Game 145, Blue Jays at Mariners
Dave · September 13, 2006 at 1:07 pm · Filed Under Mariners
Burnett vs Baek, 1:35 pm.
It’s power vs finesse in several ways. Baek takes his junk-junkier-junkiest repertoire up against an offense that can whack the ball all over the park, while the M’s take their singlefest offense up against A.J. Burnett’s high velocity offerings. I’d bet on power in both cases.
Line-Up:
1. Ichiro, CF
2. Bad Beltre, 3B (some of his swings lately… dear god)
3. Betancourt, SS
4. Ibanez, LF
5. Sexson, 1B
6. Broussard, DH
7. Snelling, RF
8. Rivera, C
9. Bloomquist, 2B
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Dave that should read “9. Princess Willie, 3B.
my bad. it’s a 1:30 game today. I guess I was just in a hurry to get to this exciting match-up.
Dave N on the pregame show was predicting a low-scoring game.
Which member(s) of our pitching staff could out-hit our 8 and 9 hitters for today’s game?
Because this is going to be a slooooow thread:
Sigh.
#5, One random poll that popped up on ESPN.com about 2 years ago asked “Should the Mariners trade Moyer for Ryan Howard?” This was the year Thome was still healthy the first half and Howard was tearing up AAA. I remeber at the time thinking “who is Ryan Howard and why should the M’s give up their best pitcher for him.”
How times have changed!?!?!?!?
possibly because every one knew that the Phillies didn’t really want to move him?
Ryan Howard has had a great year. However, he’s still a flawed player who turns 27 this winter. Did you know he’s all of seven months younger than Adrian Beltre?
Keep in mind, Richard Hidalgo had a monster year early in his career before pitchers learned to exploit his flaws.
As for Beltre’s swings, he’s not just hacking at low-and-away pitches. Last night he swung at one that must have been at or above his shoulders. I wanted to see the replay to see whether my eyes were fooling me, but they spared him the embarrassment.
Dave what is Lind hitting this series?
#3 Maybe due to Ichiro’s two rbis in his last 207 at bats?
did Niehaus say low scoring and slow?
Lind so far through his AB today: 8AB, 4H, 1R, 1RB1, 1BB, 2K
13. Thanks.
4: Felix, Meche, probably if we still had Moyer, Moyer.
I love this job. I get US$10.14 an hour to refresh USS Mariner.
Okay, I confess that I’ve not been following the threads as religiously as I should lately, so please forgive me if this is a pre-opened can of worms, but what the heck is up with Ichiro? I didn’t see the second strikeout, but if it was anything like the first one it makes me wonder if he’s been taking BP with Beltre or something.
Ichiro sucks. We should have traded him for Ryan Howard, Griffey, and Piniella. That’s what’s up with Ichiro.
Freddy perfect through 6.2, Sheets perfect through 6
Gee Corcoran, I get paid $16.82 an hour to refresh USS Mariner
Howard might be a flawed hitter, but he’d still have been worth Moyer, assuming that deal ever exsisted. He’ll hit 60 homers and come close to posting an 1.100 OPS, but the 160 strikeouts are a cause for concern going forward.
Oh, and Baek has come rocketing back to earth.
I jinxed Sheets, he gave up a hit, but Freddy just retired Vlad, and is now perfect through 7
Of course, when the game’s going like this…back to Addictinggames.com.
Oh…see I can’t online game or use myspace/facebook. So I get USSM!
But I can turn my attention to the White Sox game.
More spam to fill this empty thread: Hilarious tidbit from the Milwaukee Pitt gameday:
Pitch 1: Pickoff attempt 1b
Pitch 2: Pickoff attempt 1b
Pitch 3: Pickoff attempt 1b
Pitch 4 Pickoff 1b
Ben Sheets picks off Chris Duffy at 1b
Which is more interesting? Cesar Jimenez pitching or the White Sox game?
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Ahh gee, that’s a toughy.
/sarcasm
Is that a trick question?
The real question now:
Hawk or Hudler?
Maybe if I mention it enough it will actually clear any previous jinxes: Fredy perfect through 7.1
*Freddy*
7.2, 93 pitches
Aw, nuts.
#$*%
the crowd is mocking the pitching.
Adam Kennedy single…he was 4 outs away
There’s that patented “soft landing” the Mariners have for young pitchers.
ok, freddy’s lost the perfect game and the no-no, time to tune back into the Mariner’s! oh, wait…
10-0?
Why isn’t Holmgren benching Hasselbeck for Wallace?
