Game 10, Twins at Mariners

Dave · April 18, 2007 at 6:47 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Happy Felix day! Carlos Silva represents the opposition tonight.

Autopilot Hargrove uses the same line-up as always. Broussard in for Guillen in right field. If you’re ever going to put Broussard out there, do it with Felix on the mound, because he’s not going to get many chances.

So, Felix Day #3. The last two starts, I had a feeling we were going to see something special. Tonight – I’m kind of worried, to be honest. Not in a “I think he’s going to get shelled” kind of way, but in a “he’s going to give up runs eventually” kind of way. And, if Felix has a weakness, its still left-handed hitters, and the Twins have a couple of the best in Mauer and Morneau. It’s not hard to turn on a fastball and pull it down the right field line at Safeco, so if Felix gives up a home run and raises his ERA all the way to 0.74 or something, I won’t be shocked.

Of course, I also won’t be shocked if he strikes out all 27 guys he faces. He’s Felix. Anything’s possible. Either way, Felix Day is appointment TV, and you couldn’t pry me away from this game with an army of chariots and swarms of locusts. I love Felix Day.

Comments

230 Responses to “Game 10, Twins at Mariners”

  1. 88fingerslukee on April 18th, 2007 6:50 pm

    honestly? I love Felix. But I think swarms of locusts would do it.

  2. Tek Jansen on April 18th, 2007 6:52 pm

    Since I am eternally troubled by Grover’s autopilot tendencies, let me remark here that tonight’s game might have been a decent opportunity to start Broussard and get him a series of ABs. He could replace either Guillen or Sexson in the lineup. I assume that since both those regulars bat righty, they will be in tomorrow afternoon’s game against Santana, a game in which Broussard is guaranteed not to start. Broussard would get some ABs and Guillen or Sexson would get a night off before facing Santana in a day game. Am I wrong?

  3. carcinogen on April 18th, 2007 6:52 pm

    #1 or threats by Jack Bauer…b/c I think he backs those up.

  4. 88fingerslukee on April 18th, 2007 6:53 pm

    yeah, Jack makes you pay

  5. Goose on April 18th, 2007 7:03 pm

    Check out the White Sox-Rangers game.

  6. kentroyals5 on April 18th, 2007 7:03 pm

    I wish there was a “Happy Al Martin Day”…that’d be so much better than “Happy Felix day”

  7. kentroyals5 on April 18th, 2007 7:03 pm

    5 – Dave Sims will mention it 15 times in the first inning of our game

  8. gag harbor on April 18th, 2007 7:04 pm

    Chris Tillman is pretty good at pitching

  9. Dave on April 18th, 2007 7:06 pm

    Yea, Tillman is off to a fantastic start for the T’Rats. The Midwest League is still a very pitcher friendly league, especially in April, but a teenager who is missing that many bats in a full season league? That’s a good prospect.

  10. gag harbor on April 18th, 2007 7:07 pm

    and Tui got another double tonight

  11. kentroyals5 on April 18th, 2007 7:07 pm

    9- What are his stats thus far?

  12. Dylan on April 18th, 2007 7:08 pm

    Dave, what do you think about Myers going to the pen? Would the Phillies take a stud closer in return? Whose last name is four letters long? And ends with a Z?

  13. Dave on April 18th, 2007 7:09 pm

    Tillman tossed 5 2/3 innings tonight, giving up 5 hits, 1 R, 0 BB, and 8 Ks. He’s got 15/1 K/BB rate in 9 2/3 innings through two starts.

  14. Paul B on April 18th, 2007 7:09 pm

    Broussard is starting in right, I assume that Guillen’s hand is hurting.

  15. Dave on April 18th, 2007 7:09 pm

    Dave, what do you think about Myers going to the pen? Would the Phillies take a stud closer in return? Whose last name is four letters long? And ends with a Z?

    It’s a horrible idea, and it’s temporary. He’ll be back in the rotation in a month or two. They won’t trade him.

  16. Tek Jansen on April 18th, 2007 7:10 pm

    Grover must have read my post. Broussard starts for Guillen in RF

  17. Dylan on April 18th, 2007 7:10 pm

    Broussard is starting.

  18. Dylan on April 18th, 2007 7:11 pm

    15

    Pretty much what I was thinking. A guy can dream though.

  19. kentroyals5 on April 18th, 2007 7:12 pm

    Guillen was in the lineup initially…so late swap out I guess.

  20. _David_ on April 18th, 2007 7:13 pm

    Bue98379234qp#(*$&hrle’s got a no-no through 8.

  21. apunetid on April 18th, 2007 7:16 pm

    I don’t know what game to watch!

  22. Dave on April 18th, 2007 7:16 pm

    Felix going for the K against Castillo – good thinking, as this guy isn’t the kind of guy you want to pitch to contact to.

  23. Dave on April 18th, 2007 7:17 pm

    We give Ibanez a lot of crap for his defense, but that’s a nice play.

  24. thebig708 on April 18th, 2007 7:19 pm

    Does anyone know how long we have Felix locked up for? (Until we get to watch the Yankees buy him)

  25. Dave on April 18th, 2007 7:19 pm

    A 1-2 fastball? Boo.

