Game 100, Blue Jays at Mariners
DMZ · July 25, 2006 at 6:22 pm · Filed Under Game Threads
7:05, Halladay v Meche.
Notes: Lopez returns, bats 3rd. Everett’s still the designated out-maker, batting ahead three people who hit better than he has.
So let’s look at the Blue Jays lineup for a second
CF-R Reed Johnson
LF-L Frank Catalanotto
1B-L Lyle Overbay
3B-R Troy Glaus
C-B Gregg Zaun
RF-L Eric Hinske
DH-R Bengie Molina (whaaat?)
2B-R Aaron Hill
SS-R John MacDonald
There are some weird choices in there, too.
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I had a similar reaction:
Molina?
Whaaaaa?
He kills lefties, but Meche is a normal person. Does not compute.
Looks like Vernon Wells’ back is still tweaked.
yup. precautionary, they say.
hey! Kaz is throwing out tonight’s first pitch– just being interviewed on the pre-game show, and he looks like he’s been enjoying life’s pleasures since retiring … all he needed to complete the look is a fine floral Hawaiian shirt.
2: That breaks my heart.
Re: #3 — I have a hunch that Kaz has always enjoyed life’s pleasures.
P.S. Instead of throwing a pitch, he should chop a radish in half like he did to open an episode of Iron Chef Japan.
He should use his splitter to chop a radish in half.
How often do you get a ceremonial first pitch thrown by someone who can (still) actually pitch?
Kaz claims he’s just going to throw a lob pitch….
Angels lose! Texas losing! Oakland…hasn’t started yet!
Kaz looks like he’s been eating a lot of sushi. A LOT.
Well, I wouldn’t expect him to warm up and throw heat or anything. But I do expect he’ll have the range to reach the catcher and the accuracy to not to make him chase it. In other words, it’ll look like a pitch, not like Manny playing the outfield.
In the pregame interview, Hargrove referred twice to Jose’s wife, but earlier today a post indicated that Jose wasn’t married. What’s the deal? Was he married very recently (like this past weekend) or is Hargrove just covering Jose’s tracks?
Hmmm.. Kaz. Did anyone ever get to the bottom of the suitcase-on-the-stairs incident?
I don’t think you can get fat eating sushi. I expect it’s more along the lines of Kobe beef. Or maybe just a lot of ice cream sundaes.
Maybe he’s training for a second career in Sumo.
12. From the Seattle Times (7/25/06)
Lopez has son
Jose Lopez’s quick trip home to Venezuela was for the birth of his first child, Jose Jr.
Back with the team Monday but out of the starting lineup, Lopez said baby and mother, Katerina Castillo, are doing well.
“The baby was born on Friday morning, 7 pounds,” Lopez said. “A second baseman, maybe.”
Lopez said all went well with the birth, and he got to hold his son, the first time he had ever held a baby.
“I was scared,” he said. “I’ll get used to it.”
Lopez thought Hargrove’s decision to hold him out of the lineup was a good idea.
“I got no sleep Saturday,” the second baseman said. “The baby cried all night.”
Sushi? Man all that rice bro. Pure carbs! And if it’s the tempura rolls I bet you could pack it on.
There are about 142 different versions of the Sasaki-stairs story – you pick which one you believe. They pretty much all involve him being drunk and getting in a fight, though.
The media has been careful to specifically not call her Jose’s wife. The PI called her “girlfriend” and the Times called her the child’s mother. Hargrove was either being old-fashioned or just careless.
say, isnb’t it usually about this time of year when the trade winds pick up Gil in their annual gusts that he turns in a real stinker or three, to just completely undercut any chance of moving him?
Honestly, there’s a really good chance that Hargrove doesn’t even know Lopez isn’t married.
18. Old-fashioned? Careless?
Beltre and Lopez exchanged a fist pound and a laugh at the end of that inning if you did not catch it. I guess either they are over the scuffle or there was never one.
I think it’s excellent of Lopez to be showing his responsibility as a father despite not being married. Good for him.
