Game 73, Mariners at Dodgers
DMZ · June 21, 2006 at 6:33 pm · Filed Under Game Threads
LHP Washburn versus Chaaaaaaaaaaaad Billingsley. 0-0 Billingsley will, as all random starters with no records do, stymie the M’s.
Lopez returns to the lineup:
RF-L Ichiro!
3B-R Beltre
2B-R Lopez
LF-L Ibanez
1B-R Sexson
C-R Johjima
CF-L Reed
SS-R Betancourt.
Mmmm. 7:10.
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No way! Beltre will single handedly lead us to victory with his 2004 LA ways!
no first baseman for tonights game? Or is Lopez covering two bags today?
if close to the radio, Drayer is about to talk to Kim Ng on KOMO
nah, we’re gonna beat them with 7 people + washburn
we still need to hire Ng for GM and bring up Rohn for manager.
you know, change for change’s sake.
Ng recapped her background today, tomorrow about the same time she is to discuss women working in baseball…
Ah, life is good for Garvey.
Proposed poll question:
Will a Mariner pitcher hit a home run in interleague play, and if so, which pitcher is most likely to do it?
Holy crap…Mariners on national tv tonight!
In HD on ESPNHD. Mets and Reds game is in the bottom of the 9th, so that will have to finish up first.
Lay off Kim Ng. I’ve met her and she’s a nice gal.
Mariners Turn Back the Clock day! Maybe they can turn back our record too.
#10 – would you hit it?
Who said anything bad about her that would inspire a “lay off”? I’m confused.
Wasn’t there a They Might Be Giants song about Kim Ng?
#10– huh? who’s picking on Kim Ng?
Number 5 seemed a bit sarcastic.
Re: 10: My comment was light-hearted. I really don’t care.
Ng recapped her background today, tomorrow about the same time she is to discuss women working in baseball…
THAT was sarcastic?
not sarcastic, just a bare-bones update… as mentioned in #4, there are a lot of folks here who’ve wanted her included in previous interview pools…
Man, the audio feed is glitching something horrible for me. I wouldn’t have thought it was possible to make Valle less tolerable, but here I am.
#11– gotta love hearing the Pilots song again
No!
no to the song, or no to Olmedo Saenz?
my first foul ball came courtesy of Olmedo Saenz in the Kingdome….
I really can’t overstate how much I like Vin Scully. He is almost, by himself, enough to make me a Dodger fan. Almost.
Last night as the game ended he did his “Have a good night…” send off and I actually decided I should do exactly that.
My night was good because Vin Scully told me to make it so.
Saenz.
Not too bad a start; looks like we’re making good contact.
Vin Scully told me to juice up. It’s all his fault. – Ryan Franklin
I think Beltre stunt-doubled Saenz there, just for old time’s sake.
OSU is playing Rice tonight for the chance to play them once more, hoping for another win & advancement to the College World Series…
In Tacome: Baek walks two, strikes out the side — including Justin Leone — in the first inning on 28 pitches.
One of the walks was to Jack Cust, who does nothing but walk. Or the other one.
Perfect game for Washburn tonight!?!
Nice jinx try there.
I love that the ESPN announcer called that an automatic double (as opposed to a ground rule double).
It might be time for Dave Niehaus to “fly away” … sheesh. I love the guy, but when he blows a call, he REALLY blows a call.
Why are we bunting there???? So if Yuni can’t get him in we can have Washburn strike out to end the inning??
Hah hah… Vin just called Hargrove out for sacrificing here.
Bloomquist would have scored.
It’s amazing how bad Hargrove is. Just amazing.
Had to log on to say….BOOOOOOOOOOOOO Hargrove!
Mike Hargrove strikes again!
37 – Bloomquist would have ran himself out of the inning about seven pitches ago.
Wow, way to waste a leadoff double. Argh!
#41… but he’s the Ignitor! Even if he was tagged out, he would have gotten the rally started.
Jim, that song is Anna Ng:
http://www.oldielyrics.com/lyrics/they_might_be_giants/ana_ng.html
Walking the pitcher must cost you something in the clubhouse court.
