Game 116, Mariners at Rangers
DMZ · August 12, 2006 at 4:12 pm · Filed Under Game Threads
5:05. LHP Moyer vs RHP Volquez. See Dave’s comment for the scoop.
DH-L Ichiro!
2B-R Lopez
3B-R Beltre
LF-L Ibanez
1B-R Sexson
C-R Johjima
SS-R Betancourt
RF-R Willy “The Ignitor” Bloomquist
CF-R Jones
So the bench is DH/1B-L Broussard, DH/1B-R Perez, C-R Rivera, 1B/3B/LF/PH-L Dobbs
Here’s a question for you, good readers. Imagine you’re the manager of the M’s, and Ichiro’s been dragging lately. You’d like to keep him in the lineup, but not have him run around in the heat, so you’ve decided to DH him for a day. What’s the best lineup you can field given the existing Mariner roster as it exists today (no calling up Tacoma players)?
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Come on A-B
That was nice of Beltre to pick the ball up. [/sarcasm]
Beltre’d!
did AB pull something there?
Nice hit–is it just me or did he hobble in to 2nd?
Beltre made sure Ichie was the only one to be 0-5…great job giving Raul a shot to tie it with a mere single!!
I really really like Beltre.
Why am I still watching these guys?
Oh, yeah, that’s right.
BELTRE!
looks like Rick Griffin had the same thought
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Even when he’s hot, does he EVER?
Granted he’s just following the entire offensive philosophy of this team this year…HACK AWAY
Swing Away Ibanez
Only PR available–E. Perez?
all right Richie.
Good eye, Raul.
I just knew Raul wouldn’t fall for that low crapola
Now Richie on the other hand…
UGH!!!
Down the friggin’ middle!
would you really send up Richie in this situation?
Perez can play 3rd, so that’s fine.
I have faith here.
Crap.
Almost. He had the right idea, wrong location.
One more game until the sweep.
I guess yet ANOTHER lesson why its usually best NOT to wait until the 8th to wake up offensively after getting schooled by ANOTHER unproven starting pitcher.
And no TV tomorrow.
I can’t decide what was more frustrating– the loaded bases that stayed loaded, the one-run-down 9th with the instant outs from the first 2 batters… so much to choose from.
I think post #170 summed it up best
It’s rare to see this many adult American males so completely and publically humiliated without ball gags and rubber suits being involved.
#170 was a fine succinct substitute for the Expletively Explicated Lauren Summation (TM)
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The M’s didn’t even play well enough to be worthy of her descriptive words
so, whats been happening with those other boys in blue?
omigod. I just had a horrifying vision of Rizzs being allowed to to Seahawks play-by-play … with all those folksy stories and familial relationships and heartening happenings yet to be told. Over and over. And over.
If it’s truly going to be as we’ve been told to expect – that a one-year deal is available for Moyer should he choose it – I hope in the name of everything good and right that he realizes he’s simply no longer capable, and he has enough honor to bow out before making a complete disgrace of himself and the team.
He’s been a respectable pitcher for a number of years. I believe he has kept himself in good shape as he’s become older. On the other hand, Safeco has really hidden his flaws and amplified his strengths. He’s never been quite as good as his overall stats would make him seem to be. Even in Safeco he no longer has space to hide his weaknesses as well, and on the road in anything resembling a neutral or good RH hitter’s park, forget about it.
I don’t understand the urge to kick Moyer out the door. Of course he’s not the pitcher he once was. But he’s also far from a “complete disgrace.” He’s still capable of being a decent innnings-eater, and how many other options do the Mariners have?
He ranked second among the starters on the team in pitcher’s VORP this year (21.6). That’s ahead of Felix. Moyer may not be great, but he’s also not one of the team’s problems.
Moyer still has value going into next year, no doubt about it. Only if he never steps foot on the rubber outside of SAFECO again. I think it could work, 5-man rotation on home stands and 4-man rotations on road trips or at the very least some juggling of the rotation. Of course it would take a team a lot more creative than the M’s to try it but that’s the only way I would bring him back him.
are we basing this call to dump Moyer on an outing at Arlington? He has a career ERA of 5.55 there. I don’t know what that would be when park-adjusted, but it’s a rare pitcher who does well if not throwing groundballs when that team is hitting in that park.
Whether Moyer should be on the 2007 roster has to depend a lot on the alteratives. Surely Bavasi will go after at least one FA starter, but there are a couple guys named Gil and Joel that could stay or go. For 2007, do you want either of those two back? Who’s your first choice from among the three of them? Second?
As Roger Clemens does his on-again off-again retirement waltz, I’ve thought about the idea of a starting pitcher cutting a deal to spend more time with family. But Moyer has been the comsumate team player, so, the debate about his ability aside, I don’t look for him to try for some sort of home-only contract. Jaime recently was given the opprtunity to fly back a day early from a road trip because he was the first starter at home, but he stayed with the team and got back to Seattle in the wee hours before pitching that night.
If Moyer comes back next year, than the fans, front office, and manager (whoever it may be) needs to realize that Jamie is no longer a #1 or #2 starter. Now he’s best suited for the fourth or fifth slot in the rotation.
If GilgaMeche can rebound from his performance the other night and pitch well the rest of the year than the M’s should *consider* bringing him back on a 2 yr deal (3rd year option) and slot him in as the #3 starter.
El Rey and the Washboard will be back. That leaves an internal option or FA signing for the other spot. (Schmidt scares me, but he’s likely to be the best available.) If Moyer retires that’s 2 spots. If Gil goes elsewhere that’s 3 spots.
Under NO, repeat NO, circumstances should Jor-El be wearing the compass next season. He’s done. D-U-N. Done.