  26. Spanky on April 18th, 2007 7:19 pm

    Buehrle no-hit final

  27. Slica on April 18th, 2007 7:20 pm

    No hitter by Mark Buerle…nice 1 walk.

  28. mariners23 on April 18th, 2007 7:20 pm

    Isnt it weird that if Felix goes perfect the rest of the way he still did worse then his last outing.

  29. MarinerDan on April 18th, 2007 7:20 pm

    In my best Hawk: He gone! Nicely done by Mark Buehrle.

  30. kentroyals5 on April 18th, 2007 7:20 pm

    mama said there will be days like this…

  31. matthew on April 18th, 2007 7:21 pm

    They should only pitch Felix every 9 days.

  32. Dave on April 18th, 2007 7:22 pm

    A walk isn’t that bad there, really. Cuddyer’s a righty, there’s a force at any base, and the double play is still a big possibility. I’m fine with him not throwing Mauer anything he could whack.

  33. Dave on April 18th, 2007 7:22 pm

    Well, that sucked.

  34. kentroyals5 on April 18th, 2007 7:24 pm

    Weaver is a clubhouse cancer…rubbing off on Felix

  35. Spanky on April 18th, 2007 7:24 pm

    So…I don’t have video going…does Felix just not look sharp? Reading too many clippings this past week? Tired? What’s the deal?

  36. Phoenician Todd on April 18th, 2007 7:24 pm

    This is like last year’s Felix, not able to throw a lot of strikes

  37. Dave on April 18th, 2007 7:24 pm

    Another bad pitch selection – 2 strikes to Cuddyer with a man on third and nobody out, the two seamer is a contact pitch. Throw something to get the K.

  38. kentroyals5 on April 18th, 2007 7:25 pm

    Zambrano got throttled today…Oswalt got smashed his last time out..Webb looks terrible..Felix just wants to pitch like an ace this week :)

  39. kentroyals5 on April 18th, 2007 7:25 pm

    dear god

  40. Dave on April 18th, 2007 7:25 pm

    Nah, this isn’t last year’s Felix – his command has been okay. He’s just throwing too many fastballs in 2 strike counts right now. He had Castillo, Tyner, and Cuddyer all one pitch away from a K and didn’t finish them off.

  41. MarinerDan on April 18th, 2007 7:26 pm

    His command is off. He’s thrown more missed-location pitches in the first inning than in his first two starts. And here comes the trainer. Ugh!

  42. Phoenician Todd on April 18th, 2007 7:26 pm

    oh crap

  43. planB on April 18th, 2007 7:26 pm

    Woah, what?

  44. Dylan on April 18th, 2007 7:26 pm

    good god no

  45. Paul B on April 18th, 2007 7:26 pm

    Something was wrong, that’s for sure.

  46. apunetid on April 18th, 2007 7:26 pm

    Not good…

  47. Goose on April 18th, 2007 7:26 pm

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

  48. tibbar on April 18th, 2007 7:27 pm

    NOOOOO!!!! Not the doc! Great Scott I hope it is minor!

  49. Dave on April 18th, 2007 7:27 pm

    Worst. Felix. Day. Ever.

  50. Spanky on April 18th, 2007 7:29 pm

    Woods in?!?!?! Arm tighten up? Pull a muscle? Tripped and fell?

  51. zzyzx on April 18th, 2007 7:30 pm

    NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!

  52. go_cougs on April 18th, 2007 7:31 pm

    Unhappy Felix Day

  53. robbbbbb on April 18th, 2007 7:31 pm

    Ohshitohshitohshitohshit.

    That’s all that’s running through my head right now.

  54. patl on April 18th, 2007 7:32 pm

    USSM is crashing… tens of thousands of us are jumping on to say “oh &(&$*, please God no injury”.

  55. carcinogen on April 18th, 2007 7:32 pm

    shoot me in the f***ing head!

  56. go_cougs on April 18th, 2007 7:35 pm

    Ahh Ichiro, something right and constant in this world

  57. rexpresto on April 18th, 2007 7:44 pm

    Watching online from Oakland…Good Lord…Having to watch Jeff Weaver throw hams toward home plate last night…Now this. Off to the liquor cabinet.

  58. Josh on April 18th, 2007 7:46 pm

    GIDP

  59. eponymous coward on April 18th, 2007 7:46 pm

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  60. Paul B on April 18th, 2007 7:48 pm

    Vidro does what he excels at.

  61. planB on April 18th, 2007 7:50 pm

    Seems like a lot of Twins are getting on base with two-strike counts…

  62. MedicineHat on April 18th, 2007 7:52 pm

    I’m calling Back Spasms. His velocity was fine. He didn’t shake his arm. He bent over to try to stretch his back. I bet it’s just a tightness on is back or back spasms

  63. Lauren, token chick on April 18th, 2007 7:53 pm

    Geez.

    Seriously, though. First inning, Ichiro was like “fuck this shit. This is ending RIGHT (catch one) HERE (catch two).” One tiny silver lining.

    Guh.

  64. tibbar on April 18th, 2007 7:56 pm

    Wow this has turned ugly quick.

  65. PhilKenSebben on April 18th, 2007 7:57 pm

    in before server meltdown.

