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		<title>By: patl</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2006/08/06/it-was-fun/comment-page-5/#comment-132828</link>
		<dc:creator>patl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 17:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ndevale - do you live in McCall too??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ndevale &#8211; do you live in McCall too??</p>
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		<title>By: ndevale</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2006/08/06/it-was-fun/comment-page-5/#comment-132805</link>
		<dc:creator>ndevale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ooops.  hare-brained.  and the threads dead anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ooops.  hare-brained.  and the threads dead anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: ndevale</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2006/08/06/it-was-fun/comment-page-5/#comment-132793</link>
		<dc:creator>ndevale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 12:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since long, early-morning busrides in the rural 4th world are conducive to hair-brained schemes, the following strategy for the final two months of the Mariners’ season occurred to me:
It is less likely that Hargrove or any other ‘major-league´manager would implement the following than the Mariners making up 7 games in the standings but…
Roster moves now:  Demote Woods and call up Flaherty.  Demote Green, call-up Beck, and let Beck start instead of Piñeiro.  If possible, trade Sexson now.
Roster moves Sept. 1:  With utter disregard for the standings and playoffs of minor-league affiliates, call up all pitchers capable of eating innings in the big leagues, and someone who can play short, someone who can play center, and anyone with extra-base power and some plate discipline.
In-game Stragegy:  Deconstruct the idea of the ´starting pitcher´.  For Washburn, Meche, and Beck, let them face the opposing team’s lineup exactly twice.
Sometime in the 4th or 5th inning, check the score.  If the team is winning or losing by 3 or more runs, let Mateo or Piñeiro pitch.  Otherwise, rotate Flaherty, Lowe, Sherril, Soriano, and Putz.  Reduce WFB’s PA to zero, but let him run for the catcher and the first basemen in the 8th or 9th whenever he represents the tying run.  Pinch hit in these situations for Betancourt and the center fielder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since long, early-morning busrides in the rural 4th world are conducive to hair-brained schemes, the following strategy for the final two months of the Mariners’ season occurred to me:<br />
It is less likely that Hargrove or any other ‘major-league´manager would implement the following than the Mariners making up 7 games in the standings but…<br />
Roster moves now:  Demote Woods and call up Flaherty.  Demote Green, call-up Beck, and let Beck start instead of Piñeiro.  If possible, trade Sexson now.<br />
Roster moves Sept. 1:  With utter disregard for the standings and playoffs of minor-league affiliates, call up all pitchers capable of eating innings in the big leagues, and someone who can play short, someone who can play center, and anyone with extra-base power and some plate discipline.<br />
In-game Stragegy:  Deconstruct the idea of the ´starting pitcher´.  For Washburn, Meche, and Beck, let them face the opposing team’s lineup exactly twice.<br />
Sometime in the 4th or 5th inning, check the score.  If the team is winning or losing by 3 or more runs, let Mateo or Piñeiro pitch.  Otherwise, rotate Flaherty, Lowe, Sherril, Soriano, and Putz.  Reduce WFB’s PA to zero, but let him run for the catcher and the first basemen in the 8th or 9th whenever he represents the tying run.  Pinch hit in these situations for Betancourt and the center fielder.</p>
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		<title>By: gwangung</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2006/08/06/it-was-fun/comment-page-5/#comment-132566</link>
		<dc:creator>gwangung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 02:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; So, in 205, DMZ says management’s response if Grover defied Bavasi’s advice not to start Mateo in high leverage situations would be: ‘ “You want to fire him over what?” and give him a hard time…’

By which we can only conclude management ain’t been watching Mateo pitch. &lt;/i&gt;

Yes? And the sky&#039;s blue. The point....?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> So, in 205, DMZ says management’s response if Grover defied Bavasi’s advice not to start Mateo in high leverage situations would be: ‘ “You want to fire him over what?” and give him a hard time…’</p>
<p>By which we can only conclude management ain’t been watching Mateo pitch. </i></p>
<p>Yes? And the sky&#8217;s blue. The point&#8230;.?</p>
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		<title>By: argh</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2006/08/06/it-was-fun/comment-page-5/#comment-132554</link>
		<dc:creator>argh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 02:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, in 205, DMZ says management&#039;s response if Grover defied Bavasi&#039;s advice  not to start Mateo in high leverage situations would be: &#039; “You want to fire him over what?” and give him a hard time…&#039;

By which we can only conclude management ain&#039;t been watching Mateo pitch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, in 205, DMZ says management&#8217;s response if Grover defied Bavasi&#8217;s advice  not to start Mateo in high leverage situations would be: &#8216; “You want to fire him over what?” and give him a hard time…&#8217;</p>
<p>By which we can only conclude management ain&#8217;t been watching Mateo pitch.</p>
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		<title>By: terry</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2006/08/06/it-was-fun/comment-page-5/#comment-132544</link>
		<dc:creator>terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 01:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#86 and #87:

That sentiment has got to be my biggest pet peeve on baseball message boards/blogs......

