Comments on: Winter Meetings Predictions http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/03/winter-meetings-predictions/ Seattle Mariners and general baseball discussion with David Cameron and Derek Zumsteg Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:17:03 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: furgig http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/03/winter-meetings-predictions/comment-page-3/#comment-156523 furgig Tue, 05 Dec 2006 02:27:07 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/03/winter-meetings-predictions/#comment-156523 So, if the M's DO aquire Manny without giving up Sexson, what would that do to our FA acquisition budget? What would be left for pitching, and where would we get it, assuming that our best trade pieces would be given up for Manny? This leads me to believe the M's won't go after Manny, since we really need pitching the most, and it seems a foregone conclusion that Bavasi will offer Schmidt too much. So, if the M’s DO aquire Manny without giving up Sexson, what would that do to our FA acquisition budget? What would be left for pitching, and where would we get it, assuming that our best trade pieces would be given up for Manny?

This leads me to believe the M’s won’t go after Manny, since we really need pitching the most, and it seems a foregone conclusion that Bavasi will offer Schmidt too much.

]]> By: NBarnes http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/03/winter-meetings-predictions/comment-page-3/#comment-156521 NBarnes Tue, 05 Dec 2006 02:06:38 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/03/winter-meetings-predictions/#comment-156521 128: I'm pretty sure I don't agree. The Red Sox are already a very very good team. There aren't a lot of things they can do to get as much better as Manny Ramirez makes them over their alternatives in left field. Given the crazy contracts being handed out to outfielders this offseason, one of the reasons that Ramirez is being not just shopped around but asked after by other teams is that you <i>absolutely cannot</i> get players of his caliber for $20 a year right now. If Epstein trades Ramirez, he's not just dumping salary, he's losing a talent that needs to be replaced if Boston is going to send New York home in September. Since Ramirez's contract is far from ludicrous, Epstein really doesn't need to trade Ramirez at all, which is why he's holding out for some crazy package of prospects from Ned Coletti or Putz+Jones here. 128: I’m pretty sure I don’t agree. The Red Sox are already a very very good team. There aren’t a lot of things they can do to get as much better as Manny Ramirez makes them over their alternatives in left field. Given the crazy contracts being handed out to outfielders this offseason, one of the reasons that Ramirez is being not just shopped around but asked after by other teams is that you absolutely cannot get players of his caliber for $20 a year right now. If Epstein trades Ramirez, he’s not just dumping salary, he’s losing a talent that needs to be replaced if Boston is going to send New York home in September. Since Ramirez’s contract is far from ludicrous, Epstein really doesn’t need to trade Ramirez at all, which is why he’s holding out for some crazy package of prospects from Ned Coletti or Putz+Jones here.

]]> By: Bender http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/03/winter-meetings-predictions/comment-page-3/#comment-156520 Bender Tue, 05 Dec 2006 01:59:20 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/03/winter-meetings-predictions/#comment-156520 Thinking we'll be able to dump Sexson and get Manny is wishful thinking. As Mariner fans, it's best to be more realistic. Thinking we’ll be able to dump Sexson and get Manny is wishful thinking. As Mariner fans, it’s best to be more realistic.

]]> By: msb http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/03/winter-meetings-predictions/comment-page-3/#comment-156519 msb Tue, 05 Dec 2006 01:48:23 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/03/winter-meetings-predictions/#comment-156519 as is <a href="http://www.rotoworld.com/content/features/column.aspx?sport=MLB&columnid=151&articleid=27213" rel="nofollow">Aaron Gleeman</a> as is Aaron Gleeman

]]> By: Jim Thomsen http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/03/winter-meetings-predictions/comment-page-3/#comment-156518 Jim Thomsen Tue, 05 Dec 2006 01:46:37 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/03/winter-meetings-predictions/#comment-156518 If I were Theo Epstein, I would see getting rid of Manny's contract as an even trade of losing his service. Being the sharpie he is, he'll come out ahead by stocking the Red Sox organization with a few top prospects. He doesn't need Sexson. Why should Sexson displace Youkilis? If I were Theo, I'd hold firm for a Jones/Putz deal. If I were Theo Epstein, I would see getting rid of Manny’s contract as an even trade of losing his service. Being the sharpie he is, he’ll come out ahead by stocking the Red Sox organization with a few top prospects.

He doesn’t need Sexson. Why should Sexson displace Youkilis?

If I were Theo, I’d hold firm for a Jones/Putz deal.

]]> By: Bender http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/03/winter-meetings-predictions/comment-page-3/#comment-156517 Bender Tue, 05 Dec 2006 01:44:56 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/03/winter-meetings-predictions/#comment-156517 It seems easier to build a bullpen than get an impact hitter like Manny though. It seems easier to build a bullpen than get an impact hitter like Manny though.

]]> By: msb http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/03/winter-meetings-predictions/comment-page-3/#comment-156516 msb Tue, 05 Dec 2006 01:43:18 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/03/winter-meetings-predictions/#comment-156516 <a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/2003453703_webwintermeet03.html" rel="nofollow">Geoff Baker</a> is filing updates from the meetings for the Times... Geoff Baker is filing updates from the meetings for the Times…

]]> By: NBarnes http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/03/winter-meetings-predictions/comment-page-3/#comment-156515 NBarnes Tue, 05 Dec 2006 01:42:06 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/03/winter-meetings-predictions/#comment-156515 Jones would be really thoroughly blocked in Boston, as well, since they have a very shiny centerfielder of their own coming up in Jacob Ellsbury. If the Sox got Jones et al for Ramirez, I'd except further trading to occur as they spin off some of their excess of outfielders. Jones would be really thoroughly blocked in Boston, as well, since they have a very shiny centerfielder of their own coming up in Jacob Ellsbury. If the Sox got Jones et al for Ramirez, I’d except further trading to occur as they spin off some of their excess of outfielders.

]]> By: IdahoInvader http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/03/winter-meetings-predictions/comment-page-3/#comment-156513 IdahoInvader Tue, 05 Dec 2006 01:36:15 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/03/winter-meetings-predictions/#comment-156513 Following these rumors can be sorta weird when you look at the possible (remote as they may be) projections. If we somehow got Manny, kept Sexson, yet lost Soriano, Putz among others in the process, wouldn't we be a lil' too close to the shortcomings of the 1996-97 M's? Granted, those teams at least won...even if scores resembled the Seahawk games. Following these rumors can be sorta weird when you look at the possible (remote as they may be) projections. If we somehow got Manny, kept Sexson, yet lost Soriano, Putz among others in the process, wouldn’t we be a lil’ too close to the shortcomings of the 1996-97 M’s? Granted, those teams at least won…even if scores resembled the Seahawk games.

]]> By: Edman http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/03/winter-meetings-predictions/comment-page-3/#comment-156512 Edman Tue, 05 Dec 2006 01:33:12 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/03/winter-meetings-predictions/#comment-156512 AM.......If I was Detroit, I'd want someone else to close, other than Zumaya.......he was way too scary in the series. It's just a feeling, but I don't think it's something he's going to work out of. AM…….If I was Detroit, I’d want someone else to close, other than Zumaya…….he was way too scary in the series. It’s just a feeling, but I don’t think it’s something he’s going to work out of.

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