Game 81, Rockies at Mariners
DMZ · June 30, 2006 at 6:04 pm · Filed Under Game Threads
RHP Josh Fogg v LHP Jamie Moyer.
The team returns home over .500, and what a great day for it. I’m tempted to hop on a bus and head on in. I’m curious to see if the M’s start to see walk-up ticket sales pick up now that they’re in the hunt.
I’m still a little hungover from last night, so if everyone could try and type quietly, that would help out a lot.
Everett returns to the lineup. We may see if the team’s recent tear was due to losing the DH.
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Fogg stinks. He’s a soggy-ball pitcher who doesn’t strike out many people, walks almost as many as he Ks, and has a 5.24 xFIP. He’s just a 40 percent groundballer.
I see about nine runs from the Mariners tonight. I’ll go with 9-3, Seattle.
DMZ, oh, sorry. dmz,
Does this mean there will be a longer leash on improper capitalizing?
I’m geting ddrunk in Emmett!!!11
w00t
hoepfully perez will get here an hit a hommer run!!!
My going-away party at Expedia was yesterday and it went way long. There was also drinking at lunch. And program managers… we’re a hard-drinking crowd. I had a really hard time getting up this morning, and I have the alcohol tolerance of a rhino.
i have thea lcohol tolerance of a fish!
I don’t think you really want to incur the ill-tempered wrath of a hungover site author there.
I like rath!
Going-away party? Where are you going to?
get drunk again so you wont have a ganhover! duh!
im bored and im leaving buy everybody.
The youth of America, ladies and gentlemen.
We killed a 2 liter bottle of sake last night….I woke up on the floor of some Belltown apartment at 5:30am.
Good times. Glad to hear I’m not the only hungover one here today.
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
Now, then, on to the game.
I am a big Brian Fuentes fan. Ex-M, nasty side-armer, and all-around cool guy. Hopefully, we won’t see him in this series.
Can Moyer baffle the Rox? Helton, Holliday, and company? I think so.
hey guys! PSYCH!
im s til lhere!
Fuentes was the aJeefff Cirillo dude right.. man that was a s tupid trade. Gillick is dum.
I quit Expedia is all.
what ever happened to a-ron taylero? he went to coloradoer right? and ;then he disppared.
Corco, I like you, and find you moderately entertaining more often than not. But right now you’re being a twerp. Pretending to be inebriated is even more stupid than most things people do when they ARE inebriated.
Could you please stop before you’re stopped?
what the heck woudl bigve you the indeicator that i’m faking int oxication?
Colorado’s batting Barmes at #2. Ugh.
Allright, that’s it. I swear to God, it’s like running a fucking daycare in here sometimes. Faaaaaaaahk.
Fogg has a 42/33 K/BB ratio. Ugly.
Moyer is at 56/24. Better.
Fogg is going to get lit up tonight.
Is this going to turn into the “I drank so much last night I almost frew up” thread?
Cool article over on BP about Adam Jones: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=5257
I am pretty fired up about that guy. I remember being really bummed when they drafted him — I thought he was going to be just another tools goof. I was wrong.
Close your eyes and guess who has more RBI, Crazy C or Yuni B…..
“Tools goof” … wasn’t that DMZ’s classic line from the Baseball Prospectus annual about Kenny Kelly? That still cracks me up.
I believe that’s three consecutive thread with links to the Adam Jones story. We’ve got a streak going!
The article was just that damn good.
quick look at numbers. For road games this year, Colorado is:
20 wins, 20 losses
batting .264, .334, .435
pitching 4.31 ERA
Fogg on the road is 3-3 with a 4.36
we can beat these guys? right?
We are the hottest team in the league. Of course we can beat these guys. We absolutely own the NL West. If we were in the NL West, this team would assault the 116-win season of a few years ago.
for comparison so far, seattle at home is:
22 wins, 17 losses
batting .266, .329, .408
pitching 4.08 ERA
Joel (Kal-El’s dad?) at home is 3-4 with a 5.44
yes, this doesn’t take into account the phenomenon we refer to as “Joon”
let’s keep it hot.
drat, tag, I’m it.
The difference between playing in Coors and in Safeco is like the difference between playing on the moon and in a blackhole. Rox have no chance because they won’t be able to adjust.
34: I hope you’re right. But Colorado is 4-2 at San Diego this year, scoring in double figures in three of those wins, so they’ve shown the ability to adjust to a pitcher’s park before.
#31 – We are not even close the hottest team in the league. Bos. Ton. Red. Sox. 12 wins in a row.
I love these Qwest ads “for what you could spend in coffee in a week…”
Soooo $0- many hundreds of dollars. That narrows it down. Thanks.
Better than Howie Long, though.
