Game 73, Red Sox at Mariners
Dave · June 25, 2007 at 6:45 pm · Filed Under Game Threads
Weaver vs Tavarez, 7:05 pm.
Jeff Weaver threw a complete game shutout in his last start. It was one of the most shocking developments in recent baseball history. If he throws one tonight, I’ll retire from blogging and prepare for the end of the world.
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maybe ken shabby will offer free beer again, in the exceedingly unlikely event of another jeff weaver shutout.
Please… NO… Miracles do happen!!!
OK, so in the pregame show, how come Blowers and Rizzs are wearing blue jeans, but Krueger is wearing a suit and tie?
Hargrove in his interview denigrating us because we didn’t believe that Weaver’s start against a bad hitting team was for real.
Meanwhile, Tavarez has been a surprisingly effective (and psycho) 5th starter for the Sox. He gives up pretty many baserunners, but enough GB to keep things from getting out of hand. Odds on whether he rolls a ball to 1B tonight?
If Weaver throws another complete game shut out, I’ll spring for free french fries for everyone at Safeco*
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*Offer not valid
I hope Jeff told his family not to watch today. This could get ugly.
Nice K though of JD “possibly the worst signing of the off-season” Drew.
Weaver at least LOOKS good already. I’m no scout, but he’s throwing with a nice rhythm. My prediction: 6.2, 3 R, 2 BB, 5 K
Pedroia = Giovanni Ribisi!
So much for the 27 strikout perfect game.
great support by neihaus, “Belted to deep right field”…. and it doesn’t even reach the track. Please, someone spring for some PRK or the Hall of Fame bid already and get this dude off the air.
Who honestly cares how well he judges a flyball? He makes the game a hell of a lot more enjoyable to watch/listen to.
thanks david, i guess dave isn’t as perfect as #11
#7
That would be Weaver
Not gonna get far with at-bats like Vidro’s. First pitch is aimed at Microsoft’s corporate campus, second pitch groundout to second.
Do you suppose those “Theme To Do Items” over to the right of this comment will ever get done?
that was nasty…wow…
Vidro is worthless
Weaver, looks good, i might shoot myself later but im going with, 7.1, 3ER, 3BB, 6K
also betting that Ramirez hits one out on Weaver
If the best you can say in defense of a professional’s repeated incompetence is that he’s entertaining, that’s pretty desperate. A standup comic is entertaining. A baseball play-by-play man should be informative and accurate first.
If Niehaus were merely not perfect, that would be defensible. His dotage is a joke. In the rest of baseball, a man who stops being able to do a good job loses his job. It’s sentimentality that keeps announcers employed when they go bad. If you feel sentimental about Niehaus, that’s your prerogative, but spare us the self-righteousness about people pointing out that the guy can’t call a goddamned flyball.
I figure at some point the Sox will remember that they’re the Red Sox and the pitcher is Weaver…
I think the blogosphere wouldn’t be the same without you Dave. I’d retract that though…just in case lightning strikes twice. Heh.
#19 – Amen – the broadcasting position is a job, not a Lifetime Achievement Award. If the man can’t do the job as effectively anymore, it’s completely fair for others to point it out. No one around here has a problem about pointing out Richie’s or Jeff Weaver’s flaws…
the ball was hit hard…and it did sound like it was gone coming off the bat…cut the guy some slack…damn…
Scraps–I disagree with your premise that “A baseball play-by-play man should be informative and accurate first.” Personally, I follow baseball to be entertained; it’s not like it’s a seminar on international relations or anything that actually matters. I’d prefer someone who sometimes get things wrong, like Niehaus, to a million competent but dull Mike Blowerses.
Also, ask the Cubs if they fired their old guy once he stopped being able to do his job…
Gotta love a 10-pitch double!
was that really “tomahawked” or should he be fired…
nice hit sexxy…
I love Ben Broussard. I really do.
I wonder if Richie’s wife gets weirded out by Niehaus calling him Sexy.
FWIW my reaction when the ball left Ortiz’s bat was to swear. It sure LOOKED like it was going to go.
what is kenji doing? that is TURBO’S job…
Blowers can’t even identify a pitch.
I have nostalgic reaasons (as we all do) for liking Niehaus and surprisingly, I really like Sims (a lot!). When is Curto going to get a chance? Never I suppose.
That was Tomahawked. accurate call.
BTW, Omar != Haller. Greatest Defensive SS? What happened to Ozzie Smith?
Sims is the best thing to happen to the mariners since trading Rafael Soriano
Dave- were you serious?
i dig simms because you can tell he doens’t know much about the team yet, has the east coast biased still, but he has fun at the game, doesn’t take it too seriously, and sounds like a great guy to be around…
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I had McCall-like traffic on my way home to Nampa from Boise.
The cars were moving slower than Raul in LF
um, he’s a natty dresser?
Mariners rules vs FSN? I still haven’t figured out why they are making Angie wear that stupid blazer she can barely get ’round herself these days.
19, You’re letting your anger over the Mariners’ roster management spill over into an area where the concept of “competency” doesn’t mean as much. I don’t think anyone’s knowledge of the game suffers because of his innacuracies. The function of an announcer is very basic, to explain the game as it happens, and there is a large window for error and correction. For such a simple task, the value is in whether and how much they enhance the viewing experience. Yes, the game isn’t entertainment, but the play-by-play sort of is.
Weaver-tastic!
37: From Nampa to Boise? Not the other way around? Because the Meridian bottleneck and associated traffic is on the westbound expressway. The eastbound is bad, but try driving BACK during rushhour. That’s Boise traffic as it didn’t exist in 2002.
way to fuck yourself weaver…
Hmmm…
Could’ve gotten him at second, since no one bothered to cover first…but horrendous throw.
Oh…”to Nampa from Boise”
Yeah, Eagle Rd and the Meridian Bottleneck fuck that drive up.
Saved by Weaver…yay Dave.
oh, I think the blame can be spread all around the infield.
and it begins…
Well, that sucked.
