Game 117, Mariners at Rangers
DMZ · August 13, 2006 at 4:00 pm · Filed Under Game Threads
5:05, radio only, because why would anyone want to watch an evening game featuring Felix Hernandez against Kevin Millwood? Errrghhhh.
RF-L Ichiro
SS-R Betancourt
3B-R Beltre
LF-L Ibanez
1B-R Sexson
DH-L Broussard
C-R Johjima
2B-R Willie “The Ignitor” Bloomquist
CF-R Jones
Texas responds with
CF-B Mathews
SS-R Young
LF-R Lee
1B-B Teixeira
3B-L Blalock
RF-R DeRosa
DH-L Stairs
2B-R Kinsler
C-R Barajas
So let’s play the “swap ’em or not” game: which of the Texas guys would you trade for their Mariner equivalent, contract included? And it’s not Kinsler-Bloomquist, consider Kinsler-Lopez for the sake of having to think at all.
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I’ve been questioning the appropriateness of rushing Felix to the majors all year. Also, he looks out of shape to me.
He was fabulous when he was brought up last year, so it wasn’t unreasonable to figure he was ready. But he’s been mediocre or bad most of this year (or so it seems).
I’ve been questioning the appropriateness of rushing Felix to the majors all year.
What the hell else was he going to do in Tacoma? He was destroying AAA ball. What would another 30 starts against Hiram Bocachica do for him?
Also, he looks out of shape to me.
That is true. And he’s still learning how to pitch, rather than throw. But the hype machine was out of control, honestly. He’s damn good, and a winter of weights and instruction will make him that much better.
Don’t make me call Dave in here to remind you all how un-bad Felix has actually been.
Way to go, Kenji.
It’s true, Felix really hasn’t been all that bad. I just looked up his season stats (before tonight’s game actually fewer hits than innings). But the lousy games like this stick in the memory.
I was pretty set to believe he was going to dominate this year.
So… each time the M’s get within a game of .500 they roll over, play dead and let their opponents tickle their tummies…
What’s up with that?
Is there a way to rent a time machine and trade tonight’s triple by Dobbs (while were down by six) for a single last night, with the tying run on second?
Dobbs got a TRIPLE?
Coupled with Bloomquist’s double the other night, the proof is incontrovertible: Arlington *is* a launching pad.
#56, can we coin a new phrase: “Seattle being Seattle?”
It’s what you do with mice when you know you’re getting dish of IAMS at 5 p.m.
Ball game. Sweep.
I just want the broadcasters to stop talking like we’re still in it. Baseball Prospectus had their playoff probability at
Silver lining alert: this series ought to be just another nail in the coffin of Mike Hargrove’s career as Mariner manager.
Dan Rohn still in the wings? Hope so!
There were a lot of positives in this series.
63. Yeah, if your name is Gary Matthews, Jr.
62 — Exactly. 7 straight losses to division rivals should be enough to get him axed.
56. So true. We need Carl Everett power. wooo
Hargrove and Bavasi need to go, the benefit of mlb.com is that you get to hear the other announcers make fun of Hargrove’s decision to play for a bunt when Mike Young is at bat with zero outs and runners at 1st and 2nd
67. I think Bavasi’s done a pretty good job of rebuilding a club and a farm system that was destroyed by first Woodward and then Stand Pat.
But we agree on Hargrove.
I agree, but he hired Hargrove and continues to stand by the GROVER, needs to go.
Personally, I think there should be a rule that you can’t pinch hit with your #1,3,4,5, and 6 hitters.
“why would anyone want to watch an evening game featuring Felix Hernandez against Kevin Millwood”
well, as someone coming at it from the other end, and just getting the “highlights” after the fact, I guess I vote for not watching this one….
oh, and we are writing off Felix? puhlease.
How’s this for a little misery pileon?
Ichiro: .324/.374/.412
Cirillo: .323/.379/.418
USS Mariner Anagram:
Rise, Mr. Anus.
#40:
Actually, it’s:
a) Jim Thomsen on endless flight layover;
b) David J. Corcoran on seemingly endless hangover.
Sigh.
On a brighter note, my favorite personal anagram:
Amoral He-Nun.
I hate times like these, Just lost the last 7 games against division rivals and got 7 more coming up.
Well, this seems a little appropriate.
The Mariners chances of getting in the playoffs are basically ending as the Seahawks season gets set to begin and as I get ready to go to college Thursday morning.
I guess if there is one thing we’ve learned from seeing this team play this season, and one thing we will learn during the last 45 games of this season is that this team is getting better and making progress.
