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		<title>By: Dave in Palo Alto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave in Palo Alto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure Hargrove is wrong in the abstract about third base coaches.  The decision last night was wretched, but if you have a too timid 3B coach who never chooses the aggressive option, that&#039;s a problem.

However, the outs at home have to be &lt;em&gt;close&lt;/em&gt; for the observation to be valid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure Hargrove is wrong in the abstract about third base coaches.  The decision last night was wretched, but if you have a too timid 3B coach who never chooses the aggressive option, that&#8217;s a problem.</p>
<p>However, the outs at home have to be <em>close</em> for the observation to be valid.</p>
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		<title>By: HireHeyroldReynolds</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/04/18/game-10-twins-at-mariners/comment-page-5/#comment-174457</link>
		<dc:creator>HireHeyroldReynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A gut feeling? Felix is going to be OK. But I have nothing to base it on.&quot;

&quot;A good third base coach is not doing his job unless he is getting guys thrown out at home plate,&quot;

Thank you, Grover.  These statements pretty much sum up the state of this franchise right now.  Bad, bad vibes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A gut feeling? Felix is going to be OK. But I have nothing to base it on.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;A good third base coach is not doing his job unless he is getting guys thrown out at home plate,&#8221;</p>
<p>Thank you, Grover.  These statements pretty much sum up the state of this franchise right now.  Bad, bad vibes.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everybody read Geoff Baker&#039;s blog now!!!!! Once again Hargrove&#039;s stupidity is shown for all to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everybody read Geoff Baker&#8217;s blog now!!!!! Once again Hargrove&#8217;s stupidity is shown for all to see.</p>
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		<title>By: colm</title>
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		<dc:creator>colm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh crap I&#039;ve accidentally adopted Steve Kelley&#039;s signature style.

Maybe nobody will notice.

I&#039;ll try to do it differently next time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh crap I&#8217;ve accidentally adopted Steve Kelley&#8217;s signature style.</p>
<p>Maybe nobody will notice.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll try to do it differently next time.</p>
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		<title>By: colm</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/04/18/game-10-twins-at-mariners/comment-page-5/#comment-174446</link>
		<dc:creator>colm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once Cuddyer flubbed the ball at first he seemed to resign himself to a run scoring, and gave up on making a tight play.  He tossed the ball to Castillo.  

Castillo&#039;s play back to the catcher looked like a little half-hearted lob from the wrist rather than some astonishing pivot-and-rocket.

The Twins must have been stunned to see Beltre coming down the line.  He was out by a fortnight.  

I honestly think that my team or six year old tee-ballers could have made that play.  

Well, maybe half the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once Cuddyer flubbed the ball at first he seemed to resign himself to a run scoring, and gave up on making a tight play.  He tossed the ball to Castillo.  </p>
<p>Castillo&#8217;s play back to the catcher looked like a little half-hearted lob from the wrist rather than some astonishing pivot-and-rocket.</p>
<p>The Twins must have been stunned to see Beltre coming down the line.  He was out by a fortnight.  </p>
<p>I honestly think that my team or six year old tee-ballers could have made that play.  </p>
<p>Well, maybe half the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 08:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Non-team &lt;a href=&quot;http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/recap?gid=270418112&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sources&lt;/a&gt; are a little better.

&quot;Jose Vidro hit a run-scoring single with two outs to make it 5-4. When Cuddyer overran the ball trying to pick it up, Beltre tried to score from first base. Castillo&#039;s relay throw to Redmond easily beat Beltre home for the final out.&quot;

I didn&#039;t watch any replays (too disgusted) but it looked at first view more like a bobble than over-running.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Non-team <a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/recap?gid=270418112" rel="nofollow">sources</a> are a little better.</p>
<p>&#8220;Jose Vidro hit a run-scoring single with two outs to make it 5-4. When Cuddyer overran the ball trying to pick it up, Beltre tried to score from first base. Castillo&#8217;s relay throw to Redmond easily beat Beltre home for the final out.&#8221;</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t watch any replays (too disgusted) but it looked at first view more like a bobble than over-running.</p>
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		<title>By: kentroyals5</title>
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		<dc:creator>kentroyals5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 08:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>me and a buddy are going to Chicago to see the M&#039;s play at Wrigley...and I just mentioned Felix in the same breathe as Prior and Wood :(  Someone pinch me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>me and a buddy are going to Chicago to see the M&#8217;s play at Wrigley&#8230;and I just mentioned Felix in the same breathe as Prior and Wood <img src='http://ussmariner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />   Someone pinch me!</p>
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		<title>By: IdahoInvader</title>
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		<dc:creator>IdahoInvader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 08:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess we can eliminate Cam Wong as being your roomy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess we can eliminate Cam Wong as being your roomy</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 08:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Mariners scored a run in the ninth on Jose Vidro&#039;s single, but Beltre was thrown out trying to score the tying run on the same play.&quot;

Nice honest, descriptive &lt;a href=&quot;http://seattle.mariners.mlb.com/news/gameday_recap.jsp?ymd=20070418&amp;content_id=1917158&amp;vkey=recap&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=sea&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;account&lt;/a&gt;, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Mariners scored a run in the ninth on Jose Vidro&#8217;s single, but Beltre was thrown out trying to score the tying run on the same play.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nice honest, descriptive <a href="http://seattle.mariners.mlb.com/news/gameday_recap.jsp?ymd=20070418&amp;content_id=1917158&amp;vkey=recap&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=sea" rel="nofollow">account</a>, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: induced entropy</title>
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		<dc:creator>induced entropy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 08:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My roommate and I watched it online.  First game I&#039;ve seen all year.  I am seriously sick to my stomach, and the more I think about it, the madder I get.  

That may be the worst &quot;3b Coaching Decision&quot; you will see all year, perhaps all decade.

Remember how Snelling went down early a few years back?  How mad would everyone be right now if that led to a collision at home plate knocking Beltre out for the year?  Hell, how pissed at Seattle would the Twins be if that collision hurt Mauer?  

There was more likely a career ending injury occuring by sending a runner there than an actual run scoring.  Sickening.  Heinous.  Atrocious.  There aren&#039;t words enough to describe how poor a decision it was.

I can&#039;t watch this happen anymore.  Living in Denver, I&#039;m gonna have to let them go and follow the Rockies.  Seriously.  I just can&#039;t take being a Mariner Fan, it is too heartbreaking.  I want out.  Please, God, give me the strength to walk away from an abusive relationship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My roommate and I watched it online.  First game I&#8217;ve seen all year.  I am seriously sick to my stomach, and the more I think about it, the madder I get.  </p>
<p>That may be the worst &#8220;3b Coaching Decision&#8221; you will see all year, perhaps all decade.</p>
<p>Remember how Snelling went down early a few years back?  How mad would everyone be right now if that led to a collision at home plate knocking Beltre out for the year?  Hell, how pissed at Seattle would the Twins be if that collision hurt Mauer?  </p>
<p>There was more likely a career ending injury occuring by sending a runner there than an actual run scoring.  Sickening.  Heinous.  Atrocious.  There aren&#8217;t words enough to describe how poor a decision it was.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t watch this happen anymore.  Living in Denver, I&#8217;m gonna have to let them go and follow the Rockies.  Seriously.  I just can&#8217;t take being a Mariner Fan, it is too heartbreaking.  I want out.  Please, God, give me the strength to walk away from an abusive relationship.</p>
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