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	<title>Comments on: Lack of learning, looming losses lead to Lincoln layoff?</title>
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		<title>By: terrybenish</title>
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		<dc:creator>terrybenish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 23:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably one of the most thought provoking posts and it has descended into a gaming discussion.

Perhaps we see why the Mariner management thinks that they can do virtually anything and not have it roast them.  Most of the people that are fans here think of the Mariners as a theme park, so lets not get too overwrought about the baseball thing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably one of the most thought provoking posts and it has descended into a gaming discussion.</p>
<p>Perhaps we see why the Mariner management thinks that they can do virtually anything and not have it roast them.  Most of the people that are fans here think of the Mariners as a theme park, so lets not get too overwrought about the baseball thing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: AQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s my two cents worth on the Wii vs 360/PS3 vs PC debate.  I have a Wii, an Xbox 360, and a decent PC (2.8 gHz Dual Core Intel, 1.5 GB RAM (DDR 2 PC 4200), ATI Radeon X800XT graphics card).

The Wii is a system that I typically play when I want to play a &quot;lighter&quot; game (like Wii Sports, for instance).  The Xbox 360 is a system that I use to play sports games primarily (like NBA 2K7) because I personally prefer the console control scheme for sports games as opposed to a PC.  I&#039;ll also play third person shooter games (Max Payne, Grand Theft Auto, that sort) on a console simply because that&#039;s what I am used to.  I typically only use the PC to play first person shooters because I think that a keyboard and mouse configuration for those games kicks ass over any equivalent setup on a console controller (not to mention the difference in responsiveness).

So, while some might use a PC for all of their higher end gaming, I tend to do most of mine on a console.  The deciding factor (for me) is more about which control scheme I am most comfortable and familiar with, rather than which one has the better graphics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my two cents worth on the Wii vs 360/PS3 vs PC debate.  I have a Wii, an Xbox 360, and a decent PC (2.8 gHz Dual Core Intel, 1.5 GB RAM (DDR 2 PC 4200), ATI Radeon X800XT graphics card).</p>
<p>The Wii is a system that I typically play when I want to play a &#8220;lighter&#8221; game (like Wii Sports, for instance).  The Xbox 360 is a system that I use to play sports games primarily (like NBA 2K7) because I personally prefer the console control scheme for sports games as opposed to a PC.  I&#8217;ll also play third person shooter games (Max Payne, Grand Theft Auto, that sort) on a console simply because that&#8217;s what I am used to.  I typically only use the PC to play first person shooters because I think that a keyboard and mouse configuration for those games kicks ass over any equivalent setup on a console controller (not to mention the difference in responsiveness).</p>
<p>So, while some might use a PC for all of their higher end gaming, I tend to do most of mine on a console.  The deciding factor (for me) is more about which control scheme I am most comfortable and familiar with, rather than which one has the better graphics.</p>
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		<title>By: dw</title>
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		<dc:creator>dw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and I have played baseball with the Wii. Next day I had elbow and shoulder pain from the pitching. Should have warmed up first.

I think it&#039;s pretty clear what Nintendo is out to do -- build a device that encourages people to interact. It&#039;s not the graphics dynamo the Comic Book Buy type frag-geeks want. It&#039;s not going to make you go, &quot;Man, I played Grand Theft Auto 16: U District last night, and you should have seen how LIFELIKE it was when I drove an Abrams tank through the U Bookstore!&quot; 

The guy I know who has a Wii has a four year old daughter who plays Zelda, and she loves it. And as said upthread, this is the first time my wife has ever shown a lick of interest in a controller-console video game (vs. Civ or SimCity on the PC). They know who they&#039;re after. If the brain games on the DS didn&#039;t make that apparent, hearing the stories of whole families destroying living rooms playing tennis should.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I have played baseball with the Wii. Next day I had elbow and shoulder pain from the pitching. Should have warmed up first.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s pretty clear what Nintendo is out to do &#8212; build a device that encourages people to interact. It&#8217;s not the graphics dynamo the Comic Book Buy type frag-geeks want. It&#8217;s not going to make you go, &#8220;Man, I played Grand Theft Auto 16: U District last night, and you should have seen how LIFELIKE it was when I drove an Abrams tank through the U Bookstore!&#8221; </p>
<p>The guy I know who has a Wii has a four year old daughter who plays Zelda, and she loves it. And as said upthread, this is the first time my wife has ever shown a lick of interest in a controller-console video game (vs. Civ or SimCity on the PC). They know who they&#8217;re after. If the brain games on the DS didn&#8217;t make that apparent, hearing the stories of whole families destroying living rooms playing tennis should.</p>
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		<title>By: TheEmrys</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheEmrys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gotta tell you, baseball on the Wii is pretty fun.

