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	<title>Comments on: Gary Matthews Jr implicated in new steroids probe</title>
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	<description>Seattle Mariners and general baseball discussion with David Cameron and Derek Zumsteg</description>
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		<title>By: Mike Snow</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/27/gary-matthews-jr-implicated-in-new-steroids-probe/comment-page-1/#comment-165659</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Snow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 05:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, reportedly growth hormone purchased in 2004. As I was saying before, that&#039;s not proof that he used it. Assuming he did try it, it&#039;s also not proof that he didn&#039;t use other things.

It&#039;s interesting to note that this is in the year penalties were first attached to steroids tests. Grimsley said he switched over to growth hormone only at this point after using other stuff before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, reportedly growth hormone purchased in 2004. As I was saying before, that&#8217;s not proof that he used it. Assuming he did try it, it&#8217;s also not proof that he didn&#8217;t use other things.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting to note that this is in the year penalties were first attached to steroids tests. Grimsley said he switched over to growth hormone only at this point after using other stuff before.</p>
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		<title>By: DMZ</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/27/gary-matthews-jr-implicated-in-new-steroids-probe/comment-page-1/#comment-165612</link>
		<dc:creator>DMZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess we&#039;ll have to wait for the book to discuss that aspect, but I&#039;ll say... me. I say that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess we&#8217;ll have to wait for the book to discuss that aspect, but I&#8217;ll say&#8230; me. I say that.</p>
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		<title>By: big hawna</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/27/gary-matthews-jr-implicated-in-new-steroids-probe/comment-page-1/#comment-165607</link>
		<dc:creator>big hawna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who says raw power is where steroids help? 

Steroids increase your muscle mass in relation to the rest of your body weight, steroids improve your quickness, and endurance. They are used by cricketers, basketball players, track and field atletes, cyclists, boxers... Not just the McGwires of the world...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who says raw power is where steroids help? </p>
<p>Steroids increase your muscle mass in relation to the rest of your body weight, steroids improve your quickness, and endurance. They are used by cricketers, basketball players, track and field atletes, cyclists, boxers&#8230; Not just the McGwires of the world&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hornets Attack Victor Zambrano!</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/27/gary-matthews-jr-implicated-in-new-steroids-probe/comment-page-1/#comment-165585</link>
		<dc:creator>Hornets Attack Victor Zambrano!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 04:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I foresee a budding industry in selling steroid metabolites to teams that want to dump a bad contract.

&quot;Sorry, Mr. Meche, you tested positive.  Off you go!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I foresee a budding industry in selling steroid metabolites to teams that want to dump a bad contract.</p>
<p>&#8220;Sorry, Mr. Meche, you tested positive.  Off you go!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/27/gary-matthews-jr-implicated-in-new-steroids-probe/comment-page-1/#comment-165584</link>
		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 04:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wonder if the players will have any recourse to their names coming out, when promised they would remain secret....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wonder if the players will have any recourse to their names coming out, when promised they would remain secret&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: oNeiRiC232</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/27/gary-matthews-jr-implicated-in-new-steroids-probe/comment-page-1/#comment-165577</link>
		<dc:creator>oNeiRiC232</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 03:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want GMJ to come up so clean that they find Lysol in his stool.

Or in other words, I want the Angels to feel the full brunt of that contract without any excuses or cop-outs.

Go go Whizzinator, GMJ!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want GMJ to come up so clean that they find Lysol in his stool.</p>
<p>Or in other words, I want the Angels to feel the full brunt of that contract without any excuses or cop-outs.</p>
<p>Go go Whizzinator, GMJ!</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Malph</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/27/gary-matthews-jr-implicated-in-new-steroids-probe/comment-page-1/#comment-165576</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph Malph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 03:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s hear it for small, selfish, petty little men.  Being one myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s hear it for small, selfish, petty little men.  Being one myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Tek Jansen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tek Jansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 03:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a small, selfish, petty little man, and that is why I hope that this news has a tremendous damaging effect on the play of Matthews and the Angels&#039; season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a small, selfish, petty little man, and that is why I hope that this news has a tremendous damaging effect on the play of Matthews and the Angels&#8217; season.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Snow</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/27/gary-matthews-jr-implicated-in-new-steroids-probe/comment-page-1/#comment-165573</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Snow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 03:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if the issue is whether somebody can get suspended purely for use that predates the agreed testing-and-suspension regime, I doubt there will ever be a test case. We&#039;ll simply have to wait out the passage of time on that, until the current generation of players retires.

If the issue is what justifies a non-analytical positive, that may well be tested eventually. Without an admission, presumably the union would want to emphasize the &quot;reasonable cause&quot; option and argue that MLB should have to test players to confirm its suspicions, instead of going straight to the suspension.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if the issue is whether somebody can get suspended purely for use that predates the agreed testing-and-suspension regime, I doubt there will ever be a test case. We&#8217;ll simply have to wait out the passage of time on that, until the current generation of players retires.</p>
<p>If the issue is what justifies a non-analytical positive, that may well be tested eventually. Without an admission, presumably the union would want to emphasize the &#8220;reasonable cause&#8221; option and argue that MLB should have to test players to confirm its suspicions, instead of going straight to the suspension.</p>
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		<title>By: DMZ</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/27/gary-matthews-jr-implicated-in-new-steroids-probe/comment-page-1/#comment-165571</link>
		<dc:creator>DMZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 02:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t know yet. There hasn&#039;t been a test case: MLB didn&#039;t act on the BALCO grand jury testimony, for example, and Giambi didn&#039;t admit outside the jury that he did.

Grimsley&#039;s admission, though, at least shows that you can get punished while not testing positive.

Until MLB attempts it, we don&#039;t know what happens in practice. But hypothetically, there are provisions that could allow MLB to suspend a player over something like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t know yet. There hasn&#8217;t been a test case: MLB didn&#8217;t act on the BALCO grand jury testimony, for example, and Giambi didn&#8217;t admit outside the jury that he did.</p>
<p>Grimsley&#8217;s admission, though, at least shows that you can get punished while not testing positive.</p>
<p>Until MLB attempts it, we don&#8217;t know what happens in practice. But hypothetically, there are provisions that could allow MLB to suspend a player over something like this.</p>
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