Moyer re-signs with Philadelphia
Dave · October 23, 2006 at 9:22 am · Filed Under Mariners
Well, the talk of Jamie Moyer returning to Seattle in the offseason can officially end; he signed a two year extension with the Phillies today, with the total value being $10.5 million.
Leave it to Pat Gillick to sign a guy to a two year deal that will expire after his age fourty-five season. Jamie was still an effective enough pitcher last year, but man, 2 years, $10 million for an 82 MPH fastball in that park?
Good luck, Jamie. And Philly fans, you have my sympathies. At least you know that Gillick won’t stick around very long once the team starts showing it’s not that good.
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He is still available for his 46 year-old season, right?
I feel both glad, and sad. Glad, because as a baseball move its better for us. Sad, because of the emotional tie I have: great memories of the best, slowest pitcher I’ll probably ever see.
hey! we can ask Steve how it affects the Ms!
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I love this quote from Gillick
So you’re paying a 43-year-old pitcher in part (or maybe in whole) because of what he did in September?!? Talk about small sample size.
Two years? Best of luck to Jamie, but seriously, Moyer’s value at this point was tied almost entirely to his availability on a year-to-year contract. I doubt this is what the Phillies’ fans had in mind for spending the Abreu money.
Not sure if this is a promising sign for the offseason free agent signings…
I love Jamie but this is an awful move. You want to resign him, fine, but $5 million a year!?!? And you dumped Abreu to get rid of salary?? Yeah … This organization is really sad, it’s amazing they stayed in it as long as they did.
Good for Jamie, not good for Philly. The mind boggles.
I wish Moyer the best. Would like to have seen him retire with the M’s, but…he got a *great* deal from the Phillies. 10 more million to do the thing he loves.
Oh, geez. I fully expect Schmidt and Zito to get 6 year deals for $Texas now.
Read about Moyer’s deal and my thoughts immediately jumped to this quote in today’s paper (crossing my fingers that the link works, given my HTML abilities):
“Everybody’s pretty happy with the industry. In baseball, everybody’s making out pretty well,” Cardinals reliever Jason Isringhausen said.
I’m really happy for Jamie, and in a way, I think that this is Great for the M’s from the standpoint that they will have to shift their attention elsewhere for pitching, rather than using their resources to bringing back a “fan favorite,” in the hopes that this will put bodies in seats every 5th day. I like Jamie and have tremendous respect for him. I do think though that it is going to be very cathartic for this team as they get farther and farther away from the 1995 and 2001 seasons.
I’d be shocked if Jamie lasted another full year in that park. It’s a miracle he didn’t get killed there.
Remember, Gillick signed Ryan Franklin to a two-year deal … and waived him halfway through the first year. It’s very unlikely Jamie will be throwing 200 innings a year for the next two years for Philadelphia.
Then again, he is only 43.
All that being said, if Jamie gets released after starting out 2-8 with a 7.15 ERA, that may not mean he is no less suited to pitching in Safeco Field, and it would probably be well worth the Mariners’ while to find out if he’s still who he’s been for the last 13 years … or if, indeed, he’s lost that fine edge that’s enabled him to succeed in circumstances suited to his skills set.
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Jim, Franklin’s contract was only one year, but yeah, the ballpark is going to hurt Moyer. That is unless the Phillies embrace “Jamie Moyer, Road Starter.”
All that being said, if Jamie gets released after starting out 2-8 with a 7.15 ERA, that may not mean he is no less suited to pitching in Safeco Field, and it would probably be well worth the Mariners’ while to find out if he’s still who he’s been for the last 13 years … or if, indeed, he’s lost that fine edge that’s enabled him to succeed in circumstances suited to his skills set.
But then, if he’s released we only have to pay league minimum — the Phils pick up the rest.
So, it might be worth it if whatever belly itcher the M’s are running out in the back of the rotation are even more terrible than 2-8, 7.15. And, you know, it’s going to be that way.
I’ve always considered Jamie Moyer as one of the most remarkable pitchers ever. He didn’t get good until later in his career. But he didn’t do it by “re-inventing himself” (in other words, becoming a knuckleballer when he couldn’t pitch for real anymore). He did it by getting smarter, learning how to pitch and how to pitch to specific hitters. He showed young pitchers that a Bugs Bunny changeup often can be as effective as a Randy Johnson fastball, albeit not as dramatic. I kinda hope we bring him back to coach King Felix. Yes, a good defense and Safeco Field helped as the years wore on, since he learned to pitch to Safeco. But he got better as he got older. Eventually though, that horse has gotta go to the glue factory. He might have a passable season for second division club but two years for a pennant contender? Hmmm….
I think Jamie has a desire of pitching until he’s fifty. And, if his legs hold up, I won’t be the guy to say he can’t do it. With his style of pitching, it won’t be about the arm. I’m sure it’s got five more years in it. He might be finishing up in TB, but if Julio Franco can still do it, why not Jamie?
Jamie Moyer’s relationship with umpires, and how he uses them to his best advantage, is discussed in the excellent book “The Cheater’s Guide to Baseball” which is available for pre-order from Amazon right now.
I’m not making this up, folks.
do i really have to wait until april to get it? I need instant gratification!
Maybe in 10 or 15 years, when Moyer retires from baseball, we can invite him back to Safeco for his induction into the Mariner HOF.
#20– always been one of my favorite things about him….
RE: #20…and the price has gone down from 13.95 to $11.16. My order is in!
The book should be out in February. For a sufficently high bribe, I’ll get you a personalized advance copy right now. You can email me for details.
what, you are selling the proof copies?
I’m unemployed, and USSM doesn’t pay the bills. I’d contemplate selling organs at this point.
Just don’t get rid of anything you have only one of, DMZ… 🙂
DMZ, I can probably work up another Seattle Weekly piece for you as soon as you can get a galley proof or something my way.
And yes, Ryan Franklin had a one-year deal. I mistook it for two because he got two years’ worth of money relative to his value.
Moyer is just another example of a pitcher that “remade himself” in the AAAA world of the NL.
I’m glad to see that. I like Moyer and dislike Philly. I’m also glad that we’re not getting him back. Expecting him to be anything more than replacement level is a dream.
Evidently the Phillies are allowing Moyer to leave a day early before an off day at the end of a road trip so he can spend time with his family.
Also, Moyer was looking to go somewhere where he had a chance to win.
(source, Philidephia sportwriter 950 interview this morning)
Hi all, I’d like to read what the Phillie blogs are saying about this, but I have done a site search and can’t find the Recommended Blog article posted here awhile back. A little help, please? Thanks —
You could, you know, scroll to the bottom and hit the “previous” link if your search didn’t work.
Did that — but I made the mistake of assuming it was filed under general baseball. That article is filed under Mariners if anyone else is interested.
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