The rice-to-fish ratio (and hence carbs to protein) is pretty low in any decent sushi. And I don’t think you’ll get very fat eating a lot of rice anyway. Due to financial circumstances I spent a couple of months in college eating very little but rice — a lot of rice — and I lost weight.
Based on the Lopez-Beltre smile-in at the end of the top of the 1st, it looks like there was nothing to the fight! except some friendly playing. Or they made up.
Yeah, it’s certainly a step above the “child in every NBA city” thing we’ve seen with certain pro athletes.
#21 — see #12
I think Lopez and Beltre probably “made up” by the next inning last night. Anyway, according to my theory (see #167) they have nothing to mad about now that Bloomquist isn’t hitting ahead of Beltre.
Excellent.
Wasn’t that a curveball?
Yes. Yes it was.
That was one of the biggest, loopiest curves you’ll see Meche throw, and Dave went through every pitch in the book trying to figure out what it was. Poor guy.
Four seamer, Dave, that was a four seamer.
#17. That’s surprising, but I’ve been abroad a lot. Was the fight after overtippling at a sake bar? A fight with a teammate? It’s hard to imagine.
Dave could still call a game better legally blind, than Rizzs could if he had Clark Kent’s abilities.
Niehaus’s ability to call a pitch disappeared about 5 years ago – and it was shaky then. But, he can still break out the rye bread and mustard grandma!
Ladies and germs, the #5 and #6 hitters for your AL West contending Seattle Mariners.
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At least that means we have better hitters hitting in front of Ichiro.
Did anyone notice Sexson sweeping off the plate with his hands after strking out? Interesting reaction to a whiff.
It’s the heart of the lineup. The cold, dead heart.
I think Felix is one of the few pitchers who can actually throw a 95 mph two seamer.
Meche is looking pretty good so far, great curveball.
Too bad Meche can’t throw that nasty curve with more consistency. Reminds me of a Erik Hanson’s curve, just pure 12-6 action
We really caught a break getting the Jays without Rios or Wells. But we couldn’t avoid Halladay, and that is our likely undoing tonight.
He’s gonna be meat!
I think the book on Adam Jones is out – breaking balls, breaking balls, and more breaking balls.
Jones apparently isn’t ready for Halliday. Granted, neither is most of our line up today. But who in the majors is, I suppose?
Did that even qualify as a swing?
Can’t keep first pitch swinging or we’ll be gettin’ a full does of Roy in the 8th instead of one of their relievers.
I know that most of you are stats geeks here, but I haven’t seen the impact of the homer discussed. While I’m not a believer in Hargrove’s 90’s Indian’s longball theory, here is the Mariner’s W-L record when homers are hit. SY = Seattle Yes / ON = Opponent No, and so forth. The bottom percentage is percent of games with said outcome. Uh I’m sure you can figure out the stats.
O.k that formatting didn’t work, sorry just ignore.
I fixed the formatting for you.
I know that most of you are stats geeks here
Always a good first line when you’re then going to ask for help…
but I haven’t seen the impact of the homer discussed.
Home Runs = Good.
here is the Mariner’s W-L record when homers are hit
Correlation does not equal causation. That said, if you hit a home run, you can’t be shutout, and so you’re automatically eliminating a subset of losses from the equation. I’d imagine every team in baseball has a chart that is similar.
I know, but when they hit a home run, regardless of the score and the inning, I know they have a chance, 69.6% winning percentage doesn’t lie.
M’s tend to win more games when they score more runs. Homers = runs. Also, if they’re hitting homers they’re probably getting other hits too (IOW, more homers = worse pitching by the opponent, call it the Ryan Franklin effect).
If the stat said that they were 14-0 in games where they homered on Thursdays when wearing the alternate uniform, and then this Thursday, they wore the alternate uniform and Ichiro went yard to lead off the game, would you turn off the TV knowing that the game was over?
No? Good.
also, Stats Geek is not a put down, I consider it a compliment, I apologise full-heartedly for my lack of courtesy.
That was a changeup, Dave. But Valle called it right. I’m gonna have to say that Meche’s stuff has been faster with better movement than Dave claimed in the other post today.