Great athletic ability by Lopez on that whiff…geez
Whee! Consecutive Little League boo-boos.
I tend to forget how short Pedroia is until he stands next to Sexson.
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Yeah…brutal (like our infield today)
Thankfully Dave will be with us from here on out.
#1: I was going to offer free Jell-O Pudding Pops™ for everyone if Weaver were to throw another CGSHO tonight, but alas it’s not meant to be.
I was on I-84 during rushhour a couple weeks ago for the first time since I left Boise in 2003. It’s gotten significantly worse…resembles big city traffic.
I was slwoed down way before the flying wye (east of it, near Cole) and was just like WTF
so if BB can play competant right and keep hitting, do we move guillen?
Yep, at the belt is still a strike there Big Papi!
Not as bad as South I-5 at the SR 512 junction at 5:00 on a Friday night, though
51 – I thought Boston was trying to even the odds by playing a little leaguer.
Oh oh…the spit. That’s the power.
Hey look, Vidro is the 2nd best DH in the AL.
My MLB.com Beat the Streak Streak lives!
If they’d just hit them harder, maybe we’d have a chance?
Ugh
weaver just said something to his infield…
you know, Boston doesn’t really need the extra help. Really.
It’s probably a function of Dave working TV and radio at the same game. If you’re not watching the game you wouldn’t know the difference. Niehaus is still great even though he’s getting up there. I was stuck in Chicago for 4 years listening to Hawk Harrelson and DJ, ay caramba.
yes!!! look at that! Turbo’s BA is only 41 points below Ortiz!!!
Wonder Twin powers, activate!
Form of… a bad pitcher!
Wow…giving Drew a hit on that gaffe is pretty sad. The fact Lopez may not have touched it only emphasizes how bad he was on that weak grounder.
Oh man, but I tell you. I got stuck behind this 1P camper at SH-55 and Elo Rd south of McCall, and this sucker just backed traffic down Elo for like a mile waiting to turn.
Damn Payettians
19: Thanks for the backup, and you know, I completely agree in the fact that any human, aside from weathermen and baseball announcers (see Harry Carey, Dave Niehaus, Jack Buck, etc…) would be fired for less incompetence. and Dan-O, did you suffer through the last 3 years of Harry’s broadcasts? it was honestly pathetic, and they should have put him out of his misery, but it’s the only thing those retarded Cubs fans had to hang onto….
The knowledge and humor I would receive from a normal broadcast is typically supplemented by this board, which I definitely enjoy reading, except for people who can’t seem to grasp that Dave Niehaus is past his prime and being held onto like a hood ornament from a 1923 Rolls Royce – serves no purpose except for useless stories and a little reminiscence of what was.
that’s two stike-outs with the drop-down-slider…maybe use it a little more?
Did…Dreamweaver just strike out…Manny Ramirez? :O
It’s not like Niehaus ever had a good eye for the ball off the bat. I remember well over a decade ago a Niehaus call “and that ball is BELTED, DEEP TO RIGHT FIELD and . . . the second baseman gathers it in with a fine running catch.”
you want to hear useless stories and reminiscence? listen to a dodgers broadcast…fucking brutal…
Weaver reminds me, Franklin was pitching for the Cards earlier on ESPN, and he has grown a full beard. It took me a minute to realize that was what it was, of course, for as with Weaver, with that fair hair it looked more like a skin condition …
I really hate this guy’s body language. What is up with that?
David Ortiz had 6 career steals before tonight.
He had one last season. And one in 2005.
I was fond of the Tom Seaver/Dave O’Brien duo (Mets). Ron Darling’s pretty good, too (I happen to get WPIX on Dish Network).
Angels losing! Strange times…
That was the best-pitched 2-earned run inning I have seen in a really long time. And the worst fielding I’ve seen in a really long time also.
Back in the late eighties the Orioles had Jim Palmer doing play by play and Brooks Robinson doing color. They were really good, Robinson kind of folksy but still informative and Palmer just kind of dryly savage about incompetence.
so why is ellison on the team again?
75: That’s all the Dodgers have left is useless stories. They spent their money on everything else, including Schmidt’s shoulder and Lasorda’s hooker habit.
People who think that Niehaus should be fired are the same type of person who locks their parents up in nursing homes because they occasionally lose their car keys.
Just shut up about it. You can sign up for mlb.tv and listen to the Red Sox broadcast on-line or turn the sound down. No one is making you listen. There are choices. Stop bitching about something you have a choice about.
That would have been a homer in the Dome!
Skip Carey and Don Sutton were pretty good for the Bravos. Don has some seriously good insight into pitching approach to certain hitters and his analysis was enjoyable. I’d like to see him as a coach somewhere, but what the hell do I know….
i have the direct tv package, and i’m not being a homer here, but our broadcasters are some of the best…the yanks, whitesox, angels and dodgers are terrible..i want to punch the wonder dog in the face…
Rex Hudler is the worst announcer ever. For all those who want to get rid of Niehaus, I challenge you to listen to an entire broadcast of Rex Hudler.
I have mlb.tv and I get Niehuas. I don’t want those horribly biased Sox announcers.
thank you Alex! i want to jump in the tv, grab “big vladdy’s” bat and pummel “the wonder dog” rex hudler every time the ms play down here…
#89: I dunno, Rick Sutcliffe can be pretty unbearable at times. I just cringe at the thought of those two doing a game together.
Hey Dick, I mean Alex, it’s American to bitch about things we have choices over, especially when I don’t want to listen to the idiots in Bean Town talk about their stellar line up and recite ramblings from the Schilling blog.
I am just saying that I think Niehaus has passed his prime, and I don’t think he should be broadcasting anymore… done.
What is happening to Lopez? Has he been hanging around Dave Krieg?
I love Dave N as an announcer. However, Dave N has always been bad at play by play — he rarely gives the score, he misses some plays and pitches. He was doing that back in the ’80s. What are ya gonna do?
