Game 33, Yankees at Mariners
Andy Pettitte (two ts twice) v Horacio Ramirez. 1:05 FSN.
The Yankees run the same lineup out twice, the M’s sub Burke in for Johjima.
Courtesy of Fangraphs, which I’ve been playing around with since Dave proved a particularly interesting point yesterday:
Pettitte: 5.65 K/9 3.98 BB/9 0.42 HR/9 16.5% line drives
HoRam: 3.46 K/9 4.85 BB/9 .69 HR/9 22.4% line drives
Team offenses, by rank:
AVG: Yankees 3rd, Mariners 12th
OBP: Yankees 3rd, Mariners 23rd
SLG: Yankees 11th, Mariners 14th
So a really good offense, particularly adept at hitting for average and drawing walks, faces a pitcher who gives up a lot of walks and pitches to contact, as they say in the broadcasts.
Meanwhile, an impatient team with decent contact hitters who have some power but can’t draw walks face a groundball pitcher who doesn’t give up home runs.
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not to mention that Andy Pettite has ‘escapability’, according to Ken Singleton.
Bet your Fangraphs can’t graph that.
I wish all the M’s fanbase had escapability. That would be awesome.
“It looks like a real jam, the Mariners are said to have made a 10y, $900m offer to Sean Casey, and — I’m hearing now that the Mariners have entirely restructured their ownership group, and appointed a new president and CEO! Wow, what a turn of events.”
Does Sean Casey have the necessary intangibles to be the face of the franchise, though?
Ryan Doumit, on the other hand…
So, what’s the prediction for today? 41-2?
Did I hear right? Willie’s off today to welcome a little bundle of grit into the world? He’ll finally get that chance to play catcher.
It was inevitable: we’re often reminded how versatile he is, and how he can start at any position.
Let’s all contemplate how many positions could have led to this very event!
The site redesign seems to have had quite the oppressive effect on the number of comments.
I know! Shocking!
Ramirez should only pitch at home. His starts on the road can be given to Parque or Campillo.
It is Mother’s Day; I’m sure all the regular posters have taken their mothers to brunch.
*crickets chirping*
Okay, how about when the blog exploded, they thought it was permanent and scampered off like bunnies?
Me, I think it’s because comments take up more vertical space now and are more annoying to scroll through. But perhaps this is seen as a positive. Go, little server, go!
Run, you galloping giraffe! Oh, well, a single.
I’m so glad to see that Pettitte has scaled back on that ridiculous habit of glaring down the hitters from under his cap brim like some Texas Dracula. I literally would plan his death after watching six innings of that.
Then again, he’s not as good as he used to be. Co-wink-a-dink?
A hit, another hit!
Heh. I’m sorry, but those pink arm bands and undershirts just look dorky.
I wonder if that’s the case.
Yeah breast cancer sure is dorky.
What are you doing for cancer awareness?
What is your problem? Saying that the bats and uniforms look dorky in no way implies she’s wishing breast cancer on people.
Silly me… I thought my “I’m sorry, but…” was a tacit recognition that the pink gear was for a good purpose.
Must keep reminding myself. Be more obvious. Be more obvious. Be more obvious. And repetitive.
your new template looks dorky.
Well, at least it wasn’t a double play. *sigh*
I dunno, I like the pink bats. They glow!
Also, since my paternal grandmother, maternal grandmother, and mother all had breast cancer, you will probably get to feel like karma has struck me down in about thirty years.
Yeah, well, why don’t you improve it, instead of whining?
then you should be happy they’re wearing pink armbands since more women will be getting mammograms.
I didn’t say I wished cancer on the template I just said it’s dorky.
BEAUTEOUS!
Zowie!
Wow. Sweet. I, uh, would like to see HoRam lower his ERA by a 9-inning 0.00 performance tonight.
Man, they’re extending Sexy like Stretch Armstrong!
Can you make the template pink?
Thank goodness Willie defined “throwing the leather” for us in the pre-game, or I’d have no idea what Dave’s talking about.
Throwing the leather sounds a bit pervy, imo.
Another reason to hate the Yankees! They want women to die of cancer!
Oh. So does Ichiro. Never mind.
Puerto Rico counts as a country for purposes of the trivia question?
Why not just make up random answers?
“How many players on the 25-man roster are aliens from other planets?”
“7.”
Ha! Another infield hit for Vidro. Awesome. And… we’re in the lead.
they have an olympic team, they should count.
It’s a pitcher’s duel!
