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	<title>Comments on: Jim Rice beware</title>
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		<title>By: tangotiger</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/04/03/jim-rice-beware/comment-page-2/#comment-170068</link>
		<dc:creator>tangotiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 23:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just taking a look at their b-r.com pages:

Vidro gets a GIDP 10% of the time there&#039;s a guy on 1B (including 2 outs), and Ichiro is 4-5%.  (The average is around 7 or 8%, and Jim Rice is almost 11%.  Rice in 1984 was at 12.7%, with 291 guys on 1B).

The typical player has a guy on 1B almost one-third of his PAs.  So, give him 600 PA, he has a guy on 1B 200 times, of which 20 will be GIDP.  If Vidro is even more predisposed, maybe he&#039;ll get it up to 13-15%, and he&#039;ll be chasing 30.

I prefer Dave&#039;s more complete analysis.

The win cost of a GIDP is around an extra 0.04-0.05 wins per GIDP above average.  So, if Vidro hits 10 more GIDP than average, we&#039;re talking about 0.5 wins.  In short, Vidro+Ichiro = average.  You&#039;ve completely negated the speed effect of Ichiro by having Vidro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just taking a look at their b-r.com pages:</p>
<p>Vidro gets a GIDP 10% of the time there&#8217;s a guy on 1B (including 2 outs), and Ichiro is 4-5%.  (The average is around 7 or 8%, and Jim Rice is almost 11%.  Rice in 1984 was at 12.7%, with 291 guys on 1B).</p>
<p>The typical player has a guy on 1B almost one-third of his PAs.  So, give him 600 PA, he has a guy on 1B 200 times, of which 20 will be GIDP.  If Vidro is even more predisposed, maybe he&#8217;ll get it up to 13-15%, and he&#8217;ll be chasing 30.</p>
<p>I prefer Dave&#8217;s more complete analysis.</p>
<p>The win cost of a GIDP is around an extra 0.04-0.05 wins per GIDP above average.  So, if Vidro hits 10 more GIDP than average, we&#8217;re talking about 0.5 wins.  In short, Vidro+Ichiro = average.  You&#8217;ve completely negated the speed effect of Ichiro by having Vidro.</p>
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		<title>By: Gomez</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/04/03/jim-rice-beware/comment-page-2/#comment-169986</link>
		<dc:creator>Gomez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 19:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>42.  Why, Corco, will MLB eventually allow him to &#039;run&#039; the bases with a Segway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>42.  Why, Corco, will MLB eventually allow him to &#8216;run&#8217; the bases with a Segway?</p>
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		<title>By: Deanna</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/04/03/jim-rice-beware/comment-page-2/#comment-169948</link>
		<dc:creator>Deanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 09:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, the other new Jose uses a particular at-bat song, which made me think &quot;In-a-Gadda-da-Vidro&quot;.

Shame it&#039;s too long to be a nickname, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, the other new Jose uses a particular at-bat song, which made me think &#8220;In-a-Gadda-da-Vidro&#8221;.</p>
<p>Shame it&#8217;s too long to be a nickname, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Edgar For Pres</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/04/03/jim-rice-beware/comment-page-2/#comment-169946</link>
		<dc:creator>Edgar For Pres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 09:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty sure Edgar could outrun Vidro with just one hamstring.  Could you imagine if Vidro was still playing 2B?  Hopefully we never see that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure Edgar could outrun Vidro with just one hamstring.  Could you imagine if Vidro was still playing 2B?  Hopefully we never see that.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/04/03/jim-rice-beware/comment-page-2/#comment-169699</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 04:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh no, not again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh no, not again.</p>
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		<title>By: davepaisley</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/04/03/jim-rice-beware/comment-page-1/#comment-169694</link>
		<dc:creator>davepaisley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 04:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;How many of these 56 opportunities will be booted?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If he hits them all to Bobby Crosby, well, the universe may just implode. Maybe it will finally spawn the invention of the Improbability Drive... if we see a whale fall onto Safeco Field from 30,000 ft we&#039;ll know it happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>How many of these 56 opportunities will be booted?</p></blockquote>
<p>If he hits them all to Bobby Crosby, well, the universe may just implode. Maybe it will finally spawn the invention of the Improbability Drive&#8230; if we see a whale fall onto Safeco Field from 30,000 ft we&#8217;ll know it happened.</p>
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		<title>By: David J. Corcoran I</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/04/03/jim-rice-beware/comment-page-1/#comment-169673</link>
		<dc:creator>David J. Corcoran I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 03:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d put Beltre at 3, Johjima at 2, and Vidro at 7. But that&#039;s just me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d put Beltre at 3, Johjima at 2, and Vidro at 7. But that&#8217;s just me.</p>
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		<title>By: go_cougs</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/04/03/jim-rice-beware/comment-page-1/#comment-169671</link>
		<dc:creator>go_cougs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 03:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guillen should definately hit #3 against the Angels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guillen should definately hit #3 against the Angels.</p>
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		<title>By: CouchGM</title>
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		<dc:creator>CouchGM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 03:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#26:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Where is the right spot in the order for Vidro (if he is going to play every day..ugh)? And who is the #3? Ibanez? Personally, I would like to see Beltre hit 3rd.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I think the Jose&#039;s (Guillen and Vidro) should switch #3 and #6.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#26:</p>
<blockquote><p>Where is the right spot in the order for Vidro (if he is going to play every day..ugh)? And who is the #3? Ibanez? Personally, I would like to see Beltre hit 3rd.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think the Jose&#8217;s (Guillen and Vidro) should switch #3 and #6.</p>
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		<title>By: CouchGM</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/04/03/jim-rice-beware/comment-page-1/#comment-169669</link>
		<dc:creator>CouchGM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 03:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You didn&#039;t include the variable of fielding pct of AL opponents and more specifically AL West opponents. How many of these 56 opportunities will be booted?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You didn&#8217;t include the variable of fielding pct of AL opponents and more specifically AL West opponents. How many of these 56 opportunities will be booted?</p>
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