Comments on: Ugh http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/06/ugh/ Seattle Mariners and general baseball discussion with David Cameron and Derek Zumsteg Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:17:03 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: mtubaj http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/06/ugh/comment-page-4/#comment-157343 mtubaj Thu, 07 Dec 2006 12:22:45 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/06/ugh/#comment-157343 There is no chance at the moment right now that Soriano's going to start for the Braves. There's not a spot for him to do so. You've got (in order) John Smoltz, Tim Hudson, Mike Hampton, Chuck James, and Kyle Davies. The Braves also have about three or four other players either in the bullpen currently or in AAA Richmond who could be starting in the major leauges right now. Also, the Braves are very unlikely to unload any of their young talent because of payroll constrictions. One more thing. The Braves might be unloading Adam LaRoche, but wouldn't be interested in getting Richie Sexton because his contract would be more than LaRoche's even with arbitration. There is no chance at the moment right now that Soriano’s going to start for the Braves. There’s not a spot for him to do so. You’ve got (in order) John Smoltz, Tim Hudson, Mike Hampton, Chuck James, and Kyle Davies. The Braves also have about three or four other players either in the bullpen currently or in AAA Richmond who could be starting in the major leauges right now. Also, the Braves are very unlikely to unload any of their young talent because of payroll constrictions. One more thing. The Braves might be unloading Adam LaRoche, but wouldn’t be interested in getting Richie Sexton because his contract would be more than LaRoche’s even with arbitration.

]]> By: jephdood http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/06/ugh/comment-page-4/#comment-157238 jephdood Thu, 07 Dec 2006 08:54:48 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/06/ugh/#comment-157238 How about some Bavasi haikus. Ahem.. player value high don't throw away for nothing bill doesn't get it How about some Bavasi haikus.

Ahem..

player value high
don’t throw away for nothing
bill doesn’t get it

]]> By: BoneFan http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/06/ugh/comment-page-4/#comment-157192 BoneFan Thu, 07 Dec 2006 07:58:16 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/06/ugh/#comment-157192 <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2688676" rel="nofollow"> Lilly gets 4/$40 from Cruds. Seems relatibely reasonable for a pitcher who might be a better lefty than Zito. Lou beside himself. Yanks predictably focused on Pettitte, apparently didn't even bid on former farmhand Lilly. Good news for Blue Jays Fans here and abroad: they are closing in on Meche AND Matt Stairs.</a>

Lilly gets 4/$40 from Cruds. Seems relatibely reasonable for a pitcher who might be a better lefty than Zito. Lou beside himself.

Yanks predictably focused on Pettitte, apparently didn’t even bid on former farmhand Lilly.

Good news for Blue Jays Fans here and abroad: they are closing in on Meche AND Matt Stairs.

]]> By: RockstarBill http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/06/ugh/comment-page-4/#comment-157180 RockstarBill Thu, 07 Dec 2006 07:43:42 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/06/ugh/#comment-157180 Does Atlanta have any hot prospects worth this deal? Does Atlanta have any hot prospects worth this deal?

]]> By: Phoenician Todd http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/06/ugh/comment-page-4/#comment-157177 Phoenician Todd Thu, 07 Dec 2006 07:36:48 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/06/ugh/#comment-157177 <em>This trade sucks. They should have tried Soriano in the rotation before trading for someone even more injury prone that Soriano. Bavasi effectively gave away Freddy Garcia, Carlos Guillen and Randy Wynn, getting nothing of value in return–add Soriano to the list.</em> As stated in the next thread about the Soriano trade, you don't evaluate a trade after the fact, you evalute it at the time of its occurrence. At the time, we thought we were getting a good deal with Freddy, Guillen had been an injury problem that wasn't producing nearly what he has been lately, and the Randy Wynn trade was a gamble not designed to help immediatley. While that doesn't defend the suckitude of this trade, I don't feel it's a legit comparison. This trade sucks. They should have tried Soriano in the rotation before trading for someone even more injury prone that Soriano. Bavasi effectively gave away Freddy Garcia, Carlos Guillen and Randy Wynn, getting nothing of value in return–add Soriano to the list.

As stated in the next thread about the Soriano trade, you don’t evaluate a trade after the fact, you evalute it at the time of its occurrence. At the time, we thought we were getting a good deal with Freddy, Guillen had been an injury problem that wasn’t producing nearly what he has been lately, and the Randy Wynn trade was a gamble not designed to help immediatley. While that doesn’t defend the suckitude of this trade, I don’t feel it’s a legit comparison.

]]> By: seattlesundevil http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/06/ugh/comment-page-4/#comment-157176 seattlesundevil Thu, 07 Dec 2006 07:34:45 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/06/ugh/#comment-157176 Churchill is saying there is a prospect involved, although he did not say which side that prospect would be coming from... Any word from YOUR sources Dave? Churchill is saying there is a prospect involved, although he did not say which side that prospect would be coming from… Any word from YOUR sources Dave?

]]> By: Spanky http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/06/ugh/comment-page-4/#comment-157164 Spanky Thu, 07 Dec 2006 07:25:35 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/06/ugh/#comment-157164 Holy Smokes...check out the anagram I came up for Bill Bavasi: Is a b-ball idiot!!! I've never noticed that before!!! Holy Smokes…check out the anagram I came up for Bill Bavasi:

Is a b-ball idiot!!!

I’ve never noticed that before!!!

]]> By: Edman http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/06/ugh/comment-page-4/#comment-157162 Edman Thu, 07 Dec 2006 07:22:47 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/06/ugh/#comment-157162 Reminds me a lot of when Seattle had Randy Johnson on the table. Leaks got out about a deal with the Dodgers being done. Turns out, it was fueled by the internet. Not wanting to be out-scooped, major agencies started reporting rumor as fact. We all know how that turned out. I don't get worked up until I see something official from the M's. Deals are often not what they are made out to be on the internet. If nothing else, it's certainly been a day of non-quotes and comments. Reminds me a lot of when Seattle had Randy Johnson on the table. Leaks got out about a deal with the Dodgers being done. Turns out, it was fueled by the internet. Not wanting to be out-scooped, major agencies started reporting rumor as fact.

We all know how that turned out.

I don’t get worked up until I see something official from the M’s. Deals are often not what they are made out to be on the internet.

If nothing else, it’s certainly been a day of non-quotes and comments.

]]> By: Spanky http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/06/ugh/comment-page-4/#comment-157159 Spanky Thu, 07 Dec 2006 07:18:44 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/06/ugh/#comment-157159 It also seems that all of the major news outlets are starting to quote everyone else to confirm their story. Things like "Multiple news outlets are reporting..." and "People are saying that a deal is in place..." None of it seems credible to me at this point. It also seems that all of the major news outlets are starting to quote everyone else to confirm their story. Things like “Multiple news outlets are reporting…” and “People are saying that a deal is in place…” None of it seems credible to me at this point.

]]> By: CSG http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/06/ugh/comment-page-4/#comment-157157 CSG Thu, 07 Dec 2006 07:16:17 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/12/06/ugh/#comment-157157 From livid curtain's hue, a tangram emerges: a country. From livid curtain’s hue, a tangram emerges: a country.

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