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	<title>Comments on: An Open Letter To Rafael Chaves</title>
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		<title>By: serpentear</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/06/27/an-open-letter-to-rafael-chaves/comment-page-2/#comment-205415</link>
		<dc:creator>serpentear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 23:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know Chavez actually read this and made Felix read it...you came through bro thats pretty awesome</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know Chavez actually read this and made Felix read it&#8230;you came through bro thats pretty awesome</p>
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		<title>By: carlls007</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/06/27/an-open-letter-to-rafael-chaves/comment-page-2/#comment-204713</link>
		<dc:creator>carlls007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 02:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, it&#039;s all paid off after Felix&#039;s shout out :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, it&#8217;s all paid off after Felix&#8217;s shout out <img src='http://ussmariner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/06/27/an-open-letter-to-rafael-chaves/comment-page-2/#comment-201596</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 08:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or, to put it in baseball speak.  

&quot;Mr. Chaves, please have your uber-phenom change speeds and keep the hitters off balance.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, to put it in baseball speak.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Mr. Chaves, please have your uber-phenom change speeds and keep the hitters off balance.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: scraps</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/06/27/an-open-letter-to-rafael-chaves/comment-page-2/#comment-201588</link>
		<dc:creator>scraps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
The no-hitters were fun to see, but that’s only seven games out of a thousand.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If you&#039;re not impressed by seven no-hitters, how about twelve one-hitters and eighteen two-hitters?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also:</p>
<blockquote><p>
The no-hitters were fun to see, but that’s only seven games out of a thousand.
</p></blockquote>
<p>If you&#8217;re not impressed by seven no-hitters, how about twelve one-hitters and eighteen two-hitters?</p>
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		<title>By: scraps</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/06/27/an-open-letter-to-rafael-chaves/comment-page-2/#comment-201587</link>
		<dc:creator>scraps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
he was a just-above-mediocre pitcher for most of his career
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nolan Ryan is one of those players that people love to underrate, because he&#039;s perceived as overrated.  He was a very good pitcher for a long time.  His career ERA+ is 112.  His walk rate was much lower in the second half of his career than in the first half.  Even in his most walktastic years, he was excellent: from 1972 to 1974, for example, his ERA was under 3 each year and he won 19, 21 and 22 games for a bad team.

At his best, he was as devastating as a pitcher could be, but even on an average day he was hard to beat.  He&#039;s not one of the half dozen best starting pitchers ever, but I don&#039;t see how he isn&#039;t one of the twenty best.  He was certainly much better than mediocre for &quot;most of his career&quot;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;
But that’s longevity, not quality
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You don&#039;t get the longevity without quality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
he was a just-above-mediocre pitcher for most of his career
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<p>Nolan Ryan is one of those players that people love to underrate, because he&#8217;s perceived as overrated.  He was a very good pitcher for a long time.  His career ERA+ is 112.  His walk rate was much lower in the second half of his career than in the first half.  Even in his most walktastic years, he was excellent: from 1972 to 1974, for example, his ERA was under 3 each year and he won 19, 21 and 22 games for a bad team.</p>
<p>At his best, he was as devastating as a pitcher could be, but even on an average day he was hard to beat.  He&#8217;s not one of the half dozen best starting pitchers ever, but I don&#8217;t see how he isn&#8217;t one of the twenty best.  He was certainly much better than mediocre for &#8220;most of his career&#8221;.</p>
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But that’s longevity, not quality
</p></blockquote>
<p>You don&#8217;t get the longevity without quality.</p>
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		<title>By: moocow</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/06/27/an-open-letter-to-rafael-chaves/comment-page-2/#comment-201585</link>
		<dc:creator>moocow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#84 - all true, thanks.  Sometimes it&#039;s easy to forget he&#039;s only 21.  Even some of the other recent notable young phenoms like Francisco Liriano are several years older than Felix.

I suppose if you had a pitcher with less talent having the same kind of command and pitch selection problems Felix is, you end up with...Jeff Weaver.

So another thing that&#039;s been bugging me since last year is how Felix seems to be giving up an inordinately high number of hits per batted ball in play.  As I understand, the average for BABIP is around .290 and a pitcher has little or no control over this--all he controls are strikeouts, GB/FB ratio, and walks.