Aaaaaaggggh. Doyle hits into a double play.
How brilliant is Mike Hargrove? He asks Reed to bunt Johjima to third, which makes no sense unless you knew what the skip did … that Washburn would “work” Billingsley for a walk. BRILLIANT!!
Now I get it! Hardgrove knew Washburn would get walked, and then Ichiro can drive him in!
[Guinness Guys] Brilliant!
Mike Hargrove is a Pakled.
“We are smart. The bunts will make us go.”
sac bunting just once before the 8th inning is grounds to be fired…. I figure Hargrove owes us at least 10 tearful goodbye speeches by now….
Re: 31, 32.
perhaps he meant at the plate. you know 1.000 OBP??
You guys can knock Grover all you want. I judge a skipper by his jowls, and Hargrove is head and shoulders (and cheeks) over Bob Melvin in that department. Ya’ll forget too quickly.
I’ve been thinking a lot about this lately and while I never wish that someone would lose their job, I simply can’t truly love the M’s (expressed by me spending copious amounts of money on Ms garb and paraphernalia) while Grover is at the helm…. on the bright side, I’m getting richer with each day he’s still around but i do have that sullen, empty feeling that I’m missing something in my life….
I just have so much love to give if only that fickle-hearted M’s FO would reciprocate…
and the LeHair Aira begins
Beltre would’ve never have done that off of J. Johnson…
interesting piece on Russell Martin earlier in the month
First SB for Beltre since May 5th.
That brings Beltre to a 72% career SB success rate. That’s a good enough rate that it’s nice to have around late in games where it makes sense to play for one run.
Hitting behind Ichiro seems to really work magic for underachievers. It was great for Lopez, it was equally good for Winn before him, and now its doing what Pentland, training, and hypnotherapy could not – its rehabilitating the Big B. M’s should rent that spot out to clubs with struggling sluggers and underperforming callups. Can’t think of any good candidates now but I’m sure some will come to mind.
Carl Everett?
Aggressive … um … something.
No, I draw a distinction between struggling sluggers and has-beens
That’s one way to get a run!
Haha, that type of play is supposed to work in high school, not in the pros.
Man, I remember when Neihaus saying “My Oh My!” meant the Mariners had hit a home run, or in some other way done something incredible.
Now he pulls it out when they get a cheap run out of a baserunning error?
Times have changed.
Rangers lose!
WFB did nothing in the number two hole during August of last year when he hit there consistantly.
For those who care..
Beavers lead Rice 3-0 in the 4th inning @ the CWS
Colorado takes the lead…over Oakland!
Billingsley isn’t all that impressive so far. I’ve heard his fastball sits in the mid 90’s but he doesn’t seem to have that tonight. Obviously the breaking ball he threw to Sexon was pretty good and he does have a full arsenal of pitches. With only 3 innings of watching Billingsley in my life, I definately don’t like him as much as Lester right now and he’s way, way behind Liriano. John Manuel actually preferred Billingsley coming into this year.
Yeah, Otsuka blew it again
Sexson, excuse me.
…and he’s way, way behind Liriano.
I think that could be said for a large number of pitchers in this league.
Right. It’s impossible to watch Liriano pitch and not be convinced he’s got a very bright future. I just find it odd that BA and in particular, John Manuel, pumped up Billingsley so much. He’s not in Liriano’s class.
What a shot!!!
KENJI!
Okay, Niehaus needs some time off. Geez.
I HATE it when 3rd base coaches wave someone in and then suddenly put on the brakes. It is a recip for injury… we;ve seen it before. And now Beltre is hurt. Great. Genius.
Jeremy “Ascension to the Mean” Reed ….
Jim,
Niehaus was trying to figure out the trivia question at the time!
Yeah, Billingsley does have some awfully nice numbers in the minors, though. I guess I could see where there would be an allure there, though I’ve only “seen” him pitch on Gameday tonight. He’ll probably be fine, though just how fine is up for debate.