For what it is worth, this year I am listening to the games on TV, whereas in previous years I would often turn the sound down on TV and listen to the radio (especially when Rizzs and Hendu were on TV…)
Rizz and Hendu were way worse than what we have now…
#93. why don’t you join take your rants to schilling’s blog.
nice promo for the game on wednesday…”Dice-K vs. Seattle”… the rest of the sox have the night off?
We should trade Neihaus for Griffey.
lookling forward to lou’s press conf. tonight, cubs blew a 5-run 9th ining lead and still haven’t recorded an out
I’d trade a large bag of donuts for Griffey.
89, 91: Thank you, brave souls, for reminding me that I’m not alone in this lifelong struggle to survive every game over which this “Huddler” fellow presides.
Weaver seems like he is pitching a pretty good game against a really good team. It’s not like their pitcher is Cy Young. Let’s get some offense here!
Weaver’s pitching reasonably well tonight. If it weren’t for his hideous throw and J-Lo playing defense like the other J-Lo we’d be leading 1-0.
yeah…we can still pull this out…
100, wow! I was watching that game, but changed it in the 8th. Lou looks pissed…positively Ayalapissed. And Joejessica just made the first out! Heh…
Any chance the Royals blow a 4 run lead tonight, wait make it a 2 run lead.
If you want good analysis of a game, come here, or Lookout Landing, you’ll never get it from the TV or radio. Announcers are necessary for people new to the game, and just something to listen to while we watch an otherwise silent game, or to tell us what’s happening on the radio. There are too many broadcasters who’s voices are grating, or who say a lot of stupid and annoying stuff that detracts from the experience. Dave N. does none of these things, and provides a nice background. The notion that broadcasting should hold the same standard of performance as the players on the field, or jobs relating to the operation of the team is ludicrous. We’re not getting our asses kicked by Oakland because Dave N. can’t judge a flyball. It’s not such a big deal as to outweigh his other contributions to the viewing/listening experience.
If the M’s sweep the Sox and the Royals sweep the Angels this week I’ll buy everyone here a Crying Joey Cora doll.
Well said _David_ 108.
Grg
Hello. I’m a Red Sox fan. Not looking to troll or anything. Just thought I’d check in. Always interesting to hear what knowledgeable fans of other teams think about your players.
Uh oh. Tavarez in one of his unpredictable funks.
Looks like he may have a hurt leg. Mechanics have been whacked out last two batters.
Can M’s Fans sell out there own ballpark when the Sox or yanks come to town? Its pathetic to listen to the game on the radio and have it sound like a road game.
How will you get the donuts away from Griffey?
the Mariners draw back to back walks. They did that once last night, too.
Tavarez mysteriously slips from very good to very bad with no warning all the time with or without turning an ankle.
I have to say that Weaver’s definitely throwing harder than he did against the Sox at the home opener in Fenway in April.
Though, I think he got lucky in having Lowell up that time with the bases loaded. Lowell’s got a bad thumb and he’s been useless for a couple weeks.
Papi’s mad at himself for missing that one.
Question, Does Ichiro usually do better, worse or about the same against sinkerballers like Tavarez?
What’s the general expectation supposed to be of groundball hitter against groundball pitcher?
This Jeff Weaver guy is really really good. I like him. Can we keep him, huh, huh, can we?
Weaver has been doing his job since he came off the DL. Everyone is waiting for the other foot to fall but he seems stronger in every start. Is is smoke and mirrors?
Wow, now the Cubs have the bases loaded with 2 outs. Excitement at Wrigley.
shoe to drop?
He’s thrown some fastballs 90 mph according to the NESN feed I see her in Massachusetts. When he pitched against the Sox in April I was kind of shocked at how low the gun readings were, fastballs consistently 85-86 it seemed.
I’ll grant that Niehaus is inoffensive; I just think that’s the bare minimum an announcer ought to offer.
I’m not asking for analysis from Niehaus; I am asking for a reasonable degree of information and accuracy by the established standards of play-by-play announcers. Nothing fancy. Just meeting the professional standards of his profession.
I am not convinced that Ichiro’s hitting can be predicted. When he is on, he is on, and when he is off, well, he beats out some routine grounders for infield hits.
wow, cubs come back…guess lou will be a little nice at the postgame…
Niehaus has a comfortable, and familiar voice along with a history that goes back to the teams original orgin. He will be behind the mike as long as he wants, or is able to.
Nah. He’ll still dump on his own players. He’s amazing. Not in a good way.
What a surprise. Tavarez throws the ball away. Plus ca change . .
Garcia? No…Goff is 3b coach, even I saw that.
Any chance we could pinch hit for Bloomquist??
Suicide squeeze? Too expected.
Or was that a flash of the 1st base side? Woops
Wow…go Willie.
good stuff.
Willie “Clutch” Boom Boom. Hah.
#131 Why would you pinch hit for Willie?
A hit to . . Bloomquist?
Sigh.
Just who is this WFB? Is he a soul partner of JFW? Because they sure don’t remind me of players past around here …
No…no need for bunting here. Hit it Ich.
Oh, yeah, the infield BETTER play back here
132, I thought of that, but with no outs, probably not a smart play.
hmm, i figured squeeze since he can’t hit a flyball deep enough with the boomstick, but the basehit works…
My apologies go out to Mr. Bloomquist although I would’ve preferred an extra base hit.
138: why are you so down on a BASEHIT/RBI? Enjoy the game, mon!
Gee, I thought Tavarez was spitting into his glove but he threw a fairly straight pitch on 1-1
#137 Just being sarcastic, Bloomie’s my favorite Mariner.
People who want to put Niehaus out to pasture should be forced to watch the 3 hour documentary “Rick Rizzs Presents Willie Bloomquist: The Scrappy Life Of A Mariner Hero” with the help of the Ludovico Technique.
Red Sox announcers are shocked that there’s no one warming up in the pen. So am I. WTF?
145: He’s a red sox fan.
Time for some redemption Jose after that earlier defense!
142, two outs? wha…?
Lopez has a chance for redemption… At least hit a fly ball Jose.