  66. planB on April 18th, 2007 7:58 pm

    USSM authors, how do you feel about rooting for short-term failure in the interest of long-term success? Any difference between large-scale (losing season, new management) and small-scale (Willie Bloomquist does poorly, is demoted/etc)?

  67. thewyrm on April 18th, 2007 7:58 pm

    I am sitting on an oil rig in the middle of Prufhoe Bay Alaska. I have been dreaming of Felix all night. I usually make it to my desk to start my shift when the second inning starts. The casual “Oh by the way, Felix left with an injury!” from Rizzs nearly stopped my heart.

  68. Spanky on April 18th, 2007 7:59 pm

    Anyone thinking what I’m thinking…last game, Grover should have taken Felix out for the 9th??? No hitter was done. He was at or over 100 pitches. Let’s not push it. Bring in Putz to close. Keep Felix fresh for the next start and for the rest of the season.

    I know he was working on plenty of rest…but he wouldn’t be for game 3.

  69. Arkinese on April 18th, 2007 8:00 pm

    63 Lauren, I complete agreely with your take on Ichiro’s thought process! Is Blowers being accurate talking about the legs being the source of the problem?

  70. planB on April 18th, 2007 8:01 pm

    (the moment I clicked, I realized limiting the scope of the question was silly… interested in any opinions)

  71. thebig708 on April 18th, 2007 8:03 pm

    Good season guys… see ya next year

  72. Slica on April 18th, 2007 8:03 pm

    Oh man…if the worst case scenerio hits, our team might suck the rest of the year AND Hargrove/Bavasi/Lincoln get pity votes to stay because of the injury.

  73. Sports on a Schtick on April 18th, 2007 8:03 pm

    I woke up just now to this nightmare.

  74. Paul B on April 18th, 2007 8:04 pm

    tightness in right elbow. Will be evaluated tomorrow.

  75. Lauren, token chick on April 18th, 2007 8:05 pm

    For those not watching or listening, they just said Felix left due to “tightness in the right elbow.”

  76. robbbbbb on April 18th, 2007 8:05 pm

    Tightness of the right elbow, they’re saying on the TV. That’s worrisome.

  77. BayAreaFan on April 18th, 2007 8:07 pm

    Right elbow tightness. This is like a bad horror moive.

  78. Tek Jansen on April 18th, 2007 8:07 pm

    From the past year and a half, I have seen no evidence that Felix was abused by Grover in terms of innings or pitch counts.

    Rizzs and Sims are reporting that Felix had “tightness in the elbow.” Since they did not say which elbow, I will hold onto a sliver of hope that maybe, just maybe, it was his left elbow that was bothering him tonight.

  79. Paul B on April 18th, 2007 8:08 pm

    Now that we know it was his elbow, and not his legs, I agree with #68.

    Cold night, a complete game that early in the season… I said that in the game thread that night, once the no hitter was gone.

  80. zzyzx on April 18th, 2007 8:09 pm

    Someone want to talk me off of the ledge?

  81. BayAreaFan on April 18th, 2007 8:10 pm

    There are going to be a lot of cranky people in Seattle tomorrow. I have a feeling many will not be sleeping well tonight.

  82. Jar on April 18th, 2007 8:13 pm

    Just tuned in, what the crap happened to Felix!?!?!

  83. BayAreaFan on April 18th, 2007 8:17 pm

    Hargrove haters give it a rest. The King is facing the biggest medical appointment of his career tomorrow and all you guys can think about is how to spin it to place blame on Hargrove.

  84. Jar on April 18th, 2007 8:19 pm

    Read it. This sucks.

  85. Paul B on April 18th, 2007 8:20 pm

    Hargrove doesn’t need any spin to make him look bad, he’s very capable in that regard.

  86. DMZ on April 18th, 2007 8:22 pm

    And our server load drops under 10 for the first time since the first inning.

  87. Dylan on April 18th, 2007 8:24 pm

    83

    Wholeheartedly agree.

  88. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 8:25 pm

    As much as I know Grover is an id, I don’t think you should have to take a guy out pitching a one hitter into the ninth. His pitch count wasn’t THAT high. So I think blaming anyone on this other than bad dumb luck is pointless.

  89. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 8:26 pm

    Have we even got an effin’ guy to third yet?

    I guess we missed having those home series where we don’t have a lead the entire time. Boy are those fun…ugh

  90. tibbar on April 18th, 2007 8:31 pm

    This game needs an NC-17 rating.

  91. BayAreaFan on April 18th, 2007 8:36 pm

    If Felix must miss some time, who do you want to see as his replacement? Morrow or Baek?

  92. yellowmoth on April 18th, 2007 8:37 pm

    Just got home from school. Dear God.

  93. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 8:38 pm

    Kenji pops up ON THE FIRST PITCH after another lead off hit. I guess our never ending quest to get a guy to third may be thwarted…AGAIN

  94. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 8:41 pm

    As if on cue, Rodriguez makes his now routine gold glove play…seemingly with ease

    We couldn’t even get a lead off hit to second before the inning ended

  95. thewyrm on April 18th, 2007 8:44 pm

    Without Felix our season is shot anyway. May as well let Morrow take his spot.

