World Series Game 4
DMZ · October 25, 2006 at 4:35 pm · Filed Under Game Threads, General baseball
Another World Series played in poor conditions, it looks like. So what do we get?
CF Granderson
LF Monroe
SS Guillen
RF Ordonez
1B Casey
C Rodriguez
2B Polanco
3B Inge
vs
SS Eckstein
RF Duncan
1B Pujols
CF Edmonds
3B Rolen
LF Wilson
C Molina (Y)
2B Miles
Pasco native Jeremy Bonderman v Suppan… well, one of those two is good. I can’t believe the Tigers are down a game going into this one and Bonderman hasn’t pitched yet. It’s crazy.
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isn’t his legal name Pasco-Native Jeremy Bonderman?
My fault. Allow me.
BP sez…
Suppan’s VORP for 2006 regular season: 26.1 (69th overall among qualifying pitchers – and between his 50th and 60th percentile PECOTA projections)
Bonderman: 39.2 (34th)
King Felix: 22.6 (89th)
Just sayin’.
VORP is a good measure to use when you’re looking at what’s happened when a pitcher’s on the mound, but it’s not a particularly good way to look at what their abilities are.
obviously, all world series should be held at Safeco.
I can’t help but notice that there is a terrible FOX sitcom on my screen right now.
I can’t help but notice that there is a terrible FOX sitcom on my screen right now.
It sure would be nice if they’d at least scroll something about the delay at the bottom of the screen. Good thing we all have the inter dot net to keep us informed.
I can’t help but notice that there is a terrible FOX sitcom on my screen right now.
This is why I own a couple of World Series DVD box sets: 2004 and 1986. I saw recently that 1975 is available. Still waiting for the box set that has the M’s in the series…
No kidding. Thank God for the intra-web and ESPNEWS. Serves me right for tuning in at 5.03 PST.
I mean, Jesus, they could at least show The Simpsons, Fmaily Guy, House, or an encore presentation of Man vs. Beast.
4: What’s your preferred method for judging Suppan’s abilities?
6: Here in Canada, we’re getting MLB International and a retrospective of the ‘05 White Sox. Ugh. I’m watching hockey instead.
Aha! Someone noticed my plea and put a message at the bottom of the screen on FOX.
Why own the 2004 World Series? That was incredibly boring. The LCS’s were great, but the series was boring.
#13: The 2004 set contains all 7 of the ALCS games.
In the process of (pre-)ordering Derek’s book, I couldn’t help but notice that one of the “Customers who viewed this also viewed…” books is “Using Econometrics: A Practical Guide.” It’ll be interesting to see how those “also viewed” books change as the book gets closer to publication.
ah.
#13: There’s one great play in game #3 where David Ortiz threw out a baserunner who broke halfway home from third and then had a brain fart: it was Jeff Suppan.
1. How did Suppan get to third?
2. Way to make a play on the field, Ortiz.
I imagine that’s the last time in baseball history that David Ortiz throws out Jeff Suppan as he is heading home.
Anybody have an opinion on the new Dylan album?
And while trying to add to my order for the free shipping, I went looking through some other stuff that I’d put on my wishlist and noticed that Sam Walker’s Fantasyland is on sale for $2.99(!). In hardcover. That seems like it’s got to be wrong, but I guess I’ll find out.
I wouldn’t be surprised if this one is rained out. Earlier there was a POP of 90% and predictions of half an inch of rain.
Am I misremembering, or has this postseason featured more rain-outs and delays than usual (or at least in recent history)?
#18: CARDINALS 3RD: Suppan singled to third; Renteria doubled to
right [Suppan to third]; Walker hit into a double play (second
to first) [Suppan out at home (first to third)]; Suppan
started down the line and then stopped; 3B coach Oquendo yelled
to go and Suppan started again but then stopped and tried to get
back to 3B; Pujols grounded out (third to first); 0 R, 2 H,
0 E, 1 LOB. Red Sox 1, Cardinals 0.
Red Sox infielders were playing back, conceeding the run. After Suppan was thrown out, the Fox dugout camera cut to a shot of LaRussa, who pulled the brim of his hat down over his face in disgust.
