Weaver Makes Rehab Start?
Dave · June 7, 2007 at 9:12 pm · Filed Under Mariners
So, I know Jeff Weaver is starting for the M’s on Saturday, but when looking at the minor league box scores tonight and noticing that the Rainiers currently trail the Colorado Springs Sky Sox 21-11 in the top of the 8th inning, my first thought was “hey, they got Weaver to go on a rehab start after all”.
But no, it was just Jake Woods, Juan Sandoval, and Jamie Cerda taking the pounding.
Also, on a night where the two teams have combined for 36 hits, Jeff Clement is 0 for 3. Awesome.
Major League ready outfielder Adam Jones is 4-4 with 2 homers, though.
Well we know they probably won’t DFA Raul. Is it wrong for me to wish he’d pull a hammy? Even if Raul did go down we’d see someone else other than Jones making LF starts. I think Hargrove has his mind made up on Jones. ’08 can’t come soon enough….
On the bright side, Clement did have a couple of long balls the other night.
Uncle!
Maybe OT, but [deleted, off-topic]
I an’t remember seeing a AAA player tearing the cover off the ball like AJ has. If only we could DFA…
I’m terrified that all Jones’ acheivements do in the eyes of M’s brass is pump up his trade value.
Clement has had a crazy good June so far though, after having a solid May.
Can’t wait to see him next Monday … gonna go to the game in Portland with the Mariner Housewife.
Please don’t be traded before then.
The M’s would have to be blown away to trade Adam Jones. It’s very, very unlikely.
It certainly won’t happen anytime soon.
Jones is, at worst, the Mariners “back up plan” in case they don’t keep Ichiro. They know he’s their centerfielder of the future.
Of course, they could keep Ichiro, move him back to his beloved right field, and still have Jones out in CF. It’s a nice dream…
I can’t remember seeing a AAA player tearing the cover off the ball like AJ has.
Ehh – Jones is obviously having a good year, but this isn’t some out-of-this-world season. James Loney hit .380/.430/.546 for Las Vegas last year. Matt Kemp hit .368/.422/.560, and this year, is following it up with a .335/.375/.551 season. Howie Kendrick hit .369/.408/.631 last year.
It’s pretty common for good hitters to tear up the PCL.
Okay, you made me give off a cruel roar of laughter when I read the first paragraph.
It was probably helped by the jumbo sized rum and coke, but I’ll be weeping soon enough when Weaver’s back on the mound. Might as well get my yucks now.
Raul looks absolutely awful when he hits, as though his arms are made of straw. I don’t wish anyone ill, but with half of the league’s players pulling a hammy this season, why, with all that is holy, can’t he???
I watch baseball for exciting players. Jones = Exciting in a good way. Raul = exciting in a bad way.
Is Jones’ (good) performance going to have any effect on the chances Ichiro will be traded midseason?
11: Sure, Jones isn’t having a historically good season or anything, but Las Vegas and Salt Lake are both significantly better hitting environments than Cheney.
I know you know that, but just comparing raw lines is a little misleading in the case of those 3 players vs. Jones’ 07 to date.
Now, if you want someone who’s REALLY torn up the PCL this year, take a look at Ryan Braun: .342/.418/.701 through the first month and a half or so.
Glad to see the Rockies haven’t loaned the Sky Sox their humidor yet.
Also, Clement’s funny like that: during a high scoring contest, everyone else will be having a big night, and then he’ll go 0 for 3 or 1 for 4. It’d odd. However, his performance has improved dramatically over the last 4-5 weeks, which is encouraging.
Can we trade Jose Guillen? Ibanez realistically is the “face of the franchise” now. Adam Jones would make a fine right fielder.
hey, at least it won’t be like letting Edgar tear up the minors for a couple years with fans on the sidelines watching and waiting.
it … uh, it won’t be like that, right? right?!?!
Clement hit two homers in a game the other day.
I think the M’s recent run of form, to the point where we are (at least theoretically) in contention for a post season berth, should see off speculation about trading Ichiro.
No disrespect to Raul, who has in his time been a fine hitter for the Mariners, but how could you look at this lineup, with its single megastar, and think Ibanez is the face of the franchise?
well, as Raul hasn’t had to sit with either a bad back or a messed up shoulder, so he prob. would still get to play, bad hammy or no …
I wouldn’t trade Guillen, if only because he’s been the only truly justifiable off-season pickup at this time, and also because if, come August, our only chance of making the playoffs is if John Lackey mysteriously drops dead – well, there would be a realistic chance of John Lackey mysteriously dropping dead then, as long as Guillen is around. Also he’s a much better hitter than Raul and has a cannon.
If we were “set” on keeping Raul even if only for “face of the franchise” sake, couldn’t we DH him or something (i mean, he can’t be worse than Vidro, right?) and let Jones get some time in Left? Maybe someone with an immediate need for a bench hitter even takes Vidro in a trade packaged with one of the multitude of mediocre AAA bullpen prospects?