And I’m not surprised to hear A-rod’s a momma’s boy, not one bit.
Boo yah!
Wasn’t it A-Rod’s Momma who convinced him to take the initial offer out of high school from the M’s and not pull what would later be known as a JD Drew? Regardless of what happened later, I’ll always love A-Rod’s Momma.
NICE! Beautiful bunt!
I’m reluctant to say this, but that was nice bunt
Wow, it’s like Hargrove’s thinking…and planning…instead of letting hitters hack away with no outs and runners on until there are three outs.
and that was some crappy base running.
Any chance they make Ho-Ram a home only starter?….These soft lefties kill in the Safe.
Stellar!
29. I believe the term was “flashing the leather,”–no less pervy, but makes me think back to all of our favorite Berman story.
Who is the guy wearing HoRam’s uniform and can we keep him?
Vidro is so slow. I see it time and time again, and I’m still amazed.
I should do a short mini-analysis of why the pitching match favors the other team every game thread.
That was a nice play there by Pettitte, when you think about how far he had to go, then make a stop and a good throw to first. Made it look easy.
Does Ho-Ram = J-Wash light? J-Wash is excellent at home and average on the road…Ho-Rom = Good at home and bad on the road… I think its time for the M’s to really focus on Ramirez pitching at home primarily.
Ho:
1 BB, O K
Now other teams know how it feels to be us.
#44: Great, now you’ve given me the instant image of dudes in leather underwear who ‘forget’ to pull up their flies. Not something I want to see connected with the name Willie Bloomquist in any way.
See, even Richie got closer to first base than Vidro before being thrown out on that little dribbler.
7 hits through five innings and only 2 runs. We’re flirting with tossing away a game we should win.
I know we floated the Moyer-as-home-starter idea, for a number of really good reasons, but — there’s just no way that the Mariners, as presently constituted, can carry a home starter this year for every pitcher on their roster who appears better at home than on the road.
There’s just no way. They don’t have the people, they don’t have the schedule, they don’t have the roster room.
Plus, all small sample size warings apply.
Uhh, if they gave me 150 guesses as to who that was a bobblehead of, I don’t think I’d ever get to Felix.
DMZ- I agree and doubt they will do it to the fullest. But would it be that hard to influence it a couple of starts?.. Perhaps with he and Weaver or a Weaver replacement moving around a couple of times?
They only tossed away one run. Now it’s time to load the bases with no outs and get nothing….oh, wait, we’re going to go three up, three down, quietly.
Didn’t I hear some interest in Byung-Hyun Kim in a previous discussion? He’s gone to the Marlins.
A hit! Sort of! Error on Jeter; always sweet.
Ichiro is such a show-off!
Anyone else enjoying the Griffey re-emergence through the MLB package…..This guy is certainly not done!
.340 BA with +1000 ops.
Weaver replacement? Didn’t you guys hear, Weaver is returning to the rotation in a couple of weeks (according to Hargrove-Bavasi). Yay!!
OMG USING GOOD RELIEVER TO GET OUT OF JAM!!!
Why bring Reitsma at this moment? I don’t get it.
You mean Mateo’s back?
I loved Ichiro’s response to the likeness of his bobblehead: “Better than the last six years.”
nice 6-3 DP; timely sub by Hargrove. We might actually win this game. If A’s lose, it’ll put us in sole 2nd place heading into this week’s Angels series (in which Felix is returning). I’m slightly optimistic.
6.1 IP, 5 H, 1 BB, 1 K = 25 batters faced, 23 balls put into play. That’s a .217 average on balls in play.
HoRam should be back in the clubhouse setting up thank-you presents for his defense.
jason davis?
Woohooo!!!
Okay, but what did they give up?
Uhh, if they’re using Jason Davis in late game situations, we’re punting the season.
Who in the world did we trade.
Apparently, trade doesn’t mean what I thought it meant.
ptbnl
who is davis and what did we give up for him? mateo? weaver?
oh, god who did we send
I’m hoping it’s Julio Mateo.
I dread to think. Any chance it was Weaver?
HoRam owes Yuni a steak for sure.
Jason Davis “has a big arm”, whatever that means. Can’t find shirts that fit?
A big arm like Hellboy?
Jason Davis throws hard, is something of a groundball guy, but lacks command or an outpitch. He’s a failed starter turned mediocre middle reliever who Cleveland didn’t need because of their depth of relievers.