Tavarez’s picture is in the dictionary next to “erratic”
Jose should take a HBP here just to make up for his fielding tonight.
And as for Niehaus miscalling the Ortiz flyout, I thought it was out. It sure sounded like he got all the sweet spot on it.
Tavarez looks like a cross between Mateo and Walter Matthau
152, I was saying that with no out and a guy on third, you should be able to score him without resorting to a suicide squeeze.
In the AIR JOSE!
#154, It would be even more fitting if they used his Yahoo profile pic.
Way to work the count, Lopez. That’s a great at-bat.
If there was no one warming up, who’s coming in?
Told ya this guy wasn’t Cy Young
J…. LO!
Lopez!!!
In the air, in the air, noooooooooo, YESSS!!!!!!!!!
Look at Willie sliding home! I’m sorry, but he’s probably one of my top 3 players on the M’s right now.
Sure glad Varitek and Tavarez conferred on that one. Let’s listen in!
“How bout you throw him a gently lilting piece of crap?”
“The one everyone hits?”
“That’s the one.”
Tavarez always makes the funniest faces when things aren’t going well for him.
Nice shot, I think a couple of RBIs can make up for some fielding miscues… I’ll take it!!!
Weaver has a positive WPA tonight through 5.
I guarantee a DP right now.
158, sorry i projected a “two” where you had “no”…*shakes head*…time to put the glasses back on…i even re-read it!
Wow…VIDRO bunt…. OH MY. Who are these Mariners?
Gee, I wonder what’s about to happen?
Please, Francona, the moment the reliever you waited to long to start warming up is ready, bring him into the game.
I mean a bunt. (Wow, Hargrove. I think you’re smart.)
How many other teams have their DH bunt in that situation? Seriously?
Jerry Remy was just *killing* Vidro for bunting there.
okay, that wasn’t as painful as it could’ve been
Holy crap. Horrible bunt. Just horrible.
#177 Not just their DH, but also their #3 hitter!
D…D…Dream Weaver?
Apparently Francona thinks the Sox are still playing interleague and doesn’t want to make a double switch. Tavarez looked bad against Sexson. Bring in Snyder for god’s sake!
177: I was thinking about that last night when Vidro bunted.
OK, let’s see, you got your DH batting third, so when there are runners on you have him bunt to stay out of the double play.
It actually makes sense, in an addled sort of way, if you first buy into actually having Vidro in the lineup and then secondly batting him third. Once you get past that stupidity, the bunts make sense.
Hilarious
Nice!
Richie scorches another one! A hit is a hit I guess.
Bases loaded for Ben Broussard … I love the sound of that!
Richie crushed that one.
Wow, two excellent call from that third place ump.
Great slide into 3rd too.
Umm…you mean a fielder’s choice. But…yeah, it works.
Holy crap now they’re doing cover versions of that Mellencamp song to play in other commercials? Because we weren’t hearing it enough just during the Chevy commercials??
wow 0-2 count and Sexson still manages to avoid a K with a single. Welcome back Richie we’ve only been waiting for like what half a season?
192, he was given a hit.
Of course, if Francona had just bothered to say that Tavarez had rolled his ankle and was injured, he could have brought Snyder in at any time before this. But that would’ve been too assertive.
There have been 7 batters this inning.
Only one of those plate appearences resulted in the Mariners probability of winning decreasing.
Guess which one?
Hint: it is the one that would have decreased the probability of winning even IF the intended play had succeeded.
Ahh no out. yeah. Good call too.
Fielder’s choice? No one got out and no error.
OOOOH Benny ALMOST had that one. Rawr.
The home plate ump’s called one of the best games I’ve seen this season.
Broussard did a lot better with the bases loaded against Beckett when he knew what was coming last year.
#201. You jinxed him. He gave Snyder a bad one just to show you, apparently.
Pretty good relief pitching. First pitch changeup at 68 MPH for a strike on Broussard. Then a breaking ball strike to start Johjima. Tough to get any timing against that.
Great AB, Kenji-kun.
Happy to retract that claim about good relief pitching
Way to earn that RBI Johji. Close pitches too.
YO ADRIAN… CLEAR THE HOUSE!
i hate the “man card” concept, and the idea of it being revoked for doing something that could be described as effeminate or by somehow emasculating yourself. i bring it up here only because i wish we were bestowed with mariner fan cards that worked in the same fashion–just so we could revoke it for comments like 166…unless you’re being facetious? please?
Is anybody worried what the extended inning will do to Weaver’s groove?
Weaver going with the Robert Plant circa 1973 look.
Of course, if Francona had just bothered to say that Tavarez had rolled his ankle and was injured, he could have brought Snyder in at any time before this.
Judging from the results so far, it wouldn’t have mattered.
I like this Snyder guy.
Weaver going with the Robert Plant circa 1973 look.
He’s stuffing his crotch with a rolled up sock?
Beltre…plate discipline…egads…
Snyder!
Great. Snyder decides that pitching effectively has been boring. Let’s try this incompetence for a while.
Good pod people have taken over the Mariners at the plate. They are taking pitches.
#209 Darn, I was hoping that #166 wasn’t me. Umm, I guess I always like to root for the underdog, and Willie is a scrappy little player. As others have said, he’s a great guy to have on the team for his versatility, although his usage can be argued.
A downright Mariner-like meltdown on the mound from Boston!
Something really strange is in the air. Weaver pitching well. Papi and Manny doing horrible. Mariners laying down good bunts. And…to top it off WALKING in runs! And for the ICING… Willie gets an RBI hit to give the M’s the lead.
This is the most un-Mariner-like inning I’ve seen in a while.
after the first pitch to him, ball one, Betancourt looked down to third and shook his head yes. That had to be a take sign.
What will this be, Yuni’s second walk all year?
Bullpen action anyone? Weaver has got to be cold. If Hargrove puts him back in he is a bigger idiot than I thought
As long as the M’s keep scoring runs, less-crazy weaver can do keg stands for all I care.
