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		<title>By: Johnny Slick</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/03/06/ms-win-ms-win-2/comment-page-1/#comment-166072</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny Slick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 23:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paragraphs, #40, paragraphs. Especially if you&#039;re going to rip on someone who writes for a living (granted, someone whose own idea of paragraphing follows the Mike Lupica One Sentence Per Rule).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paragraphs, #40, paragraphs. Especially if you&#8217;re going to rip on someone who writes for a living (granted, someone whose own idea of paragraphing follows the Mike Lupica One Sentence Per Rule).</p>
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		<title>By: davepaisley</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/03/06/ms-win-ms-win-2/comment-page-1/#comment-166055</link>
		<dc:creator>davepaisley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve Kelley == Grandpa Simpson

And #37, it&#039;s D-E-I-T-Y, not diety. The latter would be some god of weight reduction, I guess :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Kelley == Grandpa Simpson</p>
<p>And #37, it&#8217;s D-E-I-T-Y, not diety. The latter would be some god of weight reduction, I guess <img src='http://ussmariner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/03/06/ms-win-ms-win-2/comment-page-1/#comment-166051</link>
		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Yes, it’s spring, and yes, it’s meaningless, but did you notice that Willie Boom Boom “hit” third in today’s lineup&lt;/blockquote&gt;

from Hargrove today: 

&quot;Ibañez wasn&#039;t the only Mariner on hold Tuesday - Hargrove had to scramble together a lineup that didn&#039;t include Jose Vidro (flu), Jose Lopez (ankle) or Jose Guillen (day off), and wound up with Willie Bloomquist batting third.

&quot;I had to take a look at myself in the mirror after putting Willie&#039;s name in the third spot,&quot; Hargrove said.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yes, it’s spring, and yes, it’s meaningless, but did you notice that Willie Boom Boom “hit” third in today’s lineup</p></blockquote>
<p>from Hargrove today: </p>
<p>&#8220;Ibañez wasn&#8217;t the only Mariner on hold Tuesday &#8211; Hargrove had to scramble together a lineup that didn&#8217;t include Jose Vidro (flu), Jose Lopez (ankle) or Jose Guillen (day off), and wound up with Willie Bloomquist batting third.</p>
<p>&#8220;I had to take a look at myself in the mirror after putting Willie&#8217;s name in the third spot,&#8221; Hargrove said.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Rain Delay</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/03/06/ms-win-ms-win-2/comment-page-1/#comment-166019</link>
		<dc:creator>Rain Delay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 17:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Most in the radio and print professions fear all forms of internet media, because it takes focus from and threatens their professions.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t know about print media, because I&#039;m not a part of it. But I am in radio, and last time I checked Internet was not on my list of fears of anything. Yes it can be another thing to compete against, but as far as fear goes. No. The internet doesn&#039;t threaten what I do or how I do it, it&#039;s just another factor to add in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Most in the radio and print professions fear all forms of internet media, because it takes focus from and threatens their professions.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about print media, because I&#8217;m not a part of it. But I am in radio, and last time I checked Internet was not on my list of fears of anything. Yes it can be another thing to compete against, but as far as fear goes. No. The internet doesn&#8217;t threaten what I do or how I do it, it&#8217;s just another factor to add in.</p>
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		<title>By: firova</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/03/06/ms-win-ms-win-2/comment-page-1/#comment-166018</link>
		<dc:creator>firova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 17:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that Kelley made up a blog rather than actually consulting any says it all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that Kelley made up a blog rather than actually consulting any says it all.</p>
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		<title>By: Salty Dog</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/03/06/ms-win-ms-win-2/comment-page-1/#comment-166017</link>
		<dc:creator>Salty Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually think we can expect to see this on a regular basis from HoRam.  Not ace-type stuff, but plenty of games with about as many strikeouts as walks, tons of ground ball outs, and not many runs on the board.  He at least has some sort of plan on the mound.

Weaver&#039;s the guy I&#039;m worried about.  He&#039;s not a lefty in Safeco and doesn&#039;t have a solid plan.  He&#039;s just going to throw some stuff over the plate and likely get hammered on a regular basis.

If there&#039;s anyone who&#039;s likely to post a 5+ ERA, I submit it&#039;s Weaver.  I look for HoRam and Batista to sit in the mid 4&#039;s.

Basically, Weaver 2007 could very well be Pineiro of 2006.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually think we can expect to see this on a regular basis from HoRam.  Not ace-type stuff, but plenty of games with about as many strikeouts as walks, tons of ground ball outs, and not many runs on the board.  He at least has some sort of plan on the mound.</p>
<p>Weaver&#8217;s the guy I&#8217;m worried about.  He&#8217;s not a lefty in Safeco and doesn&#8217;t have a solid plan.  He&#8217;s just going to throw some stuff over the plate and likely get hammered on a regular basis.</p>
<p>If there&#8217;s anyone who&#8217;s likely to post a 5+ ERA, I submit it&#8217;s Weaver.  I look for HoRam and Batista to sit in the mid 4&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Basically, Weaver 2007 could very well be Pineiro of 2006.</p>
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		<title>By: _David_</title>
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		<dc:creator>_David_</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>email I sent Kelley: 

