Game 13, Mariners at Angels

DMZ · April 21, 2007 at 6:06 pm · Filed Under Game Threads 

Horacio Ramirez WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

CF Matthews
SS Cabrera
RF Guerrero
LF Anderson
DH Hillenbrand
1B Quinlan
C Napoli
3B Izturis
2B Aybar

Also: check out Geoff Baker using OBP to explain why the M’s offense is worse than it appears. I remember when Stone was the only person on the staff who ever mentioned OBP.

Comments

249 Responses to “Game 13, Mariners at Angels”

  1. daimajin on April 21st, 2007 6:08 pm

    Go Ms!!! Lets turn it around.

  2. DMZ on April 21st, 2007 6:10 pm

    What’s with this jazzy pre-game music? Weird.

  3. Baker rumors, other nonsense on April 21st, 2007 6:10 pm

    Prediction: HoRam will have more runs than innings.

  4. David* on April 21st, 2007 6:11 pm

    Nice start.

  5. msb on April 21st, 2007 6:12 pm

    so, Derek, how did the book thang go, today?

    and (preceeding Ichiro! getting on base), Baker blogs on the offensive offense and Morrow

  6. Baker rumors, other nonsense on April 21st, 2007 6:12 pm

    Productive out!

  7. apunetid on April 21st, 2007 6:12 pm

    Oh no! I have to listen to that Hudler character! Pray for me…

  8. DMZ on April 21st, 2007 6:14 pm

    Mute! Mute!

  9. msb on April 21st, 2007 6:14 pm

    I think Turbo has been enjoying Chef Jeremy’s work too much.

  10. Baker rumors, other nonsense on April 21st, 2007 6:15 pm

    Unproductive out!

  11. David* on April 21st, 2007 6:16 pm

    Sigh.

  12. argh on April 21st, 2007 6:18 pm

    Runner on 3rd with 1 out and the Ms can’t do it. Same story 93rd verse.

    What team in baseball should be willing to pay the most for Ichiro’s skill set next year? ‘Cause God knows he’s got no reason to hang with this bunch any longer.

  13. _David_ on April 21st, 2007 6:19 pm

    I want to watch the Mariners but watching Cole Hamels strike out his 14th Red is just too fun.

  14. _David_ on April 21st, 2007 6:20 pm

    does that count as a groundball?

  15. Baker rumors, other nonsense on April 21st, 2007 6:20 pm

    Wait, did Dave just say a kid from Inglewood is familiar with Orange County?

  16. msb on April 21st, 2007 6:20 pm

    I wish it was still ‘free mlb extra innings’ week.

  17. Baker rumors, other nonsense on April 21st, 2007 6:21 pm

    I think Ichiro! goes to the Red Sox. At least I hope he does, since I’m a Sox fan.

  18. Baker rumors, other nonsense on April 21st, 2007 6:21 pm

    D’oh!

  19. _David_ on April 21st, 2007 6:22 pm

    I hope he goes to the Yankees, because I hate the Redsox.

  20. Baker rumors, other nonsense on April 21st, 2007 6:22 pm

    Steinbrenner will make Ichiro shave his sideburns.

  21. msb on April 21st, 2007 6:22 pm

    boy, they sure aren’t showing themselves off to advantage the last week….

  22. apunetid on April 21st, 2007 6:23 pm

    I hope he goes to the Mariners, because I like the Mariners.

  23. DMZ on April 21st, 2007 6:25 pm

    Ho-Ram: potential staff ace

  24. apunetid on April 21st, 2007 6:25 pm

    That guy…

  25. Baker rumors, other nonsense on April 21st, 2007 6:25 pm

    I spell “HoRam” with 7 “R”s.

  26. juustabitoutside on April 21st, 2007 6:26 pm

    Blowers: “That’s a fastball.”

    If you’re throwing batting practice, sure.

  27. joesuperdad on April 21st, 2007 6:26 pm

    I’m already beginning to give up on this season — the apathy is setting in.

  28. msb on April 21st, 2007 6:27 pm

    Dave was the Angel’s broadcaster for what, 6 years? before he came to the M’s?

  29. _David_ on April 21st, 2007 6:28 pm

    Charlie Manuel trying to make Hamels’ arm fall off, sending him in 9th with 107 pitches, but he just struck out #15.

  30. Baker rumors, other nonsense on April 21st, 2007 6:28 pm

    28… see, that’s why Dave has all that anger towards the Angels.

  31. msb on April 21st, 2007 6:29 pm

    so, let’s see, KSTW’s 1st key to the game was Ramirez’ going deep into the game, right?

  32. argh on April 21st, 2007 6:29 pm

    It’s probably bitter-sweet for the authors here to have so far been so horrifyingly correct in their assessments of the Mariners’ off-season moves. But so far the sound of the hammer hitting the nail on the head is absolutely deafening.

  33. apunetid on April 21st, 2007 6:30 pm

    This game feels like it’s been going for hours.

  34. Baker rumors, other nonsense on April 21st, 2007 6:31 pm

    The only thing going deep in this game is Guerrero.

  35. Swungonandbelted on April 21st, 2007 6:31 pm

    How bad do you have to be when Rizzs is starting to sound critical about things?

  36. juustabitoutside on April 21st, 2007 6:32 pm

    I hope Ho-Ram is wearing a flak jacket.

  37. apunetid on April 21st, 2007 6:34 pm

    Horam! Oh man!

  38. Swungonandbelted on April 21st, 2007 6:34 pm

    Least he’s wearing a glove….