Are these guys for real? They’re actually using some plate discipline tonight?
Hey Julian! If you’re hurt . . get out of the frigging game next time. Personal valor at the team’s expense is not a good tradeoff.
This is 97.8% as fun as watching the Yankees bullpen have a meltdown. You can spell this M’s Win with several W’s.
I take it back. 2-0 groundout, at least Betancourt is behaving normally tonight.
Yuni should’ve been taking all the way. Oh well.
#230 Normally? Does he have an error yet?
Now if the M’s score another 6 without giving up any more, I’ll feel comfortable. Otherwise, disaster is just one Pappi grand slam away….
OK get somebody up.
That was a Fenway single.
Fear the Bloom-Cannon
Whoever predicted the fries turning into a tradition may have been right…
Holy laser beam Boom Boom…
Weaver at 96 pitches. And lead ass Lowell only gets a single.
That was a very bad sign for Weaver. Perhaps Lowell’s first hard hit ball in a week.
Uh oh
Bring in Sean Green
There should be a rule that if you live in Seattle and can’t spell Ivar’s correctly, you don’t get to have any free fries.
Sweat it out Jeff, sweat it out…you can do this…
Get Weaver off the mound NOW!
That pine time definitely screwed up Weave’s mojo
5 runs on 6 hits, you gotta love efficiency.
Normally? Does he have an error yet?
The other half of the double play double mint twins is covering for him today.
Great at bat, Crisp. A nothing fastball down the middle and you pop it up. Sigh. Serenity now.
What was the girl who delivered the fries doing with the microphone? Please don’t put these people on TV
whoops, I meant 6 runs on 6 hits
237: I predicted the fries tradition yesterday (hoping the gig didn’t have legs) but I was at the restroom till now … did they really pull another stunt with fries? Gawd, I hope not.
Nice pitch Weavester
Lugo is hitting sub ,\.100 for June. Let’s see what Weaver does with him.
Excellent game for Weaver
Big Ben has been doing OK out there, but it is something of an adventure. I’ve seen him take a few steps the wrong way a couple of times, including on that last fly out.
Or OFlaherty.
Get Weaver some fries!
Lugo should take the hint. Weaver had nothing left but the M’s didn’t mind him staying in to face him.
Man, the graph for that Cubs game is absolutely nuts.
Weaver did a nice job mixing it up tonight. Let’s hope he keeps it rolling.
Hi guys – just joined this site – been lurking for a while.
Pretty good outing for Weaver I thought. Hope he ends up with the “W”.
251, yes, yes they did.
There were two different groups with signs tonight, so they picked one over the other.
#251 Yep, more fries were delivered. I bet it keeps going until the M’s lose again. Or it could turn into a secret weapon like the rally monkey the year the Angels won the World Series.
By the way, Angels are down 5-3 in the 9th.
242, hear hear! if seattle=western washington that is…
What they’re not telling anybody is that they’re Blowers’ special “Funk Blast” fries.
“Oh, they’re Belgian style! With mayo!”
“Uh, yeah…. that’s not mayo”
#259
Where do you find those graphs?
251. what’s the matter fish, you don’t like to see people have fun. are you always this serious ? or maybe you want blowers to deliver fish and no chips.
They should just make them watch/listen to one of the Ivar’s commercials where the man sings his “acres of clams” over and over until they beg to be kept clam.
267:
http://www.fangraphs.com/livescoreboard.aspx
I was disappointed with the last Ivar’s© Grounders™ garlic fries I bought at the Safe. I had about 20-25% less than usual. But it was really busy so I didn’t bother complaining.
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Just an aside: Lincecum goes 7 shutout innings, leaves with a 2-0 lead, Cammy hits a 3-run blast of the new guy next inning…
In 15+ innings, Weaver has given up one, count them, one earned runs.
266,
…ergh…you’ve just ruined tartar sauce for me…
I’m not so sure about bringing Snyder out here again. The bullpen’s pretty rested. He didn’t look so hot and they’ve got a day off Thursday.
So he leaves without even a quality start, but it really wasn’t a bad game for Jeff. Really, 5.2 with 1 ER and 8 baserunners is a lot more than I was expecting.
HOLY Smokes…he’s up to .263!
265: Of course. I’m a Vashonite, so yes, the rule would apply to all west of the mountains.
Don’t look now but Weaver has a sub-8.00 ERA.
Dotel just walked the first batter and now Vlad is at the plate.
Come on Royals… don’t let them catch up…
“Just an aside: Lincecum goes 7 shutout innings, leaves with a 2-0 lead, Cammy hits a 3-run blast of the new guy next inning…”
Please don’t remind me. I just got done smashing my face into a table. I love Lincecum, but the Giants bullpen is useless.
Sims said the first night that fries were a new tradition
Getting Bloomquist out doesn’t prove me wrong.
That pitch was high.
Don’t look now but Weaver is the pitcher of decision.
I hate the cameraman.
Lousy camera work!
Vidro’s home run that wasn’t, the camera didn’t even pan down to show the catch.
what the fuck was that?
That FSNW cameraman is a tease. That was the HR shot – whoops, he caught it 12 feet short of the wall!
Um, I still don’t think I’ve been proven wrong. See? Liner by Lopez for a hit.
C’mon, Vidro, work some of that ‘00 magic.
Its incredible how good Ichiro is. He’s 0-3 and people start to wonder if he is going into a slump
Is Turbo destined to be the $10 million pinch hitter next year?
The Royals beat the Angels.
Has Vidro been batting third all year?
How do you bat third behind Suzuki and hit .294 and only have 22 rbi in nearly half a season? Hurt?
I said after his complete game: if in his next three starts Weaver can go 6 innings while giving up no more than 3 ER in each game, I’ll consider it real.
And I’m willing to grant him this one, even if he didn’t quite make 6IP.
I wonder what the master strategist Hargrove has up his sleeve right now.
How funny would that be if the Angel’s lost a series to the Royals. I’ll answer that: very funny.
What an ungainly slide!
Did they called that crappy curve a strike?