  96. 88fingerslukee on April 18th, 2007 8:45 pm

    Can we get Gil Meche back?

  97. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 8:48 pm

    Can we get some runs (off of the guy who gave up more hr’s than anyone in the AL)?

  98. Josh on April 18th, 2007 8:48 pm

    Hargrove’s fault?

    Seriously, hasn’t he done enough wrong that we don’t need to make up phantoms?

  99. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 8:48 pm

    ANOTHER lead off hit.

    Maybe my expectations have been too high. Lets just root for him to get to SECOND before the inning ends.

  100. Spanky on April 18th, 2007 8:49 pm

    #88: Yes, there is a lot of bad dumb luck in baseball and I am not blaming Hargrove. But there is also such a thing as tempting fate. All I’m asking is “Why risk it?”

    As was mentioned, it’s early in a very long season. The pen needs the work because of the days off. Why risk pushing Felix this early. He could end up with a “tight elbow” or have a tired arm his next start.

  101. Choska on April 18th, 2007 8:50 pm

    From today’s ESPN article:

    “Seattle management has taken pains to ease Hernandez’s transition from phenom to manhood. The Mariners monitored his pitch counts and innings last season, and prevailed upon him to refrain from playing winter ball in Venezuela the past two years. Manager Mike Hargrove limited Hernandez to 191 innings and 3,067 total pitches last year (25th most among AL starters). . . Hernandez has a strong support staff around him. Rick Griffin, one of baseball’s most diligent trainers, is around to whisper encouragement in his ear on days when he needs a little push.”

    I don’t see how we can blame anyone for this. Hard to imagine that the team could have taken more precautions. Let’s just pray that he has just a little strain that will heal with rest. Even with that, the right move would be to bring him back very slowly.

    God, I hate loving a sport that depends on players (pitchers) who get hurt so easily and often. Pitchers are like beautiful ships that look great at port. Unfortunately, being in port is not what ships are built for. It just seems like Mariner pitchers in particular are at risk when they go out to sea.

    Everyone who said his mechanics made him an injury waiting to happen sure seem smart right now.

  102. apunetid on April 18th, 2007 8:53 pm

    IBB!?!

  103. Josh on April 18th, 2007 8:54 pm

    As was mentioned, it’s early in a very long season. The pen needs the work because of the days off. Why risk pushing Felix this early. He could end up with a “tight elbow” or have a tired arm his next start.

    He’s also had something such as, I think, 8 days rest and 6 days rest in between starts. What if not getting enough (or regular) game action contributed to his body not physically responding well tonight? It’s at least as likely as that is.

  104. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 8:54 pm

    Woo-hoo!

    We got a guy to third! We might even score before this game is over!!

  105. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 8:56 pm

    Looks like that meeting at the mound was tremendously productive…

    FOR US!

  106. Lauren, token chick on April 18th, 2007 8:56 pm

    Ooh! Runs!!

    It’s like the first time in spring when that light-up ball thing in the sky comes out.

  107. BayAreaFan on April 18th, 2007 8:56 pm

    OK, I think I just caught on. Sims says some pretty ridiculous things. He just commented that they “green light” their 3-hole hitter. It was 3 and 1.

    Sexson, got it.

  108. PhilKenSebben on April 18th, 2007 8:57 pm

    FUNK BLAAAAAAAAAST!!

  109. Jar on April 18th, 2007 8:57 pm

    Do it for the King!

  110. Josh on April 18th, 2007 8:58 pm

    It just seems like Mariner pitchers in particular are at risk when they go out to sea.

    *cough* :(

  111. SexsonPower on April 18th, 2007 8:58 pm

    FUNK BLAST!!!

  112. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 8:59 pm

    107

    I’ve noticed Simms says some pretty “interesting” things, lol

    I especially liked this one: “The Mariners have a runner on second for the first time today. Its also the first time they had more than one runner on at the same time.”

    Uh…like, yeah.

  113. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 9:04 pm

    OUTSTANDING job by Gorgeous George

  114. BayAreaFan on April 18th, 2007 9:08 pm

    Right back at them.

  115. Josh on April 18th, 2007 9:08 pm

    Funny – a called strike on Gameday that was placed completely out of the strike zone. Usually they put it a few pixels in the zone even if it was half a foot outside, as long as the ump calls it a strike.

  116. thenatural on April 18th, 2007 9:09 pm

    yes sir… here we go… denny reyes

  117. CSG on April 18th, 2007 9:10 pm

    Well, that was earliest I’ve ever left a game (End of the 2nd Inning). That was thoroughly depressing. Good thing I’ve got a bottle of rye to comfort me.

  118. Lauren, token chick on April 18th, 2007 9:10 pm

    Hey! Also on the positive side, if Felix is out for a while, that’s just more nights available for fine entertainment at the Emerald Queen Casino.

  119. Josh on April 18th, 2007 9:11 pm

    Reminds me of Joe Table.

  120. tibbar on April 18th, 2007 9:11 pm

    Let’s hope it is rally time again. Maybe I should work on my son’s PC again. They scored 3 runs last time I did that.

  121. apunetid on April 18th, 2007 9:13 pm

    Ichiro – good stuff.