  39. msb on April 21st, 2007 6:35 pm

    did they call that gold glove moment for Sexson an error?

  40. juustabitoutside on April 21st, 2007 6:35 pm

    He’s going to get a lot more practice at that play, it appears.

  41. _David_ on April 21st, 2007 6:35 pm

    So who will go first, Ho-Ram, Weaver, Bautista, Hargrove, Bavasi. Actually, more appropriate would be to rank the order of their departure, but it’s too depressing to try.

  42. hub on April 21st, 2007 6:37 pm

    The media is coming along…albeit VERY slowly. It wasn’t too long ago when AVG/HR/RBI and ERA/WINS/Ks were all that was ever talked about. I look forward to the day (probably not as far into the future as we may think) when an ESPN analyst confidently says, “35 Saves? Thats fine, but when did Saves ever tell the true story of a reliever’s effectiveness?”

  43. argh on April 21st, 2007 6:39 pm

    If they continue to be as bad as some of the early indications are hinting what the heck can you do? It’s not like Thriftway will be running a special on middle rotation pitchers anytime this summer.

  44. apunetid on April 21st, 2007 6:39 pm

    Guillen: Angel killer and ankle agitator.

  45. hub on April 21st, 2007 6:40 pm

    So ‘Ho-Ram’ is his short nickname. And here I always thought it simply was ‘HR’.

  46. Swungonandbelted on April 21st, 2007 6:40 pm

    41. I’d say that Hargrove and Weaver will be company for each other as they leave town on that greyhound buss…. Bavasi will probably be here at least long enough to #%*& up any possible Ichiro! trade…

  47. argh on April 21st, 2007 6:40 pm

    Guillen’s been sending him bags of potato chips all off-season.

  48. msb on April 21st, 2007 6:40 pm

    225 pounds. ha.

  49. argh on April 21st, 2007 6:41 pm

    And the way the Ms are hitting him, he should have sent more.

  50. msb on April 21st, 2007 6:46 pm

    lordy this is the longest inning and a half.

    it makes one wonder such things as, why does it always look like Bart’s hair came pre-attached to his hat?

  51. go_cougs on April 21st, 2007 6:46 pm

    #41. I hope Weaver do to his albatross of a contract. Ho-Ram may be piss poor but he only costs 2.65 million to suck.

  52. The Unknown Comic on April 21st, 2007 6:47 pm

    Now that Felix is not around to stop these four game losing streaks the Mariners are going to lose 17 of their next 20 games.

  53. msb on April 21st, 2007 6:49 pm

    just a thought– if Colon’s ankle is iffy, wouldn’t it be a good time to bunt towards the mound?

  54. IdahoInvader on April 21st, 2007 6:52 pm

    Well we TRIED to give then two on w/ one out, but they just wouldn’t take it!

  55. IdahoInvader on April 21st, 2007 6:53 pm

    53

    Grover probably figures he’s to stealth to let the lil’ ankle injury stop him from fielding so well.

    Plus that would, afterall, involve actual strategy.

  56. juustabitoutside on April 21st, 2007 6:54 pm

    msb, I think you can buy that hat in the stadium concourse.

    Proceeds to the Hair Club for Men.

  57. The Unknown Comic on April 21st, 2007 6:54 pm

    I realize Dave Niehaus probably has grandchildren to feed and is happy to be part of the Mariners gravy train but I would love to see him melt down in the box, wile out and get violent and scream “I can’t sell this shit to the unsuspecting public anymore in good conscience.”

  58. joesuperdad on April 21st, 2007 6:55 pm

    I’m still holding out hope for Ramirez. I don’t know why. I’m hoping that he’s somewhat effectual when he is healthy. Bavasi is a general manager. He can’t have brought in a totally useless package of players, can he? Or is the rest of the league really laughing him?

    I’m trying not to think Bavasi is a moron.

  59. Baker rumors, other nonsense on April 21st, 2007 6:55 pm

    Wait, EVERY hit Vlad has made off HoRam has been a home run?

    Isn’t this the situation where, you know, walk a guy?

  60. Baker rumors, other nonsense on April 21st, 2007 6:57 pm

    Wow, Hargrove must be reading my posts.

    Hey Grover! You suck!

  61. The Unknown Comic on April 21st, 2007 6:57 pm

    58

    From what I heard the Braves were going to release Ramirez anyway so we basically gave Soriano away. Don’t know if its true or not.

  62. IdahoInvader on April 21st, 2007 6:58 pm

    Even the outs getting us out of the inning our bullets…sheesh

    Too bad the Angels already have two more runs than they really need

  63. joesuperdad on April 21st, 2007 6:59 pm

    Nice play by Lopez there — that could have saved who knows how many runs.

  64. The Unknown Comic on April 21st, 2007 7:03 pm

    My prediction for the rest of tonights game… The Mariners will fight back and take the lead 4-3. Ramirez will retire the first two batters of the 7th inning with ease then will proceed to walk the bases loaded. Mateo will by brought in and on an 0-2 count will give up a 3 run double. In the ninth inning the Mariners will make a gutty comeback attempt but will fall one run short as they get thrown out at home attemping to score from 2nd on a base hit.

  65. IdahoInvader on April 21st, 2007 7:05 pm

    You’re not serious are ya?

    You think HoRam will actually hold them to three and that we’ll somehow get FOUR?

    The only way we get four, is if they’re up 7-1 going into the ninth.

  66. The Unknown Comic on April 21st, 2007 7:08 pm

    I’m only partially serious.

