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		<title>By: feingarden</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/05/05/more-totally-unjustified-vidro-hatred/comment-page-1/#comment-181619</link>
		<dc:creator>feingarden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 22:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DOH!  Shoulda known.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DOH!  Shoulda known.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/05/05/more-totally-unjustified-vidro-hatred/comment-page-1/#comment-181352</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 20:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because bench players are selected for different reasons than starters.  Most teams have a guy in Triple-A who can hit at a lot of positions, but managers prefer to have speedy/defensive types playing utility roles on their 25 man roster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because bench players are selected for different reasons than starters.  Most teams have a guy in Triple-A who can hit at a lot of positions, but managers prefer to have speedy/defensive types playing utility roles on their 25 man roster.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/05/05/more-totally-unjustified-vidro-hatred/comment-page-1/#comment-181351</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 20:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why don&#039;t BP take replacement level to be &#039;the average of everyone playing a position beneath the top 30 in at-bats&#039;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t BP take replacement level to be &#8216;the average of everyone playing a position beneath the top 30 in at-bats&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/05/05/more-totally-unjustified-vidro-hatred/comment-page-1/#comment-181350</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 19:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_over_replacement_player</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_over_replacement_player" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_over_replacement_player</a></p>
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		<title>By: feingarden</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/05/05/more-totally-unjustified-vidro-hatred/comment-page-1/#comment-181349</link>
		<dc:creator>feingarden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 19:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DMZ - One line of your initial post exposes what is proving to be my complete ignorance of a sport I&#039;ve followed for many years.  Specifically, I&#039;d like to know a) how &quot;replacement level&quot; is defined and b) how .307/.358/.376 translates into runs over/under replacement level.  I&#039;m sure there is a &quot;stats for idiots&quot; page somewhere that you can refer me to, and I&#039;d be grateful.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DMZ &#8211; One line of your initial post exposes what is proving to be my complete ignorance of a sport I&#8217;ve followed for many years.  Specifically, I&#8217;d like to know a) how &#8220;replacement level&#8221; is defined and b) how .307/.358/.376 translates into runs over/under replacement level.  I&#8217;m sure there is a &#8220;stats for idiots&#8221; page somewhere that you can refer me to, and I&#8217;d be grateful.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/05/05/more-totally-unjustified-vidro-hatred/comment-page-1/#comment-181348</link>
		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 19:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey! Turbo is Rizzsy&#039;s &lt;em&gt;Pick To Click&lt;/em&gt; today!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey! Turbo is Rizzsy&#8217;s <em>Pick To Click</em> today!</p>
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		<title>By: MtGrizzly</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/05/05/more-totally-unjustified-vidro-hatred/comment-page-1/#comment-181346</link>
		<dc:creator>MtGrizzly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 18:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So instead of the second coming of Gar, what we&#039;ve really got is the second coming of Felix Fermin?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So instead of the second coming of Gar, what we&#8217;ve really got is the second coming of Felix Fermin?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul B</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/05/05/more-totally-unjustified-vidro-hatred/comment-page-1/#comment-181345</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 18:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As we know, who is in the lineup is more important than the order.  Having said that, I&#039;d be looking closely at OBP when setting a lineup.

Unfortunately, not counting Ellison or Burke, Vidro is doing the best in getting on base amongst the M hackandslashers.

So, it&#039;s not like there are lots of good choices for the top and middle of this lineup.

Also, Hargrove, unfortunately, uses BA combined with a misguided belief in &quot;protection&quot; when setting his lineup.  So don&#039;t look for any creative changes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As we know, who is in the lineup is more important than the order.  Having said that, I&#8217;d be looking closely at OBP when setting a lineup.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, not counting Ellison or Burke, Vidro is doing the best in getting on base amongst the M hackandslashers.</p>
<p>So, it&#8217;s not like there are lots of good choices for the top and middle of this lineup.</p>
<p>Also, Hargrove, unfortunately, uses BA combined with a misguided belief in &#8220;protection&#8221; when setting his lineup.  So don&#8217;t look for any creative changes.</p>
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		<title>By: Mariner Fan in CO Exile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mariner Fan in CO Exile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 17:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although you&#039;ve obviously tried to cut such comments off at the pass, prepare for the &quot;You are just a Mariner hater, and good job giving other teams the recipe to stop Vidro! We&#039;ve taken 1 of 2 from the freakin Yankees in the Bronx with sucky pitching&quot; comments.  

Nice analysis of what many of us have intuitively felt is &quot;lucky&quot; hitting.  I&#039;ve watched his extra base numbers closely for some time, and usually weep afterward.  In yesterday&#039;s game, he almost got thrown out going from 1st to 2nd on a Mariners hit that dropped in. Granted he probably thought the ball was going to be caught, but it was close to not being close.  I can live with a guy who runs well trying to turn a play into an extra base and not making it or nearly getting thrown out.  I can&#039;t live with a guy hitting a routine single and nearly getting thrown out when a league average hitter would be safe by a mile or a guy trying to simply advance one base on an average hit and still being a liability for a fiedler&#039;s choice.  It&#039;s laughable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although you&#8217;ve obviously tried to cut such comments off at the pass, prepare for the &#8220;You are just a Mariner hater, and good job giving other teams the recipe to stop Vidro! We&#8217;ve taken 1 of 2 from the freakin Yankees in the Bronx with sucky pitching&#8221; comments.  </p>
<p>Nice analysis of what many of us have intuitively felt is &#8220;lucky&#8221; hitting.  I&#8217;ve watched his extra base numbers closely for some time, and usually weep afterward.  In yesterday&#8217;s game, he almost got thrown out going from 1st to 2nd on a Mariners hit that dropped in. Granted he probably thought the ball was going to be caught, but it was close to not being close.  I can live with a guy who runs well trying to turn a play into an extra base and not making it or nearly getting thrown out.  I can&#8217;t live with a guy hitting a routine single and nearly getting thrown out when a league average hitter would be safe by a mile or a guy trying to simply advance one base on an average hit and still being a liability for a fiedler&#8217;s choice.  It&#8217;s laughable.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 17:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s what should happen and what will happen.  What should happen is that Vidro, Weaver &amp; Sexson should all be gone getting whatever (probably nothing) for them.  Let Baek or Woods pitch and play Broussard at first, Wlad in LF with Raul converting to DH.

What will happen is that we won&#039;t be far enough out of it to fire Hargrove or trade Sexson.  Probably Weaver won&#039;t last too long, but I bet they send him to the bullpen rather than release him.  

There&#039;s definitely signs of life and there&#039;s been some enjoyable games but I still think the most realistic goal would be to finish over .500  And unless the Angels pitching staff gets caught on a Minnesota Vikings Style Cruise Ship together, that&#039;s not going to be enough to win our division.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s what should happen and what will happen.  What should happen is that Vidro, Weaver &amp; Sexson should all be gone getting whatever (probably nothing) for them.  Let Baek or Woods pitch and play Broussard at first, Wlad in LF with Raul converting to DH.</p>
<p>What will happen is that we won&#8217;t be far enough out of it to fire Hargrove or trade Sexson.  Probably Weaver won&#8217;t last too long, but I bet they send him to the bullpen rather than release him.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s definitely signs of life and there&#8217;s been some enjoyable games but I still think the most realistic goal would be to finish over .500  And unless the Angels pitching staff gets caught on a Minnesota Vikings Style Cruise Ship together, that&#8217;s not going to be enough to win our division.</p>
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