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	<title>Comments on: Don&#8217;t Call It A Comeback &#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2006/11/20/dont-call-it-a-comeback-2/comment-page-1/#comment-154096</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 19:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And there are a TON of Okinawans in Hawaii. When I was in Hawaii last year, I went to the Okinawan cultural center -- you could make a pretty solid argument that Hawaii is the center of the Okinawan diaspora, although South America is up there, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And there are a TON of Okinawans in Hawaii. When I was in Hawaii last year, I went to the Okinawan cultural center &#8212; you could make a pretty solid argument that Hawaii is the center of the Okinawan diaspora, although South America is up there, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2006/11/20/dont-call-it-a-comeback-2/comment-page-1/#comment-154095</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 19:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve actually done quite a bit of writing about this, and it&#039;s true: many Okinawans blanche at being called Japanese, although that&#039;s generational. 

I&#039;d say it&#039;s analagous to the U.S.-Hawaii relationship: ethnically, culturally and linguistically distinct, although politically part of the same nation due to a recent conquest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve actually done quite a bit of writing about this, and it&#8217;s true: many Okinawans blanche at being called Japanese, although that&#8217;s generational. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s analagous to the U.S.-Hawaii relationship: ethnically, culturally and linguistically distinct, although politically part of the same nation due to a recent conquest.</p>
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		<title>By: MKT</title>
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		<dc:creator>MKT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 05:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funniest Okinawan song I&#039;ve ever heard (okay, the only one); I heard this on the radio in Hawaii, probably the only place in the world where the humor would work.  I don&#039;t know who wrote or performed it:

Slow, lugubrious music plays the melody for probably the only Japanese song that non-Japanese recognize, &quot;Sakura&quot;, while the singer sings lyrics describing what a bunch of lame losers the Japanese are.  This goes on for a stanza, and then 

the music suddenly shifts into shiny upbeat tempo, and the melody is the title song from &quot;Oklahoma&quot;.  But with the lyrics changed to ... Okinawa!  (sing along ... you&#039;re doing fine Okinawa, Okinawa, OK - I - N - A - W - A).  And the song is about how great and wonderful and studly Okinawans are.

And then the song switches back and forth between the slow sad Sakura mode, with more put-downs of Japanese, and back to Oklahoma/Okinawa.

Sample lyrics (reconstructed from memory):

(To the tune of &quot;Sakura&quot;, adagio)
Japanese
Eat raw fish
Two tiny pieces
In one dish 

But ...
(To the tune of &quot;Okalahoma!&quot;, vivace)
Ohhh .. kinawans
Like to eat a chicken cow or pig
At night or noon
With a fork or spoon
Eating portions mighty big

We know we belong to the land ... (sorry, I forget what the Okinawan-styled lyrics were, but you can imagine the rest).


The reason why this song probably works only in Hawaii:  most Americans probably neither know or care anything about Okinawa, and its relationship with Japan.  

Okinawans presumably care plenty, but I doubt they know or care anything about Broadway musicals.

But an Okinawan American (who I presume wrote the song), growing up hearing &quot;Oklahoma&quot;, would be in a unique place to combine the two.  I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever seen an identifiably Okinawan restaurant, store, or person in the mainland US (I&#039;m sure they are there, but they certainly aren&#039;t prominent).  They&#039;re not much more prominent in Hawaii, but there is at least some visible presence -- and audible, in the case of this Oklahoma/Okinawa song.

