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	<title>Comments on: Denial of Ichiro comments</title>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/01/12/denial-of-ichiro-comments/comment-page-2/#comment-162621</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 01:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, you guys sure were wound up tighter than an old-timey watch mainspring yesterday.  I just got back from a week&#039;s vacation, and I felt my neck and shoulder muscles tightening back up just reading this thread...

I&#039;d suggest a vacation for each and everyone of you, hopefully to occupy your time between now and a month from now, when P/C report.

Then we&#039;ll have a whole raft of new things to complain about, presumably.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, you guys sure were wound up tighter than an old-timey watch mainspring yesterday.  I just got back from a week&#8217;s vacation, and I felt my neck and shoulder muscles tightening back up just reading this thread&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d suggest a vacation for each and everyone of you, hopefully to occupy your time between now and a month from now, when P/C report.</p>
<p>Then we&#8217;ll have a whole raft of new things to complain about, presumably.</p>
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		<title>By: pdb</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/01/12/denial-of-ichiro-comments/comment-page-2/#comment-162589</link>
		<dc:creator>pdb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 09:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Are comments about trading Hargrove for ticket stubs or bobbleheads childish or bizarre?&lt;/i&gt;

I prefer inane, thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Are comments about trading Hargrove for ticket stubs or bobbleheads childish or bizarre?</i></p>
<p>I prefer inane, thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: DMZ</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/01/12/denial-of-ichiro-comments/comment-page-2/#comment-162587</link>
		<dc:creator>DMZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 06:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Piniella had a year left on his M&#039;s contract at the time. They traded a manager. (&lt;a href=&quot;http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/93278_lou29.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;PI&lt;/a&gt;)

&lt;blockquote&gt;The trade was the compensation Seattle required from Tampa Bay in order for the Devil Rays to talk to Piniella, who had one year left on his contract when he asked to move closer to his Tampa home two weeks ago.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Piniella had a year left on his M&#8217;s contract at the time. They traded a manager. (<a href="http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/93278_lou29.shtml" rel="nofollow">PI</a>)</p>
<blockquote><p>The trade was the compensation Seattle required from Tampa Bay in order for the Devil Rays to talk to Piniella, who had one year left on his contract when he asked to move closer to his Tampa home two weeks ago.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: DMZ</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/01/12/denial-of-ichiro-comments/comment-page-2/#comment-162586</link>
		<dc:creator>DMZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 05:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d have to go look at the details of the transaction, but I believe that because of some of the weirdness around his contract, the Devil Rays didn&#039;t so much acquire a Lou Piniella contract as they acquired the rights to negotiate with him, which the M&#039;s held, and the deal was contingent on their ability to reach an agreement... which they did.

Now, the part I really don&#039;t remember is what rights the M&#039;s held at the time of the trade to Piniella&#039;s contract, and whether that was contractual in the deal they signed, or something else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d have to go look at the details of the transaction, but I believe that because of some of the weirdness around his contract, the Devil Rays didn&#8217;t so much acquire a Lou Piniella contract as they acquired the rights to negotiate with him, which the M&#8217;s held, and the deal was contingent on their ability to reach an agreement&#8230; which they did.</p>
<p>Now, the part I really don&#8217;t remember is what rights the M&#8217;s held at the time of the trade to Piniella&#8217;s contract, and whether that was contractual in the deal they signed, or something else.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/01/12/denial-of-ichiro-comments/comment-page-2/#comment-162585</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 05:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Are comments about trading Hargrove for ticket stubs or bobbleheads childish or bizarre?&lt;/i&gt; 

Bizarre, perhaps. It&#039;s not exactly a commonplace situation overall. Childish? If you can pick up a scrapheap manager from somewhere and improve your team while getting something, albeit minor, in return for your current manager, I think that&#039;s a good decision. I don&#039;t see how it&#039;s childish to point that out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Are comments about trading Hargrove for ticket stubs or bobbleheads childish or bizarre?</i> </p>
<p>Bizarre, perhaps. It&#8217;s not exactly a commonplace situation overall. Childish? If you can pick up a scrapheap manager from somewhere and improve your team while getting something, albeit minor, in return for your current manager, I think that&#8217;s a good decision. I don&#8217;t see how it&#8217;s childish to point that out.</p>
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		<title>By: terry</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/01/12/denial-of-ichiro-comments/comment-page-2/#comment-162584</link>
		<dc:creator>terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 05:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not really but...

&lt;blockquote&gt;I know the Rays probably worked out contractual details with Tampa beforehand &lt;/blockquote&gt;

this would trully be bizarre....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not really but&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>I know the Rays probably worked out contractual details with Tampa beforehand </p></blockquote>
<p>this would trully be bizarre&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: scott47a</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott47a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 05:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are comments about trading Hargrove for ticket stubs or bobbleheads childish or bizarre?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are comments about trading Hargrove for ticket stubs or bobbleheads childish or bizarre?</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 05:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Who wouldn’t take that deal? Really. &lt;/em&gt;

Bavasi?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Who wouldn’t take that deal? Really. </em></p>
<p>Bavasi?</p>
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		<title>By: DMZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DMZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 05:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hargrove for a bag of BP balls and old ticket stubs?

Who wouldn&#039;t take that deal? Really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hargrove for a bag of BP balls and old ticket stubs?</p>
<p>Who wouldn&#8217;t take that deal? Really.</p>
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		<title>By: terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 05:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#84:  I&#039;d settle for a bobblehead of Earl Weaver in return...  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#84:  I&#8217;d settle for a bobblehead of Earl Weaver in return&#8230;  <img src='http://ussmariner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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