Stat Geek is a compliment? Really?
Well, then, thanks for the compliment – we’ll try to take it as it was intended.
I’m gonna have to say that Meche’s stuff has been faster with better movement than Dave claimed in the other post today.
The Blue Jays have helped him out quite a bit so far – they’re chasing some terrible pitches. His curve has been better than usual today, but there’s no excuse for several of the swings they’ve taken so far.
Did Gil really just throw 95-mph?
Dave, I would never turn off the Mariners, remember that sure-fire win against the Indians a couple years ago, I watched the whole game, every last heart-breaking minute of it, go talk to Yogi, fans don’t turn off the game, they just get bumped off my mlb.tv
By the way I love this site, and the fact that government proxys think it is a naval website and not a blogging site.
We win 100% of the games in which we pitch a shutout. We should pitch more shutouts.
Could the radar gun be right? Meche throwing 95/06?
The FSN Tracer registered 95, but title block at the top of the TV screen showed 94. On the title block, Meche has been 94-96 today.
Although Hargrove could probably find a way to lose a shutout.
here’s one for the stat geeks: you gotta score a run to win: therefore, we’re not losing…
Doesn’t matter how fast you throw it. I’m Surprised Hill was sitting on a fastball on a 1-2 count when he was just froze by a curve.
Blech. I don’t like a 3-0 deficit against Halladay.
The velocity doesn’t seem to be helping out.
I thought Gil’s post-surgery velocity topped out at 93. He wasn’t throwing this fast last year.
Both pitches hit for RBI’s have been in the center of the zone. Meche’s velocity and movement have been good – location has been bad. The Jays are hitting all his mistakes, which means his margin for error this game is pretty small.
He’s been hitting 94 all year. With the margin of error on radar guns (especially televised radar guns), 2 MPH isn’t significant. If he maintains 95-96 the rest of the year, on a variety of guns at different stadiums, or starts popping 97 and 98 occassionally, then I’ll get excited.
“I thought Gil’s post-surgery velocity topped out at 93.”
He’s had a few select game where he’s topped out at 98.
Things worth waiting for:
-FO possibly bringing in the fences
-Carl Everett’s imminent departure
-Doyle?
-Streeeetching out at least one: (Lowe, Soriano, ?Fruto)
-Dumping more salary this off-season
-A fighting chance at Matsuzaka
hmm. dunno what particular kind of stitch that Deanna has toted along to the game tonight, but if she’s taken up knitting, maybe she could use the needles to goose a few select backsides while she’s there…
and I think I may have mentioned before how tired I am of Mr Reed Johnson.
It’s nice to see guys bunt who actually know how to do it. Not nice to see them do it against the M’s, however.
you know, the way this game is looking, and with the prospect tomorrow of Burnett vs Moyer looking to find why his HRs are up the last two outings … can I change my poll vote from “guardedly optimistic” to maybe “resigned”?
This is the sort of game I fear we’ll get if we sign Meche to a nice, fat contract in the off-season.
I feel an inning ending double play coming up.
It would be really nice to come back and win this thing, for the rest of AL West lost/is losing. 2 games back would sure be nice.
Halladay backed by this offense is a tough matchup for any club. I wouldn’t lose any sleep over it.
Meche is certainly exhibiting the one thing that has always made him look bad – lack of location. I think the Hallady/opposing lineup challenge got to him a bit – another knock against his TOR potential.
Bad Meche.
How much longer are they going to leave Meche out there against Halladay? He’s sitting at 100 pitches (and I just see that it’s 6-0). Why didn’t Grover pull him sooner?
#79– but the Mariners never take advantage of AL West losses. I think they believe it would be both ungentlemanly and unfair.
Command comes and goes for every pitcher. When Meche doesn’t have it, he sucks, because his stuff isn’t good enough to carry him without it. For most of his career, he hasn’t had it. For the past two months, he has.
The fickleness of command for every pitcher not named Maddux, Moyer, or Radke is why I’m very weary of keeping Meche beyond ‘06. I’d bet that this year is his high water mark.
weary or wary? both would apply, of course.