  67. The Unknown Comic on April 21st, 2007 7:11 pm

    I wonder if there is any correlation between Mariner suckage and the frequency of posts in the commentary section of this weblog.

  68. Baker rumors, other nonsense on April 21st, 2007 7:11 pm

    Don’t forget Hargrove taking Beltre, Ibanez and Sexson out of the lineup once he is up by one run. Gotta put in those defensive replacements – like Bloomquist at third.

  69. milehighmariner on April 21st, 2007 7:11 pm

    It’s seems like Beltre is on the ball this year but he only has warning track power for some reason…is he just a split second off or did the lingering heel problems effect his power swing?

  70. juustabitoutside on April 21st, 2007 7:12 pm

    Ho-Ram would be an excellent cast member of Survivor.

  71. IdahoInvader on April 21st, 2007 7:15 pm

    70

    For at least one week, lol

  72. David* on April 21st, 2007 7:16 pm

    70:

    You saying you want him to relocate to a deserted island? Why limit it to just Ho-Ram….I can think of a few other fellas in Ms uniforms who I’d like to see join him.

  73. DMZ on April 21st, 2007 7:17 pm

    oh maaaaaaaaaaaaan

    these are our maarrrinnneeerrrrrrrrsssssssssss

    brought to you by Chevy

  74. juustabitoutside on April 21st, 2007 7:17 pm

    Did Colon make any other movies after The Princess Bride?

  75. IdahoInvader on April 21st, 2007 7:18 pm

    74

    Just as Jabba’s stand-in for the Star Wars Trilogy

    Is he even trying out there? Notice our usual NO WALKS

  76. joesuperdad on April 21st, 2007 7:20 pm

    Really, the no walk thing is getting really old really fast. The Mariners seem to never have anyone on base. Not that it matters, because they strand so whomever gets on base.

    Am I watching the last 3 years all over again? Is this Groundhog Year or something?

  77. The Unknown Comic on April 21st, 2007 7:22 pm

    Ho-Ram settling in. My prediction may just come true.

  78. _David_ on April 21st, 2007 7:23 pm

    Hudler and Physioc discussing who has the best defensive left side of the infield:

    Physioc: (goes on about how Betencourt can throw from any angle, how he has great range)

    Hudler: Some might say the Yankees with Jeter, and A-Rod, but A-Rod doesn’t have the ability that Beltre has.

  79. IdahoInvader on April 21st, 2007 7:25 pm

    At least Beltre isn’t overpaid…oops, never mind

  80. IdahoInvader on April 21st, 2007 7:26 pm

    I wish we had a guy able to hit a hr when its pitched down the heart of the plate. You know, like Vlad.

    YAWN…another easy inning

  81. DMZ on April 21st, 2007 7:27 pm

    Beltre’s not overpaid compared to his third base peers.

  82. The Unknown Comic on April 21st, 2007 7:29 pm

    As long as F-Rod gets the save I got him on my fantasy team. Come on Mariners stay within 3 baby.

  83. DMZ on April 21st, 2007 7:30 pm

    MATEO!!!!

  84. The Unknown Comic on April 21st, 2007 7:32 pm

    SAVE MATEO FOR WHEN IT REALLY MATTERS!!!

  85. Arkinese on April 21st, 2007 7:32 pm

    Hey, Mateo’s coming in! Game over…for us.

  86. DMZ on April 21st, 2007 7:33 pm

    Let’s pour some gas on that fire, Hargrove, and get Mateo in there.

  87. Arkinese on April 21st, 2007 7:34 pm

    82 — No wonder we’ll lose! You picked against your team :)

  88. argh on April 21st, 2007 7:34 pm

    We got enough people being over-paid on this team, starting with Bavasi and Hargrove, to worry about Beltre.

  89. _David_ on April 21st, 2007 7:34 pm

    By the end of this series, Garret Anderson might look tradable!

  90. Arkinese on April 21st, 2007 7:35 pm

    4 innings, 4 R (potential for 6), 7 H…how much did we pay for this guy?

  91. juustabitoutside on April 21st, 2007 7:36 pm

    Anderson is a “tremendous hitter”. So sayeth Blowers, so say we all.

    Or…you know…not.

  92. DMZ on April 21st, 2007 7:36 pm

    Tired of watching the team get cuffed around? Here’s some gratuitous T&A!

  93. _David_ on April 21st, 2007 7:37 pm

    When did the issue of whether Beltre’s overpaid come into this discussion. I can name 6 starters on the Mariners who aren’t overpaid: Beltre, Lopez, Betancourt, Johjima, Felix, Ichiro

  94. Swungonandbelted on April 21st, 2007 7:38 pm

    90. Less than 1/3 of what we paid for Weaver if I remember right. Think of HoRam as relatively economical suckage.

  95. Arkinese on April 21st, 2007 7:38 pm

    Derek — I was just thinking the same thing. Why am I seeing some girl’s neon green butt? Did CW accidentally switch to One Tree Hill or whatever?

  96. GMH on April 21st, 2007 7:38 pm

    I just got home and looked at the Tacoma stats. Feierabend pitched only three innings. Anyone know if he was just pulled after giving up the runs or did he suffer an injury?

  97. milehighmariner on April 21st, 2007 7:40 pm

    I was watching the RedSox v Yanks game last night wondering how in the heck Dusty Baker’s in the announcers booth while Grover’s in our dugout?!?! Heck, I’d take his cohorts John Kruk and Karl Ravech as bench coaches if it meant getting rid of Grover!