And why are they playing the Argonauts?
(What a tired joke this is.)
Hasn’t Greg Zaun done this to us before?
Sheets was perfect through 6 today, too.
screw that
Someone could accomplish something…Burnett could strike out 20…
Time to let the kids play. Get Navarro and Jones in there right now. Hell, even get Morse some PT at SS, and let Perez play third.
I want the next inning to be
C Rivera
1B Bloomquist
2B Navarro
SS Morse
3B Perez
LF Dobbs
CF Jones
RF Bohn
I am aware that
1B Perez
2B Bloomquist
SS Navarro
3B Morse
makes more sense.
I think the SA Missions could beat that lineup
yay! Chick makes the debut!
Here’s a topic: which one of these Mariner post-All Star break OPS’s is Willie’s?
.528
.613
.604
.535
.648
Oh, and everyone who thought Rene Rivera was ready for the bigs based on 2005’s Small Sample Size Theatre can STFU now: his lifetime MLB OPS is now a WFB-esque .597, thanks to his impersonation of Miguel Olivo circa 2005 this year (.437 OPS and 2/25 BB/K ratio).
So Chick’s stuff is totally hittable.
“Pitcher Change: Travis Chick replaces Cesar Jimenez.”
If somebody would have told me my gameday would have had that line at the beginning of the year, I might have cried.
Man, even a guy like John Flaherty or Paul Bako would be a serious upgrade over Rene Rivera: Major League Catcher. That’s sad.
BAKO OR BUST IN 2007!
10-0 ? – In the old days, a ten-run lead was cause for Dave and Ron to bburst into song–”The Wabash Cannonball,” I believe.
We could use a little comic relief just now–and I don’t mean Rene Rivera..
Wow, Bloomquist represents the go-ahead run. That’s a tough defecit.
So did anybody see the blonde behind home plate on TV last night…I can’t believe no one mentioned her in yesterday’s game thread. Wow.
Low scoring, indeed.
Caple at ESPN just posted a story about “hometown Bums.” It focuses on the Mariners. No, Really!
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=caple/060913
Isn’t it about time to start having NL translations to compare players between the NL & AL? We have minor league translations, japanese league translations and college translations, why not Nl to AL?
The reason I ask is that I’m tired of seeing articles about player XYZ that team ABC and look how well he’s doing this year, boy wasn’t that a stupid move? Where in 99.9% of the cases player XYZ went into the NL from the AL. The talent level between the 2 leagues is so disparate right now that the NL is as close to AAAA as any league ever was.
Yes, I know the pendulum will swing back but if I’m in the AL and have any sort of ability to switch leagues I got into the NL, sign a 1 year deal, pad the crap out of my stats and then sign a killer 5 year deal somewhere else.
Freddy Sanchez contending for a batting title? c’mon.
Wabash cannonball was Dave and Ken Levine
Saw her? I was at the game in the same row as her. I’m not sure if they were real but they were spectacular. My wife wouldn’t let me walk back into the diamond club to go get some food when she left her seat.
Who cares if they were real?
She was mentioned if you read carefully, the on deck circle references…
60, 61 a couple people mentioned her last night, i think she was on a live shot at the end of the game as she applauded her, err i mean the mariners win
re: 61
Just a debate between my wife, her friend & my friend. Something to occupy our time during a generally sloppy game.
Can we get a traffic report from McCall?
jones
morse
navarro
bohn
dobbs
broussard
snelling
rivera
bloomquist
chick
Oh my God
Also:
A. Jones CF
M. Morse 3B
O. Navarro SS
T.J. Bohn LF
G. Dobbs 1B
B. Broussard DH
C. Snelling RF
R. Rivera C
W. Bloomquist 2B
T. Chick, P
It’s like a Rainiers game with very expensive beer…
Wow, Corcoran Jr. almost got his wish on the lineup changes. Can you channel any other of Hargrove’s thoughts? If you can keep them to yourself.
does this mean the team is leaving early for KC
Ruthlessly pricking our gonfalon bubble
Navarro to Bloomquist to Dobbs..
Wow. I didn’t realize this game was early. That’s a big discrepancy in scores. Yikes.
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Jeez, its not the Union Association.
Though the way Rich Aurilia has played it does make you wonder.
Yay! Travis “Token” Chick!
I feel bad for anyone who paid money for this game…
Although not too bad if they don’t need to work
All those Japanese fans that don’t get to see Ichi or Jo-Jo now. :/
at least we have r. hernandez and j. buck to look forward to on sunday afternoon.