Valle just mentioned it as I started typing, but the catcher yelled at Johjima as he crossed home plate. It will be interesting to see if Johjima gets some chin music the next time he steps up to the plate.
I agree. It does sound like something is wrong with Niehaus tonight. He sounds worse than normal.
See now THERE’S where you bunt!
That looked to me like it was going to be foul, though.
Then again, I’m not broadcasting from the booth.
why would Russell have been yelling at Joh?
It will be interesting to see if Johjima gets some chin music the next time he steps up to the plate.
What for? Did he grandstand after hitting the HR? Sour grapes?
86 and 87: He stood in the box for awhile after his home run. I think Johjima thought it might go foul but the catcher thought he was grandstanding.
what did Vin think?
The M’s have had two men on base at some point in each inning.
Anyone have any clue how the pitch location on Gameday is figured? Is it pretty accurate, or is it just guesswork?
I kind of wonder if you get more misunderstandings like that in interleague play. If they’d played against Johjima more, they’d probably realize he’s not exactly the boasting sort.
Colorado’s closer (I think he’s their closer) just blew it…
Oh look at that, he pitched 12 innings for the Ms in 01
Not only is he their closer, he’s a former M…
and he didn’t lose the game, oakland can still lose, now it’s 2-2 in the bot 9
91: It seems fairly accurate. However, sometimes it’s a little weird, like if a pitch is just outside, it may show it as just low.
vince scully is cool
Jarrod “Bandsaw” Washburn strikes again
The going recently got tough. I’m tough, but don’t know what to do. If only there was someone – an ex-football player, say – to give me timely advice.
Well sure he didn’t lose, but he certainly blew it.
Not only is he a closer and a former M, he was also thrown away by the M’s as a throw-in in the Cirillo trade. I still feel the knife wound in my pancreas from that one.
I’m just used to the guardado ‘lose it’
you know the 3-run dinger to put your team down 2 in the 9th.
so I had to check.
97: Yeah, its interesting comparing MLB and ESPN’s gamecast (which provides BAA and BA for particular pitchcounts too). The locations can differ quite a bit although they both depent on the same info, I;m sure.
Adam Jones jacks a three-run homer! 5-1 Tacoma.
104: Hey, ESPN’s gamecase is pretty cool! I’ve never seen it before. The ball flying about the field really makes you feel like you’re at the stadium! Kind of.
Side note: Dodgers are 6-8 against LHP. It’s not just us.
And Doyle with a nine-pitch walk. That’s our boy.
106: yeah, you could also check out CBS (sportsinsider or somesuch) they give pitch speeds and a guess at spin sometimes. This is what us out of marketers have to deal with…
Isn’t the game on ESPN for everyone? Or is it once again just certain markets a la fox? I am in Arizona and have it on ESPN…
It’s on ESPN out here in NY…
OAK @ COL tied 2-2 going into the top of the 11th.
OK, look, I also don’t have cable. Or a TV. All I have is the neighbor’s wireless, really.
It’s on KCAL 9 here in California.
DMZ: when the going gets tough, the tough send me a $500 check in the mail. I’ll send you my address.
I’ve got the internet mlb radio package, but the neighbor needs to crank up his signal a bit for me to really stream it.
NO!!!
Washburn blows.
Bummer. He was pitching so well.
Oh Boy! Olmedo.
That was my favorite Seafair hydro.
I’m telling you, Washburn pitches as though he feels an obligation of conscience to stick to his PECOTA.
a man has to stick to his guns, you know. And buy a big truck.
Washburn: Kenji, the going just got tough! I don’t know what to do…
Thirty-seven-point-five million.
Thirty-seven-point-five million.
Thirty-seven-point-five million.
Thirty-seven-point-five million.
Sigh.
Way to lose the game Washburn…and just as Oakland takes the lead
Johjima just went out and said Washburn you suck!
I feel bad for the guy… he took some tough losses early in the season. He reminds me of Ryan Franklin in that he’s occasionally a brilliant pitcher, but you’d never know cause he gets no support on those few occasions. Apparently it was the same with the Angels too.