  122. tibbar on April 18th, 2007 9:13 pm

    Ducks are on the pond. Another base hit will be nice.

  123. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 9:14 pm

    ABSOLUTELY GOTTA get at least one run on this at bat by Adrian

  124. apunetid on April 18th, 2007 9:14 pm

    Sexson’s coming up – maybe if the bases are still loaded…

  125. thewyrm on April 18th, 2007 9:15 pm

    What are the odds Beltre strikes out and Vidro hits a grounder?

  126. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 9:17 pm

    Most important at bat of the game and he swings at garbage

  127. tibbar on April 18th, 2007 9:18 pm

    Rats Beltre went fishing again for the low and outside pitch.

  128. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 9:18 pm

    What are the odds that Beltre could’ve been ahead in the count too if he had any brains in pitch selection?

  129. kmsandrbs on April 18th, 2007 9:19 pm

    Anyone else rooting for Vidro to take a walk?

  130. Jar on April 18th, 2007 9:19 pm

    YES

  131. Jar on April 18th, 2007 9:19 pm

    DAMN

  132. thewyrm on April 18th, 2007 9:20 pm

    Well it wasn’t a grounder, so I guess I’m only half psychic.

  133. tibbar on April 18th, 2007 9:20 pm

    Man that was a waste. At least Turbo got good wood on it.

  134. Josh on April 18th, 2007 9:20 pm

    Was a good swing. Not sure about letting Vidro swing until he has two strikes, though.

  135. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 9:23 pm

    Its almost like the Twins are thinking, “Hey we got five runs after two innings…yeah that should be enough to beat these guys.”

    Unfortunately, last inning, typical as it was for us, probably proves that line of thinking correct.

  136. BayAreaFan on April 18th, 2007 9:25 pm

    134 You let your # 3 hitter swing at any count with risp, especially when he is a veteran with 6 hits in the past 3 games. Vidro is stinging the ball. He is going to be OK this year.

  137. Phoenician Todd on April 18th, 2007 9:26 pm

    This just completely ruined my night, I was all excited for Felix Day and WHAMMO! I thought Richies HR (where did this funk blast thing come from) would perk me up, but no.

    good thoughts for felix!!

  138. Josh on April 18th, 2007 9:27 pm

    Sorry for not adding the [sarcasm] tag.

  139. tibbar on April 18th, 2007 9:28 pm

    I don’t like the idea of handcuffing hitters by making them wait till they have strikes on them to be able to swing. Unless the pitcher has not been able to throw in the strike zone for the last few batters.

  140. Josh on April 18th, 2007 9:28 pm

    Minutes before Beltre K’s w/ bases loaded, this is posted.

  141. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 9:30 pm

    140

    I don’t know whether to “lol” or cry on my keyboard. That headline is ironic though as he went up hacking without the slightest clue.

  142. _David_ on April 18th, 2007 9:34 pm

    It’s no consolation, but in terms of competing in the west, the Angels offense is very thin and couldn’t afford to lose any depth, and Howie Kendrick has a broken finger. Injuries are bad, and I shouldn’t be celebrating the injury of a player, but I’m not feeling nice right now.

  143. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 9:34 pm

    Heaven effin’ forbid we DON’T end an inning with a screamin’ line drive which is naturally right at someone.

    Adrian’s criminal at bat is sorta hurting us right now.

  144. thewyrm on April 18th, 2007 9:39 pm

    Y’all think we will ever get to a point where we can look back at Hargrove and Bavasi’s time here and laugh? Or will we hate them with a burning firey passion for the rest of our natural lives?

  145. Josh on April 18th, 2007 9:42 pm

    Not exactly what you would expect on a Felix night: 7 GO, 18 FO, 2 K.

  146. tibbar on April 18th, 2007 9:43 pm

    I think the latter will be the case with Hargrove. But a mixed bag with Bavasi. But I agree the whole active management needs to be cleaned out. It is obvious the current mind set has not been working.

    But in the mean time lets get the rally caps on and hope for some fireworks in the M’s favour.

  147. marbledog on April 18th, 2007 9:44 pm

    Don’t worry, Nathan will blow the save.

  148. colm on April 18th, 2007 9:44 pm

    happens all the time, dunnit?

  149. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 9:45 pm

    147

    Yeah, right after Yubet walks

  150. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 9:46 pm

    DOH!

    Well, we’ll take ANOTHER lead off hit

  151. apunetid on April 18th, 2007 9:46 pm

    Yubet!

  152. CSG on April 18th, 2007 9:46 pm

    Great at-bat by Betancourt

  153. daimajin on April 18th, 2007 9:47 pm

    How about Mateo 2-0?

  154. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 9:47 pm

    I’d settle for a game tying two run dinger by Ichiro

  155. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 9:49 pm

    What the &^## was that?

    I guess with Beltre on deck…nah, not even that is a worthy excuse.

    Nice managing Grover…sigh

  156. Phoenician Todd on April 18th, 2007 9:50 pm

    Wow, why not take 3-0?

  157. thewyrm on April 18th, 2007 9:50 pm

    You have GOT to be kidding me.

  158. BayAreaFan on April 18th, 2007 9:51 pm

    What was that? Ichiro never takes pitches but works the count to 3-0 then swings. I was just about to compliment him on a new approach.