I’m really not looking forward to having Everett back in the lineup. Let’s just bat him ninth and pretend like he’s the pitcher.
Tour de France tomorrow, World Cup soccer, the M’s in contention, I’m unemployed: my cup overflows with sporting goodness.
Whoa… the pan of the camera across the stands wasn’t showing all that many people. Not too sure the walk ups are kicking in yet.
The Rockies are 9-3 against the AL and .500 on the road. The Rockies know how to hit down here on earth. I still think the M’s take 2 of 3 but it’s not going to be a cake walk.
Henderson thinks Perez is going to only be used off the bench. Wow.
DMZ – Was that a “Wow. Henderson’s a goofball.” or a “Wow. That’s what the club told Henderson they are going to do?”
Six .300 hitters in the Colorado lineup; are they really that good at hitting?
Aaahh… back to the home broadcast. Mark “Gracie” Grace was starting to get on my nerves the last couple of nights.
WTF is Henderson talking about? Is he trying to be funny, or is he serious?
I think Hendu doesn’t know that Montreal is no longer a major league team.
Dave N just gave up trying to explain that to him.
Wow. Even Niehaus couldn’t make sense of what Hendu was saying.
Note to Henderson: Montreal no longer has a baseball team. This is something you should probably know.
Is someone cutting off Henderson’s oxygen? This is hilariously awful.
DP’ll do ya’.
Bigger dipshit: Dave Valle or Dave Henderson? My vote is for Hendu because he is nearly intolerable.
Before the inning started, he said “we have more better teams in the American League.”
I figured it was just poorly phrased. Now I think he’s dumber than usual for some reason.
Yeah, his tangent about how the AL was now the Senior Circuit was baffling.
Um, did he just say “Southwest lineup.. airlines”…?
M’s fundraising idea: Sponsor a contest between Dave Henderson and Dave Valle to see who can swim farther out into the ocean. All wagering benefits Children’s Hospital, First Place, the Moyer Foundation and the Washburn Future Cashout Foundation.
45 – I started off with him getting on my nerves, then they kind of grew on me. Occasionally grating, but much more interesting content than Rizz, for example.
Of course, I’m still jonesing for Vin Scully. Not only does he have the best style going, he also had the best substance. I learned things about the Mariners I didn’t know from our guys… hard to work in good info between “Spiro, Ok-la-homa!”’s.
I enjoy the new Beltre.
OK, now he says if you have to go back on a ball in Colorado it is out of the ballpark.
Please don’t explain that to me.
He just continues to rip the ball.
#39-DMZ–Aggassi vs Nadal in Aggassi’s last Wimbledon also.
I am in seventh heaven with Beltre these days. He keeps this up and Bela has to mow my lawn for a month.*
Beltre now is 5th on the team in OPS, next target Lopez.
*Bela doesn’t know that yet.
Only 6 pitches for Fogg; not good.
So maybe I didn’t mind Mark Grace that much. I did like him better than San Diego’s color guy, at least.
Man, from the comments on here I am gonna keep playing Band of Horses at high volumes throughout the entire game and pass up any audio tonight.
Band of Horses is great. Definitely a way better alternative to Hendu. Unfortunately, their live show leaves a lot to be desired.
I wish I could mute Henderson only.
Wow, Hendu just keeps ripping off stream-of-consciousness commentary that reveals that he’s barely conscious. Brook-of-consciousness?
Trickle of conciousness? Drip?
More like sewer-of-consciousness.
Nah. It’s not *dirty*. It’s just insubstantial.
He just managed to argue that the Indians *gave away* Perez because they’re playing Martinez at first, and (somehow) the veteran Broussard… except that Perez is a veteran and… this is crazy. Someone needs to mute his mike.
Maybe not dirty, but his ideas are as good as excrement.
Fleecing doesn’t happen any more? Ask the Mets about Scott Kazmir for Victor Zambrano.
What’s the record for double plays in a game?
Brad “Misty Mountain” Hawpe.
“It interests me why Cleveland would acquire Cabrera when they already have Peralta?”
Because good GM’s will not operate only from need. If you can get the better end of the deal you take it, then orchestrate more deals if you want, with more valuable chips.
Too many baseball people manuever only out of need. And they will always be taken advantage of by those who don’t.
The individual record is four in each league. Haven’t found team or combined records yet.
#77: That’s why Boston didn’t hesitate to flip blue-chipper Andy Marte when its needs shifted.
“I wish I could mute Henderson only.”
That would be awesome. I’m calling TIVO.
They can market it as “The Rosie Perez” button.
Ronnie Belliard is 31, makes $4M, and isn’t hitting all that much. Cabrera’s a better glove than Peralta. They’ll move him to 2B and stick Cabrera at SS by the end of next year.