TAKE HIM OUT!!!
Argh! 4 runs, and all with two outs.
make him throw slower
When was Ryan Franklin a brilliant pitcher? There were maybe a handful of high-K outings where he really dominated anyone.
#126 your being sarcastic right?
C-REX!!!!
#200 for Everett!!!
C-Rex, on the other hand, is a brilliant hitter.
That was Dino-mite!
Come on Ichiro, 20, 20, 20…yes!!!
I’d have to dig around to come up with them, but he had a good game or two against the Yanks back in 04, and I think he beat the braves that year. But he never was much of a strikeout kind of guy for sure.
Rally caps!
wow. first CC and then Ichiro…
mirabile visu
OAK wins 3-2 in 11 innings.
well, that’ll make them feel all perky, so they run off another 10 wins in a row….
Who cares about the A’s what about the hated Padres!
Tying run in scoring position!
That was weird.
Why bother to double-switch when the “hitter” you stick in the pitcher’s spot is batting a cool .121?
146. I am baffled by the logic of taking Johjima out.
Worst double switch ever! Double Switch Morse or Bloomquist for anyone. Pinch hit Petagine in the pitcher’s spot. Bad move.
REED!!!!!
Reed!!!!!!!!!!!!
holy shit, hell yeah!
Platoon that!
Jeremy “Babe” Reed!
REEEEEEEED!!!!
Hargrove is really a disaster.
Play the dude every day.
“NOW can I play against lefties, too, Skip?”
And now you can’t hit for Rivera, since you’re out of catchers. I guess Grover’s plan is for YuBet to hit one out here.
Is there something in the water in SoCal that makes Reed hit HRs?
Grover’s a genius, I tell you!
For some reason it really bugs me when Hargrove makes a stupid move but it magically works out…
Letting Soriano pitch two innings last night is now becoming more glaring.
Time for some agressive M’s baserunning to put a man in scoring position, no?
In fact, if Reed just gets better the further into California he gets, those Padres are dead in the water.
Now that’s organizational genius.
#162: I think we’re going to see Mateo in the 8th, or the double-switch is wasted.
Good things.
#163: Yep. Now time for the double-steal!
BELTRE!!!!!
Beautiful slide!
Great Slide, Ichiro!
Beltre!!!
That’s my man.
I love this Beltre character, when did we get him?
I can’t believe what I just saw!
Holy horseshoes!!
It’s time for the Chavez Ravine chant of 2004:
“M-V-P! M-V-P! M-V-P!”
What a slide!
Definitely safe.
Beltre’s gotta be pumped.
it’s very sad that so many of Hargrove’s moves could best be analysed by The Comic Book Guy.
boy, Beltre loves Dodger Stadium.
so, any suggestions for a book to give a 16 year old boy that aren’t all about teenage angst?
Nice slide, Ichiro!
I would like to point out that Valle’s advice on blocking the plate, though common practice, is illegal.
And with that hit, Beltre is up to .250.
179 – Catcher in the Rye. That’s about Johjima, right?
#179: “The Best of Penthouse Forum.”
Now we come to the situation where we are close to having Mateo bat.
Lopez too, wow!
Who ARE these guys? Who put pepper in their jocks?
Can we ask Selig to move the Mariners to the National League?
Good game, Baez.
Who are these guys!
184: You stole my joke.
188 – that almost happened in 96 or 97 but the fans fought it for Edgar’s sake. How times change.
#188: That was the plan about six or seven years ago: split the leagues geographically.
Nobody I know out here liked the idea.
So, yeah, where do we sign the petition to move us to the NL West?
Who ARE these guys?
I was just telling the wife how seldom it is you see an entire major league team taken over by alien brain-suckers who can play good baseball. Not unprecedented, of course, but still uncommon.
Is there any worse camera work in the MLB than what the Mariners have?
Ibanez, you’re killing the momentum.
Rizzs: “Grady just won’t give up the argument!”
Grady Little promptly turns and walks away.