Since he was DFA’d last week, he shouldn’t have cost much, but never put it past the M’s to give up something of value for him.
I predict that Weaver will be sent to Tacoma on a rehab assignment, get shelled, go on the DL some more, get sent to Memphis on a rehab assignment, get shelled, etc. When he gets shelled in Everett, he will be DFA’s, and the Red Sox will pick him up, and he will win the final game of the World Series against the Braves. The M’s will then re-sign him for 9 million.
Also, I believe you can’t trade guys on the DL, so Weaver’s got a two-week reprieve.
Doesn’t sound like we’re going to get jobbed, then, but it makes me nervous when Bavasi deals with Shapiro.
so if he is going to be a hard-throwing late inning guy, does that mean that morrow is going to be moved to the rotation or going down to be a starter? and why do we seem to only deal with cleveland and washington…
I’m guessing the swap is for everyone’s favorite minor leaguer: PTBNL.
Knowing Bavasi, he probably traded Felix for Davis.
Rotoworld seems to think the Mariners are “surrendering a solid prospect” supposedly since there were a lot of team interested in Davis. I sure hope not.
Ahh to have good lefty in the bullpen
Lets hope Morrow doesnt crap all over hisself.
it is everyone’s favorite , ptnbl
For what it’s worth…
“Cards Interested In Weaver?
According to Viva El Birdos, Walt Jocketty called Bill Bavasi yesterday, willing to take Jeff Weaver off the Ms’ hands for salary relief. Yahoo’s Tim Brown believes the Cards would only have to pick up about $2MM of Weaver’s $8MM salary in a deal. However, Weaver later landed on the DL with shoulder tendinitis. Weaver had made six starts for the Mariners, losing all of them and allowing at least seven hits in each.
Previous speculation had involved the Mariners releasing Weaver. The Cardinals offered Weaver $6MM over two years plus incentives, and the Pirates were also interested last winter.”
a breaking ball strike by morrow…no way…
look at morrows glove shake
Was that a second pitch from Morrow? 71 miles an hour?
91 was from mlbtraderumors.com
this might end badly…
this might end well…
Bring in Putz!
If that’s the case I have a sneaking suspicion who it may be….
Wasn’t Feierabend supposed to start for Tacoma yesterday? Brad Thomas made the start instead. And Jason Mackintosh went today.
mamamia! c’mon kid…get this fucker out!
91. If there’s anything to that, I would think that it would be worth looking at. Hell, the first team that offers more than a used left handed 1st baseman’s mitt, and a pair of fungo bats can have him =)
Sorry, 99 is in response to 87.
This feels pretty epic.
I so happy we keep on making other teams better while collectively “trying” to improve our pitching. Can we just be smart and trade for Griffey and make Seattle a better place for baseball.
Morrow SICK
Morrow!!!!!!
best. strikeout. ever.
Swwwwwweeeeeet!!
Morrow!
oh shi…
OK, that was pretty spectacular.
Struck out on ball 4.
A-rod? Your Momma’s on the phone; she wants to kick your ass.
how bad was a-rod in the series? one hit? i love it!
A-Rod didn’t come through with the game on the line?
Must have mistaken today for the playoffs
I like that Morrow throws hard, but I wish it wasn’t the only thing that was mentioned about him on the broadcast. If he didn’t locate that last 95 mph fastball the Mariners could be looking at a deficit here.
Dave or DMZ: Would Feierabend for Davis be another incompetent Bavasi move?
They should make Richie use a pink bat all the time.
Morrow’s 97mph fastball is fierce. He’s got the heat to work with. Now, he needs to add a dependable splitter and offspeed pitch and you’re looking at a top flight starter. M’s drafted him over Lincecum for a reason.
is sexson finally waking up? and the return of the king…angels and As lose today…above .500 with felix out…put the nooses away boys and girls…we have ourselves a race…
funk single
Okay, as Baker says David was acquired for a PTBNL, I now find out Feierabend’s only sitting a couple days after suffering some shoulder tightness the day before. nm.
No way in heck even bad bald Bill would be dumb enough to give up Feirerbend for Davis.
Uh…I hope
Wouldn’t Feirabend be more than a PTBNL? It seems like PTBNL are usually low grade players. Of course, we are talking about Bavasi, so who knows.
Feierabend was scratched due to forearm tightness – he goes Tuesday. He’s not the PTBNL.
I am surprised Beltre didn’t swing at that.
c’mon, insurance!
Or not. Sigh.