Maybe having Everett in the lineup isn’t too bad, bad why have him hit in front of Johjima? Kenji leads him in just about every major statistic.
Center field in Arizona is a big wall, right? How could you put a “basket” up there, Hendu?
Band of Horses is great. Definitely a way better alternative to Hendu. Unfortunately, their live show leaves a lot to be desired.
I’ll be seeing them next month sometime. I’ve passed up so many of their shows up to this point it’s silly. If they do suck Visqueen will chase the badness away.
Worst concert I’ve seen: Math and Physics Club. Eww.
OK, found those DP records.
Record for one team in a game is seven. Record for both teams combined is nine.
“No score” is one of Derek’s favorite phrases.
Dave was just about to say something I was actually interested in hearing and Hendu just totally interrupted him. Cut him off and went on a tangent about Colorado’s positioning… no actual analysis of course, but at least he stopped Dave from saying the only thing I was actually interested in hearing.
Bah.
Typical Cruceta outing so far:
2 1 2 2 1 3
Silverdale’s Todd Linden took him deep for a two-run dinger.
whoops. how do you quote someone?
I’ll be seeing them next month sometime. I’ve passed up so many of their shows up to this point it’s silly. If they do suck Visqueen will chase the badness away.
Capitol Hill Block Party, I assume? Should be great times, especially because Pretty Girls Make Graves are playing too.
With quotation marks.
C’mon, Hendu, make a train joke about Choo Freeman.
Also, Sosa didn’t hit upon moving to the AL because he was done as a player.
That works too.
you use the blockquote tag.
With quotation marks.
I guess italics is what I was looking for.
Valle’s present tense sentence fragments are worth the price of admission alone, bearing in mind that there is no price of admission.
Yeah, Capitol Hill Block Party. I really……really dislike Pretty Girls. Really.
Good to see Moyer in a rhythm… even if Hendu isn’t.
Jamie jerks Jamey’s chain. Nice.
Quick question for everyone–is Hendu comically bad or annoyingly bad?
Bronze Sombrero for Carroll.
Why does Best Damn Sports Show think that putting the word “damn” in everything will make it cool?
It doesn’t make it cool. It makes it damn cool.
Normally, Hendu is annoying. Tonight, he is almost entertaining.
Well, the Hit it Here Cafe looks pretty full.
You’re damn right, DMZ.
Somebody needs to remind Josh Fogg that he’s Josh Fogg.
From what I can gather from Gameday, it doesn’t seem like we’re hitting the ball very well.
Doyle-liciousness: 1-1 with an RBI single … now batting .277.
Hendu is annoying. He detracts from a wonderful night of baseball and as a result my beer remains in the fridge.
So what do we all think Dave was about to say when Hendu butted in?
He started, with Everett at bat, with “Well, I think with the Mariners trade today, the writing is on the wall-”
Hendu – “Say, look at the Rockies centerfielder!”
So what was Dave gonna say? Everett DFA? Petagine?
Ooh! Just remembered that I found out that a new coworker in marketing was Directly Responsible for coming up with the entire caterpillar-suit concept for Money Tree. Awesome.
Next thing you know, Howie Long will be my cubemate.
[www.m-w.com]
[blip!]
That’s gold, Lauren, the sort of thing you never let die.
“Hey, Caterpillar Guy!”
Lauren, did you immediately stab them to death with a pen? Because there’s no jury that would possibly convict you.
Gappy is way more annoying that the caterpillar.
Ooh! Just remembered that I found out that a new coworker in marketing was Directly Responsible for coming up with the entire caterpillar-suit concept for Money Tree. Awesome.
Why would anyone want to admit that?
I vote Hendu. Caterpillar only gets short spots.
How many 3-2 counst has Jamie had so far? Jeez.
You can check out his credentials in the classics too — “Nice catepillar ad, but frankly it was a little Lewis Carrol derivative for my taste.”
OMG Henderson just said that “Jamie Moyer has a tight umpire…”
How does Hendu know? This is shocking! And on a family broadcast!
Get it? It’s Money Tree, and he’s a caterpillar.
118. Gappy…That’s classic Pablothegreat!
Of course, don’t pronounce ‘caterpillar’ the way I spell it.
112 John in LA…He sounded like he was going to say Perez would DH against left
handers. Hargrove said so in pre-game interview.
Because there’s no jury that would possibly convict you.
Especially if she uses Johnny Cochran’s legendary “Chewbacca Defense.” However, I hear that it’s really hard to get a hold of Johnny Cochran these days.
I’ll be happy when this poker fad is over. Watching televised poker is a certain cure for insomnia.
Instead, go with Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer.
I swear the production people are intentionally screwing up the Aflac duck cues to mess with Dave. It’s cruel and they should be ashamed.