196: Actually, I think that the stadiums provide their own camera work.
Dangit, got a phone call from an upset friend during that whole insane run attack. S’ok, though. It was so very fragile that it may not have happened if I’d been paying attention.
In his last five games Beltre is 10-for-21 with 10 runs and 7 RBI’s.
Who’s in trouble Reed?
Hmmm. Maybe Reed’s a platoon player after all.
203. There is no platoon.
Darn – I really wanted Reed to get a hit against the lefty, to put a little pressure on Hargrove to scrap the platoon.
#205: See #204. We were misinformed.
Man it really makes me mad that the game wasn’t on ESPN tonight like it was supposed to be. I mean how often is it even supposed to be on ESPN?
I’m glad its on ESPN down here in Arizona…
#200: Admonish your friend to better time her meltdowns.
I guess the whole Soriano conundrum was easier to figure out than I thought.
I guess it’s against the law to see the M’s in HD.
So, if the M’s tack on a run or three in the 9th, will Hargrove let Soriano finish the game again?
#208, Exactly… was just on the phone and was goin crazy. good to see ESPN having it on so at least SOME people can see this comeback, maybe give the M’s smaller names some respect.
#212 no if the team gets 3 more runs in the 9th. Eddie will be sent out there to even things up for the box score tomorrow.
#200: Get a new friend. Just consider the math: only 162 games in the regular season but there are nearly 7 billion people on the planet with whom you could make friends.
Moral: do not let so-called friends interfere with your baseball.
Friends come and go, but Mariner rallies are few and far between.
This is at least the third time this game that Howie came up first in the ads. I didn’t notice that so much until it got pointed out (by Deanna?)
Yeah, but seriously. I’m telling you, it would never have happened if I’d been paying close attention. A watched lineup never hits the longball.
Putz time!
How fast was that Dodger reliever throwing? Looked llike he was really sailing ‘em in there but part of that may have been his high drama delivery.
Deanna, Lauren, whatever. Chicks are mostly the same.
My bad, Lauren. I could have been smart and looked it up. Dumb male syndrome or something, I swear.
He gone!
BTW, I hate that phrase.
Putz is tossing some nasty stuff.
I think we may have a new mantra here– WWHLD
No worries… I’m more concerned with the fact that Putz’s goatee is starting to resemble Spiezio’s dyed job.
Hey, I’d expect someone with “token chick” in their name to understand when a guy gets confused by the presence of more than one woman on an internet sports site.
Jeez, Putz’s splitter is ridiculous.
What an absolutely rediculously amazing game. Mateo/Soriano/Putz Wow. And yea 228, his splitter was ON tonight. Just a very impressive victory.
228- It’s probably even more confusing when they actually know what they’re talking about.
#230– that’s crazy talk!
I think at the very least 6 check in pretty regularly….
1 game under .500!
MSB, I have been reading for years but rarely say anything. I’m still learning the world of sports, and I normally don’t feel like I have much to contribrute. But I love to learn and hear other’s opinions on stuff.
and we are always happy to have another voice
1 game under .500 AND Felix is pitching thursday against Tomko……
Mad Jenny is from Idaho, I note from that handy URL. I wonder if she’s ever been to McCall, and could verify some things we’ve heard.
You really want to hear more about McCall?
By the way, did anyone catch the horrifying-but-awesome quote from Ozzie Guillen after he called a Sun-Times columnist a fag? He defended himself with this awesome list: he has a) gay friends, b) has been to WNBA games, c) has been to a Madonna concert and d) plans to go to the Gay Games.
WNBA! Madonna! Oh, Ozzie.
Sometimes it really is worth it to go through an entire game log after a game has ended. Highlights…
Someone making the association between Kim Ng and TMBG’s song Anna Ng. As the Guinness guys would say, Brilliant! Love that song.
Vin Scully scolding Mike Hargrove on air for bunting… simply great. Scully probably knows more about optimum National League hitting strategy than any AL manager. It reminds me of Hargrove getting testy with the media in his World Series with Cleveland about all the questions surrounding managing strategy with pitchers in the lineup. At the time he claimed it wasn’t rocket science. Then he promptly blew his first double switch. What a tool!
