Comments on: Pitching Projections http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/28/pitching-projections/ Seattle Mariners and general baseball discussion with David Cameron and Derek Zumsteg Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:00:02 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: chrisisasavage http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/28/pitching-projections/comment-page-1/#comment-165666 chrisisasavage Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:01:09 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/28/pitching-projections/#comment-165666 Grounball pitchers usually give up more unearned runs than flyball pitchers. Grounball pitchers usually give up more unearned runs than flyball pitchers.

]]> By: Jeff Sullivan http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/28/pitching-projections/comment-page-1/#comment-165664 Jeff Sullivan Thu, 01 Mar 2007 19:49:49 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/28/pitching-projections/#comment-165664 Yeah. I was having a pretty stupid Wednesday when I wrote that. Yeah. I was having a pretty stupid Wednesday when I wrote that.

]]> By: david h http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/28/pitching-projections/comment-page-1/#comment-165662 david h Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:55:09 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/28/pitching-projections/#comment-165662 Shouldn't RA almost always be worse than the components, since it includes unearned runs? Shouldn’t RA almost always be worse than the components, since it includes unearned runs?

]]> By: phildopip1 http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/28/pitching-projections/comment-page-1/#comment-165654 phildopip1 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 02:16:52 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/28/pitching-projections/#comment-165654 2 - Isn't that the nature of groundballers? Looking at the top 20 groundballers in the league, many of them have a higher RA than FIP. Check it out: Derek Lowe - 4.00 RA/3.72 FIP Brandon Webb - 3.49 RA/3.20 FIP Chien Wang - 3.80 RA/3.97 FIP Jake Westbrook - 4.51 RA/3.93 FIP Aaron Cook - 4.53 RA/4.11 FIP Felix Hernandez - 4.95 RA/3.99 FIP Tim Hudson - 5.32 RA/4.49 FIP Roy Halladay - 3.35 RA/3.65 FIP Clay Hensley - 3.85 RA/4.11 FIP Chris Carpenter - 3.29 RA/3.47 FIP Paul Maholm - 5.01 RA/4.77 FIP Miguel Batista - 5.06 RA/4.52 FIP Zach Duke - 4.85 RA/4.12 FIP Kenny Rogers - 4.28 RA/4.77 FIP Andy Pettitte - 4.79 RA/4.08 FIP Erik Bedard - 4.22 RA/3.71 FIP Roy Oswalt - 3.10 RA/3.32 FIP Jeremy Bonderman - 4.37 RA/3.31 FIP Dontrelle Willis - 4.27 RA/4.30 FIP Joel Pineiro - 6.68 RA/5.12 FIP Out of the top 20 in GB%, only really 6 (Dontrelle Willis is close enough to even) outperformed their FIP (Wang, Halladay, Hensley, Carpenter, Rogers, and Oswalt). 2 – Isn’t that the nature of groundballers? Looking at the top 20 groundballers in the league, many of them have a higher RA than FIP. Check it out:

Derek Lowe – 4.00 RA/3.72 FIP
Brandon Webb – 3.49 RA/3.20 FIP
Chien Wang – 3.80 RA/3.97 FIP
Jake Westbrook – 4.51 RA/3.93 FIP
Aaron Cook – 4.53 RA/4.11 FIP
Felix Hernandez – 4.95 RA/3.99 FIP
Tim Hudson – 5.32 RA/4.49 FIP
Roy Halladay – 3.35 RA/3.65 FIP
Clay Hensley – 3.85 RA/4.11 FIP
Chris Carpenter – 3.29 RA/3.47 FIP
Paul Maholm – 5.01 RA/4.77 FIP
Miguel Batista – 5.06 RA/4.52 FIP
Zach Duke – 4.85 RA/4.12 FIP
Kenny Rogers – 4.28 RA/4.77 FIP
Andy Pettitte – 4.79 RA/4.08 FIP
Erik Bedard – 4.22 RA/3.71 FIP
Roy Oswalt – 3.10 RA/3.32 FIP
Jeremy Bonderman – 4.37 RA/3.31 FIP
Dontrelle Willis – 4.27 RA/4.30 FIP
Joel Pineiro – 6.68 RA/5.12 FIP

Out of the top 20 in GB%, only really 6 (Dontrelle Willis is close enough to even) outperformed their FIP (Wang, Halladay, Hensley, Carpenter, Rogers, and Oswalt).

]]> By: Panev http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/28/pitching-projections/comment-page-1/#comment-165650 Panev Thu, 01 Mar 2007 01:31:26 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/28/pitching-projections/#comment-165650 I received the email and immediately clicked on the link. 25 people were already in the google spreadsheet ahead of me. I think everyone is ready for the season to start. I received the email and immediately clicked on the link. 25 people were already in the google spreadsheet ahead of me.

I think everyone is ready for the season to start.

]]> By: Jeff Sullivan http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/28/pitching-projections/comment-page-1/#comment-165646 Jeff Sullivan Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:10:54 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/28/pitching-projections/#comment-165646 Man, a lot of people think Felix's RA is going to exceed his components again. Man, a lot of people think Felix’s RA is going to exceed his components again.

]]> By: David J. Corcoran I http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/28/pitching-projections/comment-page-1/#comment-165643 David J. Corcoran I Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:00:36 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/28/pitching-projections/#comment-165643 Just don't be like DMZ and peg him with 450 strikeouts. Just don’t be like DMZ and peg him with 450 strikeouts.

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