translation: *you don&#039;t agree with me so I will completely discount your argument (I really haven&#039;t bothered to educate myself enough to understand it anyway or really to formulate an argument of mine own for that matter) by labeling it as negativity...in fact, I will try to nullify your voice with my drinking buddies by completely mischaracterizing everything youve posted by finding one negative post and continually repeating it....over and over and over.  In fact, any use of stats is a sure sign of negativity and automatically invalidates your opinion. Finally actually having reasons for your opinion automatically invalidates it unless its my opinion (and since its my opinion and I trust myself, there is no need to fact check)*

pet peeve #2: you said I was wrong....therefore you&#039;ve labled me as a liar and I&#039;m offended by your obvious challenge to my integrity-my board of directors might read this blog too and will question my decisions by stating, &quot;how can we trust you since you wrote that on the blog and some guy clearly challenged your integrity&quot;. Then of course the whole thread becomes a one-sided whine about the slings and arrows of know-it-alls challenging others integrity and somehow by extension their right to post comments...


wow that was cathargic....  now if only the M&#039;s can win tonight so I can take off my new jersey (4 days and counting)....people will think I&#039;m weird if I wear it to the office again tomorrow....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#86 and #87:</p>
<p>That sentiment has got to be my biggest pet peeve on baseball message boards/blogs&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>translation: *you don&#8217;t agree with me so I will completely discount your argument (I really haven&#8217;t bothered to educate myself enough to understand it anyway or really to formulate an argument of mine own for that matter) by labeling it as negativity&#8230;in fact, I will try to nullify your voice with my drinking buddies by completely mischaracterizing everything youve posted by finding one negative post and continually repeating it&#8230;.over and over and over.  In fact, any use of stats is a sure sign of negativity and automatically invalidates your opinion. Finally actually having reasons for your opinion automatically invalidates it unless its my opinion (and since its my opinion and I trust myself, there is no need to fact check)*</p>
<p>pet peeve #2: you said I was wrong&#8230;.therefore you&#8217;ve labled me as a liar and I&#8217;m offended by your obvious challenge to my integrity-my board of directors might read this blog too and will question my decisions by stating, &#8220;how can we trust you since you wrote that on the blog and some guy clearly challenged your integrity&#8221;. Then of course the whole thread becomes a one-sided whine about the slings and arrows of know-it-alls challenging others integrity and somehow by extension their right to post comments&#8230;</p>
<p>wow that was cathargic&#8230;.  now if only the M&#8217;s can win tonight so I can take off my new jersey (4 days and counting)&#8230;.people will think I&#8217;m weird if I wear it to the office again tomorrow&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: John in L.A.</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2006/08/06/it-was-fun/comment-page-5/#comment-132543</link>
		<dc:creator>John in L.A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 01:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eleven, you keep repeating the same tough guy manager mantra, it&#039;s been pointed out why you can&#039;t assume things are the same in MLB as they are in your tight ship of a business. 

Unless you have specific baseball management insight, you&#039;re not making your point. 

The manager is supposed to be the expert in in-game decisions, having a GM dictate strategy to him would probably A, not go over well and B, not really be a good idea. Assuming you have hired reasonably well.

It&#039;s like a drug company with the CEO telling the scientists how to do their math.

Which brings me back to my point... if you have a dumb scientist, fire him, don&#039;t try mix the chemicals yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eleven, you keep repeating the same tough guy manager mantra, it&#8217;s been pointed out why you can&#8217;t assume things are the same in MLB as they are in your tight ship of a business. </p>
<p>Unless you have specific baseball management insight, you&#8217;re not making your point. </p>
<p>The manager is supposed to be the expert in in-game decisions, having a GM dictate strategy to him would probably A, not go over well and B, not really be a good idea. Assuming you have hired reasonably well.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like a drug company with the CEO telling the scientists how to do their math.</p>
<p>Which brings me back to my point&#8230; if you have a dumb scientist, fire him, don&#8217;t try mix the chemicals yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: The Unknown Comic</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2006/08/06/it-was-fun/comment-page-5/#comment-132542</link>
		<dc:creator>The Unknown Comic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 01:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some independent film student in Seatlle should make a baseball parody movie about Mike Hargrove. That reminds me I am looking forward to seeing Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some independent film student in Seatlle should make a baseball parody movie about Mike Hargrove. That reminds me I am looking forward to seeing Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby.</p>
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		<title>By: terry</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2006/08/06/it-was-fun/comment-page-5/#comment-132541</link>
		<dc:creator>terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 01:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#79: do you even know who&#039;ll be a free agent after this year?

There will be plenty of arms to chose from this off season.  Its more a question of whether its a smart way to spend your money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#79: do you even know who&#8217;ll be a free agent after this year?</p>
<p>There will be plenty of arms to chose from this off season.  Its more a question of whether its a smart way to spend your money.</p>
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		<title>By: Eleven11</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eleven11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 01:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It may be that way but why? Who works for whom? I, GM trust you, Field Manager to run the team on the field. I am, however, the boss. My job is accountable as is yours because I hired you. Therefore, if a GM abidicates his authority to the FM, I have no sympathy. A good GM does not micro manange but at the same time, does not allow the ship to sink in the name of &quot;that&#039;s the way it&#039;s always been&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may be that way but why? Who works for whom? I, GM trust you, Field Manager to run the team on the field. I am, however, the boss. My job is accountable as is yours because I hired you. Therefore, if a GM abidicates his authority to the FM, I have no sympathy. A good GM does not micro manange but at the same time, does not allow the ship to sink in the name of &#8220;that&#8217;s the way it&#8217;s always been&#8221;</p>
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