You can’t script October.
Holy crap! Another episode?!? Good God No!
Joe Buck just told me that the rain has all but stopped. The NWS radar near St. Louis paints a pretty bleak picture for the rest of the evening, though.
Yeah! I just heard we’re getting a Ben Broussard concert — with a full band — here in November.
They should be forced to play episodes of all the Fox shows they hyped incessantly through the post-season that flopped hugely. So “Girls Club” and the show where HER FATHER IS THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY (Skin?)
25: When? Where? What time? How do I get tickets?
15. In the process of (pre-)ordering Derek’s book, I couldn’t help but notice that one of the “Customers who viewed this also viewed…” books is “Using Econometrics: A Practical Guide.” It’ll be interesting to see how those “also viewed” books change as the book gets closer to publication.
The author of “Using Econometrics: A Practical Guide” is a huge baseball fan. It wouldn’t be out of the question for him to be clicking on a baseball book such as DMZ’s.
On the other hand, there wouldn’t be any reason for him to click on “Using Econometrics,” given that he wrote it. So probably it was a reader, not an author, clicking.
Details to follow … just heard it from one of our features writers.
On the other hand, there wouldn’t be any reason for him to click on “Using Econometrics,” given that he wrote it. So probably it was a reader, not an author, clicking.
Oh, I have no doubt that it was a reader. From what I understand, sabermetrics and econometrics have pretty similar flavors, so it doesn’t surprise me that some USSM readers looking at pre-ordering the book would also be looking at econometrics books. I would expect that Derek’s book would attract at least as many non-stats readers as stats readers, so Econometrics probably won’t be on that list in a few months.
Okay, to rant about Leyland’s rotation one more time: if you agree with me (and you should) that Bonderman should go as many times as you can manage, you really want him pushed up front in the rotation because it means if there’s a rain delay – and given that they’re trying to play seven in Detroit/St. Louis in late October, it’s a good chance – you might get to run him out there three times. I’d have gone Bonderman/Rogers/Verlander/Robertson with the intention of skipping Robertson if I had a chance.
Sigh.
Also, I encourage everyone to pre-order my book. Because it rocks, and because I need the money.
But- but- this is crazy talk! Bonderman had the worst ERA of the four!!!
Derek, just because I can do this to you because you’ll allow me to do this to you, will you provide the pre-order link here so I can click and order?
I clicked the link in the Amazon ads on this page to get to Derek’s book. Perhaps they are dynamic and aren’t showing up on your page, Jim?
#20 – Nice catch. I was going to wait until spring and get Derek’s book along with The Hardball Times and BP annuals, but I jumped on that deal now. “Fantasyland,” Derek’s book and Steven Goldman’s “Forging Genius” (now in paperback apparently) for $25.68 (free shipping!). Awesomeness.
What I recommend everyone does (and I did), is get the Amazon.com credit card that gives you free $30 off your next purchase, and then buy 2 copies.
Aha, upon refresh, the ads to seem to be dynamic.
*And then cancel the credit card.
You can pre-order “The Cheater’s Guide to Baseball” by clicking the handy link I just now provided in this very comment.
Amazingly, they approved me for credit.
NOOOO!!! That’s the last straw. I’m risking missing the first inning+ just to avoid this ridiculously bad sitcom.
I can’t believe this show was greenlighted for 3 whole episodes. Screw you Fox!!!
Okay, I’ve ordered. Does that mean a kitten somewhere lives?
If its DMZ’s kitten…
Do you get pre-order money up front or something, Derek?
KUOW has an interesting piece currently on how this years negative ads are even more prevalent and appalling …
I don’t get anything but a vague sense of affirmation and an increased tolerance for the workload of USSM
ok, so just what is this sit-com? and what sort of company employs nothing but women with low-cut blouses?
Michael Rapaport had his time. But his time is over.
