Comments on: Now What?

By: feingarden

feingarden — Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:41:02 +0000

Excellent post, Dave, and thanks. I have only 4 words to add to the end of your detailed analysis…

No.
Way.
In.
Hell.

I really hope I’m wrong, but I don’t think so.

By: mln

mln — Tue, 19 Jun 2007 08:12:36 +0000

If the Mariners are serious about getting back in this thing, there are some things they can do to put a better team on the field for the next three weeks and give themselves a better chance. We’ve talked about most of these, but consider this an official request:

4. More Willie.
5. Even more Willie.
6. Willie without end.

By: MrMackie

MrMackie — Tue, 19 Jun 2007 02:36:35 +0000

91 – “If”, as in Weaver goes fewer than 5 IP and/or gives up 6+ ER. A line like 6 IP, 7 H, 5 ER would be considered darn tootin’ compared to his normal stat set (and compared to the other starters recent lines as well).

92 – Misdiagnosis. Based on the symptoms (his last four starts), it seems more a case of acute Ayala disease or Charltonitis–similar ailments that cause the pitcher to either toss batting practice-like cheeseballs that get hammered or totally avoid home plate as though a mine were hovering above it.

By: Gomez

Gomez — Tue, 19 Jun 2007 01:50:54 +0000

But for godssake give Washburn a rest–the guy’s been stricken with Weaveritis.

You misspelled regression to the mean.

By: The Oaf

The Oaf — Tue, 19 Jun 2007 01:38:28 +0000

89-Bearman need grammatical help…

90-I think you meant to say “When Weaver bombs in his next start”, because Grover’s given Weaver third and fourth chances to showcase his major-league skills and the results have been disappointing, to say the least. Weaver should not start and only see low-leverage action (unless there’s such a thing as a no-leverage situation, then sign him up).

By: MrMackie

MrMackie — Tue, 19 Jun 2007 01:28:43 +0000

I can’t believe I’m writing this, but I’d rather Feierabend replace Washburn for one start than Weaver. Let Weaver have one more start, and skip Washburn once, letting him sort out his addled mind. If Weaver bombs in his next start, then stick him in the bullpen and let Feierabend take his spot. But for godssake give Washburn a rest–the guy’s been stricken with Weaveritis. Also, let’s avoid using Morrow for at least 2-3 days. Or, send him to AAA so that he can work on his stuff without detriment to the M’s.

Totally agree with calling up Jones from AAA. Put him in LF and let Ibanez DH 50% of the time.

By: Bearman

Bearman — Tue, 19 Jun 2007 01:08:28 +0000

With Morse reinjuried I have to agree playing Vidro at 2nd only weakens the middle INF and may invite reinjury of his hamstrings/knee.
Vidro value to the M’s is as DH/PH not in the field at none of the positions.
If Hargrove feels the need to put Lopez at 3rd then put Bloomquist at 2nd tho he does have an option for 3rd in Broussard and Ibanez thus adding another or keeping a LHB to the order.

I agree somewhat with the overall suggested remix of the bullpen however here is where I differ:

Demote Morrow to AA Diamond Jax to work his way into the rotation and work on his pitches expecially his off speed stuff.

Demote Weaver to long relief and mop up duty in blow outs to save the pen along with middle relief with Davis.

Give innings 5 to 7 to Eric O’Flaherty and Sean Green theen leave 8th and 9th go to Sherrill and Putz til Lowe can be returned to the pen to share set up with Sherrill.

Another option if demoting Weaver isn’t enough with Davis trade Mateo and say Ellison for a middle reliever from one of clubs out of contention in their division.

As to the rotation I fully agree put Feierabend in BOR for the remainer of the season cause this young LHP is light years bettter than Jeff”demote me or DFA me”Weaver.With Feierabend the M’s bats have a chance to maintain a lead or reclaim opne before things get too out of reach.

I won’t say never but Ramirez as questionable as Weaver along with the fall off from Washburn etc….Now may be the time maybe shop around Mateo,Reed maybe even Sexson for SP help. I’m sure a solid #2 maybe available from a club or two who are in the hunt but need alittle more bat to get areal shot at it.

The M’s do have options in the second half in AAA who can fill any position on field either as a starter or as a platoon partner.
RF/LF could be Jones ticket to the MLB this season and Broussard can more than handle 1stB in place of Sexson with good offense from the LH side of the plate.
LaHair or Bloomquist can back up Broussard at 1stB should he need a day off etc…..
However if the M’s decide to calup Adam Jones I agree with that must be for a everday starter job or leave him in AAA to hone his skills.
Either RF or LF then platoon with frequent off days in the OF spot Jones isn’t playing with Ibanez,Broussard,maybe Bloomquistwith Ibanez getting the nod when Jones needs a day off.

By: Spanky

Spanky — Tue, 19 Jun 2007 00:30:00 +0000

Why not?

1. Leave Lopez at 2b and keep his good defense in place.

2. Play Bloomquist and Vidro at 3b. If you’re going to insist on playing Vidro in the field, why weaken two positions by moving Lopez to 3b and putting Vidro at 2b? Just put him in at 3b. You also don’t need to be as mobile at 3b so it would seem to suit him better.

3. Trade Guillen for young pitching…or old pitching…Anyone that can go 6-7 innings. Maybe just a pitcher headed to free agency or with a large contract.

4. Bring in Jones to play RF.

By: Tek Jansen

Tek Jansen — Tue, 19 Jun 2007 00:15:41 +0000

Putting Vidro at 2nd and Lopez at 3rd makes the infield defense incredibly weak. Lopez is fine at 2nd, but has no real experience at 3rd. Beyond that, the right side of the infield, between Turbo and Sexson, has absolutely no range. Guillen will be picking up a lot of groundball singles if that is the defensive alignment.

By: DoesntCompute

DoesntCompute — Tue, 19 Jun 2007 00:10:30 +0000

This site depresses me. Not because of rampant negatism but because it makes me an informed fan. Informed fan + Mariner fan + Mariner FO + Mike Hargrove = depressed fan.