We’re in the NL west Mr. Sims? I didn’t know that.
Am I the only one that thinks that “the wave” should not ever occur in a baseball stadium?
#305. No. You’re not the only one.
Octavio Dotel is my favorite player
Believe it or not, Vidro has mostly been hitting 2nd. He was hitting into dps so often Ichiro started stealing like crazy just to stay out of them. Sure, Vidro is hitting around .300, but almost all of them are singles (a surprising number of them infield singles, which seems impossible given how slowly he runs). Take a look at his XBH and OPS. That’s why he has no RBIs.
“The Wave” is so 1980’s.
#298
Slugging .284 with RISP, that’s how. (compared to Ichiro’s .545)
Its incredible how good Ichiro is. He’s 0-3 and people start to wonder if he is going into a slump
Heck, sometimes he only gets one hit in a game and I worry there’s something wrong.
Nice grab by Yuni
Some days things just aren’t going to go your way.
ahh, the wave…I remember when I was like 8, we went to the Kingdome and it went around like 12 times. I counted.
Holy crap. “Slugging” .284? That’s horrendous.
268: I would prefer not to have to watch a french fries delivery made-up scene every night for the next several days. If that’s your cup of tea … fine. I imagine you watch and enjoy (and support) the video hydro races, clap on queue with the obnoxious stadium audio and do the wave when it arrives at your section. More power to you (and less to me). Personally, I love excitement at the ballpark …. just not the scripted kind.
The wave is awesome. At the football games here it does super slo-mo, ultra speed, turn around, and even splits. How can you not like the wave?
cup check!
haha Sims is reading old stats.
Our guy Orsillo reads old, new, but mostly irrelevant stats.
gotta love that
With regard to the wave, we’re just a little jaded. After 30 years, you would be too. Anyway, it was invented for football, and that’s where it belongs.
i always like to upset the huskies by giving proper credit to the edmonton oilers fans for creating the wave, they did a good 10 months before the husky clowns started the tradition. that being said, i agree with all that don’t like it.
I will take Sims’s reading old stats vs. Ron Fairly talking about facing unimportant pitchers from the 30’s anyday.
Hell to the yes!
I bowled over my average each game, the Mariners are somehow leading the Red Sox, and, once more, I did not have to use my AK.
Good day.
When the Red Sox played in Arizona he spent three days reciting in childlike amazement the stat that AZ’s closer had converted 21 out of 24 save opportunities. The fact that closers convert something like 85% of save chances and Valverde was at 87.5% was unknown to him.
Oh god. Timlin. He’s not been good this year.
oakland a’s fans will also they did the wave before the huskies. so we can blame them for starting it in baseball. you’re right joser, keep it in football.
TIMMAY! Another four pitch walk by the Bosox crew. Lovin it.
325: I’m sure Mr. Cube would be proud of all your daily accomplishments.
308. Actually he has 22 RBIs.
Funny, Timlin didn’t think it was the ball and throw it to second.
FUNK BLAST!!!
I gotta say, I’m liking our chances here
Johjima!
SUGOI ZAPATSU!
Really liking our chances
BACK TO BACK BABY!!!!
This may sound cruel but seeing as the Sox are already losing, this is not a bad time for Timlin to get his ass kicked to show Francona that his pet simply does not have it any more.
BACK TO BACK FUNK!
Good thing we brought in the pinch runner
Wow, back to back. I don’t miss Timlin on our roster one bit.
jeez, guys, save some of those runs
Good stuff!
Go us!
340: Ellison was going to replace Broussard anyway. Would be dumb to have Ben run and then switch in the top of the 8th.
Hey, at least Ichi will get another at bat now
Okay when they played that song for Kenji’s HR I got angry and thought, c’mon, they can do better than that, but then starting it up again for Adrian’s HR was somehow hilarious.
342- No kidding. I’m going to tomorrow nights game with a dipshit Boston fan. I don’t wanna listen to him all night.
#341. Timlin was good in 2003, 2004 and less so in 2005. In 2006 he started to fall apart but he’s definitely one of Francona’s favorites. He just doesn’t have it any more. A hit by Bloomquist would prove it conclusively. And does.
Just when I thought Kenji was in a slump he goes and hits a blast. He’s been my favorite Mariner ever since he got bulldozed at the plate last year but held onto the ball.
345-That tends to be Hargrove’s MO. I just always find it funny when a pinch runner is brought in and then gets blasted in on a homer
Nice for Timlin to come in to give the M’s a little extra BP. They’re trying to get him to 1000 games, but he’s cooked.
Remy on NESN now speculating that Timlin’s not healthy. What a great thing for pitchers to play gung ho and hurt the team.
Hey James T – Is there a website this awesome for Red Sox fans?
hey fish, you just described several scripted things that i don’t like. but i don’t see how blowers’ fries are scripted. did he call those people and ask them to bring a sign ? so what if he wants to interact with the crowd. loosen up a little.
I hope they get Timlin out of there soon….so he’s available for the next few games
#352. Yup. I think the 1000 appearances thing is definitely part of it. Timlin’s apparently a really nice guy and great teammate but exemplifies the danger of such guys at the end of their career. They get way more chances to suck than nasty unfriendly guys.
#354. Yes, a better one. IMO.
I’m thinking it’s a good time to throw Morrow in some garbage time.
That was a horrible bit from Grover. “We may not get them out…” “No one looks forward to playing them…” Not even the yanks huh?
#356. I would, too, if I were a Mariners fan. He was throwing 88 with no movement and when he was good he threw 91-92 mostly good moving 2 seamers. He’s toast.
I got a higher score on the SAT than Mike Lowell.
For God sakes, we have a 7 run lead. The the ball over the plate.
How do you know?
GEORGE! I can’t wait for George time.
Timlin is my favorite player
364, because they just showed it on the screen here…
#360 — hey, they asked Hargrove for some ManagerSpeak TM and they got it.
personally, I’d rather get free fries than, say, have Bert Blyleven “circle me” on the video monitor.