  98. Arkinese on April 21st, 2007 7:41 pm

    94 – I’d like to but we lost Soriano in that deal because Bill Bavasi is the exact opposite of John Schuerholz. And JS just signed Bobby Cox, the Best Manager in Baseball through 2008. Why can’t we get a GM and manager like that?!

  99. argh on April 21st, 2007 7:42 pm

    They lack grit.

  100. juustabitoutside on April 21st, 2007 7:42 pm

    Something about an Indian burial ground and the attendant curse, as I understand it.

  101. _David_ on April 21st, 2007 7:42 pm

    Why did the Angels sign Hillenbrand? They could’ve had Doyle + Fruto (probably Huber too, maybe O’Flaherty) for Garret Anderson.

  102. Lucky Number on April 21st, 2007 7:43 pm

    Sigh. Well, I guess I can start drinking now.

  103. Arkinese on April 21st, 2007 7:43 pm

    Robb Quinlen is no longer in the slump. It’s like as soon as Sims talks about it, it goes away (the no-hitter last Wednesday comes to mind…).

  104. DMZ on April 21st, 2007 7:43 pm

    I don’t think Dusty Baker’s a good fit for what needs to happen with the M’s the next few years

  105. Swungonandbelted on April 21st, 2007 7:44 pm

    somebody slip Sim’s some money then to start talking about the suck that is the M’s pitching…

  106. _David_ on April 21st, 2007 7:44 pm

    103: With that logic, there’s a lot of people in the organization/team Sims should talk more about.

  107. Arkinese on April 21st, 2007 7:44 pm

    Mateo: Breaking Games Open since 2004.

  108. _David_ on April 21st, 2007 7:45 pm

    The Mariners should take out a restraining order against Dusty Baker on behalf of Felix.

  109. Arkinese on April 21st, 2007 7:46 pm

    106 — There’s a good call. If only Sims would actually do that…

    They’re gonna bat around here in a second. Oh and another great stat from Sims!

  110. Tommyjoe_3 on April 21st, 2007 7:46 pm

    Nice Mateo. Gives up the first hit of the year to Quinlan. Very nice…check out the stellar BA now for this guy – .071 Mateo is terrible. Man, I used to think everyone on here was just real negative. Now I’m beginning to see y’all just happen to be realists. I mean, Mateo, seriously Hargrove? You don’t have to use the guy EVERY time. Let someone else pitch and see if they can keep a sort of close game close rather than turn a sort of close game into…let’s see what happens tomorrow.

  111. Tom on April 21st, 2007 7:47 pm

    It appears we are headed for 5 losses in a row, already almost halfway to that 11 game losing streak of last year.

    If we have to tank it a few more games to get Hargrove out, fine with me; especially since we have a lot of season left.

  112. _David_ on April 21st, 2007 7:47 pm

    Are there any uber-prospects we can look forward to snagging in June?

  113. Arkinese on April 21st, 2007 7:49 pm

    Wow, pitching and fielding….

  114. _David_ on April 21st, 2007 7:49 pm

    does that double-fake every work?

  115. Swungonandbelted on April 21st, 2007 7:50 pm

    Unfortunately at this point, it’s not just getting rid of Grover… whoever follows him has a horrible rotation to try to deal with.

  116. The Unknown Comic on April 21st, 2007 7:52 pm

    We can always hope that Hargrove will wake up in a cold sweat tonight in his hotel room and have a revelation… “Julio Mateo is going to cost me my job.”

  117. Baker rumors, other nonsense on April 21st, 2007 7:52 pm

    97 – Dusty Baker is only a good coach in the summer, when it’s hot outside.

  118. DiamondDave on April 21st, 2007 7:53 pm

    Gotta get this trivia question in before the Angels score AGAIN.

    Why is the score Angels 7, Mariners 0 significant to Ms fans?

  119. Arkinese on April 21st, 2007 7:53 pm

    Mateo can do no right this inning.

  120. Tommyjoe_3 on April 21st, 2007 7:54 pm

    FINALLY!

  121. The Unknown Comic on April 21st, 2007 7:56 pm

    Somebody should make a Doonesbury like comic strip about Mike Hargrove.

  122. DiamondDave on April 21st, 2007 7:56 pm

    WTP… Warning Track Power.

  123. Josh on April 21st, 2007 7:57 pm

    Gotta get this trivia question in before the Angels score AGAIN.

    Why is the score Angels 7, Mariners 0 significant to Ms fans?

    Are you saying we just travelled back 30 years?

    If so, would it be for better or for worse?

  124. RC on April 21st, 2007 7:57 pm

    Hard to believe I’m actually wishing Gil Meche was back in the rotation.

  125. wfan99 on April 21st, 2007 7:58 pm

    AS of right now we dont have any good starting pitchers none. and only one decent pitcher(Wash)

    I rather see beak out there then weaver and rammy. this team is awful. i have decided not to purchase another t-shirt, or cap until bravski is fired. in the past i never started an opponents sp against the m’s but now i have started to in fanstasy just because i am rooting for the team to fail so felix doesn’t pitch too many innings and to make sure we have turnover up top. i really hope we trade ichiro cause there is no way he is coming back to this awful organization.

  126. Baker rumors, other nonsense on April 21st, 2007 7:58 pm

    Richie Sexson – he could turn off the light in his hotel room and be in bed two hours later.

  127. The Unknown Comic on April 21st, 2007 7:59 pm

    125

    Look at the bright side… At least it is going to be easier to get batting practice balls at Safeco.

  128. Baker rumors, other nonsense on April 21st, 2007 8:01 pm

    Somewhere, some poor kid who receives charitable support for each HR the Mariners hit is crying.