Serious question:  I understand that Japan colonized Okinawa many years ago, and some (many?) Okinawans are still restive under Japanese rule.  I&#039;m guessing it&#039;s somewhat similar to the relationship between the English and the Irish, but that&#039;s just a guess.  Or maybe the USA and Puerto Rico?  What&#039;s your impression?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funniest Okinawan song I&#8217;ve ever heard (okay, the only one); I heard this on the radio in Hawaii, probably the only place in the world where the humor would work.  I don&#8217;t know who wrote or performed it:</p>
<p>Slow, lugubrious music plays the melody for probably the only Japanese song that non-Japanese recognize, &#8220;Sakura&#8221;, while the singer sings lyrics describing what a bunch of lame losers the Japanese are.  This goes on for a stanza, and then </p>
<p>the music suddenly shifts into shiny upbeat tempo, and the melody is the title song from &#8220;Oklahoma&#8221;.  But with the lyrics changed to &#8230; Okinawa!  (sing along &#8230; you&#8217;re doing fine Okinawa, Okinawa, OK &#8211; I &#8211; N &#8211; A &#8211; W &#8211; A).  And the song is about how great and wonderful and studly Okinawans are.</p>
<p>And then the song switches back and forth between the slow sad Sakura mode, with more put-downs of Japanese, and back to Oklahoma/Okinawa.</p>
<p>Sample lyrics (reconstructed from memory):</p>
<p>(To the tune of &#8220;Sakura&#8221;, adagio)<br />
Japanese<br />
Eat raw fish<br />
Two tiny pieces<br />
In one dish </p>
<p>But &#8230;<br />
(To the tune of &#8220;Okalahoma!&#8221;, vivace)<br />
Ohhh .. kinawans<br />
Like to eat a chicken cow or pig<br />
At night or noon<br />
With a fork or spoon<br />
Eating portions mighty big</p>
<p>We know we belong to the land &#8230; (sorry, I forget what the Okinawan-styled lyrics were, but you can imagine the rest).</p>
<p>The reason why this song probably works only in Hawaii:  most Americans probably neither know or care anything about Okinawa, and its relationship with Japan.  </p>
<p>Okinawans presumably care plenty, but I doubt they know or care anything about Broadway musicals.</p>
<p>But an Okinawan American (who I presume wrote the song), growing up hearing &#8220;Oklahoma&#8221;, would be in a unique place to combine the two.  I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever seen an identifiably Okinawan restaurant, store, or person in the mainland US (I&#8217;m sure they are there, but they certainly aren&#8217;t prominent).  They&#8217;re not much more prominent in Hawaii, but there is at least some visible presence &#8212; and audible, in the case of this Oklahoma/Okinawa song.</p>
<p>Serious question:  I understand that Japan colonized Okinawa many years ago, and some (many?) Okinawans are still restive under Japanese rule.  I&#8217;m guessing it&#8217;s somewhat similar to the relationship between the English and the Irish, but that&#8217;s just a guess.  Or maybe the USA and Puerto Rico?  What&#8217;s your impression?</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
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		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 04:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and I thought &lt;em&gt;everyone&lt;/em&gt; had those camera phones....


ok, well, yeah, I finally got a phone that bends in the middle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and I thought <em>everyone</em> had those camera phones&#8230;.</p>
<p>ok, well, yeah, I finally got a phone that bends in the middle.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 03:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Deanna, yes! The Yuta Omine story is pretty big here. Okinawa is crazy for high school baseball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Deanna, yes! The Yuta Omine story is pretty big here. Okinawa is crazy for high school baseball.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Rust</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Rust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 22:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If your absence increases the Post Intelligence Quotient, does that make you a Post Un-Intelligencer?

Sorry, slow day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your absence increases the Post Intelligence Quotient, does that make you a Post Un-Intelligencer?</p>
<p>Sorry, slow day.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 22:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I carry a lightweight cheapie digital camera in my purse all the time.  You should get a purse, Jeff...


:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I carry a lightweight cheapie digital camera in my purse all the time.  You should get a purse, Jeff&#8230;</p>
<p> <img src='http://ussmariner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Deanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 22:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What, Jeff, isn&#039;t all the stuff about Yuta Omine a big deal down there in Okinawa?  :)

(yeah, ok, so I guess most people don&#039;t consider the hubbub over a #1 draft pick out of an Okinawa high school all that big a deal, but I feel like I&#039;ve seen at least 2-3 articles a week about the kid... and today is industrial/college draft day.  exciting!)

I have a couple pictures of the Ichiro NTT ads that were all around Kansai/Kanto.  They were pretty cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What, Jeff, isn&#8217;t all the stuff about Yuta Omine a big deal down there in Okinawa?  <img src='http://ussmariner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(yeah, ok, so I guess most people don&#8217;t consider the hubbub over a #1 draft pick out of an Okinawa high school all that big a deal, but I feel like I&#8217;ve seen at least 2-3 articles a week about the kid&#8230; and today is industrial/college draft day.  exciting!)</p>
<p>I have a couple pictures of the Ichiro NTT ads that were all around Kansai/Kanto.  They were pretty cool.</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
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		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 20:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;“is there any drawback to living with wild geckos?” &lt;/em&gt;

I recall a fine and exciting gecko vs praying mantis battle described in vivid detail by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.co.uk/Family-Other-Animals-Gerald-Durrell/dp/0141321873&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gerry Durrell&lt;/a&gt;....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>“is there any drawback to living with wild geckos?” </em></p>
<p>I recall a fine and exciting gecko vs praying mantis battle described in vivid detail by <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Family-Other-Animals-Gerald-Durrell/dp/0141321873" rel="nofollow">Gerry Durrell</a>&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: PositivePaul</title>
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		<dc:creator>PositivePaul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Must. Carry. Camera.  Even if you&#039;re not toting the dSLR, ya gotta remember to stash a pocket-sized one on ya somewhere.  Can&#039;t tell you how many times I&#039;ve said to myself in the past few weeks: I wish I brought my camera...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Must. Carry. Camera.  Even if you&#8217;re not toting the dSLR, ya gotta remember to stash a pocket-sized one on ya somewhere.  Can&#8217;t tell you how many times I&#8217;ve said to myself in the past few weeks: I wish I brought my camera&#8230;</p>
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