The intermittent reports on the game in Tacoma. Thanks.
And finally, no one referring to Adrian as “Bustre”. Boy, that got old last year.
Oh, and all of you made it easy to read through the thread. Most comments from 2-5 lines long. No BelaTrdux in this one.
I’m a student living in Moscow, which is on the WA/ID boarder about 4 hours north-ish of McCall. Though I’ve driven through to Montana several times I’ve never really been that far into Idaho. I would be of no use to you for this task. Sorry.
#234 I also often don’t get home until the 7th inning or later so I’m playing catch up to see what HAS GONE on instead of reading what IS GOING on.
I don’t like going that far south in Idaho, either. Get too far and the streets are all numbered like Utah.
That Ozzie Guillen stuff is almost charmingly ignorant. I also liked the part where he said “fag” isn’t about gay people in Venezuela, it’s about calling a man a coward.
I just realized that I went through McCall after overnighting in Grangeville a couple of years back. Blanked it right from my short term memory for some reason. Not much going on in central Idaho, although the 2 or 3 people I spoke to on my trip certainly believe it’s God’s paradise on Earth.
Did anyone listen to The radio post game show? Dave Niehaus is just Hilarously crazy.
They all voted Adrian Beltre player of the game, Dave N. comes on and says… “I would like to hope on his back and ride him for awhile.” Obviously he means the Mariners can really benefit with him hitting good, but man, watch what you say.
238: Since the Chicago Sun-Times columnist he called a fag was Jay Mariotti, I think we can give him a free pass.
There are cultural differences in language. Ozzie dug himself into a huge hole but that part of his comment was the only insightful part of his entire dialogue. But by then he was just throwing darts while blindfolded.
Per cultural differences in language, in the U.S. the n-word is a racial epithet and considered rude and vulgar. In much of South America it is a perfectly acceptable word for describing people of dark skin.
this time, however, Ozzie did refrain from linking homosexuality and child abuse, though …. there is the classic response last year from White Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf after a fair numbe of Ozzie-isms:
“Ozzie is the Hispanic Jackie Mason,” Reinsdorf explained, when asked how he deals with Guillen’s talkative tendencies. “If you look at him in that light, you don’t worry about anything he says.”
updates: according to Drayer, it will be Lowe tomorrow and not Tomko, and I’m thinking I might go for Jim Morris’ book “The oldest rookie” for my nephew….
245: Possibly. I recognize the same word can have way different meanings depending on the culture, but I’d have a hard time believing “maricon” (or similar Spanish slang) doesn’t mean “coward” in the same way in Venezuela that “fag” can mean “weak” or “girlish” or “sissy” in the U.S. A 15-year-old might not literally be calling his friend gay when he throws a homophobic epithet at him, but he’s still using the negative associations with gay people to denigrate somone.
In this case, I’m not sure Guillen’s explanation of cultural differences is any more valid than him proving he’s not homophobic by rattling off a list of gay stereotypes he’s participated in.
Just got back from the game. I am so pumped to be an M’s fan now. Dodger Stadium is an experience with its laid-backness, its 8 dollar small beers, and its cholos, and the M’s made it a magical night — they have done me proud. Wish me luck, I’m gonna do my damndest to bring a broom into the stadium tomorrow! Give it up for duct-taping it to my back!
Not following, pablo. If the guy’s a dick, I’d much rather he be called a dick. This way I’m just on his side.
250: I wasn’t really debating the use of the word “fag” so much as I was just saying that Mariotti probably deserves any insult thrown his way.
By they way, Guillen has apologized.
249- Did you enjoy the 90 minutes it takes to get out of that godforsaken parking lot at Chavez Ravine also?
The Mariners are still undefeated in interleague play and might sweep the Dodgers.
Is this winning streak just a fluke or real? And are the Mariners contenders or pretenders for a playoff spot?
Maybe they should petition to be moved to the NL West.