How come Niehuas never calls the duck “Clyde” anymore?
129 do you play poker? If you played, I’m sure you wouldn’t find it boring.
The Ikea Children’s Hospital. “Ya don’t have to be rich, just sick!”
The guy seemed to be well aware of the badness of the ads, but it’s true in advertising that hey, if something works with the public… and frankly, given the sort of copy I work on, I had little room to talk.
This is appearing to be another one of those no-name bad pitchers who stymies us.
Watching poker on TV is just as exciting as watching golf or bowling on TV.
Texas just won, and Lopez got out; two bad things.
Doyle with another RBI single.
Lauren, is your co-worker connected to Banner Bank?
The third time around the batting order should produce different results. Fogg is not know for throwing shutouts.
139, in some way, we’re ALL connected to the same bank.
We’re all connected in some way to Banner Bank.
ARI leads OAK 1-0 in the 3rd.
Doyle: 2-2, 2 RBIs. 2-2 game in the fourth.
Looks like the bullpen’s going to be busy tonight.
141, 142… very nice.
Dan: No, but he had a brief fling with Bucky Jacobsen once.
HEYOoooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I find Hendu comically bad, personally. Plus he makes me appreciate Fairly more, though that sentiment might qualify for the second or third definition of “damning with faint praise.”
I like watching poker on tv.
And I don’t think people watching baseball should complain about boring tv sports… not because baseball is boring, but because it sounds a little like pass the snobbery.
Crapola. Ok, where’s this vaunted offense of ours.
BTW, is Perez here yet? If not, what’s his ETA?
Bummer. Hendu now talks about how hard it is it get a guy out three times in a row.
I can’t believe Moyer is sporting a 3.45 ERA this year. Awesome.
Tomorrow for Perez.
Those leadoff walks, they always come around to score (unless they don’t).
Who said it?
151 – Dave said in an earlier thread that he reports tomorrow.
154 – Dave N.?
154. Sounds like Fairly.
So, brief poll: This weekend, there is a blues festival in Portland. The bad news is, it’s been fairly hot down there (90 today), and this is an outdoor festival with no shade whatsoever.
Do I head down, broil in the hot sun and listen to songs about how the guy’s baby left him?
How about that guy with the egg carton hat? Talk about your advertising ideas.
Probably. Just pack plenty of sunscreen.
158: Just go swim in the Willamette River to cool yourself off.
I wish somebody would ask Hendu about the role of bunting in the National League. He probably has something to say.
Dbacks chipping away at Oakland… 3-0. Cool.
Whew, a baserunner.
Raul with the leadoff walk. He’s totally gonna score. They only way he doesn’t score is if he doesn’t reach home plate before three outs.
It always seems that Richie only hits into double plays with runners on, and strikes out when there are no runners on.
Richie totally hits into another double play.
“That’s why they call it the hot corner.”
And that’s why you make the big bucks, Hendu.
What the hell is Everett swinging at?
See, that right there is a textbook sacrifice situation. They’re called “productive” outs, not “unproductive” outs.
the sad thing is that this is Sexson’s ‘good’ month… he’s over 250 with 8 dingers…
I always come back from commercial breaks hoping that they’ll announce Hargrove put Everett out of his misery.
Jesus, 45 pitches for Fogg through 5.
Hendu,
You start a conversation you can’t even finish it.
You’re talkin’ a lot, but you’re not sayin’ anything.
This inning boosts Fogg’s pitch count up to 51.
Excuse me, 51 pitches through 5.
My favorite Hendu tonight was his disquisition on apparent pitch size as an indicator of strikes and balls: “If it looks like a golfball it’s probably a ball but if it looks like a softball it’s probably coming right down the middle.”
So much for Ted William’s vaunted eyesight. Hell, anybody can tell the difference between a golfball and a softball.
174 – Fa fa fa fa fa, fa fa fa fa fa?
#153: You could say that Moyer’s ERA is an unsustainable illusion, as his Fielding Independent ERA is 5.20. But you could also say that the illusions — his park and his infield defense — are very real, so he may just float along as he has until season’s end. Or maybe he’ll stop being lucky. Who knows?
175–Is that opposed to an inning that boosts his pitch count down to 51?
Sorry, xFIP, not FIP.
This is starting to feel like “one of THOSE games.” You know, where absolutely nothing happens on offense until the 8th inning and no one even hits it to the warning track. A great starting peformance could be wasted again from Moyer.
I honestly had forgotten what one of those feels like, since we haven’t laid an egg at the Safe or anywhere else for quite some time.
Lets hope the bats wake up or hearing FSN and Krueger talk about “it was just great pitching” about (GULP) Josh Fogg is just too much to take.
