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	<title>Comments on: Rafael Soriano, Relief Pitcher</title>
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		<title>By: DMZ</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2006/10/27/rafael-soriano-relief-pitcher/comment-page-2/#comment-152379</link>
		<dc:creator>DMZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 19:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HE DOES NOT HAVE ONLY TWO PITCHES

Jeez. Read the thread.</description>
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<p>Jeez. Read the thread.</p>
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		<title>By: wabbles</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2006/10/27/rafael-soriano-relief-pitcher/comment-page-2/#comment-152373</link>
		<dc:creator>wabbles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 07:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;m torn. On the one hand this looks like another short-sighted dumb M&#039;s move. On the other hand, he does have only two pitches and I remember the last time he was in the rotation. I guess my greatest fear is that the M&#039;s are making the right move for the wrong reasons, which means they will use it as justification for making a lot more wrong moves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m torn. On the one hand this looks like another short-sighted dumb M&#8217;s move. On the other hand, he does have only two pitches and I remember the last time he was in the rotation. I guess my greatest fear is that the M&#8217;s are making the right move for the wrong reasons, which means they will use it as justification for making a lot more wrong moves.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2006/10/27/rafael-soriano-relief-pitcher/comment-page-2/#comment-152369</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 05:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we&#039;ll be saying goodbye to Soriano shortly anyways and trading him in a package for someone like Vernon Wells if I had to guess, and then he&#039;ll become a great closer or a pretty good #5 starter for Toronto.

I just wish we could&#039;ve at least TRIED him as a #5 starter before making the decision of not putting him in that spot in 2007.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we&#8217;ll be saying goodbye to Soriano shortly anyways and trading him in a package for someone like Vernon Wells if I had to guess, and then he&#8217;ll become a great closer or a pretty good #5 starter for Toronto.</p>
<p>I just wish we could&#8217;ve at least TRIED him as a #5 starter before making the decision of not putting him in that spot in 2007.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 01:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reluctant as I am to disagree with the estimable Dave, I think keeping him in relief does make sense.  He doesn&#039;t have good mechanics.  He bends his arm too much and puts too much strain on his elbow and shoulder.  He can go an inning every other day doing this, but I suspect being a starter would only put him on the injured list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reluctant as I am to disagree with the estimable Dave, I think keeping him in relief does make sense.  He doesn&#8217;t have good mechanics.  He bends his arm too much and puts too much strain on his elbow and shoulder.  He can go an inning every other day doing this, but I suspect being a starter would only put him on the injured list.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Thomsen</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2006/10/27/rafael-soriano-relief-pitcher/comment-page-2/#comment-152247</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Thomsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 01:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;Washburn’s likely to be better over those 33 starts.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Um ... why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite=""><p>Washburn’s likely to be better over those 33 starts.</p></blockquote>
<p>Um &#8230; why?</p>
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		<title>By: eponymous coward</title>
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		<dc:creator>eponymous coward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 00:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;At least Baek seemed to have some movement on his fastball..&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m sure it&#039;s going to move quite nicely when it leaves the park on a regular basis.

The dude&#039;s a Korean version of Ryan Franklin, without the rubber arm (go look at Franklin&#039;s stats in Tacoma if you don&#039;t believe me). I don&#039;t care if he&#039;s the 5th starter because he&#039;s cheap, you don&#039;t win pennants based on your 5th starter. and Jarrod Washburn&#039;s not worth a 8.5 million+ premium over him, but Washburn&#039;s likely to be better over those 33 starts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>At least Baek seemed to have some movement on his fastball..</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s going to move quite nicely when it leaves the park on a regular basis.</p>
<p>The dude&#8217;s a Korean version of Ryan Franklin, without the rubber arm (go look at Franklin&#8217;s stats in Tacoma if you don&#8217;t believe me). I don&#8217;t care if he&#8217;s the 5th starter because he&#8217;s cheap, you don&#8217;t win pennants based on your 5th starter. and Jarrod Washburn&#8217;s not worth a 8.5 million+ premium over him, but Washburn&#8217;s likely to be better over those 33 starts.</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
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		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 00:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#&lt;a href=&quot;http://members.aol.com/quentncree/lehrer/masochis.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;46&lt;/a&gt;--

Bash in my brain,
And make me scream with pain,
Then kick me once again,
And say we&#039;ll never part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="http://members.aol.com/quentncree/lehrer/masochis.htm" rel="nofollow">46</a>&#8211;</p>
<p>Bash in my brain,<br />
And make me scream with pain,<br />
Then kick me once again,<br />
And say we&#8217;ll never part.</p>
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		<title>By: LB</title>
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		<dc:creator>LB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 23:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[ot]</description>
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		<title>By: Thingray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thingray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 23:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least Baek seemed to have some movement on his fastball..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least Baek seemed to have some movement on his fastball..</p>
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		<title>By: eponymous coward</title>
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		<dc:creator>eponymous coward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 23:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll put it this way: I&#039;m not sure &quot;average&quot; is the right phrase to use when we&#039;re dicussing a distribution that doesn&#039;t resemble a bell curve, but a J.

Probably a better way to put it is if you put Cha Seung Baek out there for 33 starts and Jarrod Washburn for 33 starts, but everything else stays the same (team, park, league, etc.), what should be the approximate difference in runs allowed? That&#039;s what I guess you could call &quot;slightly&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll put it this way: I&#8217;m not sure &#8220;average&#8221; is the right phrase to use when we&#8217;re dicussing a distribution that doesn&#8217;t resemble a bell curve, but a J.</p>
<p>Probably a better way to put it is if you put Cha Seung Baek out there for 33 starts and Jarrod Washburn for 33 starts, but everything else stays the same (team, park, league, etc.), what should be the approximate difference in runs allowed? That&#8217;s what I guess you could call &#8220;slightly&#8221;.</p>
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