One of these kittens, no doubt…
Ken Rosenthal ponders Japanese pitchers coming over
and if you can select the book in the little Amazon box on the sidebar, I vote for a link to the swell YA book by Anne Ursu (aka Batgirl)
Besides baseball, I watch almost no television. I think I probably am not missing much, that sitcom is unfunny and vile.
51: I wonder when I can pre-order that book they talk about?
For whatever it’s worth to y’all, I actually enjoy “The War At Home.” As far as I’m concerned, it’s a decent hybrid of “Married With Children” and “Grounded For Life,” which is a lot more entertaining than the numerous reality shows and inane dramas that are currently on network television.
As it is, my favorite show that’s presently on network television is “The Office” (U.S.); it’s a intelligent comedy that relies on dry humor and relatively realistic storylines. I can’t hate on that.
Besides baseball, I watch almost no television. I think I probably am not missing much, that sitcom is unfunny and vile.
I guess that seems like watching a Joel Pineiro start and concluding that you’re not missing much by ignoring the Mariners. Sure, by avoiding the Mariners altogether you’ll miss the agony of the Meche/Pineiro starts, but you’ll also miss King Felix and other various good stuff. Whatever the name of this sitcom is, you can do better elsewhere on TV. (Granted, there’s not a ton of good stuff out there, but this is pretty bad show.)
I think Gresham’s law of bad money driving out good money is applicable to television. I just can’t bear to wade through all the crap to find the good, or even, ok show. So I don’t bother.
Are they actually going to have a game tonight?
I don’t know how they (the forecasters Joe Buck is referring to) are forecasting 9:15 CT as the start time for this game. Looking at the radar, I’d say that the front is stalling over St. Louis if anything and it kind of looks like it might get worse before it gets better.
I think Gresham’s law of bad money driving out good money is applicable to television. I just can’t bear to wade through all the crap to find the good, or even, ok show. So I don’t bother.
That’s fair enough, but if you know anyone whose opinion you trust who watches TV more than you, it’s not like you have wade through everything yourself.
Well, the apathetic disdain that most of y’all have for network television sitcoms absolutely shocks me. As it is, my negativistic attitude toward nearly anythin’ and everythin’ — which, without a doubt, encompasses numerous things (e.g., the Seattle Mariners) — is surprisingly surpassed by y’all in this case. In the end, though, y’all are entitled to have your own opinion regardin’ this issue—there’s no denyin’ it!
When I find a show someone recommends, inevitably, the show is moved to a new time and day, or cancelled. And I don’t have the energy to keep it all straight.
To be fair, I do watch baseball, the Sopranos and Bill Maher. I know when those shows are on.
I too almost never watch anything but baseball. So the cable will have its own off-season until April.
My special lady friend just got me Walker’s “Fantasyland” this last weekend.
DMZ, I was going to order your book when it was ready to ship. I know that when I do order it, I’ll order like 3 copies. But if you prefer people to preorder it, that’s can be done as well.
#55
Agreed. I also do enjoy The War at Home. Although, probably not 2 hours worth and certainly not as much as watching the Cardinals.
I don’t think DMZ has made it clear about whether he prefers that people pre-order his book.
When I find a show someone recommends, inevitably, the show is moved to a new time and day, or cancelled. And I don’t have the energy to keep it all straight.
Two words: Tivo.
Preordered.
If y’all didn’t watch “Project Runway” you missed out on the most hilarious bitchfest ever. “The Office” and “My Name is Earl” are both hysterically funny. “Arrested Development”, now cancelled, was the funniest show that’s ever been on television, even funnier than “Curb Your Enthusiasm”, which itself makes classics like “Seinfeld” and “Frazier” look sick in comparison. “The Daily Show” and “The Colbert Report” are together some of the best satire ever produced. Lots of great TV nowadays. This is a golden age, in fact.
Saying that there’s nothing good on TV is like saying baseball sucks, look how terrible that Willie Bloomquist is.
Preorder complete, along with another item to avoid shipping charge (as seems to be the theme). Can’t wait.
Game postponed. And Joe Buck kept insisting that the weather was going to be just fine…
But on the plus side we get an episode of the Simpson’s I’ve seen about a dozen times.
