners lose while waiting on a ferry makes me grumpy. Vashon is interesting, but it makes McCall look like civilization…
And if anybody is wondering, it makes Traffic In McCall look desireable. All these 4 way stops are stooped
#135– at least according to Finnigan: “”When we go without a DH, Carl will be the odd man out,” manager Mike Hargrove said.” Hickey however says “Hargrove said that Everett, an outfielder before becoming a DH, is shagging and taking some fly balls in the outfield before games. Hargrove said there is a chance Everett could play in the outfield.”
Are all the callers on the post game shows idiots? (rhetorical question)
DJC: Vashon is Hippie central.
In other random notes: Kenny Rogers, who was pretty universally panned as a FA signing: 9-3, 3.25 as a Tiger.
Esteban Loaiza, who wasn’t: 2-3, 6.03.
Weird, weird world. Sometimes, we just peer into a glass but darkly.
so I noticed, I’m surrounded in people without deodorant :S
Sure, there’s a chance he’d play in the OF. However, starting Everett means benching Raul or Ichiro, playing Carl in CF, or shifting Ichiro to CF. None of these are particularly desirable.
I’m going to go with “he’ll pinch hit some and maybe go in on some double switch that makes the announcers go OOOOOH”.
Carl should get the chance to play CF. Maybe he will get hurt go to the DL and find his way off the team once Doyle comes back.
Drayer thinks if they make any decision on Pineiro, we’ll hear tomorrow, as the discussion would likely take place on the plane home.
Off the team? Just stick him on the bench; that’s close enough. Hargove uses his bench so little that the M’s could probably sneak into this weekend’s series with a 27 man roster and nobody would ever know.
“Now batting — Roberto Petegini(sp)?”
opposing dugout “Peta-who-ni? who the heck is that? Ah, don’t worry about him, just some guy on their bench”
So if last week was the snooze button on firing Hargrove, what is this sweep?
If Vashon’s interesting it must have gotten a face-lift. Excellent place to film a re-make of the Blair Witch Project though.
146. Maybe, hopefully, it will be viewed as an indictment of how bad the Angels really are, and maybe the sweep over them will be a little less meaningful. At this point though, unless the wheels totally come off, I’d expect to see Hargrove retained until after the season. Too far out of character for this club to make a radical change midseason.
Fruto’s nickname should be Fruto Pebbles.
I do look forward to tbe Boston series just for the chance to see the all-cereal at-bat: Fruto (Loops) vs Coco Crisp.
“HEART OF THE ORDER” (See # 134) – Murderers Row ?
Yeah, e-coward, I’ve been keeping an eye on Kenny the Rogers, the guy who’s results last year weren’t sustainable just like they haven’t been sustainable for ten years. Of course, with J-Rod reverting to the mean for the anti-Midas Mariners, Rogers shouldn’t be that far behind, one does suppose.
This is a beau-uuuu-tiful day to be out on Vashon. I love going there in June. The Sound among the mountains is like cup in the hands of the gods, and the sun has nothing finer to do than sit up in that sky and shine. . . . Wish I was there, rather than in the ‘bomb shelter,’ though here even the collateral blowback of the Ms flop-a-roonie in Oakland can’t spatter on my shoe, so. As for the others in the 8% who voted for an 0-3 result in that series, it hurts to be right, but thees team, she STEEEEENKS!
A heart that doesn’t beat, in the corpse of a team that doesn’t hit.
Not YET?????