Josh Fogg? Ugh
174. He may be psycho, but I don’t think he’s got the guts to be a killer.
173. Is that a prayer?
Everett obviously can’t play the field, can’t hit lefties and can’t run and can’t hit with RISP.
Can someone tell me exactly what he DOES do that “helps” the team?
#184: It’s like a little prayer.
The best part of the rotation is the duplication of commentary.
Memo to Henderson: your audience is not the guy to your left. You don’t need to make sure the play-by-play guy is caught up on your stories.
He’s a veteran with presence.
185. Everett is a great source of amusement for the M’s in regards to his denial of the existence of dinosaurs.
185. tWo walkoff hommers!! lol
I think Julio Franco played while there were still a few dinosaurs left, lol
Maybe he can consult him?
Jim–Do you stand by your prediction?
Can anyone else believe that a team THIS hot can really be shut down completely by Josh Fogg?
We’ll break out against him soon…uh…I hope
“You can’t block it from the umps not to see…”
I think we need to start active boycott campaigns on Ford, Safeco, Banner and whoever else are FSN sponsors to encourage FSN Northwest to come to terms on HD broadcasts for the Mariner games.
Good job, Kenji. Now Fogg’s pitched to one batter above the minimum. We’ll see how long that lasts.
I say let Reed hit away 3-0
You didn’t think I was serious, did ya?
“Figure out baseball, tell me about it!” — Dave Henderson
Dear Dave,
When you pay me your salary to do your job, I’ll do it. Until then, would you please shut up.
Derek
Jamie..Jeremy. Hendu has been watching too many episodes of Daria on The N.
That was an unusual double play.
196: Approximately 2 minutes.
Reed’s ineptness at the plate never ceases to amaze…sigh
.224 and making TWO outs at a time now apparently.
Geez, we’re out of the inning before I can even type this. Is that a bad sign?
In happier news, the D’Backs are up 3-0 on the A’s.
There would be a lot more double plays in this game, if there were more baserunners.
Nah, we’d find a way to strikeout a few times too
Have we even gotten a man to second base?
205: I don’t think so.
“Well I like the number you start the game out with…”
What? What is Henderson on tonight? Is he high? Seriously, is he high?
The thing is, the baseball gods abhor a vacuum in the losses column. Really, no team , no matter how great, goes and wins twenty in a row, except maybe the Angels once and I still think there was foul play involved there (the long arm of Disney). I mean, the really good teams will go on a roll and sweep a couple of series in a row, sure. But lets face it, while the M’s have started to play more to their ability, they are not one of the great teams this season, no matter how hot Beltre gets.
At long last, my point is this. They were bound to lose one game this week. This may be it. Maybe not. Personally, I;d rather get it out of the way and got nback to winning. Sad that it wastes Moyer’s effort.
207. Too much sun exposure for Hendu during his golf outings.
“That’s the definition of a starting pitcher: hang in long enough.”
-Rizzs
No. I believe that the definition of a starting pitcher is a pitcher that starts games.
I shouldn’t focus on how its Fogg slamming the door EVERY inning. Every now and again, we get in these funks at home where ANYONE can have their way with us. Remember, hot streak notwithstanding, we have been shut out more than anyone in the AL by far, if I’m not mistaken.
I still think were too good to let guys do this to us though.
208. baseball gods? Who are these baseball gods?
Hendu should be happy, since he cheers for the hitters.
I wonder if “Hawpe!” is the noise that Moyer made when he saw how hard that was hit.
212. They’re the ones that let the Red Sox win in ‘04.
That women with the moose horns is scary!
Yesterday, the M’s had what, 6 hits?
That’s carrying over to tonight.
Mateo is warming up? Come on Hargrove, don’t give up on the game so soon.
Hendu talking about how the ball carries so well now. Funny how he doesn’t bother to mention how that makes tonight’s ghastly offensive performance even less excusable then.
216
LOL…I totally agree and cringe
219, apparently it’s only hot when the Rockies are at bat.
Alright, who voted for the Angels in the poll?
At least there’s enough responses now that it rounds out to zero percent.
From the AP story on the Perez trade:
Asked specifically where the Mariners needed more help, Bavasi replied, “That’s a hard question to answer because I don’t want to.”
This rapidly spreading “lol” infection is irritating.
I think DMZ is Bavasi’s speechwriter.
That was frightening.
Hendu: correrelate to the brain.
Huh?
Maybe Hendu is Bavasi’s speechwriter.
What’s irritating is the list of lame excuses the FSNW crew is no doubt, compiling right now to justify how a team playing its best ball in three years forgot to show up against an extremely mediocre pitcher.
There is only one god, and his name is Allah. Also Abner Doubleday. And Chadwick, Henry. A trinity, if you will.
Why did Ichiro swing at the first pitch?