DOYLE!!
(can I still do this when were losing 10-0?)
Travis “Token” Chick
Yeah, I bet he’s never gotten any shit for having that name.
69 – I think they already DID leave early. As in yesterday.
(can I still do this when were losing 10-0?)
Why not? Doyle’s one of the few reasons to continue watching this team.
Token Chick is a highly respectable name, so I have no idea what you mean.
So Ryan Feierabend (I look forward to future spelling enforcement of that name) has a surname that means “evening celebration.” It’s colloquial German for “end of the workday.” I learned this after wondering what the Feierabend bar in South Lake Union was named for.
Feierabend! Pineiro! Yuniesky! Johjima!
so, um … who’s Snelling?
Congratulations to Navarro.
Does Chris Berman call him “Chris Snelling Salts”? If he hasn’t, he will.
I even heard one of the M’s TV announcers (Hendu?) reference the fact that “his middle name is Doyle” over the weekend
Traffic report on McCall…
Well…I don’t know. But it probably compares to traffic in Lynden. I drove up there the other day, and got stuck at this 4 way stop on a North South road from Bellingham and it took forever. So it’s probably like that.
With that name, Feierabend really should be a closer.
Yep.
And the people say “für mich ist Feierabend” when he comes in the game…
How is his name pronounced?
fear ben
Well, in German, it’s pronounced “Fire Ah-bend”
And, I’m sure I’ll misspell it “Feuerabend” — which means absolutely nothing. “Feuer” means “Fire” and “Feier” means “Celebration”. I suppose you could have a FeuerFeier, just as long as you don’t cause a Forest Fire…
It’s one of those things I trip up on, like I used to trip up with “bekommen”…
#85
I know that intersection. Stay away from there.
#91
Bekommen killed me. Not as much as Adjective endings though.
Does anyone know how many times have the Mariners been shut out this year? How does it compare to last year’s totals.
Is it possible the Mariners could put on a year end sprint and finish yet again with 90 losses? I did not think they could reach that milestone, but a loss like today’s sure makes it seem reachable.
92: Hannegan and Pole?
It’s incredibly time consuming and reminded me of traffic in McCall, Idaho. I meant to go down Guide Meridian up to Lynden, but I got off the freeway to explore Bellingham and got lost and just took a random North road.
#75– is that the main card?
#94– Dave N said it was the 15th…
18 DJC, I was actually hoping for a bit of enlightened analysis, though the sarcasm was indeed appreciated.
Is it possible the Mariners could put on a year end sprint and finish yet again with 90 losses? I did not think they could reach that milestone, but a loss like today’s sure makes it seem reachable.
They’re 69-76 now, so they need to finish up 3-14 to do that dirty deed.
By the way:
Twins lose Liriano in finale vs. A’s
Lefty exits with elbow pain after two-plus scoreless innings
First game back. Ouch.
there have been discussions about Liriano’s mechanics, haven’t there?
Glasgow just announced that Hassey & Rohn are no longer members of the coaching staff– Hassey wasn’t going to be offered a job next year, he chose to leave after talking to Bavasi & Hargrove. Rohn was informed his contract wasn’t renewed, & that he was relieved of his duties immediately. No news on who will fill the bench coach role; & no decision if Rohns job will even exist after this year.
BREAKING NEWS
Two M’s coaches have just left the team, effective immediately.
Bench coach Ron Hassey and Admin Coach Dan Rohn.
They told Hassey after today’s game that he wouldn’t be renewed for 2007 and he said he would be better if he quit now. Rohn was told he wouldn’t be renewed for 2007 and relieved of his duties immediately.
I’m not sure if I see this as good news if it means that Mike Hargrove is staying for ‘07. Maybe we all need to root for the club to lose the remaining games to ensure Grover’s firing?
Are you serious msb? Hassey, who cares.. But Rohn was “relieved of his duties immediately”? Weird!
I wonder if too many of the younger players liked and trusted Rohn more than Grover, so they got rid of him?
WTF?!?!?
screw this fucking team. I hate the Mariners. I bet Hargrove is back now. Goddamnit.
Bavasi was having a press conference as Glasgow read the release– KOMO is expecting some audio imminently…
So we have to go 3-14 to finish with 90 losses.
I don’t think they will be that bad, but I don’t think it is impossible either. 11 game road trip coming up (we know how well the last one went). 4 in KC, 3 in Texas and 3 in Chicago. KC at home is going to be tougher than we think-plus there is really no motavation for that series, Texas always kills us in Texas and Chicago is in the middle of the playoff race.