  129. JIMINEDMONDS on April 21st, 2007 8:01 pm

    This team has hit the quinella: they are both bad and boring. I am really getting to hate this inept bunch of losers. They will be lucky to win any games on this road trip. Then, it may be “all she wrote” for Grover.

  130. Arkinese on April 21st, 2007 8:01 pm

    oh good. Mateo knocked Johjima out too. I HATE this team.

  131. wfan99 on April 21st, 2007 8:02 pm

    to finish wiht my post I 125 was born and raised in Queens, NY so i only see them in toronto,cleveland, or new york (i go to school in buffalo so toronto and cleveland are close during the school months) and since i will not be home for either yankee series and well cleveland got snowed out i wont see any game unless i see them in toronto the first week of college but i’ll probabely be on a business trip and thus this will be the frst time in 12 years i will not see them and to be honest i’m kinda happy cause if i dont see the king this team outside of the middle infield is just awful.

  132. The Unknown Comic on April 21st, 2007 8:03 pm

    129

    Yeah but they have good commercials.

  133. Baker rumors, other nonsense on April 21st, 2007 8:03 pm

    129… I’ve heard that for the last two years. Heck, remember last year, when Rohn was brought up to basically wait and replace Hargrove when he was fired?

  134. planB on April 21st, 2007 8:03 pm

    I dunno, I prefer bad baseball to no baseball.

  135. Baker rumors, other nonsense on April 21st, 2007 8:04 pm

    131 – have you ever heard of this thing called a ‘period’? It’s really cool, you can end sentences with it.

  136. RC on April 21st, 2007 8:04 pm

    Wow a 1-2-3 inning….O’Flaherty for mayor.

  137. DiamondDave on April 21st, 2007 8:06 pm

    Correct answer, Josh. You get a free pass to stop watching the rest of this ugly baseball game.

    As to your question to me: It was definitely better back then. At least 30 years ago we were just psyched to have pro baseball in town. We knew they’d probably suck, but we didn’t care. The fact that with 30 years of franchise experience they can spend $100 million and suck just as bad is really, really depressing.

    On the other hand, 30 years ago we didn’t have blogs on which to commiserate with fellow sufferers about our team’s incredible suckitude.

  138. juustabitoutside on April 21st, 2007 8:06 pm

    Do those punctuation marks on the keyboard cost extra or something?

  139. The Unknown Comic on April 21st, 2007 8:06 pm

    135

    Yeah I learned all that stuff from Schoolhouse Rock on Saturday mornings.

  140. Shizane on April 21st, 2007 8:07 pm

    It is really sad to be a Mariners fan these days, knowing that 3 out of every 5 games will be a loss right off the bat. The only professional SP the M’s have are Felix and Washburn, and Felix is hurt. Someone needs to be fired for this……

  141. DMZ on April 21st, 2007 8:07 pm

    There’s also a shift key on each half of the keyboard.

  142. Josh on April 21st, 2007 8:07 pm

    Pitches seen through 6 innings:

    Seattle: 62 (70.9% strikes)
    LAAOA: 117 (59.8% strikes)

  143. JIMINEDMONDS on April 21st, 2007 8:07 pm

    #133–Rohn must have thought the same thing, so he apparently set out to undermind Hargrove possibly in anticipation of his hiring. Like so much else with this bumbling organization, Rohn couldn’t even grease the dismissal of his boss without getting himself fired.

  144. Arkinese on April 21st, 2007 8:08 pm

    Woo! Good job, Cabrera! Every time you do that is another out toward getting rid of Hargrove and Bavasi. re: Burke. Glad he gets to play but %$&@ Mateo for bruising Kenji’s calf. That’s the last thing we need.

  145. Josh on April 21st, 2007 8:08 pm

    You get a free pass to stop watching the rest of this ugly baseball game.

    Hoo-ray! One more free pass than the M’s!

  146. Tek Jansen on April 21st, 2007 8:09 pm

    Rally time. Put in all the subs Grover.

  147. Baker rumors, other nonsense on April 21st, 2007 8:11 pm

    Yeah, those Angels hitters were really aiming to hit our crappy pitchers.

    “Make sure to get Mateo! They’ll lose their top reliever, bwahaha!”

  148. The Unknown Comic on April 21st, 2007 8:12 pm

    Conjuntcion, junction, what’s your funciton?…

  149. Baker rumors, other nonsense on April 21st, 2007 8:12 pm

    Six down, so what?

  150. Arkinese on April 21st, 2007 8:12 pm

    Did Mateo indirectly do something right by making Burke play and, ultimately, scoring the first run?

  151. The Unknown Comic on April 21st, 2007 8:12 pm

    oops, conjunction and function.

  152. JIMINEDMONDS on April 21st, 2007 8:13 pm

    Another productive offensive inning by this offensive juggernaut.

  153. Arkinese on April 21st, 2007 8:14 pm

    Do these Charles Schwab ads creep the hell out of anyone else? Is it just me?

  154. DiamondDave on April 21st, 2007 8:14 pm

    i’m so upset about this game i lost my burrito and i can’t find it.

  155. Arkinese on April 21st, 2007 8:15 pm

    Sims does it again!

  156. Baker rumors, other nonsense on April 21st, 2007 8:16 pm

    153… no, not just you. Does anyone even use a broker anymore?

  157. Dave in Palo Alto on April 21st, 2007 8:17 pm

    What a boring, listless team.