Seeing it again, I don’t think A-Rod did strike out on ball 4. I think that was on the outside corner.
Hey Yanks – You think you’re so big with your in-game announcement by Rah-Jah? Well we’ve got your number! We’ll just announce Jason Davis when we play you at Safeco. He’s got a Big Arm! Yeah!
Ha!
Putz!
I don’t care what anyone says there is a reason why Putz is not throwing his fork ball.
Posada…
3 for 4 with “only” TWO dingers off of Putz
If Putz gets him out here, the Yanks may as well just surrender before their last out
If ever there was a time to rediscover his “grip,” now would be it.
132. Supposedly it is because he can’t control it anymore. Without it, he is much less fearsome.
Uh oh, Sims knows their names now.
Walking Posada would not necessarily be a bad move.
there it is!!!!
Looks like he found his splitter
Splitter!!!!!!
funk split…
Yes!
so is Putz just hurling fastball after fastball after fastball up there?
Striking out Posada was a much better move.
NICE PITCH!
I’m not sure that was a splitter. That had a different break than his usual splitter. That looked more like a diving two-seamer.
Oh, that’s where it’s been. Naughty, naughty splitter.
doh, obviously not then!
Putz! Splitter!
How about that? He was setting him up the whole time, right?
Dave, so what do you make of that?
Putz!
149. The whole season.
Splitter or not that was filthy.
#135: I can’t imagine much that would be more fearsome than a pitcher throwing a 90mph pitch towards me, after he’s announced he can no longer control it. Though that, and a lack of talent, may be why I’m commenting rather than playing.
98 MPH!!!!
Gameday doesn’t think much of the umpire on Mientkwicz.
3 Ks in the 9th in a one run game!
Yeah!!!!
“This team ain’t so fucking bad!”
JJ looked pretty solid today…are there still rumors out about him being hurt and pitching through the pain?
Does Davis take Mateo’s roster spot?
Don’t forget Felix is coming back to the roster…
#161: I believe so, too bad it took a domestic violence arrest to finally have them see the light.
162. Felix takes Weaver’s spot. Baek is the new 5th starter. I hope.
I was at the game today, and, during the pitching change that brought in Morrow, it sure appeared that Beltre was angry at Lopez for teasing him (i.e., tryint to swipe his glove). You could tell that Adrian, who swung his glove hand at Jose, was mad. Beltre was so hot that Sexson came over and steered him away from Lopez. After Betancourt playfully swatted at Beltre’s cap, Adrian went back to his position. Yuni and Jose were smiling, but Adrian definitely was ticked off. Did anyone else at the game notice this strange turn of events, and is there some bad blood on this team (especially by Beltre, who was the butt of a joke in New York when they let him sleep through a bus ride.)?
Ooops, the word should have been “trying” not “tryint”.
114. bakomariner Says: “how bad was a-rod in the series? one hit?
The BBtN crew covered the Yanks/M’s game at the end of their pre-Sunday-night-game wrapup. It seemed like they were embarrassed for the Yanks, b/c they didn’t even mention that the M’s took the series.
They DID show A-Rod’s high throw, and him striking out against Morrow, but went on to praise the wonderful week he and Jeter had.
And oh, yeah, Betancourt and Ibanez are two of the best-kept secrets in baseball (and why is that, you dumb ESPN dorks? Is it because you never watch Mariners games??????)
165. That stuff happens over the course of the season. I wouldn’t read too far into it.
168–Yeah maybe in the clubhouse or dugout, but does it occur right out in the middle of the diamond in front of 46,000 people? I have been going to Mariners games since 1979, and I can’t remember the last time I saw teammates go at it (not counting Billy Martin and Reggie Jackson in Fenway on national TV in 1978).
A week or so ago, Putz was asked about not throwing the spitter, and his response was that he didn’t want to speed up the batters’ bats when they still weren’t getting to his fastball. Not sure what that means, but I’m sure after he gets hit hard a couple times he’ll probably throw it a lot more. Personally I don’t care if him or Morrow through 100% fastballs if it results in a K or out.
My favorite was the ‘95 we finished off the Angels in the 1-game playoff and Hudler and Langston got into it in the dugout.
#171–You are right. Another good one that comes to mind was in the Kingdome in July 1987 when Dick Williams and Mark Langston got in each other’s faces after Langston imploded late in a big game against Minnesota. The camera caught Langston and Williams heatedlyjawing in a corridor. I believe it was this game that Dick cites as showing Mark did not have “gut one.”