Geez, the M’s already had an out when the inning started.
Why would they even consider lifting Fogg?
Oh no! Ichiro might extend his one game hitless streak to two.
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God, that guitar riff they play as the fade-out to commercials is slowly driving me insane. It sounds like the end theme to an Adam Sandler movie where everything has worked out and Adam Sandler is kissing the girl right before it goes to black. It’s jarringly, inexplicably inappropriate in the context of a baseball game, I don’t know why, it just is.
Also it’s totally stuck in my head.
sorry bout the typos, its datk here.
Waiting 8 innings for the Ms to score is starting to fray my nerves.
I like how there’s no blame on the inept hitting today, as Rizzs states with awe and wonder, “Man, what a pitching performance from Fogg today!”
Yeah, like rarely working the count, not hit and running even once (with the few chances we’ve had) and swinging at some bad balls has NOTHING to do with it.
238: I think you’re going to be waiting longer than 8 innings. I just have a gut feeling based on the M’s preformance tonight.
Top Three Tacoma goodness:
— Choo: 3-3, 3 runs
— Jones: 2-3, run, RBI
— Doyle 2-2, 3 RBI
236. That guitar riff is pure American cheese.
I guess the boycott idea needs work. Main problem appears to be Viagra’s a sponsor here.
Oh, and Cruceta:
4.2 3 2 2 2 8
The second inning was Fogg’s most taxing inning so far, for it was in that inning that he threw his game-high 14 pitches.
A LOT of 1st pitch swining by both teams.
Is there a party after the game that both teams are worried about being late for?
[turn the lights on or something]
246
Were hitting like our “bulbs are dim”
Maybe we can sign up to each boycott a different advertiser.
I pick Money Tree.
I think Hargrove should send out another bench player and bring up another pitcher. There aren’t enough pitchers in the bullpen if the M’s have to play a game that goes 35 innings.
I pick all of the truck companies.
Ya’ll are strict.
Why is it hard to type in the dark? It’s not like the keys randomly rearrange themselves, or you can’t see when you’ve made a typo.
Are they going to at least give us a chance by putting in Mesa?
Please bring in Jose Mesa!
When did Joe Blanton get traded to the Rockies?
My typing accuracy correlates with M’s hitting. Wow, a sentence – maybe there will be a hit in this inning.
I’m wearing a full body vinyl catsuit with a complete hood right now, and I type awesome!
Classic Sexson ab:
Take a strike over the heart of the plate
Swing at the next one in the dirt
At least he’s TRYING to break Fogg’s rhythm. No one else has been smart enough to do that
[no, no, no]
Around the world in eight innings with Josh “Phineas” Fogg ….
258: what’s your day job?
May as well start the Howie Long annoying Chevy commercial, since Everett is up
Jim: That’s Phileas. Tsk.
At least I have Brian Fuentes on my fantasy team. Although with Fogg’s microscopic pitch count, we might not see him.
Ah, librarian.
Does Moyer always sprint to the mound to start the inning?
Or was he doing it so that he got out there before Grover changed his mind?
Hopefully we can make Fogg pitch to at least one batter over the minimum.
If we had HD on this FSN Northwest broadcast we could get a really decent look at Angie Mentink’s cleavage tonight, but NOOOOOOOO.
BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT!
the truth is tough to take gentlemen
What is with the gutter talk tonight? Reel it back in, folks, reel it back in.
BTW, why did she have to change her name when she got married? Angie Arlati rolled off the tongue so much better.
This could be one of those rare done-before-9:00 games.
oh yeah, right… 1995! refuse to lose! 27 outs! wait, that’s carl’s line. Shit.
we started on skid row, if i remember right. drunk gaurdians. let’s not be hypocritical
The Mariners are doing their Astros imitation tonight.
What does Guardado have to do with this?
This game could easily come in at under two hours.
Moyer = 116 pitches
It’s been a nice day in second place though.
Nice inning by Moyer.
I didn’t think Nick’s sex comment was that bad. Hell, more interesting than anything the M’s are doing at the plate. I vote for deleting the lol’ers instead.
I have a bad feeling about the bottom of the 9th, but I choose to believe we’ll get a walk, a double, and a HR. Go Mariners.
I’m sorry, but if you’re going to be tasteless, you have to be funny.
Awesome. Johjima swings at ball 4 on a 3-0 count.
Josh Fogg? Honestly. Josh F’ing Fogg?!!
Well, at least the rest of the West (except for Texas) isn’t faring much better.
Time for Yuni to hit a homerun that travels so fast it goes back in time and puts Reed and Johjima on base.
Damn, that wasn’t it.
That Freddy Garcia trade is starting to resemble the Griffey deal. No return.
