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	<title>Comments on: Adam Jones Is Still Ready For The Majors</title>
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		<title>By: Wishhiker</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/06/13/adam-jones-is-still-ready-for-the-majors/comment-page-2/#comment-197639</link>
		<dc:creator>Wishhiker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...Offensively and Ibanez defensively</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;Offensively and Ibanez defensively</p>
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		<title>By: Wishhiker</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/06/13/adam-jones-is-still-ready-for-the-majors/comment-page-2/#comment-197637</link>
		<dc:creator>Wishhiker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s alot closer to &quot;all the way there&quot; than Vidro...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s alot closer to &#8220;all the way there&#8221; than Vidro&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nathaniel dawson</title>
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		<dc:creator>nathaniel dawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 05:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;debaser Says: 

He’s 21, in AAA, playing in one of the toughest hitters parks in the league (and according to a recent BP article, one of the toughest places to hit in all the minors), and showing real improvement in the field and in his triple-slash line. However, his K/AB and K/BB rate has stayed the same the last three years (and this year even shows a tad bit of regression, albeit very slight). His develpoment is legit, but I’m still not convinced he’s all the way there yet.&lt;/i&gt;

He probably won&#039;t be all the way there yet for 5-6 years. Most players don&#039;t reach their peak level of play till there in their mid to late 20&#039;s.</description>
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<p>He’s 21, in AAA, playing in one of the toughest hitters parks in the league (and according to a recent BP article, one of the toughest places to hit in all the minors), and showing real improvement in the field and in his triple-slash line. However, his K/AB and K/BB rate has stayed the same the last three years (and this year even shows a tad bit of regression, albeit very slight). His develpoment is legit, but I’m still not convinced he’s all the way there yet.</i></p>
<p>He probably won&#8217;t be all the way there yet for 5-6 years. Most players don&#8217;t reach their peak level of play till there in their mid to late 20&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: 1000N</title>
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		<dc:creator>1000N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 05:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think everyone has missed the obvious solution here:

Send Hargrove to the DL (or better yet, DFA).  With McLaren at the helm, Dave&#039;s plan as expressed in #31 has a chance of being implemented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think everyone has missed the obvious solution here:</p>
<p>Send Hargrove to the DL (or better yet, DFA).  With McLaren at the helm, Dave&#8217;s plan as expressed in #31 has a chance of being implemented.</p>
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		<title>By: wabbles</title>
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		<dc:creator>wabbles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 04:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder what Jim Presley and Darnell Coles are thinking as they read this post????????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what Jim Presley and Darnell Coles are thinking as they read this post????????</p>
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		<title>By: dnc</title>
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		<dc:creator>dnc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 02:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>81, what is this horrible May you keep referencing in regards to Clement? Jeff hit .267/.350/.489 in May, which may be a notch below expectations, but is far from horrible.

He was ghastly in April. If, as you say, he was simply unlucky, then he&#039;s having one heck of a season, because his May was not bad, and his June has been otherworldly (if not quite as otherworldly as Adam Majorleagueready Jones).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>81, what is this horrible May you keep referencing in regards to Clement? Jeff hit .267/.350/.489 in May, which may be a notch below expectations, but is far from horrible.</p>
<p>He was ghastly in April. If, as you say, he was simply unlucky, then he&#8217;s having one heck of a season, because his May was not bad, and his June has been otherworldly (if not quite as otherworldly as Adam Majorleagueready Jones).</p>
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		<title>By: Wishhiker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wishhiker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 02:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find the whole situation difficult to root for Jones&#039; promotion.  At this point, if Jones is to be brought up it has to be as an OFer and/or DH.  In my estimation what it would take to get Jones brought up is a serious injury to Ibanez, Ichiro or Guillen (or trade of one of the 4).  If Vidro got injured I truly believe it&#039;d be Broussard that Hargrove chose to get the playing time at DH (or first, giving Sexson a break from his defensive responsibilities in hopes his bat comes around more at DH.)   

#46 I don&#039;t think Hargrove has changed his mind about not putting Reed in the lineup.  He did tell Bavasi that if Reed was on the 25 he&#039;d get very few AB&#039;s.  I suppose that&#039;s a part of being the 4th OFer, but Ellison seems to have more of Hargroves faith.