  158. DiamondDave on April 21st, 2007 8:17 pm

    good news i found my burrito bad news now i need to watch this game (it’s like a horror movie)

  159. RC on April 21st, 2007 8:19 pm

    Okay, I’m ready to put O’Flaherty into the starting rotation. Get rid of…well take your pick of 3, 4 or 5.

  160. The Unknown Comic on April 21st, 2007 8:20 pm

    Expect to see a lot of Jake Woods this season.

  161. argh on April 21st, 2007 8:20 pm

    O’Flaherty’s actually looking like a pitcher out there. Too little, too late but it’s something I suppose.

  162. JIMINEDMONDS on April 21st, 2007 8:20 pm

    #157–The ennui that is produced by this team is embodied by the passionless dullness of the TV broadcast team of Sims and Blowers. This season is quickly turning into one big turn-off.

  163. Arkinese on April 21st, 2007 8:20 pm

    Eric O’Flaherty has pitched better than anyone on the Mariners in the last four days…and with Weaver “pitching” tomorrow, it will soon be the last five days.

  164. Baker rumors, other nonsense on April 21st, 2007 8:21 pm

    i wish i had a burrito like the one they make at burrito emporiam with the cheese and meet the beef not the pork and especially not the chicken because i dont like the spices or the sauce cause it drips everywhere and my hands get all sticky and i have to go up and get more napkins and they never have enough so i have to wipe my hands on my pants and then i cant get the stains out because i get cheap laundry detergent since it usually works though my tshirts keep getting darker and darker and not white like in the commercials even the ones where they throw ketchup on the shirt and real ketchup like heinz and not the fake ketchup like hunts which sucks

  165. Tak on April 21st, 2007 8:22 pm

    Watch out for a pointless 8th/9th inning rally!

  166. argh on April 21st, 2007 8:23 pm

    Mr. Ginsberg, he dead.

  167. Baker rumors, other nonsense on April 21st, 2007 8:23 pm

    Darren Oliver used to be a starter, we should trade O’Flaherty and Ichiro to them! We totally need a starter!

  168. Arkinese on April 21st, 2007 8:23 pm

    Vlady! Good job!

  169. argh on April 21st, 2007 8:24 pm

    They’re treating us with contempt now and deservedly so.

  170. msb on April 21st, 2007 8:25 pm

    Robb Quinlen is no longer in the slump. It’s like as soon as Sims talks about it, it goes away (the no-hitter last Wednesday comes to mind…).

    I think you have the wrong correllary — it isn’t that Sims is causing things to happen, it is that Sims is reporting on the Mariners causing things to happen …

    on the other hand, Rizzs will always cause a Mariner performance to go to hell in a handbasket by over-praise.

  171. msb on April 21st, 2007 8:26 pm

    ahem. corollary.

  172. The Unknown Comic on April 21st, 2007 8:27 pm

    164

    what brand of laundy detergent do u use

  173. JIMINEDMONDS on April 21st, 2007 8:27 pm

    #170–That is when Sims is not calling the team the “Marlins” as he did last week.

  174. argh on April 21st, 2007 8:28 pm

    I think Mike Soscia delivers the most militarily precise signals of any manager in baseball.

  175. Arkinese on April 21st, 2007 8:30 pm

    170 – You’re probably right but I still blame Sims for that no-hitter-turned-one-hitter. No hitters are like Fight Club and a veteran broadcaster like Sims should have known that. You can allude to a no-hitter without actually saying the words “no-hitter” 47 times in a row.

    On topic for today’s game: Go Mariners! Jose Guillen silences the booing crowd!

  176. Baker rumors, other nonsense on April 21st, 2007 8:30 pm

    172 i use dixie which you can only find in the south and some cities in ohio which im not sure why but i found it at big lots because they are cheap and i get my food there too like this boxed noodle dish like rice a roni but with noodles instead of rice and with a sauce instead of just flavoring and a good sauce not like the chicken sauce at the burrito place and even tho the box says to add chicken i add canned tuna and it is still good but tastes fishy

  177. JIMINEDMONDS on April 21st, 2007 8:30 pm

    #175–Jose Guillen, “The Energizer”.

  178. msb on April 21st, 2007 8:30 pm

    ah, Baker.

    “how exactly does a guy who hasn’t pitched in eight months, Bartolo Colon, get through five innings on just 55 pitches? He isn’t throwing only strikes tonight. The free-swinging going on is not going to work. The Mariners have to make Colon work harder than this.”

  179. msb on April 21st, 2007 8:31 pm

    “170 – You’re probably right but I still blame Sims for that no-hitter-turned-one-hitter. No hitters are like Fight Club and a veteran broadcaster like Sims should have known that. You can allude to a no-hitter without actually saying the words “no-hitter” 47 times in a row. ”

    you mean just as Neihaus did, too?

  180. DiamondDave on April 21st, 2007 8:33 pm

    instead of watching the game i’m downloading songs of angry rap singers.

  181. Baker rumors, other nonsense on April 21st, 2007 8:34 pm

    Why am I watching this stupid game? I just got my “Crime Story” DVDs from Netflix. Dennis Farina time.

  182. JIMINEDMONDS on April 21st, 2007 8:34 pm

    #180–Save yourself the misery, just listen to Imus reruns.

  183. Arkinese on April 21st, 2007 8:35 pm

    179 – I wasn’t listening to the radio. Must have been the explosive combination of “no-hitter” being repeated over and over and over in a matter of minutes. Karma’s a bitch.

  184. apunetid on April 21st, 2007 8:38 pm

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  185. planB on April 21st, 2007 8:39 pm

    Wow.