“Try to explain baseball to someone from a foreign country.”
Baseball is played all over the world, Hendu.
As Ichiro goes, so go the Mariners.
That game sucked.
And that is how it ends. A whimper.
Gosh, that was pathetic.
“Try to explain baseball to someone from a foreign country.”
Yeah, there’s this guy named Sadaharu Oh, I bet he knows nothing about the sport.
I think losing to this guy isn’t as bad as losing to blanton. This guy, he at least seems like a nice guy. Blanton just looks like a schoolyard bully.
dmz, you rule with a frighteninng fist
289 + 294: or like Ichiro. Or Betancourt.
I can’t believe Henderson said that. That’s stunning idiocy. If Henderson was smarter, it could be offensive.
No fisting talk.
[that's it, you're gone]
Oh well. Every team plays like junk sometimes. I’ll start worrying again if they look this bad a week from now.
By 4.84 ERA, did Krueger mean 5.08 ERA?
Since the game is over I can watch John Rocker on “Quite Frankly with Stephen A. Smith.” I am going to be retarded at the end of this interview.
Josh Fogg turned the Mariners into the Mantoers. Scary.
I bet Rocker also has a hard time explaining baseball to someone from a foreign country
291
Summed it up perfectly
Fwiw, a contending team would be embarrased by what happened tonight.
300. My expectations concerning Morse are minimal.
303. John Rocker and Stephen A. Smith together. Man that’s obnoxious!
305: Probably because he never willingly comes within speaking distance of them.
“Asdrubal? Did his mother hate him or something?” I love Angie (as is obvious I suppose).
Greetings from England.
Let’s join the National League!!! What the hell was that all about? This team has more up’s and down’s than a yo-yo.
Glad to see Sexson pulled his weight again though.
Love you all
I don’t think they use apostrophes for plurals in England.
Apparently some places they do.
Ok guys it’s 5:15 in the morning and I’m tired.
I fell asleep. What happened?
He’s from the part of England where they don’t read Eats, Shoots, and Leaves.
By the way, leaving on MLB.tv led to some funky feeds from the postgame show.
Let’s end this thread the way it started. Fogg Stinks?
316: So is the other Ed finally posting at the same time I am, or am I seeing things?
There’s a good story to be written about all the mediocre pitchers who have mesmerized the M’s over the past few years. I might be motivated to do all the research on that for my column.
The problem is … what conclusions can you draw from it?
Hopefully, “this topic allowed me to fill x column inches”
The John Rocker-Stephen A. Smith interview is over and I am just now able to grasp the high level of discourse acheived throughout the interview. Some highlights:
Rocker believes in a Hobbesian state of nature, whereas Smith prefers Rousseau’s version.
Rocker thinks that the war in Iraq is good because liberal regimes rarely go to war with one another. Smith believes that the war has a negative effect on the balance of power in the Middle East.
Both agreed that they are massive tools.
Great now the Mariners have their two worst starters starting the next two games, Pineiro and Washburn.
Good news from Tacoma:
— Choo: 5 3 4 3
— Doyle: 4 0 3 3
— Cruceta: 7 4 3 3 2 11
Oh man, I think I’m glad that I took that nap instead of watching the game. And pablo, how could you have honestly watched that? Steven A. is like the worst sports show guy ever.
No disposable income to go to M’s games this year but I lucked into some freebies right behind the third base dugout tonight. Perfect night for baseball. Then this. Feh.
Had to laugh, though, when I get home to check out the game thread and see this from Mr Thomsen in the 1 slot:
“Fogg stinks. He’s a soggy-ball pitcher who doesn’t strike out many people, walks almost as many as he Ks, and has a 5.24 xFIP. He’s just a 40 percent groundballer. I see about nine runs from the Mariners tonight. I’ll go with 9-3, Seattle.”
*sigh*
323: I didn’t. Post 320 is fiction. All of it.
Actually, since I didn’t watch it, I suppose Smith and Rocker could have talked about all those things, but I doubt it.
#319– ah, the Jim Moore School of Journalism…
so, I see the one benefit of being at the game was missing Hendu…
what else…
Angie Arlati prob. changed her name to Mentink as Arlati was her previous married name….
ah, Josh Fogg. and it really helped the frustration of watching in the later inning to listen to Dave tell us that he had no previous shut-outs, only one complete game, usually gives up lotsa runs this year (leading to my favorite Neihaus line tonight: “traditionally he gives up 5 runs per game … when is he going to start?!?”
I blame this loss totally on Dave Henderson and El Guapo. Dave starts off by saying we should score some runs tonight against Fogg. Well we didn’t and than he flip flops in the 6th and says he expected this with the ERA the Rockies have over the last few weeks. Cant Stand Hendu. Plus, Why not Dave Valle? We were on a roll with him. I would like to see our record with Hendu broadcasting. And Guardado is too blame just because, he probally kept everyone up last night playing some pranks on guys in the plane while they were trying to sleep. Dang that Guardado. I vote for no more HENDU!