  159. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 9:51 pm

    Maybe Grover woke up from his nap right before that pitch and mistook Ichiro for Sexson. I mean they look so much alike.

  160. TBone on April 18th, 2007 9:51 pm

    Listening on the radio, was that 3-0 pitch at all worth swinging at? Seems ridiculous.

  161. Morgan on April 18th, 2007 9:51 pm

    Stay alive Adrian. Now would be a good time to not suck nuts

  162. Morgan on April 18th, 2007 9:52 pm

    YES

  163. apunetid on April 18th, 2007 9:53 pm

    Mariners live!

  164. Norm Charlton Fan Club on April 18th, 2007 9:53 pm

    Turbo game winning HR???

  165. thewyrm on April 18th, 2007 9:53 pm

    come on Turbo!!!!!!!!

  166. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 9:53 pm

    A gw hr would be most cuddly right now

  167. daimajin on April 18th, 2007 9:53 pm

    tuned in for the king and now our only hope is Turbo….

  168. BayAreaFan on April 18th, 2007 9:53 pm

    Actually, I think Ichiro was taking it upon himself to do the damage. I change my mind. It shows he wants to be a leader. I actually like it a lot.

  169. tibbar on April 18th, 2007 9:53 pm

    wow lets hope the luck holds for a couple of runs.

  170. Morgan on April 18th, 2007 9:54 pm

    I call Vidro goes yard for game

  171. Dave in Palo Alto on April 18th, 2007 9:55 pm

    I call Vidro goes dirt.

  172. argh on April 18th, 2007 9:55 pm

    One thng about Vidro — he’s got an eye even with the game on the lne.

  173. Jar on April 18th, 2007 9:55 pm

    I Vidro wins this I will hold off on making fun of him for a week.

  174. marbledog on April 18th, 2007 9:56 pm

    ACCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!

  175. argh on April 18th, 2007 9:56 pm

    Too bad the same can’t be said about the 3rd base coach for the Mariners.

  176. Morgan on April 18th, 2007 9:56 pm

    WHAT?

  177. Norm Charlton Fan Club on April 18th, 2007 9:56 pm

    Noooooo

  178. BayAreaFan on April 18th, 2007 9:56 pm

    Viiiiiiiiiiiidro! Haters shut up!

  179. Josh on April 18th, 2007 9:56 pm

    Ichiro… nevermind.

  180. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 9:56 pm

    Beltre prevents ANOTHER run.

    STUPID effin’ baseball…again…sigh

    For those not watching:

    NO, it wasn’t even close

  181. thewyrm on April 18th, 2007 9:57 pm

    Ugh

  182. CSG on April 18th, 2007 9:57 pm

    What the fuck was that?

  183. tibbar on April 18th, 2007 9:57 pm

    YES YES NO NO NO AHHHH!!!

    Man talk about giving it then taking it right back.

  184. Jar on April 18th, 2007 9:57 pm

    Not even close! BELTRE! Geeze!

  185. Josh on April 18th, 2007 10:03 pm

    I doubt Beltre decided on his own without any assistance. Lopez was waiving him in. 3B coach likely was too. If not, then yeah, Boo Beltre.

    Yay for 2nd place!

  186. kentroyals5 on April 18th, 2007 10:03 pm

    This type of game makes me hate baseball…on top of Felix going down the M’s act like they know how to play baseball and you get interested…then they kick you when you are down…Baseball is a cruel game..might need to take a few off. so depressing

  187. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 10:04 pm

    180

    Well, maybe not Beltre, but the idiot who waived him in. Sorta bad when its one of your ONLY jobs on the team as a base coach.

  188. argh on April 18th, 2007 10:05 pm

    Not to belabor the obvious, but Beltre had nothing to do with this HUA call.

  189. Dylan on April 18th, 2007 10:05 pm

    How in the world was that Beltre’s fault? If the third base coach waves you in, you put your head down and run.

  190. daimajin on April 18th, 2007 10:06 pm

    Would Ichiro have made it?

  191. cliff29 on April 18th, 2007 10:06 pm

    That ending for those (like me) using Gameday… Worst. Feeling. Ever.

  192. CSG on April 18th, 2007 10:06 pm

    I have a feeling this may be a taxing season on my liver…

  193. Goob on April 18th, 2007 10:06 pm

    Jesus Christ, what an appropriate ending to today’s King Felix Day.

  194. BayAreaFan on April 18th, 2007 10:07 pm

    That ending sums up the night perfectly – Overwhelming anticipation followed by overwhelming disappointment.

  195. Tom on April 18th, 2007 10:08 pm

    One again, we see the sheer brilliance of the Mariners coaching staff. . .

    Adrian Beltre is out by 10 feet and yet Carlos Garcia still sends him knowing Ibanez is on deck so close to getting a big hit.

    Why the hell does it need to be this way?!?! Just please tell me, why did we have to keep this ENTIRE coaching staff?

    Is it because we went from 69 wins to 78? Oh wow, lets throw a big parade about that.

    Thanks Mr. Lincoln and Mr. Armstrong, I guess as long as the Mariners made a profit last year you could still consider that progress, right?

    Give me a break.