That was a nice inset camera angle with the foot on the base. FOX does a lot of gimmicky stuff that I don’t like, but that’s something that I wouldn’t mind them keeping.
Uh, what?
What’s the “on field delay”?
So was Kenji yelling at him in English, or Japanese?
Is anyone else glad a pitch wasn’t thrown when the ump turned away to toss Hargrove?
Thin skin on Timmy tonight, huh?
Grover got jacked there. I think McLelland is “Likes to Fight Guy”
This umpire is quite poor. He doesn’t seem to like calling fastballs strikes unless they are right down the middle.
Could any tell us the source of the argument that got Hargrove tossed?
Hargrove thrown out after an intentional walk? Can some help a Gameday-watcher out?
Now instead of Grover on his case for every borderline pitch, he gets the whole crowd. Nice choice.
Apparently Hargrove yelled something from the dugout that got him ejected, so he came out to get his money’s worth. Then Kenji joined in. Presumably this was about the strikezone. Hargrove is now out of the game.
Man, when it goes to shit. It goes to shit in a quick hurry.
not sure that’s available. I’m watching Sportsnet (Jays) feed and they didn’t really know. All of a sudden Mclelland tossed the guy.
Could any tell us the source of the argument that got Hargrove tossed?
Apparently, Hargrove was complaining about the strike zone from the dugout. He was thrown out without every stepping on the field, though.
Grover contested a close pitch and got tossed. Johjima was doing a little jawing with the ump aswell.
Why did we walk their bloomquist?
apparently Mr Hargrove has been expressing his feelings from the bench about Mr McClellan’s strike zone all game long, and when he asked if a certain pitch was outside, Mr. McClennan tossed him. So he came out to discuss it. It then appeared that Mr. Johjima perhaps agreed with his manager, and may have made a comment or two. He definitely looked displeased.
Jake Woods should wear a maids outfit.
it wasn’t an IBB, Woods just sucks
Here’s something good to think about!
8 of the 12 games that have ended were won by the team with the lower winning percentage!
Actually, I guess that doesn’t really do anything to help us. Hargrove gone, now that does help.
Heh, nothing like getting it in English and most likely Japanese. heh.
Niehaus – in 1995, after 99 games, the M’s were 11 1/2 games back. This year after 99 games, we’re 3 games back.
I don’t think that means we’re better than we were in 1995, Niehaus, I think that means the division is considerably worse. Who was that comment for?
Maids should wear Woods outfits
yes, you actually got a brief glimpse of the Johjima that we heard played in Japan….
Has anybody else ever thought the words “reed Johnson is scaring me” before?
me either. But i’m doing it now.
Anyone think that after a drubbing like this one that is currently underway that Bavasi may act irrationally and pull the trigger on a trade for a hitter? Just sayin… It IS that time of the year and all.
It’s a shame when Babasi acting rationally isn’t that great a possibility.
You rushed a throw with EVERETT running? C’mon.
Something weird must be happening. Gameday’s taking it’s time.
no, nothing weird at all. There was a throwing error.
Can someone translate for the Gameday impaired?
Did the wild throw hit the Gameday operator?
Now it shows.
everett hit into what should have been an out and the ball was thrown way wide. He’s on first now.
thanks to kenji now he’s on second
Apparently Kenji is the only Halladay-proof hitter on this team..
Kenji owns Halladay.
Sort of.
Thanks to YuBet, now he’s home!
jebus yuni. Greedy much?
Way to run yourself out of the inning, Betty. Still, the guy is kind of getting to be a clutch hitter lately, isn’t he?
It’s ok guys- we don’t have to worry about 2 runs in, no outs, and a runner on second.
interesting follow-up using the Fox Tracer showing a ball called a strike for Halliday, and the same pitch location (preceeding the Hargrove eruption) being called a ball for Woods
is there any way Yuni can hit ahead of everett? When is Carl gonna start batting 8th?
thanks yuni, you could have been home now.