But if this team wants to be perenial pennant contenders again in the next couple of years, there are going to be some tough decisions the Mariners will have to make as an organization.
It will start this offseason as the Mariners will likely look for successors for Grover and Bill Bavasi, and don’t forget how 2 Mariners pitchers (Moyer and Meche) face free agency at the end of the season and how Pineiro is eligible for arbitration, but of course anyone with common sense knows his days as a Mariner are numbered.
So the Mariners are basically looking at needing 3 starting pitchers, a manager, and a general manager for next season.
Seems like a lot to do, but if the Mariners are committed to winning like they say they are and if they don’t want to lose any more business to the Seahawks, then obviously these changes will have to be made swiftly and quickly.
I guess that’s what rebuilding (or being a “team in transition”) is about sometimes.
Making tough choices to get better.
The Mariners will more than likely stagger to 75 wins this year and draw about 2.4 million fans.
They will now have 2 choices to make.
They can accept the mediocre or they can pony up with the payroll a little bit to get the best starting pitching possible and immediately after the season start to find a new manager and GM.
Taking risks is something pretty foreign to the Mariners.
Just take a look at the winter of ’04 for example, the M’s could’ve signed Miguel Tejada and/or Pudge Rodriguez, and yet, they went with Rich Aurilia and Scott Speizio.
Ouch.
The M’s are defenitely at a crossroads right now as this team has gone from a 100 loss team in 2004 with aging players to almost a .500 team with young talent in 2006.
Not bad, but not good enough.
And with Ichiro among other players facing free agency next year and people that were fans of the Mariners in, oh, 2001, now turning over their allegiance to the Seahawks, the time to act is now.
Well, what are you waiting for Howard Lincoln? Why are you still reading this? Time is wasting.
Go fix that starting rotation, go get a new manager (Lou Pinella, please!), go get a new general manager, go restore the faith of Mariner Nation everywhere before we become a second tier franchise, go out and try and WIN.
Just thinking ahead…..
Saw this on benmaller.com today.
“Toronto initially proclaimed Eric Hinske as the foundation for rebuilding, but he since has been bounced from third to first to the outfield to a backup role and has a $5.626 million guarantee for next year, which makes him a definite albatross. The Jays would pick up part of the salary to get rid of him.”
Hmmmmm… we sure could use a guy like that huh?
#73…Cirillo is only a part-time player so that’s not a good sample.
I think it’s time to put most of the team on waivers and trade some of the veterans away..adios Sexson, Ibanez, Bloomquist, Moyer, Joel, etc. See what kind of mid-tier talent we can get in return..Bloomquist might fetch a can of sunflower seeds though if even. At this point I think it’s time to call up the kids and let them play out the rest of the year, bring up Bazardo, Snelling, etc.
9 games back is an impossible albatross to climb back from..1995 was 11 years ago..GET OVER IT!! It will never happen again!
This is only the beginning of a 20 GAME LOSING STREAK!!
I will go on record to predict that the Mariners will finish 6-38 the rest of the year. (The six wins coming against TB and KC.)
oh, Preston Wilson could be available but not a big deal now since there’s nothing to play for but meaningless games.
Oh the Royals swept the Red Sox so they will most likely steamroll the Mariners….ok so make it 2-42, the rest of the year…Yay!!!
1. Lou is not coming back. Just stop it. And it is Piniella.
2. The various players have likely all been on waivers since the process began, just like every other team in baseball.
#83 – Agree.
Besides, who is going to want Joel for the stretch run, unless its KC trying to solidify their chances for the #1 draft pick.
I think we are stuck with the team “as is” until September callups.
Once the season ends there will (should) be major changes. I think more so than even the last couple of off seasons I am curious to see where the front office will go. It’s obvious we need starting pitching, but will they be creative and maybe trade a few pieces for some or to move extra salary? Will they move the fences? Who will be the new manager?
Now that we are pretty much D.O.A. I am looking forward to this offseason of mystery and all the blogging about the M’s moves bemoaning or praising each one.
Oh, and what’s up with that Mariners Revolution blog? Did Bill Bavasi run over that guys dog or something. That guy is seriously angry.
78 – Lou would be a TERRIBLE fit for this team. It’s like all the homers who wanted Griffey back have jumped on the Lou wagon now. 1995 is OVER people.
80 – Hinske’s been having a decent year, actually, and there’s only one year left on his contract. And he’s a lefty.
We’ve done worse.
#85– not to mention Lou wants nothing to do with a rebuilding team 🙂