  186. _David_ on April 21st, 2007 8:39 pm

    Scott Sheilds will put up better career numbers than Bruce Sutter, and will have won at least one WS, and will get 0 HoF votes.

  187. Baker rumors, other nonsense on April 21st, 2007 8:39 pm

    Mike has that gaze o’ death.

  188. DiamondDave on April 21st, 2007 8:39 pm

    i just choked on my burrito !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  189. Arkinese on April 21st, 2007 8:39 pm

    holy… when I finally lose my faith in this team….

  190. argh on April 21st, 2007 8:39 pm

    Maybe Broussard ought to just play 1st base and have Richie pinchhit.

  191. pablothegreat on April 21st, 2007 8:39 pm

    The Angels should be pissed at the umpire. Broussard looked at strike three twice before he hit his grand slam.

  192. _David_ on April 21st, 2007 8:39 pm

    Funk Slam

  193. msb on April 21st, 2007 8:40 pm

    Why am I watching this stupid game? I just got my “Crime Story” DVDs from Netflix. Dennis Farina time.

    ahhh. Torello. Walt. Nate. Danny & Joey. Luca and Paulie, and the man, Frank Holman and the Holmanettes.

  194. JIMINEDMONDS on April 21st, 2007 8:40 pm

    BBBBBennie!! Come on guys, you gotta win this one now.

  195. Baker rumors, other nonsense on April 21st, 2007 8:40 pm

    Joe Bag o’ Doughnuts?

  196. Tak on April 21st, 2007 8:41 pm

    my prediction was correct! but this actually could turn into a not point-less rally!

  197. _David_ on April 21st, 2007 8:41 pm

    I’m a pessimist. K-Rod will come next inning and we no longer have Roberto Petagine.

  198. argh on April 21st, 2007 8:42 pm

    Joe Bag o’ Doughnuts?

    Me too. I have no idea.

  199. Arkinese on April 21st, 2007 8:42 pm

    Now they’ve messed up both catchers. Ouch…

  200. milehighmariner on April 21st, 2007 8:42 pm

    They just like to tease us…still, makes me wonder about the use of Mateo again earlier in the game?

  201. _David_ on April 21st, 2007 8:43 pm

    196, It might be pointless, but it won’t have been point-less.

  202. planB on April 21st, 2007 8:44 pm

    …still one run short, though.

  203. thewyrm on April 21st, 2007 8:44 pm

    Just once we need one of these rallies to actually produce a win.

  204. Joe Bag o' Doughnuts on April 21st, 2007 8:44 pm

    Well, at least I’ve found my new moniker.

  205. Arkinese on April 21st, 2007 8:45 pm

    200 – seriously. We could possibly be tied or even ahead had Mateo not come in to screw things up.

  206. thewyrm on April 21st, 2007 8:45 pm

    Would now be a good time for JJ?

  207. _David_ on April 21st, 2007 8:47 pm

    204: Where did that phrase come from? Did one of the announcers say it?

  208. argh on April 21st, 2007 8:47 pm

    Fangraph says Broussard tooks us (in round numbers) from a 3% chance of winning to a 20% chance. ‘Course I wouldn’t take 5-1 right now.

  209. argh on April 21st, 2007 8:48 pm

    Is there a statistic for relievers who give up inherited runners? Mateo must be through the roof if there is.

  210. milehighmariner on April 21st, 2007 8:49 pm

    give me a break!!!

  211. joesuperdad on April 21st, 2007 8:49 pm

    He was safe — Jose missed the tag.

  212. _David_ on April 21st, 2007 8:49 pm

    He got the fabric on his shins, should’ve been called out.

  213. argh on April 21st, 2007 8:49 pm

    That ump better be on the Anaheim payroll or there’s no excuse for that call.

  214. milehighmariner on April 21st, 2007 8:51 pm

    I don’t care if he actually got him or not, when you’re thrown out by 5 feet the tag needs to be down or the umps should treat it like the phantom double play call…

  215. thewyrm on April 21st, 2007 8:51 pm

    I know sometimes it is necessary, but I absolutely hate intentional walks.

  216. Arkinese on April 21st, 2007 8:51 pm

    Unfortunately, I wonder if that blown safe call was making up for the two balls-that-were-actually-strikes to Broussard. I know it’s not the same ump, but that ump could see those calls just as well.

  217. joesuperdad on April 21st, 2007 8:51 pm

    Hey, can we bring Mateo in again?

  218. planB on April 21st, 2007 8:51 pm

    I am consistently impressed by how often umpires are right.

  219. planB on April 21st, 2007 8:52 pm

    214: that’s a force play, though… he didn’t tag him

  220. zzyzx on April 21st, 2007 8:54 pm

    What’s the record for consecutive games of having a late rally to excite the fans that you still lose?

  221. The Unknown Comic on April 21st, 2007 8:54 pm

    Like I say, the city of Seattle is cursed and the curse will not be lifted until we give America back to the Native Americans. Of course then most of us will have to move back to Europe so their wont be much point in being a Mariners fan because the Native Americans will disassemble the military-industrial complex that European immigrants have constructed. So basically its a catch 22 being a Mariners fan. So don’t get your hopes up.

  222. Arkinese on April 21st, 2007 8:55 pm

    hee, the phantom DP. I love explaining to baseball novices, after they freak out that “he wasn’t even touching second base during that double play!” that if the shortstop or second baseman is within the general vicinity of the bag, it will often count.

    J.J.!!!!

  223. _David_ on April 21st, 2007 8:56 pm

    Who are we bringing in? The idiot Angels announcers just say “the righthander”

  224. Tak on April 21st, 2007 8:58 pm

    JJ!