About the Beltre bad blood: I was at the game too, and I’m pretty sure it was nothing. They were talking after the game and smiling, too. I didn’t see him get pissed off, but later in the game they were cool, it seemed. That infield does get along pretty well, you always see the 4 of them joking around. If anyone’s the odd man out, it’s Sexson. Bet and Lopez seem to be best buds, though.
Unbelievable experience today. While waiting for a breakfast table at the Easy Street Cafe in West Seattle this morning, a young woman walked up to me and asked, “Would you like some Mariners tickets to today’s game?”
“Say wha?” I stammered. “I mean, where are the seats?” {thinking she was scalping). She showed them to me at they were sec. 117, row 26 — pretty much in a direct line behind the 3rd-1st base line on the right field side. In other words, pretty darned good seats.
“Well,” I said, “these are nice tickets. What are you asking for them.”
“Oh, nothing,” she says, “I got them from a client for nothing and I haven’t been able to to find anyone who wants to go and you looked like a baseball fan so if you want them, enjoy!”
You could have knocked me over with a feather and I took the tickets with profuse thanks. Turns out they weren’t even stolen or counterfeit (suspicious lawyer that I am) So the wife and I got to see Horrible Ho-Ram pitch the game of the year (for him, anyway) against the Yankees, Grover manage the bullpen with some good sense and Putz punch their lights out in the 9th.
Talk about your Mother’s Day. Good thing my wife likes baseball although she did think the pink bats sucked..
#173–Something had to be going on in the Eighth Inning because Sexson had to take Beltre by the jersey and turn him away from Lopez. This was decidely unusual, and Beltre’s response was not of the type associated with normal horseplay.
175 – I took a lot of pictures in this game, and looking at them, I have a couple from about this time. It doesn’t involve Sexson pulling Beltre away or anything, but it looks like Betancourt is talking up a storm to Beltre and Beltre ignoring them at the time. Lopez and Bet were standing side to side talking to Beltre, and Sexson was trying to play catch with them.
Regarding Lopez / Betancourt / Beltre… I remember an incident last year where it looked like Beltre was pissed off as hell against either Pentland or Lopez and Felix got between them.
But later on, and never again until today, did it seem like there was anythin to it. So I’m guessing today was more of the same. I think Beltre was just a bad sport about a prank or something. I dobut there’s anything going on. Sportswriters would be all over it if there was.
According to the Associated Press, even Ramirez knows his “success” today was purely a grand Safeco illusion:
“SEATTLE (AP) — Alex Rodriguez hit a long drive off Horacio Ramirez, trying with one swing to snap the New York Yankees out of their offensive funk.
Instead, the deep fly landed in center fielder Ichiro Suzuki’s glove and reminded Ramirez how thankful he is to pitch at spacious Safeco Field.
Ramirez pitched effectively into the seventh inning before four relievers stymied New York the rest of the way, and the Seattle Mariners edged the Yankees 2-1 on Sunday.
The loss left New York a season-high eight games behind first-place Boston in the AL East.
Ramirez (3-2) improved to 3-0 with a 1.47 ERA in three starts at home this season. He is 0-2 with a 13.17 ERA on the road.
Why the difference?
“The dimensions,” Ramirez said. “I like that Alex can hit the ball pretty good to right-center and Ichiro caught it on the warning track.
“I wish I could pitch every game here.”
#177-Good memory about the incident from last year. #176–Sexson tugged Beltre away right before they started playing catch. All the infielders were standing behind and to the first base side of the mound.
#178-This is why I just hate getting flyball pitchers, because you can’t pitch EVERY game at Safeco Field.
(Note: Yes, I do know Ramirez is a groundball pitcher, or at least is considered that. I’m just making a point.)
DMZ, I sent a few “patches.” I take it if they don’t show up, they sucked?
I haven’t gotten to round two is all.
well, that was more fun, what I got to see of it.
hey, I see that Sidney Ponson is now available….
#4 Steve T Says:
[quote]So, what’s the prediction for today? 41-2?
May 13th, 2007 at 1:12 pm[/quote]
LOL, only 40 runs off.
The next 2 weeks are going to be key. 6 games against division leader LAA, and 6 games vs. mediocre TB + horrible KC.
174 – almost the same exact thing happened to me on Saturday but I ended up with 11 rows back behind home plate.
That was not one of my better predictions. Well, actually, it’s about average for me. I apologize for the low quality of my comments, and promise to try to do better. Grade: D+.