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	<title>Comments on: Time to pray</title>
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		<title>By: gwangung</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/04/18/time-to-pray/comment-page-3/#comment-174565</link>
		<dc:creator>gwangung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 00:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The Cubs don’t have a clue; Wood and Prior’s careers down the tubes… actually, I’d say the Cubs are more clueless than the M’s.

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A) Has the White Sox more in mind...

B) Isn&#039;t that more on Baker than the system as a whole? (and I would cheerfully admit that Baker has no clue about pitchers&#039; arms....)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The Cubs don’t have a clue; Wood and Prior’s careers down the tubes… actually, I’d say the Cubs are more clueless than the M’s.</p>
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<p>A) Has the White Sox more in mind&#8230;</p>
<p>B) Isn&#8217;t that more on Baker than the system as a whole? (and I would cheerfully admit that Baker has no clue about pitchers&#8217; arms&#8230;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Mariner Fan in CO Exile</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/04/18/time-to-pray/comment-page-3/#comment-174563</link>
		<dc:creator>Mariner Fan in CO Exile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 00:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HoRam on KJR, seemed to downplay Felix&#039;s condition as &quot;stiffness,&quot; speculated Felix won&#039;t be gone long, and that it had to do with the weird start to the season. He&#039;s probably talked with Felix today, at least, so my hope slowly increases . . still, doctor he ain&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HoRam on KJR, seemed to downplay Felix&#8217;s condition as &#8220;stiffness,&#8221; speculated Felix won&#8217;t be gone long, and that it had to do with the weird start to the season. He&#8217;s probably talked with Felix today, at least, so my hope slowly increases . . still, doctor he ain&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: joser</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/04/18/time-to-pray/comment-page-3/#comment-174561</link>
		<dc:creator>joser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 00:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note that while the &lt;a href=&quot;http://ussmariner.com/?p=2958&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Attrition War&lt;/a&gt; study concluded that &quot;a pitcher in the Mariner system [is] significantly more likely to be injured than any pitcher&quot; in other systems, it also noted that the Mariners &quot;are a standard deviation above the mean in shoulder injuries. They are not outside a standard deviation in elbow injuries.&quot;

So if it&#039;s Felix&#039;s &lt;i&gt;elbow&lt;/i&gt; and not his shoulder, there&#039;s no reason to have expected this particular injury to be more likely vs if Felix had been developed by another team.  And Felix is an individual, not a random sample.  So &lt;i&gt;expecting&lt;/i&gt; Felix to be injured, at least in this way, is nonesense.  Though the general pessimism about the organization, I&#039;m afraid, is anything but.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note that while the <a href="http://ussmariner.com/?p=2958" rel="nofollow">Attrition War</a> study concluded that &#8220;a pitcher in the Mariner system [is] significantly more likely to be injured than any pitcher&#8221; in other systems, it also noted that the Mariners &#8220;are a standard deviation above the mean in shoulder injuries. They are not outside a standard deviation in elbow injuries.&#8221;</p>
<p>So if it&#8217;s Felix&#8217;s <i>elbow</i> and not his shoulder, there&#8217;s no reason to have expected this particular injury to be more likely vs if Felix had been developed by another team.  And Felix is an individual, not a random sample.  So <i>expecting</i> Felix to be injured, at least in this way, is nonesense.  Though the general pessimism about the organization, I&#8217;m afraid, is anything but.</p>
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		<title>By: debaser</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/04/18/time-to-pray/comment-page-3/#comment-174560</link>
		<dc:creator>debaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 00:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>141:

The Cubs don&#039;t have a clue; Wood and Prior&#039;s careers down the tubes... actually, I&#039;d say the Cubs are more clueless than the M&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>141:</p>
<p>The Cubs don&#8217;t have a clue; Wood and Prior&#8217;s careers down the tubes&#8230; actually, I&#8217;d say the Cubs are more clueless than the M&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: gwangung</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/04/18/time-to-pray/comment-page-3/#comment-174559</link>
		<dc:creator>gwangung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 00:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; 141. So then, do the Mariners have Risks, Strategos or Chutes and Ladders?

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More like worn-out decks of cards that the bosses have fooled themselves into thinking they were Game Boys...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> 141. So then, do the Mariners have Risks, Strategos or Chutes and Ladders?</p>
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<p>More like worn-out decks of cards that the bosses have fooled themselves into thinking they were Game Boys&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: joser</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/04/18/time-to-pray/comment-page-3/#comment-174558</link>
		<dc:creator>joser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 00:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Battleship.  As in, &quot;You sunk my USS...!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Battleship.  As in, &#8220;You sunk my USS&#8230;!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Gomez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gomez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 23:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>141.  So then, do the Mariners have Risks, Strategos or Chutes and Ladders?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>141.  So then, do the Mariners have Risks, Strategos or Chutes and Ladders?</p>
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		<title>By: Mariner Fan in CO Exile</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/04/18/time-to-pray/comment-page-3/#comment-174556</link>
		<dc:creator>Mariner Fan in CO Exile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 23:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this press conference with the doc going to be on KJR?  Just want to know if I should start streaming audio here pretty soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this press conference with the doc going to be on KJR?  Just want to know if I should start streaming audio here pretty soon.</p>
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		<title>By: gwangung</title>
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		<dc:creator>gwangung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 23:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;NY, Boston, Cleveland, Detroit, Chicago… all play outside, and all start the season with temps that are similar to Seattle temps in April.

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Of course, these teams may all have Clues, in comparison to the Mariners...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>NY, Boston, Cleveland, Detroit, Chicago… all play outside, and all start the season with temps that are similar to Seattle temps in April.</p>
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<p>Of course, these teams may all have Clues, in comparison to the Mariners&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: 88fingerslukee</title>
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		<dc:creator>88fingerslukee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 23:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to add that but I figured people here would figure out that baseball is played in MULTIPLE places colder than Seattle.  I apologize for the poor example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to add that but I figured people here would figure out that baseball is played in MULTIPLE places colder than Seattle.  I apologize for the poor example.</p>
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