#358 James T., You sure your answer is not a little biased? I mean don’t you wanna hang out a little longer before you come to that conclusion?
Let George do it.
Anything new on Mark Lowe’s rehab?
And all over New England, people up past their bedtimes are turning off their TVs in disgust.
oh, there’s Sean Green.
I wondered where he’d gotten to.
#369. I think I’ve been a member at this site a couple years. I like it. But not as much as another one.
Get him out Grover. Thank you!
For Dave.
i always like to upset the huskies by giving proper credit to the edmonton oilers fans for creating the wave, they did a good 10 months before the husky clowns started the tradition.
AndI always like to upset both groups by noting the first recorded wave was in Oakland in October 1981.
the NewsTribune had an update on sunday; he’s scheduled for simulated games wed & sunday …
I need more cowbell! I’ve got a fever and the only prescription is more cowbell.
That was an awesome collection of Mike Lowell trivia. I got higher than him on the SAT too. But, uh, I never did succeed at becoming a professional athlete, come to think of it.
Of all the things to escape a black hole!!
Too late
George!!!!!!
At least Hargrove is saving Sherill for when he’s really needed.
msb, check #327, i’m with you on that one. some kind of dispute about edmonton, they probably didn’t have tv cameras in early 80’s in edmonton. i heard they just got the internet last month.
you know, I have absolutely no idea what my SATs were.
I didn’t even become an unprofessional athlete.
Speaking of the SAT, I recently sat next to a high-school junior on a plane who was telling me that she was concerned about getting into UW because she’d only gotten 1500 on her SAT’s.
She had to tell me that it’s out of 2400 now.
378, thanks for the link. Watching Green do his best Morrow impression reminded me how much I miss Lowe.
I missed it — what was his SAT score? (of course they’ve messed with the thing so badly over the years that unless you’re comparing scores from roughly the same half-decade it’s meaningless).
#385. I haven’t weighed in on the wave.
I do hate it, though, esp. when drunken 20 year olds attempt to start it as the Mariners are pitching.
they probably didn’t have tv cameras in early 80’s in edmonton. i heard they just got the internet last month.
It was tough getting the wiring to not melt the igloos.
GIDP! Oh, wait.
387: I hear you. The keep screwing with us. I went to my girlfriend’s little brother’s high school graduation the a few weeks ago, and they announced all the kids who graduated with GPA above 4.0.
Where I come from, you can’t do better than straight A’s. California is ridiculous.
Timlin got 1210; I got 1490 (permit me this bragging as I’m sure someone will soon weigh in and outdo me).
I wonder if the development of the Wave was sort of like the development of calculus. Despite the debate, there is really no reason to doubt that Newton and Leibnitz developed it independently to answer the kind of questions being asked at the end of the seventeenth century. Perhaps the Wave represents the same sort of socio-cultural responce to social ferment? Or, maybe not …
did tomorrow’s starting pitcher pitch in relief in the 1st series against the Sox? Kason Gabbard sounds oddly familiar …
Hey James T, I don’t follow Red Sox for obvious reasons other than the daily boxscores, but is Pena happy with his role in Beantown?
Hey, I want to know Lowell’s SAT score too! (Mine was pretty good.) I guess Dave doesn’t have to prepare for the end of the world, but Weaver actually has looked decent lately; I’m still not convinced it means anything though, since Weaver’s had flashes of brilliance combined with lengthy stretches of mediocrity-to-awfulness his whole career.
Lowell (not Timlin) got a 1210 on his SATs.
Is this ballclub for real?
hmm. wonder just where I would have put the SAT results, all those centuries ago?
I am a little worried about Ryan Rowland-Smith pitching the 9th. If he has a Sean Green moment, we have to burn another arm.
Why are we still debating SAT scores?
I got 1490
I didn’t.
But I took it 18 years ago, and in the 18 years since, what I made on the SAT has been completely irrelevant to my life.
agingfan, i prefer “the wave” in no. arizona/so. utah just outside the entrance to buckskin gulch.
well, lord knows he can’t have as much adreneline running through him tonight …
We’re watching a lengend here in this Rowland-Smith cahracter; the only placyer in Major League Baseball history with a dash in his name. Expect great things this inning!
I’m sorry I brought it up.
Dammit dw, someone was really supposed to chime in with a higher score so that my feeble attempt to shore up my self-worth would be ignored in favor of theirs.
Yeah, sorry, Lowell not Timlin.
IS Pedroia 12 years old.
#407– good thing he’s a big lad– his name wouldn’t fit on Pedroia’s jersey …
I looked older than Pedroia when I was a toddler.
Dave: since the M’s called Rowland-Smith up, does that automatically entitle him to a spot on the Future Forty? Since he was absent before, what would his reward grade be?
#405
Never been there but I looked up some pictures just now and it (they?) is damned impressive
It’s a great name. You expect him to jump out of a Spitfire in some jodhpurs, calling for a gin pahit and a round of croquet.
I could have used a garbage-time homer from Ortiz for my fantasy team, but that curve was beautiful. Nice job, hyphenated-name guy.
Kenji is a better athlete than we give him credit for.
Youkillis has a ridiculous batting stance.
YOukalis’s goatee is bigger than Pedroia
Gee, Lauren, I only got a 1400 (old system) on my SATs. I guess female baseball fans are smart.
There is a tradition of intellectual types liking baseball, see e.g. Roger Angell and George Will. I guess #395 belongs there too, given his flights of fancy about calculus and the Wave (a juxastaposition that would never have occurred to me). Back to the game; I guess Dave can keep blogging, secure that the world isn’t going to end. Weaver has looked decent lately, but this fits in with his career pattern (there is a reason the guy is still in the majors), so I wouldn’t get too excited.
both can be found from same trail head, but you gotta have the super secret gps coords to find the wave, or the hard to get map from the blm office.
I’d be worried Ortiz might get on the bus and sit on Pedroia without noticing.
That pitch was NICE.