#129 – When Bavasi learns that Everett is no good and ships him to the Royals where he MAY just be good enough to bat 8th (and by Royals I mean Omaha haha)
129- Jones is batting .250. Any chance he could move ahead of everett? When could Carl start batting 9th?
Ichiro!
Betancourt is really getting to know Eduard Perez.
Beltre!
Dinosaurs!
atta boy Woodsy.
Man, Glaus, Catalanotto, and Johnson are just killing the M’s. Can you imagine if their good hitters (Wells and Rios) were in the lineup?
I hate these Ricoh commercials.
138: Yeah, and the Quest ‘I’m so excited I just gotta boogie’ ads are close behind.
140 – I work for Qwest, and _I_ don’t know why we’re already pushing football themed commercials.
Who do you think you are, Troy, Adrian Beltre?
I’m so angry at C-Rex – and perhaps more so at Hargrove!!
Understatement of the year:
Rance Mulliniks – yes THE Rance Mulliniks – “[Carl Everett] has just been unable to find a good groove and stay there”
how about a groove at all. Does Everett live on the smoothest place possible?
Get a couple there in the 6th maybe there’s some hope but stranding two….well, not so much.
You know, argh, comment #138 doesn’t have anything to do with commercials. It just makes an observation concerning the Blue Jays hitters.
Ok, I hope that wasn’t annoying. I’m just keeping myself entertained, for the game isn’t quite doing it.
Pervert cameraman has no qualms about lingering on Katie, Mariners seductress ballgirl.
147 – rotflmao
Why doesn’t somebody start a Fire Carl Everett chant?
Time for Beltre to step up and show some spunk.
ask and ye shall receive
There ya go, Impike.
Dave or DMZ or JMB, has USS Mariner ever done a post on swinging at the first pitch? I was wondering about it yesterday when Betancourt was in trouble for it, and I found an article I found interesting about it today on The Baseball Analysts.
I was wondering if you guys had any opinion on it. Just purely individual and situational?
Everett’s seen 10 pitches in 4 ABs.
Wasn’t he lecturing Betancourt in the dugout a couple days ago about taking pitches?
Oh boy.
as an intermediary for Hargrove, as he was for Everett tonight.
sigh.
Did Ibanez just get tackled by the wall in left field? It sure looked that way.
I can handle Mateo being our crappy, garbage-time pitcher, but having Fruto is one too many.
59 – Awolfgang
Turning off the game now?
I still blame Podsednik for that loss, and not guarding the line against the XBH, the triple
Now it’s time for our thunderous comeback.
B.J. Ryan? We complain about managers not bringing in closers in non-save situations, but this is stretching it a little.
B.J. Ryan? We complain about managers not bringing in closers in non-save situations, but this is stretching it a little.
Ryan hasn’t pitched since the 20th. Gibbons likely just wants to get Ryan out there to “keep him sharp.”
A little clutch hitting would have gone a long ways tonight. If it was 8-5, we wouldn’t have seen Fruto go out there.
…Oh, who are we kidding?
Sorry I had that wrong. I think it was Sprague who didn’t guard the line
Crap. That wasn’t nearly as much fun as the 3rd Boston game.
#160 Yes still watching, though in CST.
Re: The Strike Zone and Hargrove’s Getting Ejected
HP umpire Tim McClelland has a reputation as being the gold standard behind the plate. He’s won multiple player polls for best ball/strike umpire in the game.
169 – I was only half watching and I thought it was weird when I came back and heard Hargrove had been ejected and looked at who the umpire was.
That said, earlier in the game Gil got a couple calls he souldn’t have… notably a strike three about collarbone high.
Maybe he just had an off night, happens.
Ok, let me get this straight: John MacDonald (the Jays SS, not Canada’s first prime minister) is the #9 hitter on this team. His career line is .239 / .279 / .309 with all of FOUR HR’s (since 1999!) before this year. And he now has TWO HR’s for the entire year, and both of them are off M’s pitchers? His first ever Grand Slam, in a pitcher’s park, from a guy with .309 slugging? He’s a right-handed hitter!
Whisky Tango Foxtrot?