#327, I see your point re: Angie
http://www.amiannoying.com/2002/view.aspx?ID=6382
Hmmm, Angie Marzetta (still better than Mentink, but at least those monogrammed towels still work – and who wants the initials AA anyway?)
Hey guys, I have been reading the site for a while but just decided to register today. I was at the game today and it was pretty weird. Fogg’s line, if I remember right, was 9 IP, 2 hits, 1 walk and 1 K, all on about 90 pitches. I thought it was an atrocious decision to let Reed swing the bat on 3-1 grounding into a double play and then again not pinch hit for him in the bottom of the 9th.
My question is this. I keep hearing about Hargrove’s unwillingness to use the bench. Does anyone know of any data to support this or is it more of an overall, holistic, subjective impression kind of thing? I imagine that people don’t really keep stats on managers’ use of pinch hitters, but it seems weird to me that Hargrove is such a passive manager with regard to pinch hitting and making substitutions, and yet so (over)active with regard to Aggressive Baserunning. Anyway, that’s my rookie question and/or 2 cents.
I’ll be in the corner waiting to be hit over the head with arcane statistics… /ducks a wildly thrown xFIP
All I know is Pineiro would probably no hit the Mariners.
They can hit Peavy, Schimdt, etc…but not guys who throw slow breaking balls and lots of strikes.
I think when they see the hard throwers they go with the pitches more…and when they face these mediocre pitchers they TRY to hit doubles and home runs.
I can’t figure it out.
#330 – No one has done any stats on it (or at least I don’t know of any), but it’s pretty obvious he doesn’t use the bench. Look how long Petagine went without an AB.
including last night in the 9th….
Of course, when Hargrove got to play with his new toy (double switch) Lopez and Beltre were pulled from the same game just to avoid the pitcher’s spot in the lineup. I’m not a mathematician but I’d have to say that losing offense and defense (especially in a close game) covers for more than the slight gain had by electing to avoid the pitcher’s spot instead of pinch hitting for the pitcher.
Obviously certain situations would beg other actions, but to pull out star players (one of whom was getting into his “tear” of the last year and a half) and to replace them with mediocre subs is laughable, or it would be if it weren’t so patheticly moronic.
Thehiddentrack said: “I think when they see the hard throwers they go with the pitches more…and when they face these mediocre pitchers they TRY to hit doubles and home runs.”
Bill Krueger’s theory last night for why the M’s didn’t pound Josh Fogg was that the M’s flew home after the late game Thursday and they were tired. Plausible, but not probable.
That doesn’t explain why they only looked at 91 pitches (including a BB and a K) over 9 innings, barely letting Jamie Moyer wipe the sweat off his brow before he had to go out and pitch again.
Where were our coaches and manager? After 4 or more innings of watching the guys swing at the first pitch for an out, isn’t it their JOB to say “take a couple of pitches why don’t you?” just to remind the hitters they’re home now, they don’t have a plane to catch….? Or did all this happen so fast (1 hr. 52 min) that the manager and coaches didn’t realize what was happening until the game was over?
Idiots.
SEXY RICHIE – Someone predicted a while back that one of our broadcasters–with their penchant of adding the ee sound to the end of a player’s name–would eventually call SEXSON, SEXY.
Well, it’s happened. The last two nights, on the radio broadcst, DAVE NIEHAUS said, “Here comes Sexy.”
(First the double-switch; now this.)
Armageddon is just around the corner.
I refuse to call him Sexy until he starts batting at least .240.
I don’t know if anyone is still reading this thread, but if you are, you may want to take a look at the box score of this afternoon’s ARI@OAK game.
#336 – where have you been? They’ve been doing that pretty much since he got here.
#338- Ive been watching the box score also…right about now i wish i bought the MLB package damnit
340: All the games are blacked out while FOX does broadcasts, so it wouldn’t matter.
Frank Thomas just hit a home run after a walk. Miguel Batista’s perfect game, ho-hitter, and shut out are over.
NOOOOOOOOO!!! Thats too bad with one swing of the bat the no hitters gone and so is the shutout…I hate you Frank Thomas
#337: I refuse to cally him “Sexy” until I “switch teams.”
#339– they’ve been doing that since Charlie Manuel dubbed Richie that back in the Cleveland days….
So, this is what the A’s do against the team the Mariners just swept in grand fashion. Oh, and the A’s are at home for this. Their pitching is awful today, and their offense, redefining the word pathetic (granted, right after the M’s redefined it last night).
Go D’backs!