With the Mariners you never know, I can see 1-10 and I can see 7-4.
Also with two rebuilding teams going head-to-head tomorrow (M’s vs KC) you would expect to see a pitching matchup with some energy, maybe a matchup we can look forward to in the future. NOPE! Jarrod Washburn vs. Odalis Perez.
Of course Grover is going to be back. Bavasi played the “it’s a young team and Mike has been patient” card a week ago. Aside from sites like this, where do you see the usual rising heat about a Manager getting fired around town? No where. It’s not happening. Oh, just to be totally crappy, watch for a Meche sighting the first week of April 2007.
And now I go forth to puke.
Bavasi wasn’t going to throw anyone under the bus, so not much info.
Hassey was told a couple days ago, and Mike was happy having Hassey finish off the year, he chose to leave– why the decision not to renew? “he’s a smart guy– but the role of being Mike’s bench coach might not be the right role for him now”. [Hassey is Mike's guy, so it is an interesting move]
they just talked to Rohn about being let go today– why leaving now? per Bavasi, “Mike was comfortable in making the move now”. [well, ok, then.]
press release is up
Highlights from Bill Bavasi’s media session:
Bavasi: In Ron’s regard, Mike talked to him yesterday and we were comfortable having him stay the rest of the year. It was his choice to leave now. With Dan, Mike was comfortable making the move today.”
With respect to Hassey, Bavasi said: “The role of being Mike’s bench coach might not be the best spot for him and that’s the way Mike and I felt. This guy’s very, very good, but he wasn’t right for the role.”
When one media member asked if this were a move to eliminate the speculation about Grover being fired (by eliminating the top in-house candidate for the job)Bavasi played dumb and said “I’m not sure I’m getting the question”.
When asked when Hassey and Rohn were notified, Bavasi said that Hassey was told yesterday and Rohn “10 minutes ago”.
Really, this is an embarassment to the organization. How many teams do you see can coaches (other than hitting or pitching coaches) in mid-season, let alone in September? And the same sort of thing happened last year when the third base coach Jeff Newman left the team in August, with Garcia moving from 1B to 3B and Goff taking over at first base. Newman reportedly needed knee surgery, but that wouldn’t exactly prevent him from doing his job as 3B coach…
it wasn’t Newman’s knee– “Third base coach Jeff Newman needs surgery to repair a partially torn left Achilles tendon and will miss the rest of the season. Newman has been slowed by pain in his left ankle over the past month, and tests this week showed a 60 percent tear in the Achilles tendon. Team medical director Dr. Larry Pedegana recommended surgery to prevent a complete rupture.”
111 — thanks for the correction.
Ugh. I, too, fear that this means Hargrove will be back.
of course, with a man of Newman’s heft, a knee would have been bad enough
Andrew Miller is in the game for Detroit on ESPN…
If this means Grover stays and I am Jose Lopez, I am sweating bullets. Poor second half, the one and only Willie B playing way too much…
115- I understand what you are saying, but I don’t expect Willie to start over Lopez.
Lopez is our 2nd baseman and he will be in 2007 no matter who the manager is.
Hmmm. Let’s check in to see scores, maybe watch the M’s play tonight. . . . whoops. 10-0?! Maybe the Mariners can switch to the NL.
Teeny consolation: the Angels lost 9-0 to the White Sox. Could thing we don’t have to play in Chicago again this season.
Oh. Wait.
It’s bad enough they lose so much, but these truly humiliating shutouts happened waaaaay too often this year. Mortifying.
So Ryan Feierabend (I look forward to future spelling enforcement of that name) has a surname that means “evening celebration.” It’s colloquial German for “end of the workday.”
And Ryan is from the Irish for “king.”
So, his name can be paraphrased as “King Quittin’ Time” or “King Happy Hour.”
I missed this debacle, thank god. My girlie was there on some comp tickets from work. I got a text from her just before 3pm, saying merely: “Are you watching this shit?”
Hey look, DW speaks Irish. Actually the Irish Gaelic for king is Ri (with a faidhe over the “i”); what’s the precise etymology for Ryan?
It was only one at-bat, but I wasn’t terribly thrilled that Jimenez gave up that homerun to Gregg Zaun. Zaun hadn’t hit ANY from the right side all season (granted – Bengie got most of those opportunities), and Jays analyst Rance Mullincks actually said during the game, “I honestly didn’t think Gregg was capable of hitting a homerun to the opposite field from the right side.”