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	<title>Comments on: Spring training almost starting&#8230; almost&#8230; almost&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: John D.</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/14/spring-training-almost-starting-almost-almost/comment-page-2/#comment-164543</link>
		<dc:creator>John D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 02:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Any update on when THE CHEATER&#039;S GUIDE will be shipped?&lt;/em&gt;

I just ordered it (and also ordered BURYING THE BLACK SOX). Amazon says that it will be shipped on April 6. (It should arrive just after we&#039;ve lost interest in the 2007 Mariners--well after, for some.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Any update on when THE CHEATER&#8217;S GUIDE will be shipped?</em></p>
<p>I just ordered it (and also ordered BURYING THE BLACK SOX). Amazon says that it will be shipped on April 6. (It should arrive just after we&#8217;ve lost interest in the 2007 Mariners&#8211;well after, for some.)</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/14/spring-training-almost-starting-almost-almost/comment-page-2/#comment-164539</link>
		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 01:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Art Thiel checks in with &lt;a href=&quot;http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/thiel/303746_thiel15.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lou&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art Thiel checks in with <a href="http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/thiel/303746_thiel15.html" rel="nofollow">Lou</a></p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/14/spring-training-almost-starting-almost-almost/comment-page-2/#comment-164537</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 01:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But given year after year of evidence that the other guy is spending his smaller payroll more efficiently, don&#039;t you think they&#039;d pick upi on that?

That they continue to believe that they have the first clue about how to spend their money is just mind-boggling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But given year after year of evidence that the other guy is spending his smaller payroll more efficiently, don&#8217;t you think they&#8217;d pick upi on that?</p>
<p>That they continue to believe that they have the first clue about how to spend their money is just mind-boggling.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph_Malph</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/14/spring-training-almost-starting-almost-almost/comment-page-2/#comment-164535</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph_Malph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 01:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Unfortunately, they still fail to grasp that it’s not how much you spend, but rather how you spend it. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t think they fail to grasp that.  I think they just have a different idea of how they ought to be spending their money than you  -- or I -- do.  They&#039;re not &lt;strong&gt;trying&lt;/strong&gt; to spend their money foolishly, it just works out that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Unfortunately, they still fail to grasp that it’s not how much you spend, but rather how you spend it. </p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t think they fail to grasp that.  I think they just have a different idea of how they ought to be spending their money than you  &#8212; or I &#8212; do.  They&#8217;re not <strong>trying</strong> to spend their money foolishly, it just works out that way.</p>
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		<title>By: billT</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/14/spring-training-almost-starting-almost-almost/comment-page-2/#comment-164533</link>
		<dc:creator>billT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 00:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This might be grounds for another thread, as I’m wondering if the numbers actually add up.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What&#039;s sad is that I think the FO expects us to be impressed that they upped the payroll. Unfortunately, they still fail to grasp that it&#039;s not how much you spend, but rather how you spend it. Maybe a few more years of getting beaten up by an Oakland team with a much smaller payroll will teach them that, but I&#039;m not counting on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This might be grounds for another thread, as I’m wondering if the numbers actually add up.</p></blockquote>
<p>What&#8217;s sad is that I think the FO expects us to be impressed that they upped the payroll. Unfortunately, they still fail to grasp that it&#8217;s not how much you spend, but rather how you spend it. Maybe a few more years of getting beaten up by an Oakland team with a much smaller payroll will teach them that, but I&#8217;m not counting on it.</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/14/spring-training-almost-starting-almost-almost/comment-page-2/#comment-164532</link>
		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 00:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baker &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/mariners/2007/02/controversial_trainer_not_head.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;addresses&lt;/a&gt; the Guillen &amp; Presinal connection that DMZ linked to last month...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baker <a href="http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/mariners/2007/02/controversial_trainer_not_head.html" rel="nofollow">addresses</a> the Guillen &amp; Presinal connection that DMZ linked to last month&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph_Malph</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/14/spring-training-almost-starting-almost-almost/comment-page-2/#comment-164531</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph_Malph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 00:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bullpen overuse can result not only from pitching too many innings but also from getting up too many times.  If Hargrove is getting guys up 2-3 times during a game and not putting them in he&#039;s using them just as much as if he gets them in and they pitch a quick inning.  

There were way too many times last year when he&#039;d burn through 3 pitchers in quick succession for no particular reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bullpen overuse can result not only from pitching too many innings but also from getting up too many times.  If Hargrove is getting guys up 2-3 times during a game and not putting them in he&#8217;s using them just as much as if he gets them in and they pitch a quick inning.  </p>
<p>There were way too many times last year when he&#8217;d burn through 3 pitchers in quick succession for no particular reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 23:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember posting once last year, regarding the bullpen use.  Hargrove and the papers were saying the bullpen was being overused and that they needed another reliever.  I checked, and none of the relievers had pitched as much as 3 innings in the last 7 days at that time.

I&#039;m in agreement that I would rather have another player available on the bench than a 12th pitcher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember posting once last year, regarding the bullpen use.  Hargrove and the papers were saying the bullpen was being overused and that they needed another reliever.  I checked, and none of the relievers had pitched as much as 3 innings in the last 7 days at that time.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in agreement that I would rather have another player available on the bench than a 12th pitcher.</p>
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		<title>By: carcinogen</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/14/spring-training-almost-starting-almost-almost/comment-page-2/#comment-164529</link>
		<dc:creator>carcinogen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 23:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone seen the Stone column? http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/2003572621_marimoney15.html

This might be grounds for another thread, as I&#039;m wondering if the numbers actually add up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone seen the Stone column? <a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/2003572621_marimoney15.html" rel="nofollow">http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/2003572621_marimoney15.html</a></p>
<p>This might be grounds for another thread, as I&#8217;m wondering if the numbers actually add up.</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/14/spring-training-almost-starting-almost-almost/comment-page-2/#comment-164528</link>
		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 23:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ahh, good. &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.search.yahoo.com/news/search?p=mariners&amp;c=news_photos&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Elaine Thompson&lt;/a&gt; is also on the job in Peoria.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ahh, good. <a href="http://news.search.yahoo.com/news/search?p=mariners&amp;c=news_photos" rel="nofollow">Elaine Thompson</a> is also on the job in Peoria.</p>
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