I obviously don’t know anything about how to achieve this, but it seems like if the Mariners have two desperate needs at this point (i.e things that need to happen right now, as opposed to waiting a month or two), one of them has to be getting a good starting pitcher, and the other has to be getting Adam Jones some playing time sooner rather than later – both have vast implications on the playoff race and the future of the team.
couldn’t we DH him or something (i mean, he can’t be worse than Vidro, right?)
Vidro .290 .344 .357
Raul .278 .336 .376
ewwwww.
Major League ready outfielder Adam Jones
Adam Jones, meet Edgar Martinez.
I don’t buy that Ibanez has “the face of the franchise” written in a stone tablet contract. The M’s can want him to be, but even if they want to hand some kind of phony “grit” label on him he’d have to do something like be fast enough to beat out a few infield hits or steal some bases, or hit 300 or something impressive to the superficial fan.
The M’s aren’t good judges of talent, but even they are going to notice that a guy on pace to hit 2 home runs while playing bad defense and posting a batting average that isn’t anything to write home about isn’t a fan draw.
Some names are starting to pop up as some teams are falling out of contention, but is there really anything the Ms can do midseason to improve the team? (especially in terms of starting pitching)
I just realized that the pre-Kansas City Raul has returned the M’s! I think we need to send him back to KC for a year to get his groove back!
In reality, Raul has never been a GREAT hitter. He’s been good for 5 of the past 6 years and outstanding last year. I think the “face of the organization” label came because he signed for a reasonable amount of money to play with the M’s rather than try to GOUGE the organization for top dollar.
“The M’s would have to be blown away to trade Adam Jones. It’s very, very unlikely”
Uh, Dave, they were blown away by HoRam for Soriano…
1. Weaver should’ve been forced to make a rehab start or two. Now he gets one more chance – PERIOD.
2. Bring up Jones to replace Ellison. See what happens with Ichiro, then make a decision.
So easy a caveman can do it.
Adam Jones, meet Edgar Martinez.
Of course Jones needs to get his shot. But he is still just 21 years old. Gar didn’t get called up for good til he was 27. Let’s not get too worked up about this yet.
No, no, no, don’t bring Jones up to replace Ellison. Jones needs to play.
How is it a good idea to bring up Jones to replace Ellison?
I would rather have Jones ripping it up in Tacoma then sitting on a bench the rest of the year.
The guy to trade to make room for Jones would be Guillen, but it would be unlikely to happen, especially while the M’s remain at least nominally in contention. There probably is not a strong market for Guillen, as the Twins are really the only contender desperate for a righty corner outfielder. Hargrove would strongly oppose replacing one of his best hitters for a rookie he would not play last year (and Bavasi is not the type to force such a big move on Hargrove). And considering Guillen’s option for next year is reasonable, the front office may want to keep him around as either offseason trade bait (if Ichiro stays) or next year’s starting RF (so the team would not have to fill two OF holes if Ichiro leaves).
I wouldn’t mind keeping Guillen, he has been one of the best players on the team this year.
Uh, so do we root for Weaver to have a good game, or to have a (more likely) terrible game? I’m not sure which would be the best for the team in regards to the rest of the season…
24 – Mickey
“The M’s aren’t good judges of talent, but even they are going to notice that a guy on pace to hit 2 home runs while playing bad defense and posting a batting average that isn’t anything to write home about isn’t a fan draw”
Are you new around here? New to Seattle? I believe you actually think they’ll notice.
33 – If Weaver came out throwing several MPH faster than he was before, and he has a good outing, and it looks like he would be a decent bottom of the order starter the rest of the season that would be a good thing.
Or, if he came out with the same old crap, and got knocked out in the first inning, and the M’s relesed him, that would be a good thing.
Anything in between would be a bad thing.
Damn it, get Adam Jones up already. If you wanted a perfect #2 hitter, it could very well be him. Of course the problem is our lineup is right-handed heavy as it is and you’d have to trade the “heart and soul of the clubhouse” in Rauuuuuuuuuul. In theory you could trade Guillen and Sexson for left-handed hitters and leave the rest of the lineup in tact and the worst that would happen is you have two right handers hitting in a row at the 8 and 9 holes. But the thing is, who would take Richie Sexson and why would you want to trade Guillen after the kind of year he’s had so far?
This would be the theoritical lineup with: Ibanez, Sexson, and Guillen gone and Jones in, btw.
CF Ichiro-L
LF/RF Jones-R
LH power hitter who can also hit for average
2B Lopez-R
LH power hitter who can also hit for average
3B Beltre-R
DH Turbo-S
C Johjima-R
SS Yuni-R
The missing positions would be LF/RF and 1B.
*Clement could take the #7 hole when he comes up in ’08 or ’09 and Vidro or some other switch hitter could bat in the 9 hole.
How do you get two LH power hitters who can also hit for average for one aging RH power hitter who can hit for an OK average and another RH power hitter who can’t hit his way out of a paper bag with one of the biggest contracts in baseball?
Or they could start Broussard for his potential average and lefthanded-ness and focus on getting a ringer left handed power/average hitting outfielder, but its not like those guys are jumping out of the woodwork, even fewer in exchange for Sexson.
#38: Who said those 2 lefite power hitters would come in by trades? I’d imagine we’d try and get them in the free agent market.