I don&#039;t understand your column today.  Obviously your fictionalized &quot;blogosphere&quot; findings were an allegory for underinformed fan rantings, but I don&#039;t see the substance.  Where is the evidence that anyone cares that the Mariners are losing in spring training?  If your point is that some fans are underinformed and irrational, that is obvious and doesn&#039;t need a column devoted to it.  If it&#039;s about fans being impatient with Hargrove, wouldn&#039;t analysis of the validity of this impatience or of his managing ability or the security of his job be in order?  The obvious fact that spring training doesn&#039;t relate to managing ability is not defense of one&#039;s managing ability.  The whole basis of the column is the unfounded and unsupported claim that people care about game related managerial tactics during spring training.  I&#039;m sure if you could find some idiot who thinks that, but what would be the point?  It seems you&#039;re only purpose here is mocking the internet baseball community, that which your article portrays as troglodytes.  I&#039;ve seen the best and worst of amatuer internet sports journalism.  There are places that are black holes of endless time eating stupidity, but also those with real credentials and deep understanding that offer analysis and insight surpassing even your own.  I believe people can be trusted to pick and choose where they find their analysis, and have the ability judge quality and to tell what lines of criticism are stupid and pointless.  Attacking uninformed, ignorant idiots doesn&#039;t make Hargrove a better manager.  He is a terrible manager because the decisions he makes when it counts and his lack of understanding of the game as demonstrated by what he says to the press.  Your column did make one valuable point.  The Soriano deal was a terrible trade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>email I sent Kelley: </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand your column today.  Obviously your fictionalized &#8220;blogosphere&#8221; findings were an allegory for underinformed fan rantings, but I don&#8217;t see the substance.  Where is the evidence that anyone cares that the Mariners are losing in spring training?  If your point is that some fans are underinformed and irrational, that is obvious and doesn&#8217;t need a column devoted to it.  If it&#8217;s about fans being impatient with Hargrove, wouldn&#8217;t analysis of the validity of this impatience or of his managing ability or the security of his job be in order?  The obvious fact that spring training doesn&#8217;t relate to managing ability is not defense of one&#8217;s managing ability.  The whole basis of the column is the unfounded and unsupported claim that people care about game related managerial tactics during spring training.  I&#8217;m sure if you could find some idiot who thinks that, but what would be the point?  It seems you&#8217;re only purpose here is mocking the internet baseball community, that which your article portrays as troglodytes.  I&#8217;ve seen the best and worst of amatuer internet sports journalism.  There are places that are black holes of endless time eating stupidity, but also those with real credentials and deep understanding that offer analysis and insight surpassing even your own.  I believe people can be trusted to pick and choose where they find their analysis, and have the ability judge quality and to tell what lines of criticism are stupid and pointless.  Attacking uninformed, ignorant idiots doesn&#8217;t make Hargrove a better manager.  He is a terrible manager because the decisions he makes when it counts and his lack of understanding of the game as demonstrated by what he says to the press.  Your column did make one valuable point.  The Soriano deal was a terrible trade.</p>
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		<title>By: _David_</title>
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		<dc:creator>_David_</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 13:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let Steve Kelley lash out if he wants.  Most in the radio and print professions fear all forms of internet media, because it takes focus from and threatens their professions.  Just accept that Kelley&#039;s more irrational than most and as we all have an image of the irrational, uninformed fan (for many of us it&#039;s Steve Kelley) for him it&#039;s the bubbling mass of the internet.  He&#039;s really just yelling at what he sees as unreasonable scrutiny or worrying, only instead of something he overheard in a bar, it&#039;s something he read on the internet, and we all know internet Marinerville can sink to disturbing depths.  Kelley was just looking for something to write.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let Steve Kelley lash out if he wants.  Most in the radio and print professions fear all forms of internet media, because it takes focus from and threatens their professions.  Just accept that Kelley&#8217;s more irrational than most and as we all have an image of the irrational, uninformed fan (for many of us it&#8217;s Steve Kelley) for him it&#8217;s the bubbling mass of the internet.  He&#8217;s really just yelling at what he sees as unreasonable scrutiny or worrying, only instead of something he overheard in a bar, it&#8217;s something he read on the internet, and we all know internet Marinerville can sink to disturbing depths.  Kelley was just looking for something to write.</p>
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		<title>By: _David_</title>
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		<dc:creator>_David_</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 13:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>29:  I&#039;ve heard the tired words used to praise WFB, but I think what&#039;s often overlooked is his moxie and gumption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>29:  I&#8217;ve heard the tired words used to praise WFB, but I think what&#8217;s often overlooked is his moxie and gumption.</p>
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		<title>By: CSG</title>
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		<dc:creator>CSG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 12:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realize I&#039;ve already spent way too much time on Steve Kelley when I should really be studying, and this is it for me, but here&#039;s the last two sentences of the email I wrote to him in response:

&lt;blockquote&gt; I hope you have made peace with the diseased diety you pray to while you write your excretory missives, as your profession is in its death throes.  Damn you again.  &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Pressing &#039;send&#039; felt really good there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize I&#8217;ve already spent way too much time on Steve Kelley when I should really be studying, and this is it for me, but here&#8217;s the last two sentences of the email I wrote to him in response:</p>
<blockquote><p> I hope you have made peace with the diseased diety you pray to while you write your excretory missives, as your profession is in its death throes.  Damn you again.  </p></blockquote>
<p>Pressing &#8217;send&#8217; felt really good there.</p>
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