    Just please fire some of the more incompetent coaches on this staff now and save us the grief.

  196. CSG on April 18th, 2007 10:09 pm

    #190

    Ichiro might have scored…I have a feeling that part of the reason he was thrown out by so far was that one typically isn’t trying to score from first on a single, and he most likely slowed up going into third. The ball didn’t get that far away from the right fielder; it was really stupid to wave him in.

  197. Josh on April 18th, 2007 10:09 pm

    Would Ichiro have made it?

    Ichiro would have been on second base already…

  198. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 10:10 pm

    What’s almost funny (if it weren’t so pathetic) was hearing Cameron Wong on the post game show saying how much he loved Beltre trying to score and how great it was seeing Lopez waiving him in as he came home.

    Yeah Cam, that was truly wonderful. Even Krueger said you need to remember who’s up next.

    I truly think Cameron Wong spent far too much time with a “KICK ME” sign on his back in school.

  199. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 10:11 pm

    On the replay, the Twins didn’t even hurry on either throw in on that last crappy play.

  200. dw on April 18th, 2007 10:13 pm

    This might be the worst night in Mariners history.

  201. davepaisley on April 18th, 2007 10:14 pm

    Cameron Wong and Dave Sims are a match made in heaven…

    Bleah

  202. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 10:14 pm

    If you allow one baserunner since the second inning, you should be able to come back and win with THAT many lead off baserunners.

  203. CSG on April 18th, 2007 10:15 pm

    Yeah, the cutoff man seemed really surprised that Beltre was trying to score.

  204. kentroyals5 on April 18th, 2007 10:15 pm

    Anyone near McMinnville that wants to get drunk? Please

  205. thewyrm on April 18th, 2007 10:17 pm

    I would say the only way we can make Lincoln do something is to stop attending games, but I am terrified fan apathy may initiate an Ichiro trade. After Moyer last year, if Bavasi trades Ichiro I. . . It would be hard to keep cheering for this team.

  206. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 10:19 pm

    205

    Homestands like this make it seem hard enough as it is. (No matter how excited Wong gets)

    Maybe Angie Mantank will body slam him back in the studio for such stupid comments.

  207. Josh on April 18th, 2007 10:19 pm

    Nathan threw 24 pitches. If Ichiro and the 3B coach hadn’t handed two outs to the Twins, not only would we have tied and likely won the game, but Nathan would have probably been N/A tomorrow.

    Guess it doesn’t matter unless Washburn pitches his game of the season, though.

  208. kentroyals5 on April 18th, 2007 10:21 pm

    result of tonight..less fans…more beer sales

  209. Slippery Elmer on April 18th, 2007 10:21 pm

    Oh, come on. That was the best chance they had to score. Ibanez is struggling mightily. Would you rather have had him ground out with the tying run on third? Even if Beltre’d have scored, you’ve got the sucking hitters coming up in the 10th. I don’t fault Garcia one bit.

    That said, if you outhit a team by 100% you ought to win. Tough loss, but a heartening comeback led by the guys who should be leading such an insurrection.

    Boo on the Felix injury, though. 86 wins?–how about 56?

  210. Slippery Elmer on April 18th, 2007 10:23 pm

    (That was in response to #200.)

  211. Tom on April 18th, 2007 10:23 pm

    haha, I know why Cameron Wong was thrilled about Beltre coming home and Lopez and Garcia waving him in.

    It’s part of this “All Out, Every Day.”(TM) Mariners montra they are trying to suck us into.

    Gee, I don’t know Cameron. Whatever happened to SMART BASEBALL. Every Day. Because that’s what would’ve bleepin’ won this game for us tonight.

    Why don’t you take your stupidity to some city where there isn’t a Major League Baseball team, hmmmmmmmmmm?

  212. induced entropy on April 18th, 2007 10:23 pm

    I sent a player once in a freshman hs game against our bitter rivals in the last inning when the ball was being picked up by the left fielder. It was my 6th hitter and we had pushed a rally to tie it up, but my lineup had a drop off at that point.

    On the play, the left fielder made a perfect relay to the SS, who made a perfect relay to the 3b, who made a perfect throw to home plate, and got my player by about the same distance Beltre was gunned by.

    We lost the game, and I felt horrible. But I anticipated a level of performance indicitive of high school freshman slowing up the ball getting home, and I had the bottom of my lineup up.

    How a Major League 3b coach can make that bad a decision with debatably the team’s best hitter up and a closer who has been shakey both in the inning and the early season— egregious.

    I made a calculated risk. But at the pro level, with pro caliber players?

    That is a fireable offense.

    Grover and his 3b coach NEED to go now.

  213. Tom on April 18th, 2007 10:24 pm

    Oh, and I can only imagine what Hargrove has to say about this one. . .

    I would think of a quote he’d say, but I don’t want to because he’ll probably think of something stupider.

  214. Josh on April 18th, 2007 10:25 pm

    I’d rather have even a 10% chance of scoring Beltre than a 1% chance (hoping that one of the lobbed throws might be errant).

    Ichiro’s 3-0 pop up was worse, though. Nathan wasn’t showing very good control at all, and, really, unless you’re going to hit a HR there’s no reason to swing at that. If someone greenlighted him they should be fired. If he decided to do that…well, he’s going to be traded anyway if Felix is gone for any extended period of time.