  225. milehighmariner on April 21st, 2007 8:58 pm

    219: you’re technically supposed to touch the base on a force just like you’re supposed to tag the runner…you’re too literal on here, I was venting on Jose not making a play he should make and trying to come up with a way it could have been called out for the M’s because in the heat of the moment I want them to win and get these outs instead of give them away…sorry if rationale and being a fan doesn’t always go hand-in-hand.

  226. msb on April 21st, 2007 8:59 pm

    so is there anyone left in the bullpen should this game extend beyond 9?

  227. PositivePaul on April 21st, 2007 9:00 pm

    WOOOT! Cheater coming in!!!

  228. Tak on April 21st, 2007 9:03 pm

    Morrow!

  229. Arkinese on April 21st, 2007 9:03 pm

    Woods?

  230. JMHawkins on April 21st, 2007 9:04 pm

    They don’t seem to be putting the camera on K-Rod much between pitches. Wonder why?

  231. msb on April 21st, 2007 9:04 pm

    sigh.

  232. zzyzx on April 21st, 2007 9:05 pm

    Hmmmm hat tug followed by ball plunging into the dirt…

  233. argh on April 21st, 2007 9:09 pm

    Hat tug followed by Mariners plunging into the dirt.

  234. thewyrm on April 21st, 2007 9:09 pm

    typical

  235. Arkinese on April 21st, 2007 9:09 pm

    sigh, indeed.

  236. milehighmariner on April 21st, 2007 9:10 pm

    Lame…Vin Scully’s on mlb.tv though, still a thing of beauty listening to him call a game!

  237. argh on April 21st, 2007 9:11 pm

    Fact is, the Mariners scored enough runs tonight to win a lot of baseball games, provided they had league average starting pitching.

    Gonna be a long season unless there are miracles waiting down in Tacoma and points south.

  238. Tak on April 21st, 2007 9:16 pm

    #237

    completely agreed. The offense has its own problems, not walking, grounding into double plays, bad baserunning, stranding runners left and right… but they have been scoring decently well, and all these late-inning rallies would have lead to wins if it werent for the horrible starting pitching.

  239. Dave in Palo Alto on April 21st, 2007 9:31 pm

    And relieving.

  240. Paul B on April 21st, 2007 10:05 pm

    Ramirez and Mateo just aren’t very good.

    Is it true, I heard Sims say that this was the very first pinch hit grand slam in Mariner history? Can that be true?

  241. Tak on April 21st, 2007 10:24 pm

    #239

    I think that comes from bad management as well

  242. shortbus on April 21st, 2007 11:41 pm

    One more nail in Hargrove’s coffin. I didn’t see the game, but I’m comfortable in saying so, because it’s Bavasi that holds all the cards. At some point Bavasi will jettison Hargrove in hopes of a turnaround that makes him look like a genius, masking his craptastic effort at constructing a lineup and rotation.

  243. davepaisley on April 22nd, 2007 12:11 am

    OK, best case scenario, five more consecutive losses, Grover melts down in post game press conference, gets fired. What’s not to like about that?

    With Weaver going tomorrow, and cannon fodder brought up for Monday, we’re pretty sure the next two are going down, while even if Washburn pitches well on Tuesday, it will only be to see the ubiquitous Mateo come in and blow the game.

    Follow that with two mandatory losses at Oakland and we’re there.

    If that’s not enough, maybe a sweep at Safeco by KC will seal the deal, capped by a Gil Meche shutout on Sunday.

  244. Tom on April 22nd, 2007 12:13 am

    #242: I don’t know how after Hargrove gets fired why anyone would call Bavasi a genius for something that needed to be done last August.

    Although certainly getting him fired would be a step in the right direction. It should definitely be interesting to see what happens if this losing streak gets up to 8, 9, or 10 games (right now we are at 5). . .

  245. Tom on April 22nd, 2007 12:14 am

    #243: hahaha, that Gil Meche shutout would certainly follow that golden rule of former Mariners coming back to bite us in the butt.

    Heck, even Jeff Cirillo and Al Martin have come back to Safeco and hit home runs against us in games.

  246. bmanuw on April 22nd, 2007 1:30 am

    Countdown to Hargrove and Bavasi’s asses getting shit-canned 5…4…3…2….1….

    Wow our 5-3 record seems like an eternity away

  247. vj on April 22nd, 2007 4:32 am

    Going back to the post and Baker using OBP I’d like to point out that Jim Street critizises the batters lack of patience against Colon in his game summary. I’d say he’s onto something there.

  248. msb on April 22nd, 2007 7:26 am

    ah, Gil.

    G IP H R ER HR BB SO W L ERA
    4 28.1 27 10 7 3 7 21 1 1 2.22

    so, what is it so far — A Promise finally fulfilled? A fluke? A guy who put his personal problems behind him, by throwing it all into his work?

  249. DiamondDave on April 22nd, 2007 9:41 am

    Just to close out this whole sorry thread… sorry about the lack of punctuation and capital letters in my last two or three posts. I was letting my 9-year-old type my posts while I was eating my burrito (I’m NOT making this up). Apparently I need to speak to him about USS Mariner etiquette, and also about that sorry excuse for a fourth-grade teacher he has.

    Still, though, I liked the Ginsburg comment. We have some literate readers/writers on this blog! Nice. I loved 221’s post about the Native American curse, but I think it would have been much better if it lacked punctuation and capital letters.

    And as far as the Ms: Is it too early to give up on the playoffs? I think not.

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