And in all honesty, Nintendo got it right with the Wii. Rather than the Sony/MS path of making a console a good attempt at reproducing computer games, they made it unique and geared towards more true arcade action. 

Personally, I&#039;ll never do Sony/MS consoles: I have a computer. Rather than $600 for a new console, I can spend $400 on a new video card and blow the consoles away. With prices the way they are, people just may migrate back to PC&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gotta tell you, baseball on the Wii is pretty fun.</p>
<p>And in all honesty, Nintendo got it right with the Wii. Rather than the Sony/MS path of making a console a good attempt at reproducing computer games, they made it unique and geared towards more true arcade action. </p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;ll never do Sony/MS consoles: I have a computer. Rather than $600 for a new console, I can spend $400 on a new video card and blow the consoles away. With prices the way they are, people just may migrate back to PC&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
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		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 20:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#48-- &lt;em&gt;Putting some local talent on the field? Where’s that Sizemore kid from again?&lt;/em&gt; 

ah, wouldn&#039;t it have been nice to have been position to take Sizemore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#48&#8211; <em>Putting some local talent on the field? Where’s that Sizemore kid from again?</em> </p>
<p>ah, wouldn&#8217;t it have been nice to have been position to take Sizemore.</p>
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		<title>By: DMZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DMZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 20:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;was this thread intended to discuss the virtues and vices of the Wii?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, no -- but that it&#039;s gone in that direction into irrelevancy in no way makes it as bad as some of the other ones we&#039;ve had to endure/shut down/delete entirely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>was this thread intended to discuss the virtues and vices of the Wii?</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, no &#8212; but that it&#8217;s gone in that direction into irrelevancy in no way makes it as bad as some of the other ones we&#8217;ve had to endure/shut down/delete entirely.</p>
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		<title>By: JI</title>
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		<dc:creator>JI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 20:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. I personally can&#039;t wait for the USSM evaluation of the Nintendo Wii myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. I personally can&#8217;t wait for the USSM evaluation of the Nintendo Wii myself.</p>
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		<title>By: yellowmoth</title>
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		<dc:creator>yellowmoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 20:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....Our moves this OFF-season....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.Our moves this OFF-season&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: yellowmoth</title>
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		<dc:creator>yellowmoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 20:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got the Wii at launch... My first console since the SNES (usually prefer PC/Mac games) and I must say I&#039;m overwhelmed. Those who say the control mechanism doesn&#039;t add anything just haven&#039;t played yet. Give Raving Rabbids an hour of your time and tell me it&#039;s not a blast unlike anything else. And the main X-Factor: My girlfriend loves the Wii and actually approaches ME asking to play. Kudos to Nintendo on this---their strategy is working if they can get her interested.

Sure, the hard-core crowd isn&#039;t going to want a Wii over the juicier Xbox 360 and PS3, but Nintendo is obviously not targeting that crowd. After a super-fun thanksgiving day with my girlfriend, family, and 50-something parents who haven&#039;t played video games since Galaga at the arcade, I can see where they&#039;re going with this thing. Now, if they could only figure out how to innovate our baseball team in the same way. Sadly, I don&#039;t see this happening anytime soon. Our moves this season look like Nintendo&#039;s moves from the N64 generation. (Stubbornly resisting the new while alienating its long-time customers)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got the Wii at launch&#8230; My first console since the SNES (usually prefer PC/Mac games) and I must say I&#8217;m overwhelmed. Those who say the control mechanism doesn&#8217;t add anything just haven&#8217;t played yet. Give Raving Rabbids an hour of your time and tell me it&#8217;s not a blast unlike anything else. And the main X-Factor: My girlfriend loves the Wii and actually approaches ME asking to play. Kudos to Nintendo on this&#8212;their strategy is working if they can get her interested.</p>
<p>Sure, the hard-core crowd isn&#8217;t going to want a Wii over the juicier Xbox 360 and PS3, but Nintendo is obviously not targeting that crowd. After a super-fun thanksgiving day with my girlfriend, family, and 50-something parents who haven&#8217;t played video games since Galaga at the arcade, I can see where they&#8217;re going with this thing. Now, if they could only figure out how to innovate our baseball team in the same way. Sadly, I don&#8217;t see this happening anytime soon. Our moves this season look like Nintendo&#8217;s moves from the N64 generation. (Stubbornly resisting the new while alienating its long-time customers)</p>
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		<title>By: atait</title>
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		<dc:creator>atait</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 20:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DMZ - was this thread intended to discuss the virtues and vices of the Wii?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DMZ &#8211; was this thread intended to discuss the virtues and vices of the Wii?</p>
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