Has FOX announced the rain-out?
I don’t know about FOX, but someone announced it on ESPN, and that’s what espn.com is reporting. I don’t see how it makes any sense to start a game between two central timezone teams after 9:30 CT on a Wednesday. Rain happens. Eat the travel day, move on.
Hooray for rain!! I’ll be in St Louis on Friday night…
Those of you who are from Washington, is Rt. 12 from Morton to Yakima as pretty of a drive as it looks on paper?
The drive is great for about 2/3 of way then you get Orofino without water
Orofino without water. That sounds like my kind of drive! I’ll definitely take that drive next Monday.
and then plus, at the end you are in Yakima, the Palm Springs of Washington!
I grew up around the Yak area, it’s not bone dry like once you get further Southeast, although I would hope that you have something on your agenda after you get to Yakima (other than procuring some dirtweed or stealing a car – top 10 in the nation for car theft this year!)
-and by on your agenda, I meant, like checking it out, and then leaving to go elsewhere
78: The plan was to get out of class at 2:00, drive to Yakima the scenic way by 5:15, and and then eat dinner at Wendy’s downtown, and head back to TAcoma by 6:00.
(taking the interstate back)
There is a Wendy’s or two in Tacoma, you know… (Mmmm… 99 cent Bacon Cheeseburgers…)
I believe it. But you don’t get to drive by Mt. RAinier, Mt St. Helen’s, and ford Snoqualmie Pass just to eat there.
Sounds look a good enough time to me, I’d say go for it, it is a pretty drive.
I hope you have a bright fall day, then, so you can enjoy the drive, Corco.
Forecast is sunny.
And it will certainly be prettier than the last drive I took, going to Bellingham, and then up to Sumas via Lynden and Boundary Rd, and then driving all the way back to Bothell on Rt. 9 (which was terrible after about Arlington).
Hey, dan@jackson, that was a nice writeup y’all had in the Sunday paper. You’re doing a good thing down there.
In the process of (pre-)ordering Derek’s book, I couldn’t help but notice that one of the “Customers who viewed this also viewed…” books is “Using Econometrics: A Practical Guide.” It’ll be interesting to see how those “also viewed” books change as the book gets closer to publication.
Y’know, with a little coordinated browsing, we could probably make Derek’s Amazon page kind of, um, interesting [insert evil laugh here]. “Customers who viewed this also viewed…”
All the Harry Potter books? Dr. Suess? 1001 Names For Your Baby? Joe Morgan: A Life In Baseball.
Okay, that last one is kind of mean.
See what no game does to me?
89: Y’know, with a little coordinated browsing, we could probably make Derek’s Amazon page kind of, um, interesting [insert evil laugh here]. “Customers who viewed this also viewed…”
To get to the $25 free shipping I added a Doris Duke CD to my purchase.
huh. Kirby Arnold opines the Ms are not going after Matsuzaka.
Corco if you’re looking for a pretty day/drive head up Deception Pass State Park on Fidalgo/Whidbey Island and check out the view from the bridge. You can hit Mt Erie in Anacortes where you’re about 1100ft up and get a 360 view if you walk around to a couple spots. You can see Mt. Baker, the San Juan islands, and the Olympic Mts if you get a clear day. Anacortes doesn’t have a Wendy’s though. Only about 1 1/2 hours or so drive each way.
#87 …the last drive I took, going to Bellingham, then up to Sumas via Lynden and Boundary Rd, and then driving all the way back to Bothell on Rt. 9 (which was terrible after about Arlington).
What with Navy housing and people from King Co. moving up to Sno. Co. to escape the traffic and living congestion, it’s probably terrible north of Arlington, now, maybe all the way up to Mt. Vernon. I’m SOOOOOO glad I moved away from there 4 yrs. ago.
#92. Anacortes = “Annie’s Corset” according to my husband… Forget about Wendy’s if you take Jed’s suggested drive. Just stop at the tribal casino on Fidalgo near the bridge and get some cheap eats and gamble a little.