  215. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 10:28 pm

    209

    That HAD to be sarcastic, right? Ibanez is a good hitter and is more than overdue this year. He hit the ball to deep center earlier. The Twins TOOK THEIR TIME on BOTH throws and still nailed him by a mile.

    It was a stupid decision that had a predictable outcome.

  216. induced entropy on April 18th, 2007 10:29 pm

    Slippery Elmer, I ask you to watch, the remainder of the year, to see if EVEN ONCE you see a player score from 1b on a SHALLOW single to RF without being in motion pre-pitch. Even with a small bobble. I’ll even allot you all of MLB. If you see it AT ANY LEVEL– hell, even in a high school game, I would be shocked.

    Remember Griffey’s amazing run home? That was from first. ON A DOUBLE!!!! And Beltre, as solid a player as he is, does not run nearly as well as Griff in 95.

    It was a horrible decision. Give Ibanez a chance. Look at Nathan’s stat line this year– he is struggling just as mightily as is Ibanez.

  217. kentroyals5 on April 18th, 2007 10:30 pm

    Oh…salt in the wound….Snelling scores the game winning run and is mobbed by his teammates :(

  218. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 10:31 pm

    216

    Agreed. The only time you even THINK about such a decision is if Willie is either running or hitting next, lol

  219. Josh on April 18th, 2007 10:34 pm

    Oh…salt in the wound….Snelling scores the game winning run and is mobbed by his teammates

    I feel good for him. At least he is getting to play now, and do well, I might add. Also, maybe the Nationals will win more than the Mariners this year. [Okay, not likely, though - but better odds than Beltre scoring from first on a single]

  220. Josh on April 18th, 2007 10:36 pm
  221. induced entropy on April 18th, 2007 10:37 pm

    My roommate and I watched it online. First game I’ve seen all year. I am seriously sick to my stomach, and the more I think about it, the madder I get.

    That may be the worst “3b Coaching Decision” you will see all year, perhaps all decade.

    Remember how Snelling went down early a few years back? How mad would everyone be right now if that led to a collision at home plate knocking Beltre out for the year? Hell, how pissed at Seattle would the Twins be if that collision hurt Mauer?

    There was more likely a career ending injury occuring by sending a runner there than an actual run scoring. Sickening. Heinous. Atrocious. There aren’t words enough to describe how poor a decision it was.

    I can’t watch this happen anymore. Living in Denver, I’m gonna have to let them go and follow the Rockies. Seriously. I just can’t take being a Mariner Fan, it is too heartbreaking. I want out. Please, God, give me the strength to walk away from an abusive relationship.

  222. Josh on April 18th, 2007 10:43 pm

    “The Mariners scored a run in the ninth on Jose Vidro’s single, but Beltre was thrown out trying to score the tying run on the same play.”

    Nice honest, descriptive account, eh?

  223. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 10:43 pm

    I guess we can eliminate Cam Wong as being your roomy

  224. kentroyals5 on April 18th, 2007 10:47 pm

    me and a buddy are going to Chicago to see the M’s play at Wrigley…and I just mentioned Felix in the same breathe as Prior and Wood :( Someone pinch me!

  225. Josh on April 18th, 2007 10:49 pm

    Non-team sources are a little better.

    “Jose Vidro hit a run-scoring single with two outs to make it 5-4. When Cuddyer overran the ball trying to pick it up, Beltre tried to score from first base. Castillo’s relay throw to Redmond easily beat Beltre home for the final out.”

    I didn’t watch any replays (too disgusted) but it looked at first view more like a bobble than over-running.

  226. colm on April 18th, 2007 11:39 pm

    Once Cuddyer flubbed the ball at first he seemed to resign himself to a run scoring, and gave up on making a tight play. He tossed the ball to Castillo.

    Castillo’s play back to the catcher looked like a little half-hearted lob from the wrist rather than some astonishing pivot-and-rocket.

    The Twins must have been stunned to see Beltre coming down the line. He was out by a fortnight.

    I honestly think that my team or six year old tee-ballers could have made that play.

    Well, maybe half the time.

  227. colm on April 18th, 2007 11:40 pm

    Oh crap I’ve accidentally adopted Steve Kelley’s signature style.

    Maybe nobody will notice.

    I’ll try to do it differently next time.

  228. Tom on April 19th, 2007 12:18 am

    Everybody read Geoff Baker’s blog now!!!!! Once again Hargrove’s stupidity is shown for all to see.

  229. HireHeyroldReynolds on April 19th, 2007 1:41 am

    “A gut feeling? Felix is going to be OK. But I have nothing to base it on.”

    “A good third base coach is not doing his job unless he is getting guys thrown out at home plate,”

    Thank you, Grover. These statements pretty much sum up the state of this franchise right now. Bad, bad vibes.

  230. Dave in Palo Alto on April 19th, 2007 11:15 am

    I’m not sure Hargrove is wrong in the abstract about third base coaches. The decision last night was wretched, but if you have a too timid 3B coach who never chooses the aggressive option, that’s a problem.

    However, the outs at home have to be close for the observation to be valid.

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