I just got back from Safeco. Man, what a depressing game.
What was depressing wasn’t that Meche was back to normal, or that Halladay made everyone but Ichiro and Johjima look retarded, or that we got blown out, although those things sure didn’t help. The main depressing thing was the sheer amount of Blue Jay fans at the stadium.
The Mariner fans had to be out numbered. In the early innings the Jays were getting more applause than the M’s. Given they were doing more things to inspire applause, but still.
In the later innings, after the patented Seattle exodus, the Jays fans had us seriously outnumbered. It’s so depressing to go to a game and have the opposing team get all the cheers. I can’t imagine how that would affect the ballplayers.
Some other things I noticed were:
- Gil Meche looking super pissed of constantly
- When Hargrove argued with the ump he really looked like he was protecting Johjima
- Johjima looking SUPER pissed after the Mariners left the field in the eighth
- Jones looking hopelessly lost on breaking balls and very depressed after striking out
- Carl looking like a AA hitter, if that, and not looking like he particularly cared what happened in his at-bats
- And, of course, Ichiro ruling. Oh I love him.
Joser – While I can’t dismiss the possibility that the M’s pitchers have served MacDonald a couple of prime meatballs, the Jays have been really pleased with the work of hitting coach Mickey Brantley this season.
The thing I like most about Brantley, however, is that he refuses to take credit for Reed Johnson. Johnson, hitting a pretty .360/.439/.535 line this year, moved to Las Vegas over the off-season and started working out with the Giambi brothers. Brantley credits the Giambis’ tutelage.
I was at the Rainiers game today and seeing all the AAA guys in action makes Carl’s presence even more mind-boggling to me. I bet any one of those kids could come up, take some solid cuts and bat at least .200. It’s just unbelievable that C-Rex is still being tolerated when he would be outperformed by probably 80% of the guys in our AAA club. And probably about half of the AA hitters for that matter. Sigh.
#174. you were at the tacoma game yet didn’t mention what surely must be mentioned here on this site, this cult of doyle.
game on the line. tied, bottom of ninth inning. clement singles to center, rob johnson lays down a sweet bunt to move him to 2nd. garciaparra walks. runners at 1st and 2nd, 1 out. announcement on the pa, and doyle comes in to pinch hit. first pitch, a strike, but the catcher missed it and runners advance to 2nd and 3rd. second pitch, ball. third pitch, beautiful game tying rbi single over the shortstop’s head. we won the game on the very next batter, oswaldo navarro, with a fluky thing they called a hit, back to the pitcher, but enough to score the winning run.
so sweet to see our man doyle all happy and doing all that teammate post-victory hugging.
(and by the way, a very impressive dan wilson sliding into the dugout kind of attempt on a foul ball made by our own jeff clement, who came slamming, sliding, facemask off into the fence about 5 feet away from me. he didn’t get it, but it was one helluva attempt.
FWIW, there have always been a lot of Jays fans at the Mariner games….
Sometimes I’ve got to shake my head at Hargrove’s decisions. This was probably missed because of Hargrove’s ejection after the next pitcher, but can anyone give a rational explanation on Hargrove’s decision to intentionally walk Aaron Hill in the top of the 5th?
At this point in the game, the score is 6-0 with runners on second and third. Woods just came into the game and got Molina (who kills left-handers to a tune of .323/.356/.505 this year) to fly out to Ichiro for the 2nd out of the inning. If the score were close I would have brought in a right hander to face Molina, Hill, McDonald, all right handed hitters. Meche definitely had to come out since he had lost his control. However, the score is already 6-0 against one of the best pitchers in the league. So Hargrove went with the decision to bring in his mop-up guy Woods. I’m fine with that, the game has basically been decided, so this now becomes time to work on player development.
The next batter is Aaron Hill who is hitting an impressive .340/.398/.406 against left handers this year, about the same as his rookie year last year – and only .287/.339/.396 against right handers this year. So basically you’ve got a high OBP guy without much power. If Hill walks, you’re in the same boat as an IBB. If he singles, it’s likely to only score one, even with two outs, since Hinske is at second base and he doesn’t run particularly well anymore. If Hill gets an extra base hit, well then it’s 8-0 against Halladay, which isn’t that much different than 6-0.