So how come Felix is putting up GB/FB and K numbers other pitchers would kill to have, and a respectable BB rate, and yet he&#039;s still getting shelled (84 H in 68.2 IP!)?  By my calculations he&#039;s sporting a .393 BABIP this season, and .315 last year.  So what&#039;s the answer here?  Can Felix be the victim of simply bad luck?  Or is the premise that a pitcher can&#039;t control their BABIP not entirely true?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#84 &#8211; all true, thanks.  Sometimes it&#8217;s easy to forget he&#8217;s only 21.  Even some of the other recent notable young phenoms like Francisco Liriano are several years older than Felix.</p>
<p>I suppose if you had a pitcher with less talent having the same kind of command and pitch selection problems Felix is, you end up with&#8230;Jeff Weaver.</p>
<p>So another thing that&#8217;s been bugging me since last year is how Felix seems to be giving up an inordinately high number of hits per batted ball in play.  As I understand, the average for BABIP is around .290 and a pitcher has little or no control over this&#8211;all he controls are strikeouts, GB/FB ratio, and walks.</p>
<p>So how come Felix is putting up GB/FB and K numbers other pitchers would kill to have, and a respectable BB rate, and yet he&#8217;s still getting shelled (84 H in 68.2 IP!)?  By my calculations he&#8217;s sporting a .393 BABIP this season, and .315 last year.  So what&#8217;s the answer here?  Can Felix be the victim of simply bad luck?  Or is the premise that a pitcher can&#8217;t control their BABIP not entirely true?</p>
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		<title>By: metz123</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/06/27/an-open-letter-to-rafael-chaves/comment-page-2/#comment-201580</link>
		<dc:creator>metz123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Dave, how come when you go back and edit a comment (like you did with #41) it keeps the original comment time &amp; date? Is it a function of the blog software or do you intentionally do it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dave, how come when you go back and edit a comment (like you did with #41) it keeps the original comment time &amp; date? Is it a function of the blog software or do you intentionally do it?</p>
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		<title>By: metz123</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/06/27/an-open-letter-to-rafael-chaves/comment-page-2/#comment-201579</link>
		<dc:creator>metz123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) Velocity - The thinking is, you can get away with more mistakes when you have velocity

2) Age - He&#039;s incredibly young and we hope that with age comes maturity and pitching knowledge

3) Stuff - He throws 2 plus pitches (fastball and curve), has the potential for three (if he ever gets his slider back or gets a good feel for the change up or starts throwing the sinker more often)

4) Did I mention he&#039;s only 21 and deserves to be in the bigs at that age? Very few kids have the talent, presence &amp; command to be legit #2 starters at that age. 

And I&#039;d hardly call his fastball meaty. He gets a lot of swing &amp; misses on his fastball. It&#039;s a good fastball. It&#039;s got good movement and velocity. It&#039;s just not his best pitch and he shouldn&#039;t rely only on it in the early parts of the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) Velocity &#8211; The thinking is, you can get away with more mistakes when you have velocity</p>
<p>2) Age &#8211; He&#8217;s incredibly young and we hope that with age comes maturity and pitching knowledge</p>
<p>3) Stuff &#8211; He throws 2 plus pitches (fastball and curve), has the potential for three (if he ever gets his slider back or gets a good feel for the change up or starts throwing the sinker more often)</p>
<p>4) Did I mention he&#8217;s only 21 and deserves to be in the bigs at that age? Very few kids have the talent, presence &amp; command to be legit #2 starters at that age. </p>
<p>And I&#8217;d hardly call his fastball meaty. He gets a lot of swing &amp; misses on his fastball. It&#8217;s a good fastball. It&#8217;s got good movement and velocity. It&#8217;s just not his best pitch and he shouldn&#8217;t rely only on it in the early parts of the game.</p>
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		<title>By: moocow</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/06/27/an-open-letter-to-rafael-chaves/comment-page-2/#comment-201575</link>
		<dc:creator>moocow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 03:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes I wonder how Felix can be considered to have such great talent if he can&#039;t command his pitches and his fastball is so hittable.  Isn&#039;t commanding the fastball a kind of important thing for a good pitcher to be able to do?  Especially one so often compared to the greatest pitchers in the history of the game?

Aren&#039;t there plenty of crappy pitchers out there who throw meaty fastballs that they can&#039;t command?  What sets Felix apart from them?  A nice curveball and change?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes I wonder how Felix can be considered to have such great talent if he can&#8217;t command his pitches and his fastball is so hittable.  Isn&#8217;t commanding the fastball a kind of important thing for a good pitcher to be able to do?  Especially one so often compared to the greatest pitchers in the history of the game?</p>
<p>Aren&#8217;t there plenty of crappy pitchers out there who throw meaty fastballs that they can&#8217;t command?  What sets Felix apart from them?  A nice curveball and change?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Miller</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/06/27/an-open-letter-to-rafael-chaves/comment-page-2/#comment-201411</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 01:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having seen a bit of Ryan growing up, I always found him totally awesome &quot;to watch&quot;.  I wouldn&#039;t call him  &quot;just-above-mediocre&quot;, but maybe totally awesome isn&#039;t right, at least if Randy Johnson and Pedro Martinez or Greg Maddux are the bar for totally awesome.  I think Ryan was a good pitcher for a good part of his career and very good at different times, despite the walks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having seen a bit of Ryan growing up, I always found him totally awesome &#8220;to watch&#8221;.  I wouldn&#8217;t call him  &#8220;just-above-mediocre&#8221;, but maybe totally awesome isn&#8217;t right, at least if Randy Johnson and Pedro Martinez or Greg Maddux are the bar for totally awesome.  I think Ryan was a good pitcher for a good part of his career and very good at different times, despite the walks.</p>
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