Well, Lauren, I’m just saying that some of us did poorly enough on the SAT that we don’t like being reminded that people scored a lot higher.
Even if some of us made up for it by qualifying for Mensa.
M’s win!
Three strike outs. That curve is pretty damn good.
I love it when the Red Sox lose. I love it even more when the M’s make them do the losing!
That was a sick curve.
Rowland-Smith… is he 24 years old?
Damn, is she going to pop or what?
In honor of Rowland-Smith I think I will go chew on some Yardley soap
if Mariners.win = true {
document.write “THE MARINERS WIN! THEY ARE A TEAM OF DESTINY!”;
}
else {
document.write “The season is over. Trade Ichiro. Fire everyone. Why am I even a fan.”;
}
“Woo ooo Dream Weaver. I believe you can get through the naaaheight.”
It’s pretty much a perfect day in my mind when the M’s win and the Red Sox, Angels and A’s lose.
Angie is so hot.
In honor of Rowland-Smith I think I will go chew on some Yardley soap
I think Met Market and Whole Paycheck carry Vegemite.
Except Yardley Soap is more appetizing.
I’m drunk
Angie is huge. And you’re definitely drunk.
Stay away from the Vegemite, #436. Voice of experience….
434: Don’t forget the Yanks lost too…..This is too sweet.
“Top-hole. Bally Jerry, pranged his kite right in the how’s-your-father; hairy blighter, dicky-birded, feathered back on his sammy, took a waspy, flipped over on his Betty Harpers and caught his can in the Bertie.”
I heart msb.
I saw Angie out from behind the desk for the first time on friday, and she is either a) carrying very low, b) due tomorrow, or c) both.
Where did Rowland-Smith even come from? I don’t recall even seeing him come through the minors, it’s like he appeared from nowhere, then was on the roster. Did I miss something?
MSB: Somewhere Ronald Colman is wondering why he NEVER got dialogue that good.
“Rowland-Smith was originally signed as a non-drafted free agent on Nov. 19, 2000. The Mariners lost him briefly before the 2005 season as the Twins selected him in the Rule 5 Draft. But he was returned at the end of Spring Training that year.”
Cracking, msb. You really batted for six there. Carry on.
Thanks msb, I appreciate the info.
Authentic RAF banter courtesy of Python (personally, I suspect Jones & Palin) The same show featured a swell Neil Innes rendition of “When does a dream begin”, sung after the war has reached the sentimental stage…
—————
“Banter’s not the same if you say it slower, Squiffy.”
For the first time, M’s playoff odds > O’s playoff odds (according to coolstandings)
wtf? Like the Orioles ever stood a chance.
Some thoughts:
Weaver pitched at least as well as any sentient being should have expected.
Jesus, Jose, could you play some defence?
Angie M is beautiful.
Angie M looks as though she is about to give birth to a Humvee.
Lauren, you keep a Kalishnikov at home? I thought I left that sh*t behind in Belfast.
oops, I meant A’s, sorry…
M’s playoff odds > A’s playoff odds, on coolstandings. BP doesn’t agree.
Thanks for the clarification, Tak. I couldn’t imagine how anyone had even bothered to check the O’s odds.
Jeff Weaver, Cy Young candidate.
What a difference 3 days makes. I attended the 16-1 pimp-slapping the Ms suffered on Friday to one of the weakest teams in baseball, then attended last night and saw the Ms thump the best team in baseball with arguably their worst pitcher on the mound. Isn’t this a funny game? You just can’t make this stuff up.
Where are all the people that were calling for him to be DFAed just a few weeks ago?
I know, the “experts” on here will all explain that he hasn’t changed and his fastball is still weak and the sample size is small, yada yada yada.
But as hard as starting pitching is to find these days, and since we’re paying him $8 million whether he pitches for us or not, I’m glad he’s still around. Regardless, he’s probably gonna be a lock for the 5th spot for the rest of the year. And if pitches like he did last night, that’s a very good thing.
Big If, though.
The inverted commas seem a bit snide, dontcha think?
I know, the “experts” on here will all explain that he hasn’t changed and his fastball is still weak and the sample size is small, yada yada yada.
“Regression to the mean” says hi.
Which for Weaver is a good thing. He couldn’t possibly be THAT awful all season. Regressing to the mean implies that he could pitch out the rest of the season with an ERA around 4.40 instead of 15+
And as Dave wrote last week after the Pittsburg game Weaver is varying his pitches much more. When he was getting creamed he kept lobbing in 87mph 2 seamers without good sink – and the hitters feasted. If my memory is any use, he seemed to working well with a slider last night. He will suffice.
I’m one of those who were calling for Weaver to be DFA’ed not so long ago. I am still not convinced that he has turned the corner, as this is what he has given since his return from the DL (from my perspective);
1 great start (Pitt)
1 solid start (Bos)
1 bad but lucky start (ChiC)
1 start that can’t be graded (SD)
I am thrilled that we have won 3 of his past 4 starts. I am hopeful that he has turned the corner and will give us 6 innings and
Let me finish what I was saying…
I am hopeful that he has turned the corner and will give us 6 innings and less than 4 runs for the rest of the year. The best part of this would be that the team does not feel the need to break the bank trying to pick up another starter. But if he gets knocked around again, the questions will come back. But feel free criticize me, even though I am no “expert” by any stretch of the imagination.
Those two paragraphs are connected, you know.
I’m no expert either. I’m Just a baseball fan. I don’t spend time looking at sites that give actual percentage for a team to win DURING the game. And I don’t look at sites that peg the Ms playoff chances day by day. I’m too busy watching/listening to the games and reading this blog.
DOn’t get me wrong, I love this blog. I bought Derek’s book. I learn something all the time. I’m just a smart-ass
Don’t pay me any mind.
While I admitting my ignorance, where can I find a handy llist for the all the acronyms used freely here. I know what WHIP is, I know what OPS is, but beyond that I’m generall sitting here going… “???”
thanking you in advance.
if anyone wants to mail me offline my address is dhirning@comcast.net.
Go Ms,
D.