Granted, the following batter is John McDonald who is hitting .244/.308/.356 against left handers and significantly worse against righthanders. So I can sort of understand IBBing Hill if the score were close. But it’s not. You’ve already made the decision to bring in your mop-up guy Woods, who has walked 25 batters in 39 2/3rds innings at this point in the season. It seems like you would want to work with Woods to try and get him to succeed in this situation so that he might have more confidence for situations in the future when the game is actually on the line. So to me it doesn’t make sense to load the bases with your high-free pass rookie pitcher even to face the weakest hitter in the line up. The game’s already out of hand, you might as well let Woods rear back with first base open and face Hill directly. There just isn’t really any point in giving out intentional walks when you’ve basically already lost the game. It certainly doesn’t help in the development of young players with control issues.
ESPN Analyst, former Mets GM and complete moron Steve Phillips during the Tigers-Indians game this morning:
“The Reds got Eddie Guardado from the Mariners, which I think was a STEAL.”
The moral of the story: don’t listen to anything Steve Phillips says.
just came across Bavasi in mid-interview on mlb radio, on the GM’s corner with Fred Claire (FWIW, they usually have a link to the interviews later for re-listening) Briefly paraphrasing:
they are not willing to move one of their best prospects, so really more in the market for a 2nd-tier guy; he pointed out that they really need to improve on the left-handed side of the DH platoon
If offered prospects for one of their veteran guys? Taking into account both the team (structure & morale) & the fan expectations, they’d prob. only move one of them if it was part of a series of other deals that would make end up making the club better
They would like a 6th starter, but it’s not a high priority– as it stands now the 6th starter would be Jake Woods or Cruceta
Adam Jones? “one of the most interesting kids I’ve ever been around”; his first big league spring training camp was the same year as Bill’s — thinks he’s really inquisitive, see’s what every ones does, see’s everything, and does it all with his mouth shut. A perfect storm for his debut in Toronto, with two balls directly over his head, but he is a fast listener, and a good athlete
Discussed their scouting/signing international players — relying on Bob Engle & Bob Fontaine, two guys he’d long looked at as scouts who looked for the same kind of players he would look for– their instincts for ‘baseball players’ over ‘big athletes’. South African Anthony Phillips? Told he is a tools guy, great instincts; Bill has not seen him, going on faith with Engle
Okay – after two innings in Tampa Bay the Angels lead 12-5. After two innings.
And Colon left the game with an elbow injury.
KJR IS REPORTING EVERETT IS GONE. GONE!!!
they are not willing to move one of their best prospects, so really more in the market for a 2nd-tier guy; he pointed out that they really need to improve on the left-handed side of the DH platoon
So I take it that means that they are hanging on to everett up to the point at which they execute a trade? I assume that everett’s roster spot will either get taken by a traded-for player or by a call-up if they are unable complete a deal, is that correct?
Nope, everyone’s favorite Aussie is taking his place on the roster.
KJR is saying that Everett has been DFA’d. Snelling is up!
Sry. Lost my mind with excitement. Doyle is up.
KJR is saying that Everett has been DFA’d. Snelling is up!
reasonable or no to assume that there won’t be a walker/delucci trade then? i would think they wouldn’t want to use up an option if they are going to turn around and fill the spot with a trade.
HOLY SHIT! YES!
So that’s why all the church bells around downtown are ringing.
The M’s already used the option on Snelling this year, so they can send him up and down as many times as they want.
Who’s buying beer!!!???!!!
That’s the best frigging news I’ve heard the last 3 years as a M’s fan. It’s right up there with Ichiro’s 262 hit season.
Aaaaahhhh, sorry #174, I forgot about the Doyle fans (that is, everyone) here. Beautiful pinch hit single, yeah. I was actually hoping he’d be playing DH or something but I guess they were resting him for his promotion. 1 for 1 with a RBI ain’t bad.