I don&#039;t see an answer to who should play third while Beltre&#039;s out that promises better (unfortunately.)  The poeple who&#039;ve been talked about moving would be focused more on thier defense at a new position and most likely have trouble putting up the same offensive numbers.  Then there&#039;s the difficulty they&#039;d probably have defensively at the position, especially the absurd notion of moving Betancourt further from first to ease his throwing problem...Haven&#039;t heard any discussions of promoting a 3Bman though, which makes more sense than trying people at new positions...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the whole situation difficult to root for Jones&#8217; promotion.  At this point, if Jones is to be brought up it has to be as an OFer and/or DH.  In my estimation what it would take to get Jones brought up is a serious injury to Ibanez, Ichiro or Guillen (or trade of one of the 4).  If Vidro got injured I truly believe it&#8217;d be Broussard that Hargrove chose to get the playing time at DH (or first, giving Sexson a break from his defensive responsibilities in hopes his bat comes around more at DH.)   </p>
<p>#46 I don&#8217;t think Hargrove has changed his mind about not putting Reed in the lineup.  He did tell Bavasi that if Reed was on the 25 he&#8217;d get very few AB&#8217;s.  I suppose that&#8217;s a part of being the 4th OFer, but Ellison seems to have more of Hargroves faith.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see an answer to who should play third while Beltre&#8217;s out that promises better (unfortunately.)  The poeple who&#8217;ve been talked about moving would be focused more on thier defense at a new position and most likely have trouble putting up the same offensive numbers.  Then there&#8217;s the difficulty they&#8217;d probably have defensively at the position, especially the absurd notion of moving Betancourt further from first to ease his throwing problem&#8230;Haven&#8217;t heard any discussions of promoting a 3Bman though, which makes more sense than trying people at new positions&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DMZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DMZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 01:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(exhaling)

That&#039;s good.</description>
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<p>That&#8217;s good.</p>
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		<title>By: eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 01:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DMZ,

Yeah mostly I was joking to show the absurdity of the situation.

Any sane team moves Vidro to PH duties, Ibanez to DH (preferably platooned with someone who can hit LHers) Jones to LF, lives with Willie at 3B until Beltre is healthy and doesn&#039;t give a rip about Vidro&#039;s Veteran entitlement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DMZ,</p>
<p>Yeah mostly I was joking to show the absurdity of the situation.</p>
<p>Any sane team moves Vidro to PH duties, Ibanez to DH (preferably platooned with someone who can hit LHers) Jones to LF, lives with Willie at 3B until Beltre is healthy and doesn&#8217;t give a rip about Vidro&#8217;s Veteran entitlement.</p>
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		<title>By: Typical Idiot Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Typical Idiot Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I don’t believe the scouting report was wrong, no. Not in the sense that Clement didn’t actually have a slow bat in May and look like a non-prospect who just lost the ability to hit.&lt;/em&gt;

I think this is the answer I was hoping for.

&lt;em&gt;But, it probably is a reminder of why scouting is an inexact science. Of course, we also need to remember that Clement turns 24 shortly and really should be tearing the cover off the ball in the PCL.&lt;/em&gt;

He did lose some development time due to injury, but this is very correct.  He tore the cover off the ball in April, but had some bad luck.  He had a horrible May, and with his unlucky April it looked really bad.  Now he&#039;s back to tearing the cover off the ball, and this time finding holes.  I&#039;m not saying he&#039;s ready, but it seems he&#039;s back on the right track.

I do think that, come what may, if he&#039;s not ready by 2008, then we have to consider his value fallen.  He&#039;ll still be useful, even if he only turns into a DH / 1B, he&#039;s still a left handed power hitter that we need.  But potential All-Star might be beyond our reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I don’t believe the scouting report was wrong, no. Not in the sense that Clement didn’t actually have a slow bat in May and look like a non-prospect who just lost the ability to hit.</em></p>
<p>I think this is the answer I was hoping for.</p>
<p><em>But, it probably is a reminder of why scouting is an inexact science. Of course, we also need to remember that Clement turns 24 shortly and really should be tearing the cover off the ball in the PCL.</em></p>
<p>He did lose some development time due to injury, but this is very correct.  He tore the cover off the ball in April, but had some bad luck.  He had a horrible May, and with his unlucky April it looked really bad.  Now he&#8217;s back to tearing the cover off the ball, and this time finding holes.  I&#8217;m not saying he&#8217;s ready, but it seems he&#8217;s back on the right track.</p>
<p>I do think that, come what may, if he&#8217;s not ready by 2008, then we have to consider his value fallen.  He&#8217;ll still be useful, even if he only turns into a DH / 1B, he&#8217;s still a left handed power hitter that we need.  But potential All-Star might be beyond our reality.</p>
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